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• Planning Commission Minutes
March 4, 1999
Regular Meeting - 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Fuller, Ashley, Selich, Gifford, Kranzley; Hoglund, and Tucker - all
present
Sharon Z. Wood - Assistant City Manager
Patricia L. Temple - Planning Director
Robin Clauson - Assistant City Attorney
Richard Hoffstadt- Development Engineer
Eugenia Garcia - Associate Planner
Niki Kallikounis- Planning Secretary
• Chairman Selich, on behalf of the Commission and himself,
welcomed the new Commissioners, Messrs. Hoglund and Tucker to
the Planning Commission.
Minutes of February 18, 1999:
Motion was made by Commissioner Fuller and voted on, to approve as written
the February 18th Planning Commission Minutes.
Ayes:
Fuller, Ashley, Selich, Kronzley
Noes:
None
Absent:
Abstain:
Hoglund, Tucker
Public Comments None
Posting of the Agenda:
The Planning Commission Agenda was posted on Friday, February 26, 1999
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SUBJECT: Davidsson Residence (D & L Engineering, applicant)
3000 and 3002 Breakers Drive
• Amendment No. 882
• Resubdivision No.1059
(Continued from February 18, 1999)
Amendment to revise Districting Map No. 18 to establish a 5 foot front yard
setback on Breakers Drive in conjunction with the resubdivision of two parcels of
land for the purpose of reorienting the front of the lots to Breakers Drive. An
exception to the Subdivision code is also requested because the interior parcel
is less than the required 50 foot lot width and 5,000 sq. ft. total area for interior
lots, and the corner parcel is less than the required 60 foot lot width and 6,000
sq. ft. total area for corner lots.
• Mrs. Garcia stated that there were two main issues regarding the
proposed project, compliance with subdivision requirements and
setbacks. She noted that there are three critical findings that must be
made to approve an exception to the subdivision code, Approval of the
project will allow both properties to operate independently of each with
separate access for each property. The proposed amendment will
establish 5 -foot front yard setback on Breakers Drive, which is consistent
• with development along Breakers.
Mrs. Garcia also noted that staff has also received two letters from the
Breakers Drive Community Associations regarding potential parking
problems in the area. Mrs. Garcia explained that part of the demolition of
the front building, which is at 3000 Breakers Drive, includes a car port that
is currently occupied with storage materials. She stated it has come to
staff's attention that perhaps the parking is a problem because the
garages may not be used for parking vehicles. Mrs. Garcia stated that
staff will have Code Enforcement follow -up on that and make sure the
garages are accessible for parking to allay any problems in the area. Mrs.
Garcia provided the Commission with photographs of the carport and
storage area at 3000 Breakers. Mrs. Garcia pointed out that the second
floor above is the area to be demolished so that the 3002 property can
gain access to their garage.
• Commissioner Fuller referred to the staff report, and asked for clarification
of the lot sizes provided. Mrs. Garcia confirmed that 2689 square feet is
the correct number. Commissioner Fuller said if that change were made
there then they would also make the change under Resubdivision No.
1059, page 9, Item 3, second bullet point. Mrs. Garcia agreed.
Commissioner Fuller referred to page 6, the 4th line from the bottom, under
Amendment No. 882, it says, "...the exception of both rear yards, which
• are 2 feet and 5 feet, instead of 10 feet...," he asked if that is referring to
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the setbacks. Mrs. Garcia responded yes. Commissioner Fuller asked if it
should be 3 feet? Mrs. Garcia clarified that the rear yard setback will be
required to be 10 feet, and that existing buildings are currently set back
respectively.
Commissioner Fuller asked if they are deleting some parking area? Mrs.
Garcia stated she is not sure whether the carport is currently being used,
but both 2- family dwellings have 2 enclosed parking spaces, which is the
minimum required by code. Commissioner Fuller asked if, after demolition,
this would still comply? Mrs. Garcia responded yes.
Commissioner Ashley asked if the two communications received from the
Board of Directors of the Breakers Community Association were signed?
Mrs. Garcia responded that they were received unsigned. Commissioner
Ashley asked if we know that the letters are authentic and sent by the
Breakers Association? Mrs. Garcia noted she received a call from Mr.
Jack Larson who said he represented the Board of Directors, and he also
came in to look at the plans. Assistant City Attorney Clausen stated
because there is not a signed letter, the letter can be considered with the
weight it carries.
• Chairman Selich referred to the photograph of the property and asked if
there would be sufficient room in front of the garage for two off - street
parking spaces? Mrs. Garcia noted for clarification, in front of the 3002
Breakers Drive property, which is the interior lot, there is approximately 23
to 24 feet in the front of the garage. Chairman Selich noted, of all existing
parking spaces, whether they are being used or not, that this would be
losing one parking space, the carport, and asked if that is correct. Mrs.
Garcia responded that is correct.
Public Comment opened.
Luc Jeudy, 418 Santa Ana Avenue, Newport Beach, applicant, requested the
approval of his request. Chairman Selich asked Mr. Jeudy if he is in
agreement with the conditions of approval. Mr. Jeudy stated he is in
agreement with the findings.
Commissioner Fuller asked Mr. Jeudy how long he anticipates the
improvements will stay there and what plans does he have beyond this
project? Mr. Jeudy said a demolishing permit has been applied for and will
be started as soon as they have the permit. Commissioner Fuller asked, going
beyond that, what are Mr. Jeudy's plans to demolish both buildings ?, Mr.
Jeudy stated that those buildings will remain and be improved, depending
on the owner's desires. Commissioner Fuller suggested that if Mr. Jeudy were
to demolish both buildings, that he could straighten the lot line in the center
• and have two lots with more frontage of the ocean. Mr. Jeudy said he
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was
of the owner
is to preserve the two structures after the partial demolition is done, and use
the structures as they exist today
Charlotte Stevens stated she lives behind the property, and the property in
the front is for sale. She is concerned because of the height factor in case
they decide to scrape one or two of these buildings. Ms. Stevens stated she
does not have any problem with what they are doing now. She wanted to
know to whom she could talk to and find out how high they can go in front of
her. Ms. Stevens said she has a 4 -story structure, and the property in front of
her is a 2 -story structure. She said when she bought the property she was told
they could not go higher than 7 -feet and tonight she is hearing other things.
Ms. Stevens asked if this is a matter she should be concerned about? Ms.
Temple explained that the property Ms. Stevens lives in was built with the
benefit of a variance, and is higher than the height limit allows. Ms. Temple
stated the two properties under consideration are subject to the height
restrictions of the 24 -foot height limit, which allows for an average roof height
of 24 -feet above the existing grade, and a maximum ridge height of a
pitched roof at 29 -feet. Ms. Temple suggested that Ms. Stevens could make
an appointment with staff to review how we determine compliance with the
height limit. Ms. Temple noted, in absence of a variance, any structure would
have to comply with that.
Public Comment closed.
Commissioner Gifford made a motion to adopt Resolution No. 1492
recommending to the City Council approval of the Amendment No. 882 and
Resubdivision No. 1059 with the Findings and Conditions shown in the staff
report. Commissioner Kranzley asked if the motion would include the
changes in the staff report? Commissioner Gifford responded it would
include the change in the numerical multiplication on page 4, third line down
from 2529 square feet to 2689 square feet. The change would also include
the numerical figure in Resubdivision 1059, on page 9, item 3, second bullet
point.
Ayes: Fuller, Tucker, Ashley Selich, Gifford, Kranzley, and Hoglund
Noes: None
Absent: None
Abstain: None
SUBJECT: Discussion of Planning Commission approach and
participation in upcoming General Plan Amendments
(Requested by Chairman Selich).
Chairman Selich noted that the City Council, a week ago Monday,
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supported the Planning Commission's recommendation on taking a
comprehensive planning approach to Newport Center. He said they did not
go with the Planning Commission's recommendation on Cannery Village and
voted to initiate that amendment as submitted and not have a review of the
Cannery Village plan.
Chairman Selich noted that various groups such as the Economic
Development Committee, EQAC, SPON and a number of other groups have
made appeals to the City Council to take a more comprehensive approach
to look at the General Plan. The Council has made the decision to have a
community visioning process and then focus on the Airport Area, Newport
Center, and the Local Coastal Plan.
Chairman Selich explained that the Commission receives a lot of projects very
late in the planning process, particularly on the General Plan Amendments.
He stated all the work is done and the Commission virtually has no
involvement in the general planning process until the final stages when it
comes to the Commission for hearing. Then the Commission gets it 4 or 5 days
before the hearing, and by the time it gets to them, a lot of things are set in
place and they have very little flexibility to make changes.
• Chairman Selich noted that in particular in regards to Newport Center, there
is an opportunity for the Planning Commission to step up and change how
things are done on General Plans. Chairman Selich was concerned if the City
Council really understood what the Planning Commission's recommendation
was, so he talked to the Mayor and a couple of the Council Members and
concluded that they were thinking along the same lines as the Planning
Commission in taking their vote.
Chairman Selich stated he would like to have a discussion this evening to see
how the rest of the Commission feels about taking a different approach on
how the General Plan Amendments are done. He stated he would like to
focus on Newport Center first because he feels it is an opportunity to take
Newport Center and pull it together as a unit. It is a contained area of the
City that has the size and scope that they can deal with in a reasonable time
frame and approach from a very comprehensive planning point of view.
Chairman Selich stated that it seems like every time The Irvine Company
wants to do something at Newport Center or Fashion Island, there has been a
negative approach to it. This is an opportunity from a planning standpoint to
get away from the Land Use Element that we have where we have such
specific criteria. It has gotten to the point that in the last cycle of General
Plan Amendments a gentleman comes before the Commission and requests
an amendment to add 200 square feet to his lobby. That is not a General
Plan. One of the staff members has pointed out to Chairman Selich that, in
some ways, the Land Use Element is more restrictive than the Zoning Code
• because there is so little flexibility in the way that it is laid out.
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There might be an opportunity to use the Newport Center as a test case to
make the Land Use Element more general, and it would be something that
over time could be applied to other areas of the City. Also, there is an
opportunity to develop a long -range plan for Newport Center. The Irvine
Company has presented their submittal on the built -out of Newport Center,
but Chairman Selich does not think it is really true. The first factor is that The
Irvine Company does not own and control all of the property in Newport
Center; there is another amendment submitted by the Pacific Mutual tower
that wants to go up. This is an opportunity for the Planning Commission to
look at developing some type of long range concept. Chairman Selich
noted that looking at The Irvine Company's proposal, depending on
economic conditions, is a 5 to 10 year build out, not a 20 -year, long range
plan for Newport Center.
Chairman Selich noted that Newport Center has been characterized as
Newport Beach's downtown, and this is also an opportunity to define what
that means. These are some issues that need to be addressed in looking at
Newport Center. There is the issue of Newport Beach Country Club. There
has been talk of redeveloping the property with residential, or some resort
development in conjunction with some residential on their property. There
• are parking issues that should be looked at in Newport Center. Although
there is plenty of parking in Newport Center, there are distribution issues,
particularly in the theater and medical towers areas. There are other areas of
Newport Center that have excess parking.
Chairman Selich noted that he thought The Irvine Company representative
was not forthright at the last meeting when the discussion came up on the
open space area regarding the circular palm trees in the entrance of
Newport Center as to whether they wanted to encroach into those areas or
not. Chairman Selich stated he personally thinks the palm trees are a
valuable amenity to the community and would not like to see them go. He
stated this is an issue that needs to be addressed.
Chairman Selich stated they hear the Council discussing the senior housing/
open space issue on the parcel next to the library. He said this is an opportunity
to see whether there should be more residential in Newport Center or not. Also
to take a look at the design standards in Newport Center. Newport Center was
designed by Pererra back in the 60;s and was designed to be a regional
shopping office area at the intersection of two freeways that were never built.
Although the design has been changed and modified over the years, it has not
been done in an comprehensive overall manner. One of that the things that
look odd and out of place is entry from San Miguel from Avocado. Because it
was to be freeway, there is a little circle of trees, and these design elements
exist throughout Newport Center. Another semi - circle was created with those
• elements on MacArthur so that it always looks discordant to drive in and see
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that. Although it might be a small thing, it is a part of the design of the whole
center.
Pedestrian circulation has not been completely thought out as things have
changed over the years. Chairman . Selich noted that he does not
understand the philosophy set -up early on for building heights and view
corridors and does not understand how they fit into the scheme of things.
Chairman Selich noted there is a circulation problem with the short link of San
Miguel between MacArthur and Avocado. There are terrible stacking
problems there now particularly with the opening of Corona del Mar Plaza.
Chairman Selich stated that he heard a suggestion that he never gave
serious thought to until recently, and that is, at some point in time, Avocado
and MacArthur were to become one -way couplets. He thinks that idea
should be revisited because this would be the ideal time would be now
because a transition area would be needed to do it. A transition area still
exists at the corner of San Joaquin and MacArthur.
Chairman Selich said this is an opportunity to get the land use regulations in
proper hierarchy where there would be a generalized General Plan Land Use
Element. The types of things that are being put into the Land Use Element
• could be appropriately addressed through a specific Planned Community. In
response to a Commission question, Planning Director Temple indicated that
Newport Center is a combination of conventional zoning and a number of
Planned Communities. Chairman Selich stated that a big part of this type of
consideration would be how to do the process, so that the Planning
Commission could have a say how the plan evolves. He suggested one of
the things that could be done is to have study sessions, somewhat early on in
the process, so that the Commission could make earlier input. There might be
scoping sessions where they would have an opportunity to express what they
would like to see in Newport Center and develop some alternatives that
people can evaluate. They need to find a way to get property owners
involved, and get early community input.
Chairman Selich noted that although he focused on Newport Center there
are a lot of projects coming up such as the Airport Area. The Economic
Development Committee has made a strong recommendation to the City
Council that money be funded for a plan in the Airport Area with the next
two budget cycles. This recommendation seems to be getting some positive
reception from individual Council Members. There is the Local Coastal Plan,
which the staff will be doing. The Banning Ranch property being annexed by
the City, which is one that should have been planned by the City. There are
50 acres in Newport Beach, and there is a process going on that the
Commission is not involved in. There are persons making presentations to
different community groups, they are dealing with the County and with our
• staff to a degree and yet the Commission has no involvement with what is
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going on.
Commissioner Selich asked Mrs. Wood when Banning Ranch comes in, will the
City be able to apply the criteria of the Traffic Phasing Ordinance and
mitigate the traffic of the total project on the streets of Newport Beach and
not just on their 50 acres. Mrs. Wood said yes, but Chairman Selich wonders if
the Commission is not there early in dealing with this, what will happen when
the project comes to the Commission. There will be 50 acres that we will be
dealing with officially and the rest will be unofficially since it is outside the City.
Chairman Selich stated he feels it would be appropriate for the Commission
to be involved in the Banning Ranch project.
Commissioner Fuller stated he agrees that the Commission gets items too late.
He stated he liked the concept of a study session. Commissioner Fuller feels it
would be worthwhile to get involved. He stated one of the issues that they all
deal with is the TPO, which is not a General Plan Amendment, but thinks there
are items even beyond the General Plan Amendment that he would like a
briefing on. Commissioner Fuller stated with the possibility of the Newport
Coast, in addition to the Newport Dunes, the Banning Ranch, Newport Center
and the Airport Area, there are, some big items that the Commission should
be involved in.
• Commissioner Selich noted, in his discussions with the Mayor, the Mayor was
supportive of the Commission getting involved and filling in this void because
the Council wants to do this type of comprehensive planning but does not
have the time to do so. Chairman Selich stated that the Mayor suggested
the Commission have a joint study session with the Council on the 22nd of
March.
Commissioner Gifford stated she is very supportive of the general philosophy
of having a longer lead -time for the. Commission to become familiarized with
the evolution of a project. She stated it is easier to be in tune with something
and have input as they go along, so that the evolution of it keeps pace with
everybody's thinking. As a specific mechanism that is consistent with that
approach, Commissioner Gifford supports study sessions.
Commissioner Fuller asked Ms. Temple if there is any precedent for Planning
Commissioners having study sessions? Ms. Temple stated the Planning
Commission in Newport Beach has held study sessions on a very occasional
basis, and usually to have a pre- briefing of a larger project that was coming
close to public hearing. Those would generally occur one or two meetings
before the regularly scheduled public hearing. Ms. Temple stated that, here
in Orange County, she is aware of two agencies that hold regular study
sessions, although there could be many more, and they are the Cities of
Huntington Beach and Costa Mesa. Mrs. Wood noted in her former city
. Claremont, they typically did with both the Planning Commission and the
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Architectural Commission. Chairman Selich referred to the Open Space
Element that was reviewed about a year ago. He stated that was a project
that was in process a long time. The staff worked with the Parks Department
and Parks Commission. Chairman Selich stated that is a major element to the
General Plan and yet the Commission's attitude when they got it was it is
okay with the Parks Commission and so they did not get into it too much
Commissioner Gifford stated that one of the comments the Chairman made
draws distinction between historical use of study sessions, the idea of having a
study session to look at a large project coming up, but taking an integrated
approach to planning. Commissioner Gifford said, based on a number of
things that are in process and how they relate to the General Plan, she thinks
it would be good for the Commission to enter a period of regularly scheduled
study sessions. Commissioner Gifford suggested they could be immediately
before the Planning Commission meeting.
Commissioner Kranzley supports the Chairman's suggestions. He stated,
historically the Commissioners have met with the developers of the projects
on a one -to -one basis over the course of time. Commissioner Kranzley feels it
is important that they have the study sessions.
• Commissioner Ashley stated that he liked what the Chairman was saying. He
noted that, from the point of view of The Irvine Company, they should have
no objection on their part. Commissioner Ashley noted they have a lot of very
experienced, qualified executives and managers in the company, but they
are not above making mistakes. He said there is one thing a developer never
really wants to see happen and that is to go to a great expense of preparing
a plan, bring it in to the Planning Commission or City Council, and suddenly
discover that it is being denied or portions are coming under attach. As a
result only portions might be approved and that might throw out the entire
plan concept that the company had developed. Commissioner Ashley
stated he felt they would look with some favor upon the Commission getting
involved with them to make sure that whatever would come from them
would conform to whatever policies or implementation measures that would
be appropriate.
Chairman Selich stated that he is not sure he agrees that The Irvine Company
being in complete agreement with this approach because Newport Center,
outside of the TPO, is the biggest lightening rod in town when it comes to
getting people's emotions up from the planning and development
standpoint. The Irvine Company would probably prefer to just go ahead with
their amendments as proposed, just dealing with their four or five proposals
rather than dealing with the big picture standpoint.
Commissioner Ashley noted that with a proposal of 450,000 square feet of
• office space in Block 500, it is also proposing to add 1,820 more parking stalls,
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and there are only two streets that provide entrance to Block 500 parking. He
stated there is 180,000 square feet of office space plus some additional floor
area in the wings of the buildings attached to the existing twin towers. There
is not more than 240,000 square feet total in Block 500. If they are going to be
adding 450,000 more square feet they will be more than double the existing
amount. Commissioner Ashley stated that he thinks that will exceed the
capability of those streets to really be able to accommodate the amount of
traffic that will be coming in at peak time.
Commissioner Kranzley stated this would be a good opportunity for the
Commission to get public input early in the process and they can have an
understanding of what the public is thinking before it comes to the hearing.
Chairman Selich felt this was also an opportunity to approach it the way
planning should be approached, from a policy level on down to the specifics
of how many square feet are being put on various parcels and do it in a
rational manner. The Commission could set forth a vision or concept of what
the community wants Newport Center to be.
Commissioner Tucker asked, if the workshops are held, what is conveyed to
the applicant? Are the Commissioners encouraging certain things before
• they have a full public input? Commissioner Tucker stated, as a developer,
likes to hear where his issues are before spending a lot of money, heading in a
direction that is not right. He said one of the things the Commissioners need
to clarify for themselves before proceeding with the study session mechanism,
exactly what the grounds rules are going to be, what they are going to say,
and what they will feel free to encourage. Commissioner Tucker stated he
would be concerned about prejudging the process at an early stage.
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Chairman Selich agreed that the Commissioners have to be careful about
that. Chairman Selich also noted that the people who come to the study
sessions will have to understand that the Commission is not making decisions
at that time but it is an interchange of ideas and things are not being
prejudged.
Commissioner Fuller feels this will be a great opportunity to keep the
Commission informed. He referred to the Bonita Village annexation and noted
how there was a lot of material to go through in a short time. Whereas, if the
Commission had been in on it from the beginning, the information benefit is
worth the time.
Chairman Selich suggested the staff put together an outline for a process and
bring it back on the 18th to review at the end of the agenda. Chairman Selich
suggested that, in addition, to put together an outline of how to approach
Newport Center.
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Commissioner Ashley stated he is in agreement with the Chairman and what
everyone else has been saying. He suggested that the Commission should
probably invite Hyatt to meet with them to learn what their intentions may be
with respect to expansion or redevelopment of that hotel. Commissioner
Ashley also suggested inviting the Newport Dunes.
Commissioner Gifford suggested as part of what the staff is going to prepare in
terms of an outline for the Newport Center, regardless of what the total plan is,
that the Commission get a look at how the Center is regulated today, so they
can get a sense of what the lay of the land is.
Commissioner Hoglund asked at what point in the process that the developer
initiates contact with staff or vice versa. Commissioner Selich explained that
staff has a mechanism in the Development Review Committee, which was set
up at the direction of the Economic Development Committee. The
Development Review Committee is an opportunity for project proponents to
discuss their idea on a project very early. All City departments participate and
then the project proponent can decide if it is something that they either want
to continue or not. The developer then files his application, the environmental
process starts, and by the time it gets to the Planning Commission, everything
has been mitigated in one form or another and the Commission has not had an
• opportunityto get or give any input.
After discussion, the Planning Commission generally agreed to explore the
possibility of holding regular study sessions, for the purpose of early information
sharing, public input and involvement in early planning on both City initiated
planning programs (such as the TPO changes) and major development
projects (such as the Newport Dunes Hotel).
Staff was directed to develop an outline and general set of operational
guidelines for the conduct of study sessions, prepare an approach to the
consideration of the Newport Center General Plan Amendments, and to
provide information on the existing regulatory framework of Newport Center.
a.) City Council Follow -up - Oral report by the Assistant City Manager
regarding City Council actions related to planning - Mrs. Wood reported
the City Council sustained the Planning Commission's recommendation
on the initiation of General Plan Amendments, with the exception that
the Cannery Village request was allowed to move forward separate
from a consideration of the Cannery Village General and Specific Plans;
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and the City Council appointed the two new Planning Commissioners,
Larry Tucker and Mark Hoglund.
b.) Oral report from Planning Commission's representative to the Economic
Development Committee - Chairman Selich reported that the EDC
made its recommendation on the changes to the TPO at its last
meeting. In making its recommendation on the changesto the TPO, the
EDC also recommended that the level of service standard for the
Airport Area should be raised to "E," that the vote to override Ordinance
requirements be changed from 4 /5ths to 5 /7ths, that the intersection
averaging approach be eliminated in favor of the exempt intersection
procedure, that it supports the exempt intersection concept, and that
the threshold to require a traffic study be raised from 300 to 500 daily
trips.
c.) Matters which a Planning Commissionerwould like staff to report on at a
subsequent meeting - Commissioner Ashley requested that a
presentation by Taylor Woodrow Homes on the Banning Ranch project
be made to the Planning Commission.
d.) Matters which a Planning Commissioner may wish to place on a future
. agenda for action and staff report - None.
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e.) Requests for excused absences - Commission Fuller requested to
excused from the meeting of March 18th, and Commissioner Tucker
requested to be excused from the meeting April 8+h.
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ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 8:15 p.m.
RICHARD FULLER, SECRETARY
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
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