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REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
PLACE: City Council Chambers
TIME: 7:30 P.M.
DATE: J In 1994
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Chairman Merrill was excused. (Commissioner Pomeroy arrived
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EX- OFFICIO OFFICERS PRESENT:
James Hewicker, Planning Director
Robin Flory, Assistant City Attorney
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William R. Laycock, Current Planning Manager
ohn Douglas, Principal Planner
Don Webb, City Engineer
Dee Edwards, Secretary
Minutes of Janua1y 6 1994
Minutes
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Motion
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Motion was made and voted on to approve the January 6, 1994,
Planning Commission Minutes. MOTION CARRIED.
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Public Comments:
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No one appeared before the Planning Commission to speak on
on- agenda items.
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ostin of the Amanda:
Posting
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James Hewicker, Planning Director, stated that the Planning
Agenda
omn'ission Agenda was posted on Friday, January 14, 1994, in
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esub 'vi i n No. 1002 (Public Heariing)
Item No.
equest to resubdivide five lots, a portion of a sixth lot and
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ortions of a vacated alley and a vacated street into three parcels
f land for residential purposes, on property located in the R -1
Approved
District.
CATION: Lots 55, 56, 57, 69, 70 and a portion of Lot
68, Block A, Tract No. 673, a portion of a
vacated street and a portion of a vacated
alley, located at 344 -352 Hazel Drive, on the
southeasterly side of Hazel Drive,
southeasterly of East Coast Highway, in
Corona del Mar.
ONE: R -1
PLICANT: Snell & Wilmer, Irvine
WNER: Katherine S. Finch Family Trust, Long Beach
GINEER: Duca -Mc Coy, Inc., Corona del Mar
lames Hewicker, Planning Director, referred to a letter received
om Stanley Behrens, dated January 19, 1994, addressed to the
mmission concerning the subject application. The. letter
'scusses the contours that are shown on the parcel map which
ere taken from a reference point on a curve on East Coast
-lighway as opposed to the contours above. Mean Sea Level (MSL)
hich are shown on a map Mr. Behrens submitted to staff. Mr.
ehrens is a prospective purchaser of Parcel No. 3.
William Laycock, Current Planning Manager, explained that the
etter addresses the bench mark that was utilized by Duca McCoy
hen the tentative parcel map was drawn, and Duca McCoy used
he bench mark of 100 feet which is the point that was used on
ast Coast Highway. Mr. Laycock recommended that Condition
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o. 8 be modified to state ..that no construction or
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andform alteration below the 85 foot contour line (71.16
SL) shall be permitted—The 71.16 MSL is the same 85 foot
ontour that is shown on the tentative parcel map. Mr. Hewicker
lained that it would be preferable to use the contour above
SL as opposed to using a reference point on East Coast Highway
here there may be individuals who do not know where the
eference point is located. Mr. Laycock explained that tentative
arcel maps should be drawn from the MSL line and in the subject
ase the engineer used the 100 foot mark.
The public hearing was opened in connection with this item, and
r. Charles Hurst, attorney for the applicant, appeared before the
Tanning Commission. He concurred with the findings and
onditions in Exhibit "A", as modified.
response to a question posed by Commissioner Edwards, Mr.
urst indicated that he had not read Behrens' letter, however, he
as familiar with his concerns. Mr. Hurst did not object to staffs
uggestion if it would clarify the MSL benchmark and it would
escribe the same contour.
Stanley Behrens, 567 San Nicolas Drive, Suite 304, appeared
efore the Planning Commission, and he distributed documents
ertaining to the application to the Commission. He suggested that
e Duca McCoy tentative parcel map be modified with a 0 to 110
oot correct contour line using an official Orange County bench
nark at 86.895 feet, the elevation above MSL, as stated by the
nvironmental Managing Committee, and to redraw the remaining
all contour line at the 90 foot line on Parcel 3. The Tentative
arcel Map should be changed from below the 85 foot contour
e to the 69 foot contour line. The structure on the adjoining
roperty located at 336 Hazel Drive was built 69 feet above sea
evel, and that should be the maximum contour line that should be
onstructed on the subject property. The Duca McCoy tentative
arcel map should clarify the boundaries of the property for the
alifornia Department of Fish and Game.
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In response to a question posed by Acting Chairman Glover, Mr.
Behrens replied that there is not sufficient documentation in the
staff report concerning the boundaries of the property, the contour
lines, or the retaining wall.
Don Webb, City Engineer, explained that many of the concerns
that Mr. Behrens has will be addressed on the Final Parcel Map.
Final Parcel Maps normally do not indicate contours, and
Tentative Parcel Maps are not required to show contours and
improvements that are on the site. Staff will require that a
complete survey be performed, and the concerns regarding the
bench mark will be taken into consideration during design and
plan check.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Ridgeway, Mr.
Behrens agreed with the findings and conditions in Exhibit "A ", as
modified. Commissioner Ridgeway pointed out that Mr. Behrens
aforementioned concerns would be addressed during plan check.
In reference to Condition No. 5, Exhibit "A", Mr. Behrens asked
who would be responsible for the cost of reconstructing the
cracked or displaced sections of sidewalk. Mr. Webb explained
that the developer would pay for the reconstruction.
There being no others desiring to appear and be heard, the public
Baring was closed at this time,
Motion
Motion was made and voted on to approve Resubdivision No.
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1002 subject to the findings and conditions in Exhibit "A", as
Absent
modified. MOTION CARRIED.
FINDINGS:
1. That the design of the subdivision will not conflict with any
easements acquired by the public at large for access
through or use of the property within the proposed
subdivision.
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2. That the map meets the requirements of Title 19 of the
Newport Beach Municipal Code, all ordinances of the City,
all applicable general or specific plans and the Planning
Commission is satisfied with the plan of subdivision.
3. That the proposed resubdivision presents no problems from
a planning standpoint.
That public improvements may be required of a developer
per Section 19.08.020 of the Municipal Code and Section
66415 of the Subdivision Map Act.
1. That a parcel map be recorded prior to issuance of
Building Permits unless otherwise approved by the Public
Works and Planning Departments. The parcel map shall
be prepared on the California coordinate system (NAD83)
and that prior to recordation of the parcel map, the
surveyor /engineer preparing the map shall submit to the
County Surveyor a digital- graphic file of said map in a
manner described in Section 7 -9 -330 and 7 -9-337 of the
Orange County Subdivision Code and Orange County
Subdivision Manual, Subarticle 18.
That prior to recordation of the parcel map, the
surveyor /engineer preparing the map shall tie the boundary
of the map into the Horizontal Control System established
by the County Surveyor in a manner described in Section
s 7 -9 -330 and 7 -9 -337 of the Orange County Subdivision
Code and Orange County Subdivision Manual, Subarticle
18. Monuments (one inch iron pipe with tag) shall be set
On Each Lot Comer unless otherwise approved by the
Subdivision Engineer. Monuments shall be protected in
place if installed prior to completion of construction
project.
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That all improvements be constructed as required by
Ordinance and the Public Works Department.
4. That each dwelling unit be served with an individual water
service and sewer lateral connection to the public water
and sewer systems unless otherwise approved by the Public
Works Department and the Building Department.
5. That any cracked or displaced sections of sidewalk be
reconstructed at such time as drive approaches are
constructed along the Hazel Drive frontage. All work shall
be completed under an encroachment permit issued by the
Public Works Department.
That County Sanitation District fees be paid prior to
issuance of any building permits.
Disruption caused by construction work along roadways and
by movement of construction vehicles shall be minimized by
Proper use of traffic control equipment and flagmen.
Traffic control and transportation of equipment and
materials shall be conducted in accordance with state and
local requirements.
That prior to the issuance of building permits on the three
parcels, the owner or owners, shall record a covenant
approved as to form by the City Attorney, which shall
guarantee that no construction or landform alteration below
the 85 foot contour line (71.16 MSL) shall be permitted on
the subject property.
That Coastal Commission approval shall be obtained prior
to the recordation of the parcel map.
10. That a park dedication fee for one dwelling unit shall be
paid in accordance with Chapter 1950 of the Municipal
Code.
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11. That this resubdivision shall expire if the map has not been
recorded within 3 years of the date of approval, unless an
extension is granted by the Planning Commission.
Use Permit No. 1727 (Amended) (Continued Public Hearing)
Item No.
Request to amend a previously approved use permit which
UP1727 (A
permitted the establishment of a restaurant with on -sale alcoholic
beverages and established a parking requirement based on one
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parking space for each 40 square feet of "net public area ". The
proposed amendment includes a request to change the operational
characteristics of the restaurant so as to permit adult live
entertainment as well as patron dancing to prerecorded music and
live entertainment; and a request to provide valet parking spaces.
LOCATION: Parcel 2 of Parcel Map No. 45 -23
(Resubdivision No. 347) located at 4248
Martingale Way, westerly of MacArthur
Boulevard, between Martingale Way and
Dolphin - Striker Way, in the Newport Place
Planned Community.
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APPLICANT: Tily B. Inc., dba Mirage of Newport, Santa
Ana
OWNER: Nuccio Reality and Investment Co., Corona
del Mar
ames Hewicker, Planning Director, referred to the
correspondence from Mr. Ronald Talmo, the applicant's attorney,
dated January 19, 1994, and the addendum to the staff report that
were transmitted to the Commission. The addendum addresses
parking requirements for other restaurant facilities within the City.
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In response to a question posed by Commissioner Edwards
regarding the request for valet parking, William Laycock, Current
Planning Manager, stated that the plot plan indicates that a certain
number of parking spaces would be utilized for valet parking, and
the staff report discussed the number of valet parking spaces. The
plot plan also states that if additional valet parking spaces are
needed they would utilize additional parking spaces in the parking
lot for valet parking spaces.
The public hearing was opened in connection with this item, and
Mr. Ronald Talmo, 2415 North Hesperian, Santa Ana, attorney for
the applicant, appeared before the Planning Commission. Mr.
Talmo stated that the intent is to use valet parking but not in
segregated parking spaces. Parking spaces are available in front of
the building that the establishment is entitled to use, and valet
parking would be intermixed with customer parking if the
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customer would decide to use the valet service.
Acting Chairman Glover asked Mr. Talmo, as a representative for
our client, accept the findings and conditions of Exhibit "A"? Mr.
Talmo replied they do not accept the findings and conditions and
the letter that was submitted indicates their position as to the
conditions.
Commissioner Gifford asked if he bad read the supplemental staff
report, and Mr. Talmo responded to the affirmative.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Edwards, Mr.
Talmo asked if the Commission received a copy of his January
19th letter addressed to the Commission, and Acting Chairman
Glover concurred. Mr. Talmo referred to page 3 of the letter,
regarding objections to specific conditions in the staff report.
Commissioner Edwards asked if it was Mr. Tahnds position to
totally strike Condition No. 3 [Obtaining a Newport Beach
Entertainment Permit]? Mr. Talmo responded that it is their
position that the Planning Commission does not have the
authority, under the Newport Beach Municipal Code, to grant or
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deny a conditional use permit as it relates to this location because
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of the adult live entertainment that is proposed. The City has a
very specific Code section that has been adopted to handle
businesses like theirs and that is the Adult Entertainment Business
Ordinance. The Ordinance specifically does not provide for the
requirement of a use permit. In fact, that is probably why it is
valid, unlike other cities in California whose Ordinances are
invalid. Commissioner Edwards stated that Mr. Talmo's position
is that No. 4 [Dance Floor Size] and No. 5 [Parking Spaces] would
also be totally stricken. Mr. Talmo stated that overall, their legal
position is that they should not be required to secure the approval
of a use permit by the Planning Commission. As to each of the
individual conditions in the staff report, no, they should not be
required to get something referred to as an Entertainment Permit
which, for sure, has been superseded by the specific Adult
Entertainment Ordinance. As far as Condition No. 4, they are
going to have a dance floor with a preferred area of 377 square
feet. Condition No. 5 was addressed in the main body of the letter.
Commissioner Edwards addressed Conditions No. 15 [Limitation
of Use for Theater Stage No. II], No. 17 [6 Foot Rule of Section
20.74.0201, No. 18 [Uniform Security Guard Outside], No. 22
[Areas Open to View], No. 25 [2.0 Foot Candle Lighting], and No.
31 [Health and Safety Catch -all Condition], and he asked Mr.
Talmo if it was his position that those also should be stricken as
terms and conditions under Exhibit "A". Mr. Tahno replied to the
affirmative - Condition No. 15 does not make sense. It is the
same formula no matter what happens. In reference to one
parking space for each 35 square feet of "net public area ", he
questioned what the purpose of 15 seats was: if they have 15 seats,
they have to have 3 parking spaces. If they remove 15 seats, the
square footage divided by 35 still requires 5 parking spaces.
Commissioner Edwards commented that the letter makes
reference to a couple of other actions around the County, and did
he understand that this owner operates elsewhere in the County?
Mr. Talmo replied to the affirmative. An and Olivia Nguyen
acquired Paddy Murphy's in Santa Ana about 2 -1/2 years ago.
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in Paddy Murphy's and Mr. Talmo replied "yes ". Commissioner
Edwards stated that there are four or five different little theaters
in the subject proposal and he requested Mr. Talmo to briefly
describe what would transpire in each one of the theaters. Mr.
Talmo referred to his December 13, 1993, letter attached to the
original staff report, and he asked if the Commission required
additional information as to what was submitted in the letter. Mr.
Talmo replied that is exactly the reason why a use permit is not
appropriate. Apparently, the only reason a use permit is required
is because food or beverages would be served in the facility. If
they did not serve food or beverage, then the establishment would
not be a restaurant under the City's Code. Commissioner Edwards
asked if they intend to serve food and beverages in the five rooms.
Mr. Talmo replied "yes ", that food or beverages would probably be
served in all five rooms. He said that is exactly the reason why
those types of questions, and that inquiry, is not an appropriate
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inquiry. What is going to occur in these rooms is topless or nude
dancing. If you have ever been to a topless or nude dance place
that is the entertainment that is going to be offered. Mr. Talmo
stated that Theater Stage No.11 is for videos, so there will be no
live entertainment in Theater Stage No. II.
Commissioner Edwards asked if the existing operation had been
cited for any violations of City and /or State Ordinances. Mr.
Talmo explained that in 1983 the City of Santa Ana attempted to
criminally prosecute in violation of their Ordinance, which
prohibits the operation. There is a permanent injunction in affect
against the City issued by the Orange County Superior Court.
Other than that action "no ", there are no City Ordinances involved
in Santa Ana and they have not been cited for any. Mr. Talmo
replied that ABC, (Alcoholic Beverage Control Board), has
currently issued an accusation against Paddy Murphy's. Paddy
Murphy's is rectangle. They took a corner of the room out of the
rectangle and eliminated the liquor from that corner, and ABC
alleges that is in violation of Rule 143 of the ABC and they are
seeking a revocation of their license. Commissioner Edwards
asked the number of violations alleged, and Mr. Talmo replied
that it is continuous, i.e. ABC requires a stage 18 inches above the
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level of the floor and the room does not comply with the ABC
requirement; ABC only allows topless dancing and the room is
nude; there is a dancer who is 20 years old in that room and ABC
prohibits under 21 years old in ABC license facilities. He
explained the current legal status between ABC and Paddy
Murphy's.
Commissioner Edwards asked if they intend to sell any alcohol on
the premises at this location. Mr. Talmo replied not without an
ABC license. Commissioner Edwards asked if he understood by
Mr. Talmo's comment that all of the dancers are female dancers.
Mr. Talmo replied affirmatively. Commissioner Edwards asked if
no male dancers would be allowed. Mr. Talmo replied that male
dancing may be permitted if the owner thinks it would be
profitable. Commissioner Edwards asked if the male dancers
would be totally nude. Mr. Talmo replied "yes ", if that is what the
public desires.
Acting Chairman Glover asked if Equal Opportunity Employment
is one of the Commission's purviews? Ms. Flory replied "no ", it is
not. Acting Chairman Glover stated that one of her concerns is to
see that it would only employ females.. She referred to Theater
Stage No. V, and she asked who would provide the policing? Mr.
Talmo replied that the establishment would monitor the theater,
and there will always be security guards on the premises. If there
is a problem, the security guards would throw the person out or
attend to the problem. Discussion ensued between Mr. Talmo and
Acting Chairman Glover regarding the alarm system that would
alert security if there was a problem occurring in the theater, and
if there was contact made, the person would be thrown out of the
building. Acting Chairman Glover expressed a concern that the
owners may find it financially rewarding to have male and /or
female dancers in Theater Stage No. V and they may not provide
security if it were financially rewarding. Acting Chairman Glover
asked if they would monitor from the viewpoint of what would
make them the most money or monitor according to the rules
stated here? Mr. Talmo stated that they make the most money by
staying in operation under the regulations that are applied to
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em. If they have arrests for illegal conduct they could end up
being closed as a nuisance in the City. Mr. Talmo said that what
e thought Acting Chairman Glover was saying is if sexual conduct
were to occur, and if they thought it profitable to allow to occur,
en why would they monitor it at all. Acting Chairman Glover
concurred, and that was based on Mr. Talmo's reason for saying
if a male dancer made it more profitable they would have a male
dancer. Mr. Talmo replied they do not intend to have male
ancers; however, may have a "Chippendale Club" type of male
how if it would be profitable. He commented that they do not
ant to be excluded from doing a male dance show.
ommissioner Gifford referred to Mr. Talno's letter dated
December 13, 1993, stating that The Mirage will however,
omply with all conditions imposed by the Planning
ommission but reserves the right to appropriately
hallenge any invalid conditions that might be imposed
ind enforced against it, and she asked if that was still his
osition. Mr. Talmo replied to the affirmative. She said that she
anted to be certain that is what he said in light of his more
pecific objections to certain conditions in his letter of January 19,
994. Mr. Talmo explained that the law requires at certain public
earings that certain objections be made, or otherwise, they are
ost, although it was his opinion that these would never be lost
ce they are constitutional objections. In response to a question
osed by Commissioner Gifford regarding Condition No. 15,
Exhibit "A ", [Limitation of Use for Theater Stage II], Mr. Talmo
xplained they do not want more than 15 seats in the theater, and
ere is no objection to a limitation in that room of 15 seats.
ommissioner Gifford commented that she visited the site this
ate and noticed that the booths in Theater Stage No. V that are
rovided for individual encounters for viewing of dancers have
resently solid doors on them. Mr. Talmo concurred. She said
at depending upon whether or not the condition provided here
s adopted specifically, Condition No. 22 [Areas Open to View]
bat would be changed if appropriate for whatever period it
emained applicable. Mr. Talmo said if they were unable to get
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t restrained. Commissioner Gifford referred to the proposed
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lexiglass to be installed in Theater Stage No. V and she
determined that a full height would prevent contact and would
provide distance between the patron and the dancer. Mr. Talmo
replied that they considered the possibility of the full plexiglass;
owever, the show changes. Commissioner Gifford asked if they
uld work an accommodation that it would require full plexiglass
etween the dancer and a customer. Mr. Talmo responded that
she meant by accommodation would they be willing to agree to
hat? Commissioner Gifford said "yes" and Mr. Talmo replied
'no ".
ommissioner DiSano addressed the parking lot, and he pointed
ut that he had driven past Paddy Murphy's in Santa Ana twice
is last week to look at the parking congestion outside the facility
nd that bothered him Mr. Talmo said that he had been their
awyer for 13 years. For some reason under the City Code in
971, the existing number of parking spaces was appropriate for
addy Murphy's; however, if they do anything to the outside of
at structure now they would fall under the current City Code and
be facility only has one -half of the required number of offstreet
arking spaces. Commissioner DiSano asked if Mr. Talmo had an
fficial response to the City's response to his letter of January 19th
egarding the parking. Mr. Talmo said that the addendum to the
taff report indicates that if you have a restaurant in Newport
each you have the possibility of various square footage
equirements depending on what gets imposed. What it shows is
hat somebody with discretion imposes some set number of
arking spaces differently. This Commission should not be
posing discretion on the number of parking spaces when they
meet the Code's minimum standard already - in fact, they are 12
arking spaces over the Code now. Staff is recommending one
azking space for each 35 square feet of "net public area ", and his
oint is what is so magical about this parking space number? The
taffs position on this is, is if you are a restaurant versus a bar,
(on are going to have more people come to the bar than to the
estaurant at any given moment in time, and he assumed that was
he premise behind staffs recommended parking requirement. If
he real problem is the number of people that come into a facility,
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then his suggestion is to restrict the number of people. Mr. Tahno
asked why doesn't the City just limit the occupancy?
Commissioner DiSano said that he was not trying to be
disagreeable, but his concern would be with the popularity with
that type of entertainment and the City would be in a position very
similar to what he saw at Paddy Murphy's. The City has a planned
community around the subject premises and there is no parking on
the street.
Commissioner Pomeroy referred to Commissioner DiSano's
comments, and he commented that it is possible there would be
parking available in the surrounding commercial area parking lots.
Commissioner Ridgeway referred to the City's parking
requirements, and staffs attempt to define the type of business the
subject establishment is. As a shopping center developer, he
commented that there are established parking standards for
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different types of commercial uses. In reference to Mr. Talmo's
letter dated January 19, 1994, he asked Mr. Talmo how he feels
the City's development standards under Chapter 20.74 is
preempted. Mr. Talmo indicated that he is not alleging that
Chapter 20.74 is preempted by State law - that is the Adult
Entertainment Ordinance itself. There is a provision in it,
however, that in his opinion is preempted - and that is the 6 foot
separation rule that is preempted. Commissioner Ridgeway asked
by Penal Code, and Mr. Talmo replied "yes ", Penal Code 318.5.
Mr. Talmo explained sexual conduct is covered by the State Penal
Code and all areas of sexual conduct are preempted. That was
changed with the addition of Penal Code Section 318.5 and 318.6
which said that a City may in fact directly regulate topless dancers
and topless entertainers and food and drink servers unless it is in
a theater. Their position is that they are a theater, thus Section
318.5 preempts local regulations over conduct that occurs in a
theater. And indeed some of the comments this evening are
concerned over the sexual behavior perhaps that may occur, and
that is exactly what is preempted. Commissioner Ridgeway stated
that there are a number of theaters in there, like Paddy Murphy's,
where Mr. Talmo said the ABC doesn't control. Mr. Talmo
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replied that the food and drink at this site is incidental to the
entertainment being provided - it is not the other way around.
Commissioner Ridgeway asked why they don't open up just as an
entertainment and non -food and non -drink place. Mr. Talmo
replied if they had a vending machine inside the establishment,
they would fall under the Restaurant Ordinance.
Commissioner Edwards stated that Mr. Talmo accurately
addressed in his two letters and his testimony of what he believes
to be the rights of the applicant, part of which he regressed in the
Commission's ability to even address the whole issue in the
manner in which they are addressing it under the use permit.
Does Mr. Talmo feel that the applicant has any obligation
whatsoever in terms of opening the business within the City. Mr.
Talmo responded the obligations of the applicant in the City are
to abide by the laws of the City. He said that he has no idea of
hat other type of an obligation they would have other than to be
one of the businesses in the City.
Mr. Steven Craig, Huntington Beach, appeared before the
Planning Commission on behalf of Mr. Stuart Ketchum and Mr.
ohn Skoby, the owners of the two adjacent restaurants that share
the common parking lot with the subject property. He read a
letter from Mr. Ketchum dated January 20, 1994, addressed to the
Tanning Commission. The letter stated why Mr. Ketchum and
Mr. Skoby oppose the subject use permit: traffic and parking
problems would be substantial; the proposed use would create an
tense usage of the facility; the proposed use would create a
ajor nuisance and would demand additional City services to
tigate such a nuisance; the proposed use is a cabaret and the
roposed activities make it clear that it would be a sexual
mounter establishment; and the proposed use would create major
conomic damage to Mr. Ketchum's establishment if it were
nd-Jacent to an adult entertainment establishment. In response to
question posed by Commissioner Edwards, Mr. Craig stated that
e did not have sufficient information regarding a reciprocal
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Mr. Andrew Hilinski, co -owner of the Classic Q, an establishment
adjacent to the subject property, appeared before the Planning
Commission. Mr. Hilinski addressed his concerns regarding a
potential parking problem. He indicated that his establishment
would utilize two -thirds of the parking lot this evening and would
fill the parking lot on Friday evening. Mr. Hilinski explained that
parking is prohibited in the adjacent commercial parking lots.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Edwards, Mr.
Hilinski explained that the parking area is shared equally by three
establishments located on the subject site. Mr. Hewicker stated
that the site was originally designated for three restaurants within
the Newport Place Planned Community. The way that the area
as established was that there would be three restaurant buildings
on three lots, and there is a recorded reciprocal egress /ingress and
parking agreement for all three of the property owners which gives
the establishments the right to use the pool of parking.
Commissioner Pomeroy addressed the success of the Classic Q and
the demand for parking.
There being no others desiring to appear and be heard, the public
hearing was closed at this time.
mmissioner Ridgeway asked if the square footage were reduced
to comply with the parking, are there any grounds to deny the use
permit. Ms. Flory explained that the Commission does not have
e discretion under the use permit because of the first
amendment issue in regard to the entertainment to deny on a
general health, safety, and welfare basis. The Commission has the
bility to impose conditions with regards to the usual form of
egulation that the Commission would need for any type of
usiness that would offer entertainment, parking as well. As
onditioned, the use permit could be approved; however, a
scretionary determination based on parking, or lack of parking,
r based upon the type of entertainment being provided cannot
eny the use permit. Commissioner Ridgeway addressed Chapter
0.74, Secondary Affects. Ms. Flory replied that the Commission
ould have to have substantial evidence to that affect and she was
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not certain that the Commission had the evidence that was
presented during the public hearing. Commissioner Ridgeway
asked if the Santa Ana Police Department or the Newport Beach
Police Department were contacted to present evidence to the
other activities that may occur around these types of
establishments. Ms. Flory replied that part of the problem that
Mr. Talmo pointed out about the use permit process is the
discretion of making a general health, safety and welfare
determination is what could be considered a prior restraint on
speech. Looking into problems of another business or denying a
use permit based upon that would put a prior restraint on their
speech and the ability for them to go into operation at this time.
The Police Departments were not contacted for that reason
inasmuch as the information would not be relevant for the
determination for the Commission. Commissioner Ridgeway
stated that the proposed development is not a proper use for
Newport Beach, but he was not certain that he could deny it. He
addressed the discussion on parking; however, if the applicant is
prepared to accept a smaller square footage of "net public area'
based upon the prior restraint consideration the Commission has
no grounds to deny the use permit. He asked if that was a correct
statement. Ms. Flory replied that based upon the type of
entertainment, the Commission has no grounds to deny the use
permit. The Commission has valid reasons to provide conditions
to the operation of the business as a live entertainment business
regardless of what type it is, whether it is nude, or whatever. The
specific zoning considerations for applicable parking, for regulating
activities or to prohibit unlawful activities, that type of thing, that
the Commission would for any other type of business would pose
those types of problems. But to deny it, that would be a prior
restraint.
Commissioner Gifford addressed Exhibit "B ", Findings for Denial.
Ms. Flory stated that Finding No. 5 (detrimental to the health,
safety, peace, morals, comfort, and general welfare ... of the City,
inasmuch as the proposed development could result in a significant
increase in the intensity of use of the subject property), would be
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entertainment..will increase the intensification of use of the
property and generate an increase in traffic..), 2 (..five
entertainment and patron dancing-represents a significant
intensification of use from the existing restaurant operation..), 3
(..valet parking is unacceptable..), and 4 (..shared parking facilities
are inadequate for the total combined use of the property..) would
have to be established by substantial evidence.
Commissioner DiSano addressed Finding No. 4, Exhibit 'B ", and
in light of the testimony of the Classic Q and in light of the
testimony by the representative of Mr. Ketchum for the owners, is
that not sufficient evidence? Ms. Flory stated that the regulation
for the parking can be conditioned on a determination of limiting
the occupancy or limiting the parking, but it would not be
sufficient to deny the use permit because the Commission can
condition the use and restrict the occupancy or the "net public
area" to reduce the demand on parking for the project. The
speech involved does not necessarily allow certain amounts of "net
public area" or any kind of occupancy they want if it is going to
impact the parking and the traffic circulation of the surrounding
area. Commissioner DiSano expressed his concern that patrons
would come to the establishment, that the parking lot and traffic
would cause congestion, and the patrons would stand in a very
long que line. Ms. Flory said that there are other businesses in the
City where that happens, i.e. 1313G's, and there has been an
established parking requirement for those uses and she did not
believe that because it is popular and because people are willing
to wait outside is a valid reason for denying the use permit.
Commissioner DiSano and Ms. Flory. discussed the parking
requirements.
In response to comments by Commissioner Pomeroy regarding the
application for a use permit and the Adult Entertainment
Ordinance, Ms. Flory said that based upon the way the Ordinance
is drafted and the regulations occur at this moment, she believed
that the use permit is appropriate. Mr. Talmo has an opposing
view and he has some basis for complaint as far as discretionary
action and the prior restraint. She believed that the use permit
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consideration is a valid consideration for regulations, the same
regulations that would be for any kind of live entertainment which
has been before the City. Commissioner Pomeroy said that
because of the live entertainment, food service and beverage
service, the establishment would fall under use permit regulations.
Therefore, if there is a fact in the Adult Entertainment Ordinance,
the Ordinance should be modified so as to make sure that it does
not supersede the provisions of the Use Permit Ordinance.
Commissioner Pomeroy addressed Condition No. 23, Exhibit "A ",
That no person under the age of 18 years shall be
permitted within the premises at any time and he asked if
it means that a busboy cannot work in the kitchen if he is under
18 years old, and does it mean that a cleaning person cannot come
in when the business is not open and work there? Ms. Flory
replied that for adult oriented entertainment, the minimum age of
18 is the usual condition. Ms. Flory said the condition could be
modified to state while it is open for business rather than at any
time. Commissioner Edwards suggested ..during business
hours.. Commissioner Pomeroy referred to Condition No. 22,
Exhibit "A" That all indoor areas of the business where
patrons are permitted except restrooms, shall be open to
view at all times, and he commented that be did not recall the
condition being imposed on any other restaurant. Ms. Flory said
that it has not, and she thought that this condition as well as a
uniformed security guard are valid conditions in an Ordinance for
the reasons for prohibiting or regulating unlawful sexual activity.
Commissioner Pomeroy asked if the Adult Entertainment
Ordinance was supposed to do this. Ms. Flory replied that it does
of have these regulations in there; however, the Ordinance is
going to be amended to provide the appropriate regulations. In
reference to Condition No. 24, Exhibit "A", ..the restrooms
hall be free from all sexually oriented materials and
merchandise.. and he asked if that means there cannot be a
condom machine in there as there are in many restrooms in
establishments in Newport Beach. Ms. Flory said that is what the
condition would mean. Commissioner Pomeroy referred to
Condition No. 17, Exhibit "A", That no person shall perform
entertainment which depicts, describes or relates to
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"specified sexual activities" or exhibits "specified
anatomical areas" as defined in Section 20.74.020 of the
Newport Beach Municipal Code except upon a stage at least
eighteen (18) inches above the level of the floor which is
six (6) feet from the area occupied by patrons, and no
patron shall be permitted within six (6) feet of the stage
while the stage is occupied by an entertainer, in light of
what Mr. Talmo brought up. Ms. Flory replied that Chapter 20.74,
addresses the 6 foot separation restriction, it is a valid regulation,
and it has not been preempted. The City is not regulating sexual
activity inasmuch as sexual activity is regulated by the Penal Code.
The City is regulating a situation to inhibit or keep a situation that
would allow or encourage unlawful sexual activity under Penal
Code. In other words, there is a potential for prostitution,
unlawful sexual activity, and the 6 foot separation regulation has
in other cases been determined to be a valid regulation that does
not unreasonably inhibit speech to prevent that type of
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problem-not to prevent speech, not to regulate speech, but only to
inhibit violation of law. Commissioner Pomeroy said that when
the Commission adopted the Adult Entertainment Ordinance he
bad several questions regarding this so it would be explained to
him, and he asked why the condition is here when it is in the
Adult Entertainment Ordinance. Ms. Flory replied that the City
has often included conditions similar to other restrictions of the
Code in the use permits.
Mr. Hewicker addressed Condition No. 15, pertaining to Theater
No. II, he said that staff would not object to deleting ...Any
increase in the number of seats or conversion to 'net
public area" shall not be allowed unless an amendment to
this use permit is approved by the Planning
Commission... He said that it would not change the parking
requirement.
Motion
Motion was made to approve Use Permit No. 1727 (Amended)
subject to the findings and conditions in Exhibit "A ", with the
following modifications: Condition No. 15, delete Any increase
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shall not be allowed unless an amendment to this use
permit is approved _2f' the Planning Commission; delete
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Condition No. 17; delete Condition No. 22; add at the end of
Condition No. 23 ...,during business hours...; Condition
No. 24, delete ..The restrooms shall be free from all
sexually oriented materials and merchandise. Restrooms
may not contain television monitors, or other motion
picture or video projection, recording, or reproduction
equipment.
In response to a question posed by Acting Chairman Glover with
respect to Mr. Talmo's acceptance of the aforementioned
modifications, Ms. Flory replied that Mr. Talmo indicated his
opposition and his intent to challenge any conditions that he does
not agree with. Acting Chairman Glover asked Mr. Talmo if he
would accept the motion. Mr. Talmo concurred with Conditions
No. 15, 17, 22, 23, and 24 as amended. Mr. Talmo stated his
objection still stands on the other conditions as indicated in his
letter dated January 19, 1994. Commissioner Edwards commented
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that Mr. Talmo previously stated that he reserves the right to
challenge.
Commissioner Gifford asked the maker of the motion the reason
for his intent to delete Condition No. 17, which is included in the
Adult Entertainment Ordinance. Commissioner Pomeroy stated
that his feeling is not to try and say that the establishment is
something that he would personally want to see in the City of
Newport Beach; however, the Commission spent a lot of time
working on the Adult Entertainment Ordinance, and the
Commission tried to make sure that the Adult Entertainment
Ordinance complied with the law. No matter how you feel about
a moral issue, the Constitution is designed to protect individual
rights, and we need to try and pay attention to those individual
rights. The items are quite clearly set forth in the Adult
Entertainment Ordinance. There is no point repeating something
again since the applicant has already said that he agrees to comply
with the Adult Entertainment Ordinance. Ms. Flory stated that the
applicant intends to challenge the 6 foot separation limitation, and
he does not intend to comply with it. Commissioner Gifford
stated that as long as it is a condition that is equivalent of a
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included since it does not impose any greater burden. Ms. Flory
stated that in many respects a lot of the conditions for use permits
are repeated where they are required in other provisions, i.e. the
Uniform Building Code, and many times the condition becomes a
part of the use permit as something to comply with and it also acts
as an additional notice to the applicant of the requirement.
Commissioner Pomeroy stated that he would have no objection to
leaving Condition No. 17 in the motion. Commissioner Gifford
stated that she would not support the motion regardless of whether
Condition No. 17 was in or out, she wanted to know his rationale,
and she wanted it on the record that the intent was not to change
the obligation to comply with that provision of the Ordinance by
removing it as a condition.
Commissioner Ridgeway stated that he does not see how he could
vote against Use Permit No. 1727 (Amended) other than it is an
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improper use for the City of Newport Beach. Legally, there have
been other issues on prior occasions where he voted reluctantly,
and he is in the same position. He said that he has no choice but
to vote for approval of the application, based upon everything that
is before the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Edwards respectfully disagreed with the motion, and
we want to have the right to address the issue. We have
historically, for the history of the City, addressed the subject of
intensification of use, etc. and use permits. He did not believe
that the applicant sustained its burden with regard to the necessary
findings that he needed to make. There is sufficient testimony to
support a denial, and he will vote to deny. One of the things that
has been entered into the record is a letter by Mr. Ketchum who
is an adjoining landowner, who works in the neighborhood, and
who talks in terms of the very issue which has some concern for
the City, i.e. parking.
Commissioner Gifford asked the maker of the motion if his
motion included Condition No. 5, one parking space for each 40
square feet of "net public area ", or alternate Condition No. 5
discussed in the staff report of one parking space for each 35
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square feet of "net public area ". Commissioner Pomeroy stated
that it is his intent to support staff s recommendation to comply
with the proper parking requirements, or one parking space for
each 35 square feet of "net public area ".
Commissioner DiSano addressed the testimony from Classic Q and
Mr. Ketchum, and he made a discretionary decision. He stated
that there are two statements under Exhibit "B" that do not speak
to the constitutionality of the entertainment. What he is
concerned with is the parking. The intensification of use would be
there, the parking would not be met, and he is not going to
support the motion.
Acting Chairman Glover stated that normally when a person builds
a house in a neighborhood they go to their neighbors and they
approach them with their project, and they work with them. There
is usually an accommodation where everyone agrees at some point.
Basically, to a certain extent, that is what it is here - there are
three restaurants that have been there for awhile and the City
needs all three of those restaurants to be open and to be
generating business in the community. She did not want to
preclude that so she would not support the motion.
Motion
Withdrawn
Based on the circumstances, Commissioner Pomeroy withdrew his
motion.
Motion
Commissioner DiSano made a motion to deny Use Permit No.
1727 (Amended) subject to Findings No. 2 and No. 4 in Exhibit
"B"
Commissioner Gifford addressed Finding No. 3, [Valet Parking]
Exhibit "B ", and she asked to what extent it is applicable or
inapplicable. Mr. Talmo appeared before the Planning
Commission and he indicated there would be valet parking but no
parking spaces would be reserved for such a use in the parking lot.
He indicated that the plot plan that has been submitted designates
specific parking spaces for valet parking and that is an error.
However, they would like to have valet parking. In response to a
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question posed by Commissioner Gifford, Mr. Hewicker queried
Mr. Laycock if Finding No. 3 were based upon the fact that the
applicant stated that they were going to use a portion of the
parking lot exclusively themselves and therefore, exclude the right
of the other two restaurant uses in the area to park, or was it the
fact that the concept of valet parking by its very nature would
indicate that people stopping, and picking up automobiles, and
parking them somewhere else on the lot and not necessarily in
front of their own restaurant would use more than their fair share
of parking spaces. Mr. Laycock replied the valet parking concept
itself. The three restaurants have free access to all of the parking
spaces in the common lot, and the concept would be inapplicable
in this particular case because of the joint use of the parking lot.
Mr. Hewicker stated that all of the parking spaces in the lot
should be independently accessible for all three uses as opposed
to a valet parking attendant which would tend to park cars in
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certain areas.
Commissioner Pomeroy said that be could not support the motion.
He thought the Commission by attempting to use a "very gray
interpretation" of parking is trying to deny the use because they do
not believe the use is appropriate for the City of Newport Beach
even though it is permitted by the City's Ordinance. Mr. Talmo
by virtue of the use permit meets all of the requirements of the
City of Newport Beach as far as parking is concerned. For the
Commission to say that the proposed facility may be too popular
for the number of parking spaces, the Commission has not done
that on other uses, and he did not think it was appropriate or fair,
and be would not support the motion to deny.
Commissioner Gifford asked the maker of the motion to amend
the motion to include Finding No. 1 "Exhibit B ", as follows: That
the proposed restaurant facility will increase the
intensification of use of the property and generate a use
in traffic. Commissioner DiSano agreed to amend the motion.
MCommissioner
Ridgeway addressed previous testimony. If the
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parking lot is two - thirds filled this evening and there was another
restaurant open for business on the site, there would be the same
parking problem. It does not matter about the use. He agreed
with Commissioner Pomeroy inasmuch as the applicant has met
the requirements of the Codes, and Ordinances that the City has
written and staff has indicated a support for the project based on
that. Are these same people going to come before the Planning
Commission when another restaurant comes in or when Mr.
Ketchum has a new user? Is the individual who testified earlier
going to say be cannot do that because he is using two- thirds of
the parking spaces? He respectfully disagreed with Commissioner
DiSano in what he heard this evening.
Commissioner DiSano responded that there are three restaurants
on the site. The City is trying to make sure that economic vitality
goes across the board in the City of Newport Beach. He suggested
uses that make sense would be a restaurant, a gaming business like
the Classic Q, and /or a dessert- coffee house so that an individual
could dine in one place, play in another place, and have coffee and
dessert in another place. The uses would not attract more people,
but the same people that park there would go to three different
venues - that is planning. He is not de facto constitutionally trying
to prevent the applicant from having a business - if the use were
on a lot with more parking spaces, he would have the same
argument as the other Commissioners but the use does not have
adequate parking, and that is why he made his motion.
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Motion was voted on to deny Use Permit No. 1727 (Amended)
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subject to Findings No. 1, No. 2, and No. 4 in Exhibit "B ".
Absent
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MOTION CARRIED.
FINDINGS:
1. That the proposed restaurant facility will increase the
intensification of use of the property and generate a use in
traffic.
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dancing to the restaurant facility represents a significant
intensification of use from the existing restaurant operation
which will generate an increase in the parking demand
which cannot be accommodated by the available on -site
parking.
3. That the shared parking facilities are inadequate for the
total combined use of the property which includes two
other restaurants.
Discussion Item:
Disc.
Item
Use Permit No. 3387
UP3387
Planning Commission review of a previously approved use permit
that permitted the expansion of an existing non-profit private club
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associated with substance recovery located in an existing
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commercial building which is nonconforming relative to the off-
street parking requirement. The building is located in the
"Specialty Retail" area of the Cannery Village /McFadden Square
Specific Plan Area. Said approval also included the waiver of a
portion of the required off -street parking.
LOCATION: Lots 32 and 33, Block 431, Lancaster's
Addition, located at 414 32nd Street, on the
southerly side of 32nd Street between
Newport Boulevard. and Villa Way, in the
Cannery Village /McFadden Square Specific
Plan Area.
ZONE: SP-6
APPLICANT: The Newport Beach Alano Club Inc.,
Newport Beach
OWNER: Same as applicant
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Commissioner Gifford asked if staff had received any complaints
concerning the establishment. William Laycock, Current Planning
Manager, replied that staff has not received any complaints.
Commissioner Gifford commended the organization for doing
what was necessary to improve the private club.
No action was taken by the Planning Commission.
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Motion
Motion was made and voted on to direct staff to initiate an
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amendment to Districting Map No. 18 so as to delete the 10 foot
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front yard setbacks on property located at 344 -352 Hazel Drive.
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MOTION CARRIED.
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Commissioner Edwards suggested that the Planning Commission
Agenda
agenda items be "streamlined ", or to consider action similar to a
Consent Calendar.
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lanning Director Hewicker discussed the Economic Development
Econ Dev
Committee and its recommendations with the Planning
Commission.
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A,DJOURNMIENT: 9:35 p.m.
Adjourn
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ANNE K GIFFORD, SECRETARY
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
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