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CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
Planning Commission Minutes
January 5, 2006
Regular Meeting - 6:30 p.m.
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INDEX
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Eaton, Hawkins, Cole, Toerge, Tucker, McDaniel and Henn - all
resent.
STAFF PRESENT:
Patricia L. Temple, Planning Director
Aaron C. Harp, Assistant City Attorney
Rich Edmonston, Transportation and Development Services Manager
James Campbell, Senior Planner
Ginger Varin, Planning Commission Executive Secretary
David Lepo, Hogle Ireland, consultant planner
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
PUBLIC
COMMENTS
None
None
POSTING OF THE AGENDA:
POSTING OF
THE AGENDA
The Planning Commission Agenda was posted on December 30, 2005.
CONSENT CALENDAR
ITEM NO. 1
SUBJECT: MINUTES of the regular meeting of November 29, 2005.
Minutes
Approved
SUBJECT: MINUTES of the regular meeting of December 8, 2005.
ITEM NO. 2
Minutes
Motion was made by Commissioner Hawkins to approve the Consent Calendar as
Approved
corrected.
Ayes:
Eaton, Hawkins, Cole, Toerge, Tucker, McDaniel and Henn
Noes:
None
Absent:
None
Abstain:
None
HEARING ITEMS
SUBJECT: Mariner's Mile Gateway (PA2004 -141)
ITEM NO. 5
100 -600 West Coast Highway
PA2004 -141
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st for approval of a Use Permit, Modification Permit and Development Plan, to Continue to
the development of a 56,000 square foot shopping center and two -level 01/05/2006
�anean parking garage. The site is approximately 2.57 acres and is current)
ed by 8 detached commercial structures that would be removed. The request
:s consideration of a Use Permit to allow buildings to exceed the base height limit
26 -feet up to a maximum height of 35 feet, a Modification Permit to allow
>mmercial building to encroach into the required 5 foot wide rear yard abutti
�sidential properties to the north, and a Modification Permit to allow a landsca
enter to be built less than the required width of 4 feet along Coast Highway. T
-oject also includes right -of -way dedication along Coast Highway for widening
oast Highway adjacent to the project site, installation of a traffic signal on Co,
ighway, grading, landscaping, site lighting and site walls.
Mitigated Negative Declaration has been prepared in connection with the applica
ited above. The Mitigated Negative Declaration states that, with chan
;orporated in the project or with mitigation measures indicated, the sub
velopment will not result in a significant effect on the environment. It is the pre:
ention of the City to accept the Mitigated Negative Declaration and suppor
cuments. This is not to be construed as either approval or denial by the City of
bject application.
Campbell noted that the concerns raised at the last meeting were addressed in
3ff report and that the various consultants are available for further information.
Beiswenger, Manager for the Mariners Mile Gateway, LLC, gave an overview of
ncept of the development, introduced his technical support team and noted
lowing responses to comments:
. Construction traffic issues - current generation of trips is approximately 900
day with approximately 45 truck trips per day. During the construction these
truck trips will be replaced with approximately 55 construction truck trips.
. Landscaping on top of bluff - slope has already been modified and graded.
. Height of the development - architectural features will fit in with the
areas.
. Design of the project - storefront retail development, with a drug store anchor, ai
is highly sought by many retailers throughout the country to have their business
this location.
. Quantity of grading export per day from the site and the quantity of demolition an(
improvement material from the site - the analysis in the Mitigated Negativ(
Declaration (MND) of the quantities used for grading and export, and demolition
and export materials was correct. In Phase I, 190,000 cubic feet of improvement:
on the property will be demolished and removed from the site over a two -montl
period with about 20 cubic yards of soil to be hauled as part of that demolition.
Under the grading, the total export from site for the entire operation is less that
90,000 cubic yards and that quantity has been analyzed throughout the MND. I
was presumed that 90,000 cubic feet would be removed from the site each day
however, we will be removing less than that per day. That 90,000 cubic fee
removal was analyzed throughout the documents but in order to stay under the ai
quality thresholds, we now estimate a total of 1350 vehicle miles per day o
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export, which equates to about 55 truck loads at 21,750 cubic feet of daily soil
removal. The analysis covers the magnitude of what we are going to be doing on
site and we do not intend to exceed what was analyzed.
• The signal will create the orderly flow of traffic on Coast Highway.
• The drug store, as an anchor, is key to have as the center function and
generate daily trips that will frequent the other retail shops.
• The widening of Coast Highway is of great significance.
Coralee Newman of Government Solutions, representing the applicant, gave
rview of the project using a Power Point presentation. She then noted the follom
. Site plan modifications - she referenced a handout depicting the
modifications; queuing, analyzed parking, minimum 4 feet setback along
stretch of Coast Highway, and additional loading and trash areas.
• Building heights.
• Clarification on the parking numbers.
• Excavation and hauling.
• Emergency vehicles response on Coast Highway.
• Design of the retaining wall materials. A handout with 1953 and 1947
photographs of the site side by side on one sheet.
• Discussion and conclusion of the slope modification and General Plan policy.
Beiswenger added:
. Site plan modifications - referencing the exhibit noted that the parking has I
angled and made one direction in order to address any queuing problem.
explained the directions.
. The ramp to the underground parking has been located further west to create
better traffic flow.
. Created a trash enclosure area that will hold ten 9 -yard bins and have
designated grade level loading area for the shops on the eastern side of t
project.
. A minimum of four feet of landscaping has been provided that includes the
overhang parking spaces on the Coast Highway side.
. Another trash enclosure area has been provided at the far northwest corner of
mid level garage parking as well as a trash enclosure area by the freight elev,
along with additional loading spaces for van type loading only.
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GMs. Newman continued.
The drug store tower is 34 feet high and is included so as not to design a
along Coast Highway.
. Referencing the presentation, she noted the numerous heights of
along Coast Highway.
The comer of the project height meets the open space finding which states
the increased building height would result in more public visual open space
views than required by the basic height limit of the zone. There will be an c
pedestrian courtyard on the corner of Dover and Coast Highway.
sioner Tucker asked what the base building height before the
for the drug store is
Beiswenger answered that the mansard roof around the drag store is at about
in height. The architectural feature goes up about 3 more feet to 31 feet. A sing
:r goes up to 34 1/2 feet with the square footage of 200 feet approximate and
e for articulation purposes only.
mmissioner Tucker affirmed the base building, if this project was approved, would be
feet. It would be this design and not 34 1/2 feet everywhere, just at this location?
Beiswenger agreed.
Toerge asked why 28 feet, is there a cubic footage requirement?
Beiswenger noted it is a nice feature to have a drug store with such a high ceiling.
height is driven because if we were to shorten the building we believe the
metry of the entire project would be thrown off. Referencing the Power Point
bit of project heights, noted to shorten this tower by 8 or 9 feet, you would end up
a building that would throw off the look of the project and the height would be the
ie as the other buildings in the proposed project.
iairperson Toerge noted the remainder of the project is set back substantially fro
)ast Highway, this building is only 4 feet from the highway. The question is not or
height, it is its proximity to Coast Highway and the adjacent development and not
balance of the project. If there is not a physical need internally for the height and
es demand a variance for height, I am concerned of a box like appearance so clo:
the highway and close to adjacent development that is not consistent.
sioner Tucker asked if the base building could be 26 feet with the
still there? Is there a mechanical mezzanine there?
Kroft of KTGY Group Architects, representing the applicant, noted:
Part of the reason for the height is that the retaining wall behind the drug store
the highest. So part of the reason is to screen that retaining wall from view.
For a drug store, we need to keep about a 16 foot clear ceiling height to screen
mechanical equipment.
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Reducing the height from 28 to 26 feet allowing the same height above for
tower to extend we could still make that work. Two feet will not affect
proportion, but more than that starts impacting the functioning of the drug s
interior. The tower height would then be at 32 1/2.
At Commission inquiry, he noted the east -end arches are below street elevatic
so it appears you are seeing a greater mass at that location; however, the e;
side of the site is actually higher. The finished grade there is about 3 feet abc
what the pad elevation would be for the drug store. The drawing is accurate
relation to the grade and based on the finished floor elevations.
The drug store proximity to Coast Highway after it is widened will vary betw
about 5 - 7 feet. The West Marine building would have a similar setback if
highway was widened as the land has been dedicated.
. Newman continued noting the parking calculations for the drug store is 52 b
4 per 1,000; and the rest of the retail and office is 268 based on 5 per 1,000.
re provided 287 stalls altogether.
Campbell noted an error in the staff report citing that the required parking is 2
:es, which was based upon land uses and the individual parking ratio per Code.
irate parking requirement for shopping centers actually requires more parking a
)arking by individual uses method was incorrect. When you use the individual L
ing ratios and add office parking you arrive at 235 parking spaces. The prof
ides more than what is required by Code using either method. The 268 requii
;es using the shopping center standard allows for a restaurant use up to 15% of 1
project based on gross floor area.
Newman continued by noting:
Additional conditions provided that limit the number of vehicle miles traveled to ai
air quality threshold, truck trips limits to an air quality threshold, restrict trips tc
non -peak hours and provide a Construction Management Plan prior to grading.
The signal at Coast Highway was commented on by the Fire Marshall Stew
Bunting who offers that this signal may relieve the bottle neck encountered fo
emergency vehicles.
Retaining wall materials will match the native rock formation at Dover and
Highway. She provided photographs of that type of planned treatment
Beiswenger added:
. The surfacing of the retaining wall will be similar to "shale" look of
formations
. Distributed a handout of aerials of 1953 and 1947.
The main modification of the slope natural landform will be in the location of
drug store.
Cole asked for clarification on the slope modification.
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Marshall Lew, Senior Principal of Mactec Engineering and Consulting, Inc. representing
he applicant noted the following:
. Referencing the topographical exhibit in the presentation, noted the area of tl
drug store where the contours are regular and not typical of the contours above.
. Below and within the confines of the property, the lower part of the slope
been modified and has been filled in.
. The bottom of the slope is very straight and has been filled in.
. The slope is covered by non - native vegetation that doesn't grow in the bedrock.
Cole noting the 1947 photograph, asked what was there.
Lew answered it would have had gullies and little ravines from the water we
n as depicted on the exhibit. The water washing down created gullies that
filled with materials and that fill material caused new growth, not native gi
;h is there today.
mmissioner Hawkins asked if any testing of the soils or geotechnical
the slope were done?
Lew answered engineering geologists have examined the slope and the material
soil that has been added. The material on top was used to create level pads ai
)ably dumped over the side and graded to give a nice regular surface. It does r
to be natural and even if there was colluviums it would not fill in as a nice ev
Newman continued by noting that the Mariners Mile Vision process has identi
this area needs revitalization. The proposed project meets the criteria
mplishes the goals of the Visioning Plan that was adopted for this area.
erty owner is consolidating lots into one lot, encourages parking consolidat
ade landscaping and fences; unified streetscapes; sign standards; enhan
estrian access to business and reduce the number of curb cuts. She asked
oval of this proposal.
imissioner McDaniel asked about the water tables and the use of "french"
noted his concern of the noise to be generated.
Beiswenger noted during construction the site would be dewatered to bring
:r level below the lowest point which when filtered will then enter the storm dr
flow into the Back Bay. There will be a lot of water that will cross under Dover
north side of the highway and flow to the Back Bay. At Commission inquiry,
ad that the determination to do one or two levels of subterranean parking should
Q_ during the engineering phase of the project and following additional geotechni
imissioner Eaton asked why incur the additional parking construction? What wi
timing be for the truck export? What about the possibility of a condition of
king during the peak summer time hours? If the trucks go to the closed TL
ine base the most convenient route would require flagmen on Coast Highway
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(would be more problematic than is there now. What is your phasing?
Beiswenger noted that the parking availability is a selling point to the retailers t
being marketed, especially restaurant type tenants. The retailers believe t
eelopment will be successful and that will be due partly to the amount of availa
king. The soils, if delivered to a place in Irvine, would result in less trips and there
Oen the timing. That condition would be problematic, as it looks like we will
ding during the summer months. However, the 50 -60 truck trips as compared
ay's truck trips, we believe there will not be a significant impact during
nmertime hours in non -peak hours of exporting 50 -60 trucks per day. We would
istant to a condition prohibiting trucking during the peak summer time hours. I
Ad have flagmen that would control the trucks ingress and egress from a saf
ndpoint, but again the amount of trucks per hour may be one per every 8
lutes. We would do the very best we can to mitigate any traffic problems. We
starting the project around the first of April or after.
Edmonston added that neither CalTrans nor the City would approve the use o
nen, particularly during the summer months. Typically even City operations are
icted by CalTrans during the summer as they are very protective of the highway.
turns out of the project without normal positive type control would not be practical.
nmissioner Eaton then brought up the loading corridor; use of the freight elevator
restaurant use; egress patterns; and the placement and maintenance of landsca
erials used on the retaining wall.
Beiswenger, referring to an exhibit, displayed and discussed the routes that we
taken for egress with the possible use of arm gates and a stop light to rotate the
)ending on peak demand. The freight elevator will be able to handle the caps
i discussed comparisons to other shopping centers. The retaining wall will
rered with vines and vegetation to blend in with the hillside.
Foley, Landscape contractor, noted:
. Plant materials will cascade down the wall from the top.
. Plant material will be clinging vine self - fixing at the bottom and will grow up.
. Interim wall plantings will be a mixture of the above so both directions will
covered.
. Irrigation and drainage will be run at the top and will punch out from behind
wall and will be tied into the storm systems and will not be visible.
. The protrusions through the wall will be water proofed.
rperson Toerge asked for a presentation from Mr. Lepo on the numbers used
ng materials /dirt and truck load capacities.
id Lepo, planning consultant for the City, clarified that during the demolition pha
e will be a removal of 190,000 cubic feet of improvements from the site
esented in the data sheet shown in the air quality model 1. He went on to clar
numbers analyzed resulting in the model runs are more conservative that what
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ad now from the applicant. We can change the word "dirt" to "improvemen
it ". He then clarified the number of vehicle daily trips mileage; capacity loads; ai
threshold limits and duration.
ssioner Tucker asked if there was a response to an email from Mr. Krotee date(
ber 18th?
Lepo answered that there was no response as it was received on the 12th
amber and an individual response is being prepared; however, the issues raised
email and one from December are covered in other responses to comments.
>ioner Tucker affirmed his belief that the issues raised in the emails
in other responses to comments. He added that it is fair to cut off any 1
is to comments received due to the timing issue.
imissioner Hawkins noted his concern that the responses are not adequate
onse to CalTrans comments Item C as an encroachment permit will be needed
is not mentioned.
Lepo answered that was responded on the assumption of the understanding t
water would be pumped directly into the storm drain inlet that would be brought
the site rather than out to the public right of way. We can certainly condition it t
Hawkins noted several concerns of the responses to CalTrans.
ny Petros, LSA Associates, principal of the project transportation group, noted tI
i 25 year requirement is a CalTrans requirement specifically for CalTrans cap!
)jects where in order to build their bridges, highways, ramps, interchanges, th
luire for their projects to do a 25 year horizon. They put out a manual for th
)jects to use the ITE trip manual. What is before you is a land development prof(
it you are evaluating under the guidelines of the City. That study has been do
propriately and accordingly. I agree with the responses to that. The question of t
fening, street striping, the median, of access and traffic control will all have to go
ilTrans for the encroachment permit and what we call the project developm(
)cess. At that time CalTrans will ask for many studies that will satisfy their of
luirements. For purposes of the land development application, you have
equate traffic analysis according to the requirements set by the City to evalu:
)jects. Those are the responses we have provided numerous times to Mr. Josepl
ter in our project dealings.
immissioner Hawkins stated that the responses should state that the Traffic Stu
mplies with City requirements. Mr. Petros agreed.
blic comment was opened.
Billings, resident, noted his opposition to the project stating:
. Another drug store is not needed.
. The project needs an EIR to address environmental issues.
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. The MND is an internal document that states environmental impacts can
mitigated but even you are asking questions that can only be answered with
EIR.
• This will be a traffic nightmare and a traffic signal will be problematic.
• Quality of life will be diminished with this project.
• He noted this item should go to Council and go to the people for a vote.
Vandersloot, resident, noted:
. This bluff is a natural landform and as shown by the photographs has
there from the time of Newport Beach.
. The bluff as excavated is a maximum of 55 feet in height at the westerly
line and is 80 feet long from the toe of the slope inward.
. There is no data to document that amount of landform is from homeowners at
top pushing that amount of dirt over the side of the slope to create a block of 1
80 by 55 feet high. That landform is a natural landform.
. Policy D should apply and you should not allow significant alteration of
landform.
. That amount of bluff could not be put there by man, therefore, it is a
landform that should be protected.
. You could alter the project to require that end not be transformed and
buildings need to be rearranged on site.
it Drachman, resident, noted his concern of the project noting that this area needs
re- vitalized. Traffic on Coast Highway is bad and this project will impact the qual
life and is unfair and unreasonable. He asked for best judgment to be used.
hn Vaughn, resident, noted he is for the revitalization of Mariners Mile but this p
too much in such a small space. With an anchor of a drug store are you really
use subterranean parking when there are seven drug stores within a two
dius? There is too much of an impact on the community and our way of life.
Palanjian, resident directly above the proposed project noted his support of
.t; too many accidents on Coast Highway now; the City staff knows what they
and something has to go in there.
comment was closed.
mmissioner Tucker stated that the Planning Commission is limited to what we c
by what the Code provides. We did not write the Code and it is the City Counci
icy and it is our job to implement policy that the elected officials have had. In ti
;e, like it or not, this property can be developed with 56,000 square feet. We can r
ore what is allowed under the Code. The question of what can go on the prope
I people's perception of the quality of life, traffic issue - were explored extensively
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e last meeting. I am convinced that the lengthening and the additional lane on Coas
ghway for a few hundred feet actually make the traffic situation much better than it i;
day. We are required to consider substantial evidence under CEQA, and that is
fidence that is creditable and backed by expert opinion. CEQA guidelines tell us tc
sregard unsubstantiated opinion, arguments and speculation. We look at what the
affic experts have brought to us and then we have people that seem to think that jus
,cause there is a new traffic signal, that is a bad thing. Maybe it is, but it is no
imething we are going to accept somebody's opinion when we have the professiona
)inions that the combination of the lengthening of the three lanes on Coast Highway tc
e west of Dover with the synchronization of the traffic signals is going to end up with E
,tter situation, even with the project. It may be counter - intuitive to some people, but
ink that is probably the case. The issue of the traffic signal itself, is not our decision.
alTrans can put in a signal anywhere it wants on, any of its streets and there is nothinc
at the City can do about it other than to plan the project to work well once it gets intc
ir jurisdiction, which is the private property contiguous to where the signal will go. A
e last meeting we had, the Commission did not like the way the project circulated anc
didn't think it would work very well at all. The applicant has changed the circulation
i that we have ended up with something that will work if the signal gets installed.
aquiring that a matter go to City Council, we don't have that authority, that will be uK
the Council if they want to hear it. It doesn't as a matter of right go the City Counci
;cause it is not a General Plan amendment or a zone change. These folks arE
)mplying with what our Code says. If you think our Code allows projects that are no
arthy, then change the Code. It is appealable to the City Council by both the Counci
id the public. As far as the land form issue is concerned, I am convinced there ha:
,en alteration to the bluff. Question is at some point in time after you dig through the
teration, the bluff is there. How far back that is, is not entirely clear. The issue wE
,ve also involves whether siting of new buildings and structures shall be controllec
id regulated to ensure to the extent practical. What is the meaning of exten
actical? It doesn't say to the maximum extent, and doesn't give guidance as to wha
the extent practical is. We've had projects for years that took out coastal bluff an(
id houses cascading down the bluffs. The general thought process at that time wa;
ere was no implementing regulations for this policy and we never did anything abou
The coastal zone issue is different and this property is not in the coastal zone. It i;
>t that set of standards that apply. We have the Mariner's Mile guidelines that werE
lopted and speaks in terms of the area needing revitalization, so this is a judgmen
dl and it is not clear what policies and procedures we are supposed to follow and wha
means. To the extent practical to me calls into question the whole issue. The las
ing is the issue of an Environmental Impact Report. That is a document that is
epared if a fair argument is made that a project can not mitigate the impacts to a leve
insignificance. Once again, that is dependent upon substantial evidence presentee
id that is not the case here. It is not our place who would win that fair argument if i
ided up in litigation, it is whether a fair argument has been made. I have not seer
iy substantial evidence that leads me to believe that a fair argument has been made
,t to this point. I have heard speculation and opinion but I am not convinced that a fail
gument has been made that the project can not mitigate itself to a level o
mmissioner Hawkins noted the General Plan and implementation provic
truction especially since there seems to be a question regarding the land form.
ad from Policy D and the implementation under that Policy, where there is so
estion as to the applicability of this section to a specific land form a determination
whether or not a specific land form constitutes a coastal bluff shall be made by
inning Commission consistent with the purposes of this regulation. Commissioi
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it has noted that somewhere back there is a natural form. More importantly
ig at the bluff, McDonald's has excavated into the bluff, the residents above have
Fated into it and there are residences cascading down the bluff. The bluff ha:
extensively excavated. Referring to the Land Use Element, the only discussior
Jing bluffs is properties abutting bluff faces require that development projects are
.d and design buildings are to maintain the visual quality and retain the structura
ity of the bluff faces. That is what we have here, I am not saying the proposec
Use Element applies, but it can provide guidance in our discussions.
mmissioner McDaniel noted that many people have discussed that something nee
be done there as it has been in neglect for quite a while. Redevelopment the
uld be very positive. We don't get to choose what is built there. Whatever
)miffed to us is what we look at and try to be fair and impartial and to make it i
>t possible for the City. The system we have works well. This is our stewards]
i we take it very seriously.
ssioner Henn noted it is not our charge to be judging the eventual comme
s of the project. We are here to consider these questions in relation to
regulations that we are charged to make decisions using it.
iairperson Toerge noted that one of the issues is whether or not we consider the bl
be a natural landform or whether or not that the proposed development alters t
iff to the extent practical. We need to straw vote this issue and as we do we need
ep in mind that we are being asked to approve a modification that will exacerbate t
ading because the applicant is asking to waive the rear yard setback. In order
give that setback we have to make certain findings, one of which is that the granti
the application will not adversely affect the health and safety of persons residing
irking in the neighborhood of the property and will not be detrimental to the gene
;Ifare nor injurious to property and improvements in the neighborhood. I can see w
without a modification this project has that potential when you are going to excaw
-80 feet back into the slope and to a depth of 55 to 60 feet. He noted his agreem(
it at some point as one excavates into the slope, one will encounter a natu
idform; however, the surface formation does appear to be modified and we must al
nsider the practical development provision. He is concerned about grading into t
)pe and by waiving the rear yard setbacks we may be exacerbating a problem to t
>idents above. He noted that conditions of approval would be incorporated to ma
s finding that it does not.create an unsafe condition that could occur from t
nstruction practice and/or through a partial completion. What if construction was r
mpleted for whatever reason and there is a retaining wall partially built rendering
safe condition? He asked for some type of guarantee or surety bond that t
veloper put before the City to guarantee the completion of the retaining wall, on
cavation commences, and also to assure that any potential damage to adjace
blic or private property would be offset by some form of liability coverage.
vote of this issue:
natural slope /landform - Commissioners Henn, McDaniel, Tucker, Eaton
;sioner Hawkins questioned if we have to make a finding that this is or is not
bluff. (re -read the implementation section of Policy D of the Land Use Element)
Harp noted the determination hinges on whether it is a natural landform or not.
i in this section, coastal bluff is any natural landform having an average slope
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i degrees or greater with a vertical rise of 25 feet or greater. To be a coastal bluff,
to be a natural land form.
Hawkins asked do we need to make that finding or not?
Harp answered the consensus what if it is not a natural landform, you don't need
:e that finding.
nmissioner Cole noted that he does not believe it is a natural landform. He stc
concern of allowing 80 feet of excavation with a retaining wall of 30+ feet high.
ad if the Commission has the right if we wanted to modify or reduce the size of
g store that would result in a compromise?
Harp answered yes. He asked the applicant if they would have a problem acc
formance or assurance bonds, things of that nature to ensure completion of th
well as any damage created thereby? This would address any safety issues
ject is abandoned and the wall is incomplete.
Beiswenger answered he would not have a problem providing the availability of
d. We have the capacity financially to and will provide a completion bond.
airperson Toerge then noted under the general topic of grading and export and to
ffic there has been clarity brought as to the amount of excavation, amount of exp(
molition material and debris, etc. The explanation of truck trips and daily lirr
)osed by the AQMD is clear. We need to determine the hours of operation a
ether it can be done during peak hours. He agrees that there should be some w
require trucks to exit onto Dover and then a left on Coast Highway. The issue
istruction worker parking needs to be addressed during grading. There needs to
ne parking requirement.
sioner Eaton noted his concern of encouraging trucks onto Dover.
ad staff be allowed to manage the construction management plan providing
t has agreed to limit the export hours between the peak periods and during
(mid June to the end of August)
imissioner Hawkins noted his concern of the Dover route also. Staff can
appropriately and perhaps we have a condition that the construction tri
oved by Mr. Edmonston's group.
nissioner Tucker noted he agrees that staff should oversee these issues but I
not agree with the limitation during the summer time. It is impractical as it puts
:orium on the project. Construction problems happen and there a
veniences. That is the price that you pay for having nicer things than what yc
d with. Peak hours are problematic and we have addressed that already with ti
ioner Henn noted it is impractical to say no use of trucks during the sum
Maybe we can shorten the hours of operation to assure we are beyond
period of peak traffic. Traffic management should be managed by the Tr
mt. He noted his disapproval of the use of flag men to stop traffic in
and encouraged staff to find a solution that would not require it.
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Commissioner McDaniel noted the traffic people need to deal with it in their dealings
ith CalTrans. I
Cole stated he would defer to the Traffic Manager.
Edmonston asked if summer hauling on weekends would be acceptable.
emission indicated that during the summer, weekend truck traffic was
rsioner Hawkins asked if hours of operation had been limited or restricted
projects by staff?
Edmonston answered yes.
irperson Toerge affirmed the applicant has agreed to do coring of the pylons behin
retaining wall. The adequacy of parking, parking configuration and maneuvering
imissioner Tucker noted he is satisfied with the changes and modificatior
>osed by the applicant.
Campbell noted there are a few changes to the garage that need to be adjust
resolved and will be done at the plan check stage. We always reserve the ril
ugh conditions to further modify and adjust them so we can avoid any vehicle
euvering conflicts.
, Chairman Toerge noted:
. Once that 15% restaurant allocation is used up, it is going to be very difficult
expand a restaurant use beyond that unless that extra parking is built in t
basement.
The site plan for the next meeting will show the 4 foot front setback.
loner Eaton noted the modification is not required for the front setb
the applicant has agreed to a 4 foot setback. The unifying landscaping
Mile is not listed in the landscape plan.
Campbell noted compliance with landscape standards is an important aspect and
led out for the Mariner's Mile Design framework and is required by Code and the
been no request to deviate from that. We will add a condition to requi
loner Eaton continued asking for the landscape plan to come back to
Commission for approval.
tirperson Toerge noted he is in favor of that and noted some of the characteristics
Design Framework requirements.
. Temple noted that this can be forwarded directly to the Commission when st;
s the application for the sign modification. The landscaping plan does not requi
>roval by the Planning Commission or staff, at the time we got that plan we can a.
extra copies and we can have a discussion.
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Continuing, Chairman Toerge noted:
Deliveries of UPS and FEDEX to the most easterly shops - where will d
trucks park to service the most easterly shops on a daily basis?
Beiswenger answered that they can park either at the grade level at the far wo
of the shops adjacent to the trash enclosure, or, they will park in the subterrane
I at the northeast comer of the garage. The delivery trips that go to t
.erranean level will have to be van type trucks, not box trucks. Referencing I
bit, he noted the locations. This project will be heavily managed on a daily basis.
bert Kroft of KTTY, added that the clear height on the first level of parking is 9 foot
-hes which meets ADA requirements for van type loading. That height going dov
e other levels will be lower. If there is duct work along the perimeter of the projec
at will encroach into the 9 foot 6 inches where the cars are.
uing, Chairman Toerge noted:
. Height of the drug store - there is an effort to reduce the overall height by
feet.
. Maintain the 4 foot setback.
. Reviewed the trash enclosure and the newly expanded trash enclosure area.
. Discussed the landscape.
. Sign Program will be reviewed by the Planning Commission.
. There will be a condition that the employees of the Center will be required to
in the least desirable location of the subterranean garage rendering the
desirable available for customers.
. Signal issue - can we impose a condition that requires the signal be synchroni;
with PCH and Dover? This is an important component to the argument that
signal won't contribute to increased traffic when you consider the widening of
highway to three lanes and the extension of the transition lane. It should also
operable with the OPTICOM System.
Edmonston answered that CalTrans by a matter of practice, coordinates all
als along the State Highways and certainly would not approve this signal if ti
a not convinced it could work into the coordination. As a practical matter, it will
loner Eaton noted that this is a critical component of the project and
Commission needs to satisfy the concerns and issues raised by the public.
imissioner Henn noted that the pedestrian crossings raise havoc with
:hronization of traffic. I am in favor of a light there, but people should not be
it will have a substantial affect on traffic flow because of the crossings.
Commission inquiry, Mr. Edmonston noted that a plan check can be requested to
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Ipart of the analysis that the Traffic consultant did with a computerized model to
l
valuate how a signal would work and what the parameters would need to be in ord
o erly
make it work. We can check that and work with CalTrans to promote that being
Tucker noted we could word that condition to work with the City to
done.
rperson Toerge stated staff should work out the wording for this condition.
Edmonston noted you could make it a condition that the applicant have a
ichronization study prepared by a licensed traffic engineer that would be sul
both the City and CalTrans. The Commission agreed.
uing, Chairman Toerge noted:
. Raised medians - potential for impeding emergency vehicles. The des
framework for Mariners Mile encourages the landscaping as well. Could they
designed and developed with rolled curbs?
Bunting, City Fire Marshall stated that there are raised medians at virtually ever
intersection of the City and are not a problem. There is no need for rolled curbs.
uing, Chairman Toerge noted:
. Consideration of widening Coast Highway beyond the applicant's property, not
the applicant's expense to the Pelican wall. Staff responded should the Plannir
Commission feel that is appropriate action to take, on a separate agenda item p
that forth to the City Council for their consideration. As it relates to this project,
is not appropriate to introduce it in the conditions.
Eaton asked for this item to be brought back for discussion.
vote on this project being meritorious given the conditions that have
- Commissioners Eaton, Hawkins, Cole, Toerge, Tucker, McDaniel and Henn.
Commission thanked the applicant and their representatives as well as staff for
'ough presentation and question and answers on this project. They noted the
port of the project as being a bold plan and one that will be of great importance
City.
was made by Chairperson Toerge to continue public hearing to January 1
Eaton, Hawkins, Cole,
None
Henn
None
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ADDITIONAL
BUSINESS
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City Council Follow -up - Ms. Temple reported that the City Council is considerini
Codes related to nuisances and property development maintenance stand
being strengthened; extensions of the Marine Avenue Business Improvei
District and the Restaurant Association Improvements were considered; Bay
Drive Planned Community and Santa Barbara Condominium projects
continued to January 10, 2006; the Council adopted the Coastal Land Use Plan
the Coastal Commission certified; and 17 offers to dedicate for coastal access 1
accepted by the Council.
Report from Planning Commission's representative to the Economic De.
Committee - Commissioner Henn stated EDC will be working through the
strategic plan during the next month.
Report from Planning Commission's representatives to the General Plan
Committee - Commissioner Eaton noted there has been no meeting.
Report from Planning Commission's representative to the Local Coastal
Certification Committee - Chairperson Toerge noted the Council adopted the
Use Plan and there have been no other meetings.
Report from Planning Commission's representative to the Zoning Committee
Commissioner Eaton noted no meetings as yet. He asked about and receive
information on the professional services agreement with Hogle Ireland for evaluati(
of development review and plan check process.
Matters which a Planning Commissioner would like staff to report on at
subsequent meeting - Commissioner Eaton asked that an item to allow 1
Commission to consider to the City Council widening of Coast Highway towards 1
Pelican wall. Chairperson Toerge asked about a home on Balboa Island that h
an issue of 200 square foot elevator shaft. Ms. Temple noted that the prope
owner continues to litigate the City and is still a work in progress. Mr. Harp noted
would give an overview.
Matters which a Planning Commissioner may wish to place on a future agenda
action and staff report - none.
Project status - Ms. Temple updated the Commission regarding the issue of th
vent pipes at the Chevron station at the comer of Coast Highway and Bayside Dri%
both staff and the owners are working together on this but it has become clear that
is prohibitively expensive to change the location due to grade and angle issues ar
would mean the removal of almost 100% of the site improvements. Staff and the
architect are trying to come up with visual options.
Ii) Requests for excused absences - none.
ADJOURNMENT: 9:50 a.m. IADJOU RNMENT
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH PLANNING
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