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CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
Planning Commission Minutes
March 9, 2000
Regular Meeting - 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Fuller, Kiser, Ashley, Selich, Gifford, Kranzley and Tucker -
All present
STAFF PRESENT:
Sharon Wood - Assistant City Manager
Patricia L. Temple - Planning Director
Robin Clauson - Assistant City Attorney
Rich Edmonston - Transportation /Development Services Manager
Patrick Alford - Senior Planner
Janet Johnson - Planning Department Assistant
Minutes of February 17.2000:
Motion was made by Commissioner Gifford and voted on to approve, as
amended, the minutes of February 17, 2000.
Ayes:
Fuller, Kiser, Ashley, Selich, Gifford, Kranzley, Tucker
Noes:
None
Absent:
None
Abstain:
None
Public Comments:
None
Posting of the Agenda:
The Planning Commission Agenda was posted on Friday, March 3, 2000.
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Public Comments
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SUBJECT. Big Belly D
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6310 West Coast Highway
• Use Permit No. 3666
A request to convert an existing 1,500 square foot retail building into a full -
service, small -scale eating establishment (pizza /deli) with 24 seats, that includes
a waiver of the off - street parking requirements, and to establish a new alcoholic
beverage service outlet pursuant to Chapter 20.89 of the Municipal Code.
Ms. Temple noted that on March 7th, she had received a forwarded message
from Commissioner Kranzley who had received e -mail from Steve Puppo,
President of the Newport Shores Community Association expressing their
concerns regarding the proposed project. Of particular concern was the lack
of parking on the subject site that could result in encroachment into the
residential neighborhood for parking. The report written by staff notes that the
existing business is legal and non - conforming but due to the reduction in the
number of on -site parking spaces and the increase in the overall number of
required spaces from 6 to 8 spaces, it does require a waiver of parking.
Commissioner Kranzley noted that the applicant is asking for 24 seats but
condition two address the use of 20 seats. Ms. Temple noted that this was a
typographical error and it should read 24 seats.
Public comment was opened.
Lon Bike, 14 Muse Street, Suite 8204, Irvine - project architect noted that his client
is concerned with parking and that there are some available public parking lots
across the street. There is metered parking on PCH immediately to the west that
would be available. We are asking for a minor modification to the project due
to the constraint of the site. We agree to the other recommendations made by
city staff.
At Commission inquiry, Mr. Bike added that there have been no discussions
regarding leasing parking from the owners at the Property House. However, they
would be willing to look at this.
Commissioner Ashley noted his concern of the available six parking spaces. Mr.
Bike answered that there are three parking spaces currently on site but will be
reduced to two spaces to accommodate handicap parking. Continuing he
stated that part of the customer base will be local residents in the area with a
large number arriving by bicycle or walking.
Mr. Bike stated that responding to the homeowners concern of parking in the
residential areas could possibly be addressed by entering into dialogue
regarding a parking agreement with the adjacent property owner, since the
businesses have off set hours.
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UP No. 3666
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Public comment was closed.
Commissioner Kranzley stated that he was not in favor of this application as it
stands for the following reasons:
• Unreasonable to expect patrons to park and then walk across Coast
Highway
• Unreasonable to expect that patrons will choose metered parking over free
parking in the adjoining neighborhood.
• Parking is a problem in Newport Shores neighborhood
• Employee(s) on site will probably use the one regular space, which means
that there will be no regular parking spaces for the patrons except for
handicapped parking.
• Even with a parking agreement with the Property House, this application will
require a parking waiver
Commissioner Ashley noted his agreement stating that he was unable to support
this application due to the parking. He suggested that the applicant work out a
reciprocal parking agreement with the adjoining property owner to the south.
Commissioner Fuller stated his agreement with previous statement and he would
not support this application as presented tonight.
Commissioner Tucker stated that this is a tough situation with the existing
situation of parking. However, a food use at this location is more likely to be a
success and of convenience to the neighborhood.
Public comment was opened.
Mr. Bike stated that in light of the commission discussion, requests a continuance
to April 6th to pursue a possible parking agreement with the adjacent property
owner to the south.
Motion was made by Commissioner Gifford to continue this item to the
meeting of April 6, 2000.
Ayes: Fuller, Kiser, Ashley, Selich, Gifford, Kranzley, Tucker
Noes: None
Absent: None
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SUBJECT: Bristol Farms
401 Newport Center Drive Suite 100A
• Use Permit No. 3670
A request to upgrade the existing Alcoholic Beverage Outlet approval to allow
for the sale of general alcoholic beverages for off -site consumption (Type 21
License).
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Up No. 3670
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Commissioner Fuller stated that he has had numerous calls regarding the on -site
sale of other than beer and wine as to whether it was permitted or not.
Ms. Temple clarified that it is not approved by the applicant's existing Alcoholic
Beverage Commission license or by the City.
Public comment was opened.
Jean Claude Sakoun, 1150 El Seton, Santa Monica representing Bristol Farms
clarified that the Type 20 License is off -site consumption of beer and wine, Type
21 License permits the sale of general alcohol for off -site consumption.
Public comment was closed.
Motion was made by Commissioner Fuller to approve Use Permit No. 3670 with
the findings and conditions attached in Exhibit A.
Ayes: Fuller, Kiser, Ashley, Selich, Gifford, Kranzley and Tucker
Noes: None
Abstain: None
. EXHIBIT "A"
FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR
Use Permit No. 3670
Use Permit No. 3670
Findings:
1. The Land Use Element of the General Plan designates the site for "Retail
and Service Commercial" use. A market use with alcoholic beverage
sales and service is considered a permitted use within this designation
and is consistent with the General Plan.
2. The project has been reviewed, and it has been determined that it is
categorically exempt under Class 1 (Existing Facilities) requirements of
the California Environmental Quality Act.
3. The project meets the purpose and intent of the development standards of
the Municipal Code for an upgrade to the existing alcohol license for an
existing food market and the existing physical characteristics of the site
are not proposed to be altered.
4. The proposed project is consistent with the purpose and intent of Chapter
20.89 of the Zoning Code (Alcoholic Beverage Outlets) for the following
reasons:
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The convenience of the public can arguably be served by the
sale of desired beverages in a market setting.
The percentage of alcohol - related arrests in the police
reporting district in which the project is proposed is lower than
the percentage citywide, and in the adjacent reporting
districts is higher than the citywide percentages, due to more
commercial land uses in these three reporting districts.
There are no residences, day care centers, schools, or park and
recreation facilities in the vicinity of the project site.
5. Approval of Use Permit No. 3670 to permit an upgrade for off -site
consumption of general alcoholic beverages will not, under the
circumstances of the case. be detrimental to the health, safety, peace,
morals, comfort and general welfare of persons residing or working in the
neighborhood or be detrimental or injurious to property or improvements
in the neighborhood or the general welfare of the City and is consistent
with the legislative intent of Title 20 of this Code for the following reasons:
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The market use is compatible with the surrounding commercial
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uses, since market uses are typically allowed in commercial
districts.
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Conditions of approval have been included which should
prevent problems associated with the sale and service of
alcoholic beverages and noise.
Adequate on -site parking is available for the existing and
proposed uses.
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The proposed use is a continuation of the existing market use,
which serves the residential and commercial uses and visiting
tourists in the area.
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The alcoholic beverage service is incidental to the primary use of
the facility as a food market.
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Because the market does not have a bar area specifically
designed for the service of alcoholic beverages, the potential
number of Police and Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control
problems in the area should be minimized.
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A finding of public convenience and necessity can be made
based on the public's desire for a variety of beverage choices in
a market setting.
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The design of the proposed improvements will not conflict with
any easements acquired by the public at large for access
through or use of property within the proposed development.
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Fashion Island also provides security, which will decrease the
opportunity for alcohol, related problems.
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Conditions:
1. The development shall be in substantial conformance with the approved
site plan and floor plan except as noted below.
2. The approval is only for an upgrade to the existing alcohol license to a Type
21 License as defined by Title 20 of the Municipal Code, as the principal
purpose for the sale of food and beverages.
3. This approval shall not be construed as permission to allow the facility to
operate as a bar or tavern use as defined by the Municipal Code,
unless a use permit is first approved by the Planning Commission.
4. The type of alcoholic beverage license issued by the California Board of
Alcoholic Beverage Control shall be a Type 21 license that permits
general alcoholic beverages to be sold. Any upgrade in the alcoholic
beverage license shall be subject to the approval of an amendment
to this application and may require the approval of the Planning
Commission.
• 5. Should this business be sold or otherwise come under different ownership,
any future owners or assignees shall be notified of the conditions of this
approval by either the current owner or leasing company.
b. On -sale alcoholic beverage service of beer and wine only shall be allowed
in the interior of the market and the common outdoor dining areas as
currently permitted by the State Department of Alcoholic Beverage
Control.
7. Loitering, open container, and other signs specified by the Alcoholic
Beverage Control Act shall be posted as required by the ABC.
8. The alcoholic beverage outlet operator shall take reasonable steps to
discourage and correct objectionable conditions that constitute a
nuisance in parking areas, sidewalks and areas surrounding the alcoholic
beverage outlet and adjacent properties during business hours, if directly
related to the patrons of the subject alcoholic beverage outlet.
9. Alcoholic beverage sales from drive -up or walk -up service windows shall be
prohibited.
10. The hours of operation shall be limited between 8 a.m. to 10 p.m., seven
days a week.
11. The exterior of the alcoholic beverage outlet shall be maintained free of litter
and graffiti at all times. The owner or operator shall provide for daily
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removal of trash, litter debris and graffiti from the premises and on all
abutting sidewalks within 20 feet of the premises.
12. All owners, managers and employees selling alcoholic beverages shall
undergo and successfully complete a certified training program in
responsible methods and skills for selling alcoholic beverages. To qualify
to meet the requirements of this section a certified program must meet
the standards of the California Coordinating Council on Responsible
Beverage Service or other certifying /licensing body which the State may
designate. The establishment shall comply with the requirements of this
section within 180 days of the issuance of the certificate of occupancy.
13. Records of each owner's, manager's and employee's successful completion
of the required certified training program shall be maintained on the
premises and shall be presented upon request by a representative of the
City of Newport Beach.
Standard Requirements
1. The project is subject to all applicable City ordinances, policies, and
• standards, unless specifically waived or modified by the conditions of
approval.
2. The on -site parking, vehicular circulation and pedestrian circulation systems
be subject to further review by the City Traffic Engineer.
3. All signs shall conform to the provisions of Chapter 20.67 of the Municipal
Code.
4. The facility and related off - street parking shall conform to the requirements
of the Uniform Building Code.
5. All improvements shall be constructed as required by Ordinance and the
Public Works Department.
6. Public Improvement may be required of a developer per Section 20.91.040
of the Municipal Code.
7. The project shall comply with State Disabled Access requirements.
8. This Use Permit for an alcoholic beverage outlet granted in accordance with
the terms of this chapter )Chapter 20.89 of the Newport Beach Municipal
Code) shall expire within 12 months from the date of approval unless a
license has been issued or transferred by the California State Department of
Alcoholic Beverage Control prior to the expiration date.
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9. The Planning Commission may add to or modify conditions of approval to
this Use Permit or recommend to the City Council the revocation of this Use
'Permit upon a determination that the operation which is the subject of this
Use Permit causes injury, or is detrimental to the health, safety, peace,
morals. comfort, or general welfare of the community.
10. This Use Permit shall expire unless exercised within 24 months from the date of
approval as specified in Section 20.80.090A of the Newport Beach Municipal
Code.
SUBJECT: Newport Dunes Partnership
101 North Boyside Drive and
1131 Back Bay Drive
• General Plan Amendmet No. 97 -3 F
• Local Coastal Plan Amendment No. 51
• Zoning Code Amendment No. 878
• Planned Community District Plan (PC -48)
• Development Agreement No. 12
• Traffic Study No. 115
• Environmental Impact Report No. 157
• Conceptual Precise Plan
• Final Precise Plan
A General Plan Amendment, Local Coastal Program Land Use Plan
Amendment, Zoning Code Amendment, and Planned Community District Plan
for the loo -acre Newport Dunes property and a conceptual precise plan for a
hotel and time -share complex with conference, meeting, and banquet
facilities, restaurants, a health club and spa, retail and services areas, and
swimming pools and landscaped garden areas.
Chairperson Selich noted that this is the fourth hearing on this project. He
explained that there will be additional information from staff, Planning
Commission inquiries, and then public hearing will be opened to allow the
applicant to present additional information then the hearing will be closed for
Commission discussion. The project review design changes, effectiveness of
balloon experiment, revised traffic study based on design changes. Then
there will be discussion of items of concern to commissioners and public
testimony.
Commissioner Kranzley stated that he received the traffic study Tuesday
evening of this week. Neither he nor anyone in the public had the opportunity
to review the document and suggested that it would not be constructive to
begin discussion or to have public comment on the revised traffic study until
the public and Commissioners have had the time to review it.
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Discussion Item Only
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Commissioner Kiser suggested that for those Commissioners who had the time
to review it should talk about some of the issues of concern to allow time for
revision or addendum.
Commissioner Tucker agreeing with previous comments, noted that there are
a lot of issues and questions on the topic of traffic and is highest priority.
Commissioner Fuller agreed with comments made by Commissioner Kranzley.
Commissioner Gifford noted that she spent the majority of her time on the
traffic study as she thought that would be the topic of tonight's discussion.
Commissioner Ashley noted that we should give the opportunity for
Commissioner Kranzley and the public to review and comment at the next
meeting.
Chairperson Selich noted that he would like to start the discussion, as it would
be beneficial for the consultant to give an overview of the subject and to
make as much progress as possible. It will be a continuing item of discussion.
Commissioner Ashley asked staff to explain the raised intersection at Bayside
• Drive and Bayside Village entrance that will slow traffic and increase
pedestrian safety.
Mr. Alford noted that the raised intersection is essentially a speed bump across
the entire intersection. The idea is to create more visibility for pedestrians
crossing the road and has the effect of slowing traffic as it comes across it. This
could be enhanced by providing additional paving treatments, which have
been shown to slow down traffic to a certain extent. Also some concrete or
similar constructed bollards along each corner of the intersection could
provide additional pedestrian safety. The main goal is to provide increased
safety for the pedestrian and to slow down traffic at that intersection. The
raised intersection is a good alternative, as it does not have the stacking
problems that could occur with the proposed gate -house with the associated
impacts on air quality and noise.
Commissioner Ashley then noted that in the Traffic Study it is proposed by the
consultant to have a 4 way stop sign there. Would this be eliminated with the
speed bumps at the intersection?
Mr. Rich Edmonton answered that was the original recommendation for that
intersection and it has stayed in the report even in light of the proposed gated
entrance. The advantage of the raised intersection is that with a stop sign it
would require traffic to stop and start causing additional noise and air
pollution. The speed bump would require a gentler flowing and hopefully
acceleration away from it. If the raised intersection proved to be inadequate,
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it would be relatively easy: to add stop signs to it at a later date. The design
with the bollards can create a more confined feeling and make it more
obvious to the motorists that there is an intersection. If you come along
Bayside Drive,. prior. to the intersection it would ramp up and the whole
intersection will be raised and the crosswalks will be on that raised portion. The
concept is to include at least one crosswalk on Bayside at that location. The
ramping up will be severe enough that drivers will want to slow down and it
highlights the point where the intersection is. Pedestrian crossing warning signs
can also be provided at that location. There is a pedestrian tunnel that goes
under the road at that some location for people who might not want to use
the cross walk. The crossing distance is also narrowed. The closest example of
this type of crossing is in the Bayshores Community. It is not an entire
intersection, but it ramps up, levels and then ramps down.
Chairperson Selich asked for and received clarification from staff about the
Settlement Agreement:
• Is it true that under the Settlement Agreement a set of plans for 275 -room
project as outlined met all the criteria in that Settlement Agreement,
would they be able to file plans with the Building Department and not
have to go through any discretionary approval? - True, Ms. Clauson
answered. The City has always considered the Settlement Agreement to
be all the authorization that is needed.
• In the Settlement Agreement, there is an illustrated site plan as an exhibit.
It is my understanding that is just an illustrative site plan. As long as they
meet all the criteria in terms of the number of rooms and the square
footage, etc. from where the existing recreational vehicle area ends all
the way to the Marina bulkhead, that they can come in and create any
type of design they want. As long as it meets the Uniform Building and
Safety Codes and other City ordinances, the applicant can file that plan
with the City for approval without any type of review. Ms. Clauson
answered that the agreement does have some limiting language to it, the
placement points on the exhibit are illustrative only and are not limiting.
• If they had no need for discretionary approval from the City to do any
project at all, there is no additional environmental review required? Ms.
Clauson answered, you are correct.
• If there was no environmental review, we would have no ability to
condition the project for noise impact, lighting and traffic impacts? Ms.
Clauson answered yes, that is true.
Commissioner Gifford asked if this was a real possibility? Her understanding
has been that because of the change in economic conditions, that type of
project would no longer be financially feasible.
Chairperson Selich answered that he was affirming the baseline that the
project is being compared to. The review that Commissioner Tucker went
through with Ms. Clauson on the Settlement Agreement I wanted to make sure
that it met with the provisions of the Zoning Code, which says that if a project
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of this nature was done, you would still have to get a Use Permit. I was under
the impression that in meeting the criteria of the Settlement Agreement, they
would have to get a Use Permit, which would allow the Planning Commission
to put conditions on. it. Since the last meeting, I found out that my
understanding on that was incorrect. The financial feasibility relates to the
applicant rather than to the project.
Commissioner Tucker stated that his understanding is when you go through
litigation, you negotiate a settlement. You do not allow the party on the other
side with whom you have settled to then have the ability to deny what was
agreed to when you went though the effort to come up with the settlement.
We have more control over the design of this project because changes to the
Settlement Agreement are being requested. A project built under The
Settlement Agreement could be almost anything.
Public comment was opened.
Robert Gleason, Newport Dunes, 101 North Boyside Drive addressed the
Commission noting the accuracy of the visual simulations. We have gone
through these results and the credibility of the firm that has produced these
visual images; methodology and technology have never been challenged or
• proven incorrect. Issues that we have had with the visual simulations have
had to do with plans, which is why we have gone through very carefully over
the last three weeks. We have remodeled the project, and re- positioned all
the points to assure the accuracy. The overall result of that is that the photo
simulations are accurate and in fact they are slightly lower than the ones you
have seen before because the pad was a little bit too high. He then
proceeded to present slides on the updated simulations of the new model
from the points at which they have been taken for the EIR.
Mr. Gleason then presented a comparison of hotel room counts. The number
being used for the Marriott Suites at the Back Bay is 250 rooms as opposed to
the Marriott in Newport Center, at 570 rooms. He then presented a slide
detailing the square footage reductions which ranged:
• Hotel - original square footage 500,000, revised square footage is 438,000
• Timeshare - original square footage 200,000, revised square footage is
160,000
• Total original square footage of 700,000 is now proposed to be 598.000.
The presentation proceeded to show site plan alternatives versus the original
plan.
Height marker plan (balloons):
• Tool - to use with the visual simulations to get a better idea on the height
and scale of the project and verification of accuracy.
• 23 marker points were set out which marked each of the building
extremities as well as every single level of each building wing.
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• Those points were then charted and located by a licensed civil engineer
and a dimension was given that would represent the finished height of the
structure.
• A new set of visual simulations -was then created from those some points
-showing the exact balloon. locations and colors with the project model
ghosted on top. Red represents 2 story elements, green represents the 3
story elements, yellow represents the 4 story elements and blue represents
5 story elements.
• Conducted on -site media briefing, press release and coverage in the
Register and the Daily Pilot, KNX Radio and OCN as well as in the LITE.
Additionally, this information has been available on the web site. Since
Friday night, there have been about 225 to 250 hits in that area.
• Balloons themselves are great advertising. They are larger and more
colorful and we have received numerous calls both pro and con.
• Field report and photographs verify the accuracy and overall scale of the
project.
• Balloons will continue to fly through Sunday, March 12th.
• We are willing to certify that the project, upon completion, will match the
visual simulations that have been presented as part of the precise plan.
Conference facility uses:
• • Functions during the year as a way to sell guest rooms.
• Most of the use is by hotel guests.
• Catering refers to anything generated from off site business; weddings,
seminars and /or day meetings.
• When guestrooms and the conference center are occupied by different
groups then there is a potential for conflicts particularly during the summer
time.
• Resources are managed carefully to serve all segments of the business.
• We have updated these numbers for the 1999 summer period because of
the concern that there was not recent enough information and the
Commission has asked for peak day use.
• Referencing the charts, he noted Saturdays with a 600 -620 person range
from May 1 through Labor Day 1999.
• There are two main ballrooms and a junior ballroom. The main ballroom
for a plated dinner /dance nets 575 people. The junior ballroom for a
plated dinner /dance nets 290 people, which works out to about 1 person
for every 20 square feet.
Conference impacts:
• Traffic - functions take place principally between two times, 12 noon to 5
p.m. or from 6:30 p.m. on. The time in between is used to set up for a
different function if two are happening in a room on the some day.
• PCH peak hour traffic on the weekends basically occurs between about 3
and 4 p.m. using actual city counts on Saturdays and Sundays in August.
Bayside Drive both north and south are impacted and PCH towards Dover
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and Jamboree.
• Arrival times for group functions are not generally occurring during these
peak times. (referencing slide presentation)
• Parking - Traffic Study was revised to incorporate the new numbers that
are larger than the numbers shown. previously. The project still has ample
parking even if the worst case should happen due to an increase of
spaces that occurred during the downsizing of the overall project.
• We are proposing the following condition on the conference center
space: Catering business May 1 through Labor Day, Friday evening
through Sunday, maximum number of guests would be 1,750. (less than 1
person for every 20 square feet)
• An additional condition to smooth out the arrival and departure traffic
would be that no more than one half of the maximum number of guests
may arrive within half an hour of each other; and, no more than a quarter
of the maximum number of guests may arrive /depart during peak hour (3-
4 p.m.).
• The minimum turn time in any room is one and one half- hours.
• Enforcement of these proposed conditions could be required as part of
the annual report under the Development Agreement and the Use Permit
provisions of the Municipal Code.
• Administration - City Manager waiver (maximum 6 times per year) and the
• ability to petition for modification based on operating history and actual
statistics.
Commissioner Fuller asked about:
Conference Center use for catering functions will be lower for the summer
months than other periods of the year - Mr. Gleason answered that the idea is
that the overall occupancy of the conference center during the summer
periods is less than during the other nine months of the year. During those
periods, that use is largely if not entirely group related business, i.e., staying at
the hotel or other hotels and being bussed to the property. Although the
actual number of occupancy may be higher in the winter time, it is the
conflict that is created by off -site catering business coming to the project and
leisure business not associated with that catering business that requires the
lower use of conference facilities in the summer. The off -site catering business
during the summer is substantially more.
Commissioner Ashley noted that the first level will be 10 feet high and that the
succeeding levels 2 -5 will be 9 feet 6 inches high. Levels 2 -5 represents 38 1/2
feet height, he then asked about the Settlement Agreement that permits a
building not to exceed 38 1/2 feet high. Is that from present grade which is at
12 feet or is that at sea level which is 12 feet below? Exclusive of the towers,
you are asking for about 10 feet more height than the Settlement Agreement
entitles.
Mr. Gleason answered that it is not specifically set forth in the Settlement
Agreement. The 38 1/2 feet is from grade, but grade is not defined as either
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existing grade or an artificial grade. The Municipal Code allows the
establishment of that grade but that was not done in this case. The
presumption would be from the center of the plot of ground on which we
would be building upon. That center point is somewhere between 12 and 15
feet high which would make it 50 feet high from mean sea level. Depending
on how the roofs over that are, which could make it 6, 8 or 10 feet.
Commissioner Tucker talked about the floor plates. He stated that the four
feet being gained was not worth reducing the grandeur of the structure. Is
the Dunes set on this 10 foot, 9 1/2 or are the 12, 10 foot floor plates still a
possibility? I think that you don't want to have a structure that is not
competitive and does not have the same feel as other facilities in other
locations.
Mr. Gleason answered that when we re- evaluated everything associated with
height in the project it was with the idea that what we would propose would
be something that works for us in addition to reducing the height. We like to
ask for 10 feet as 9 feet does not work for us but 9 1/2 does work. As far as 10
feet on the first floor then 9 1/2, the public areas of the hotel are each two
levels in height. The loss in those areas is not significant enough from an
architectural stand point. We have presented the revised plans and height
. markers based on these calculations and compressed floor plates.
Chairperson Selich asked for a recap on the square footage of the Settlement
Agreement.
Mr. Gleason answered that the Settlement Agreement allows as the overall
project:
• 500,000 square feet family inn portion
• 15,000 square feet freestanding restaurant (net public area) with a load
factor for back of house may be as much as 20,000 to 25,000 gross square
feet.
5,000 square feet of office and commercial space
• Total for all those uses would be about 530,000 square feet beyond the
existing uses.
• 598,000 square feet is proposed now.
• At the time this Agreement was negotiated it was done without a hard
plan. When the City challenged the EIR and they got into discussions, it
was more of a general bubble diagram land use planning discussion. The
plan that everyone has seen that was in the EIR was the plan that was
eventually approved under the Coastal Development Permit by the
Coastal Commission in 1984. This was done subsequent to the Settlement
Agreement negotiations and executions. That plan encompassed
approximately 300,000 square feet.
Conference Center operational conditions:
• Maximum occupancy of 1750 applies specifically to offsite catering.
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1750 maximum guests would represent use of all the rooms which
represents 1 person for every 20 square feet.
Commissioner Kiser asked about the square footage reductions. The net
598.000 total proposed square footage includes all of the retail, restaurant and
health club. Mr. Gleason confirmed that includes everything and could be
used to compare to the 500,000 square toot family inn portion only.
Public comment was closed.
Discussion by the Planning Commission on the proposed design changes:
Commissioner Tucker - The applicant has attempted to address a lot of the
concerns. My biggest concern with this project was it fitting on the site and is
still a significant facility. As compared to what the Settlement Agreement
allows for and the complete lack of control on the quality of anything that
would be built under the Settlement Agreement, overall the design features
look good. We need to move on and talk about specific issues that people
have raised to see it if stands up to the scrutiny that is required of us under the
CEQA guidelines.
Commissioner Kranzley - had visited the site three times and has yet to see the
• balloons in their full glory. Before I make any comments I would like to see
them and hope that the applicant takes into consideration keeping the
balloons if we continue to have inclement weather. The Planning Commission
needs to spend time on the height and bulk issues of the buildings.
Commissioner Gifford - Important to preserve the good look and architectural
feel of what goes in there. I also need more time to look at the balloons, as I
have not seen them in good weather.
Commissioner Ashley - The design and impact concerns of the hotel in this
fragile environment have been largely addressed by the applicant with the
reduction of height. The building was probably a little more imposing than I
originally thought it would be after looking at the balloons. If we proposed
that they eliminate the fifth level which contains only 18 rooms to reduce the
height of the building by 9 1/2 feet it would not make a big visual impact.
Without this fifth level. the building would be flat and look monolithic.
Commissioner Kiser - Congratulated the applicant on his handling of the
Commission's concerns. He noted that he had seen the balloons when there
was no wind and was able to view them from several viewpoints. The view to
the Back Bay should remain the dominant feature of that area. The project as
proposed is pretty close to allow those general views to remain dominant, but
expressed concerns with the very highest parts of the structures. The balloon
representation still needs work, and I would like to explore the possibility of
removing the very top features down to allow the view of the Castaways Bluff
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from Coast Highway and Jamboree and view towards Morning Star area out
into the Back Bay to remain the dominant features.
Commissioner Fuller stated that his concerns of view impairment have been
satisfied in the depictions that have been made. This is a big project and
progress has been made. Parking is sufficient with a shuttle system if it is
needed. I am concerned with the light and noise issues but the applicant has
made a satisfactory effort in that area. The access for the service, employees
and trucks from Back Bay Drive is a plus that the applicant has provided. I am
still concerned with the intersection of Bayside Drive and Coast Highway; I
support the changes that have been made so far.
Chairperson Selich noted that there has been real progress on the design.
Particularly likes the fact that the timeshares were reduced along the Marina
bulkhead area as that allows for more graceful height transition from the
water line up to the hotel. The removal of the area in the center of the 5+h
story element and then to each side of the element the way the height was
excised through the reduction of the rooms as well as changing the roof
planes made a big -difference. I am still concerned with the parking structure,
as I feel it should be reduced in height so that one story could be completely
below grade thereby reducing the amount above grade. I realize there
would be a transition problem where you would enter into the hotel, but it
• could be dealt with in some manner. A lot of progress has been made. The
absolute heights in the fifth story elements do not bother me because it is such
a small percentage of the project. I think we need some vertical relief since it
is such a large project and is spread out. I agree with comments on the floor
plate heights. On something of the quality we expect of a facility of this type,
that to reduce the height by three or four feet by short changing each floor
plate height is a mistake in the long run.
Commissioner Tucker noted the roof plan of the timeshares on page 9A. They
are not all two stories, some are three stories.
The effectiveness of the balloons
Commissioner Gifford asked to defer any decisions on the balloons since the
conditions have not been favorable.
Commissioner Kranzley asked to defer his comments on the effectiveness of
the balloons until more reasonable weather conditions occur.
Revised Traffic Study
Mr. Rich Edmonston stated that the revised study is an updated version based
on the changes the applicant indicated at the last meeting on the hotel and
timeshares. It includes the revised access for employees and deliveries and
correctly depicts the reduction of traffic associated with the RV park space
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reduction as being on Back Bay not on Bayside Drive. Table 5 is now Table 6
and is substantially revised in an .attempt to make it clearer which trips are
associated.Wth the proposed hotel and which trips are deducted from either
the removal of the RV spaces and/or the removal of the other uses permitted
under the Settlement Agreement. The results are that in the short range TPO
analysis, all intersections satisfy the TPO operating at a Level of Service (LOS) D
or better. In the long range, there are identified two intersections that were
made worse by the project and did not meet the City's criteria, that was
Bayside at Coast Highway and Jamboree at Ford. The recently completed
free right turn lane from East Bluff onto Jamboree mitigates that intersection so
that even with the project, it operates at LOS D in both the morning and
afternoon peak periods. At the intersection of Jamboree and Bayside, the
applicant has proposed improvements to Bayside and those mitigate the
impact at that location.
The parking section analyzed two scenarios depending on whether it was
parked based on a 470 -room hotel or. a 370 -room hotel plus 100 timeshare
units. Both those cases on a typical day based on occupancy show
approximately 300 spaces total on site that would be above and beyond the
required uses. The maximum use scenario with all hotel rooms full, the Marina
in business and all ballroom and meeting room spaces occupied by non-
visitors to the hotel, the surplus dropped to about 50 spaces. There have been
a. number of changes made to the study in order to make it clearer to read
and user friendly.
Chairperson Selich asked for a re-cop on the whole project traffic generated
by area by use.
Mr. Edmonston answered that in the Settlement Agreement dated 1988, the
remaining uses that were entitled were the 275 room family inn, a 15,000
square foot net public area restaurant and a 5,000 square foot building that
was marine - related commercial. Those are tabulated in the new Table 6. The
applicant has indicated they will not be building the free standing restaurant,
not building the marina commercial 5,000 square feet and he would be
building what has been analyzed as a 470 room hotel in place of the 275 room
family inn. Table 6 indicates on that basis, the total trip generation will be a
net reduction on a daily basis of 390 trips from what was approved under the
Settlement Agreement. The Table shows that in the morning peak hours there
would be 60 more trips generated by the proposed project and in the
afternoon there would be an actual net decrease in trips of 18.
The Settlement Agreement dealt with new uses after 1988.
The factor for trip generated by uses in the whole project is in the traffic
model by zone. It is a little difficult to separate; for example, on the east
side of the lagoon the same traffic zone includes the Hyatt, and on the
other side includes the mobile home park. There is a variety of other things
in it, but we have rates for the hotel, rates for resort commercial, rates for
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the Newport Dunes which is the beach area based on an acreage basis;
and rates for the general office as well. Rates on the west side are for the
marine and restaurant and those types of uses. They are all included in the
model.
• Those rates were based on ITE: standards or they were rates discussed in
some traffic studies done at the time of the Settlement Agreement that
looked at some of the uses such as the marine expansion discussed in
earlier versions of the Settlement Agreement between 1983 and 1988.
• The development was permitted through a series of agreements. There
was a 1983 version that allowed for some additional slips in the marina and
had rates associated with it in 1983. But by 1988 those had been
developed and were therefor no longer part of that Agreement because
at that point they were existing. For traffic counting purposes we would
have used the trip rates that had been reviewed and approved in the
past for those uses.
Chairperson Selich stated that he is trying to ascertain if a constant in the
traffic model was used throughout the years, or whether it has been floating
up and down when we did the traffic models for the rest of the property either
based on changing the trip generations used with different. trip rates or using
actual counts versus trip rates.
Ms. Temple answered that we can take out the non -Dunes related uses in the
two traffic model zones involved and perhaps go back as far as the 1988
model used for the General Plan update and give you what the various
iterations have been.
Mr. Edmonston agreed that could be done. There will be a 1988 model, 1992
model and then the 1996 model that is presently being used for this project.
Chairperson Selich noted that he still has problems with Table 6. The numbers
for the previously approved uses to be deleted and the numbers in the
Settlement Agreement. It doesn't make sense that a 275 -room hotel with a
15,000 square feet of restaurant is going to generate close to the same
amount of trips as this size project that we are considering. I would like
comments on how realistic these numbers are, do you really believe that if
they were to build a 275 room hotel add another 5,000 square feet of
commercial and do 15,000 square feet of net public area restaurant that it
would generate the same amount of trips as this proposed project?
Mr. Edmonston answered that the one item that is certainly questionable is in
the traffic study done in conjunction with the Settlement Agreement that
assumed a trip rate for the family inn as 8.7 trips per day per room. That was
an extremely conservative rate and was the rate that was in the ITE at the
time for a regular hotel. There probably wasn't any reason to challenge it then
because it would represent a worst case condition upon which the Dunes
would pay traffic fees. I don't think that anybody else would have challenged
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it as being an overly conservative rate. In looking at the information we have,
the current rate of 8.92 per room is appropriate for a facility of this type. The
difference would probably be greater between this and what is in the
Settlement Agreement, primarily the Settlement Agreement in my opinion
would overstate the amount of traffic that would actually occur from a family
inn.
Commissioner Kiser asked about Table 1.
• The trip rate per hotel of 8.92 that has been used, is it consistent in the
traffic analysis? Mr. Edmonston answered yes.
• The daily trip rate resort hotel per room is not available. I was confused by
the note that says the hotel rates were utilized in this study due to the fact
that these rates were higher than those shown for 'resort hotel'. Is there a
resort hotel rate? Mr. Edmonton answered that to the right of the table
there are trip generation rates for both the hotel and resort hotel for a.m.
and p.m. peak hours. That is the data that is most often collected when
traffic studies are being made because that data is most critical in
analyzing the impacts of the hotels. There is some data available on the
peak hour basis and later in the report there is a table footnoted when
talking about total traffic. There is no documented daily number for the
resort hotel category.
• • On that same table it shows the timeshare units of 100 dwelling units. Is
that from the ITE standards? Mr. Pringle answered that the trip generation
rates for the timeshares refers back up to the recreational homes and yes,
it is from ITE. In the analysis, we used that actual hotel rate, which is higher,
for the timeshares as well. We have used a conservative approach to this.
We felt it would be a better approach to use the hotel rates for the
timeshares, as the timeshares are more like a hotel.
Commissioner Ashley asked:
• Table 1 referring to the timeshare units, the daily trip generation for the
dwelling units is shown as 300 which means that each dwelling unit would
be 3 trips per day. Mr. Pringle answered yes and applied hotel rates for the
timeshare units and estimated the traffic on that basis for the study. This
table is in here for information and background for what we were
analyzing for this particular study. We used the worst case analysis.
Chairperson Selich asked why no traffic was being distributed on Bayside Drive
at the intersection of Coast Highway. Basically the answer was that the traffic
was not broken down less than 5% distribution increments in the traffic
modeling. Coast Highway was considered a parallel route. Would you
address this again, why no traffic was distributed going from Bayside Drive
down to Jamboree Road from the project? If, you did not address it, how can
you now identify that there is an impact at Bayside and Jamboree when the
traffic model in the report does not show traffic being distributed? What are
the mitigation measures at that intersection?
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Mr. Edmonston answered that there are two distinct traffic analysis in the
report. The TPO is a short-term analysis that follows the City's Traffic Phasing
Ordinance. The historical application is to keep as much traffic from a project
on the major highways in the City as possible to represent a worst case
analysis. Since traffic going straight across Coast Highway on Bayside would
then no longer be on a major arterial, we did not distribute that. If you then
look at the long range analysis which is done with the model and look at the
sheets in the Appendix, the model does send traffic across there because the
model has the entire locations of streets and land uses in it. In the long range,
the study does show traffic on Bayside Drive. In terms of mitigation, the two
intersections are Bayside and Coast Highway, which is where the applicant is
going to widen and provide an additional lone on Bayside coming from the
project. This would mitigate the ICU at that intersection in the long range;
there is no impact at Bayside and Jamboree from the project.
Chairperson Selich commented that what you are saying is that in the TPO
analysis we overstate the traffic on Coast Highway but we understate it on
Bayside Drive because we are throwing all the traffic on Coast Highway. In
the long -range model, we make a more realistic distribution of what is going
on Coast Highway and Bayside Drive. Mr. Edmonston answered yes.
• Chairperson Selich then asked with the reduction of the size of the hotel
facility and.the fact that you are now counting the RV trips going on Bayside
Drive and the employee and delivery traffic is now coming off Back Bay Drive,
what is the net effect of traffic on Bayside Drive in this version of the traffic
report versus the previous version?
Mr. Edmonston answered that the long -range analysis shows that in the a.m.
peak period there are 60 additional cars coming out of the Dunes project in
the morning. In the short-range ICU analysis it shows an increase of 55 vehicles
coming out in the morning and in the afternoon it is an increase of only 17
vehicles coming out, going in there are 32 vehicles in the morning and 20 in
the afternoon. Again, these factor in the approved project of 275 -room hotel
and the restaurant and retail building. These numbers are net over the
baseline. Looking at the model data between the two studies, there is a
reduction in the morning coming out of 20 trips, coming out in the afternoon
there is a reduction of 20 trips from the impact of the project. At the
completion of the Dunes Project, taking into consideration the trips generated
by the project, employee and delivery, and the reduction for the RV spaces
being removed, there will be an increase of 3,520 daily trips on Bayside Drive
and an increase of 80 daily trips on Back Bay Drive.
Commissioner Tucker asked for computations assuming different occupancy
rates. Referencing Table 2 he noted that with 9 trips per room with 470 rooms
the total trip generation is 4,230. That is the numerator that needs to stay
constant for each one of the occupancies. I am trying to compare the
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difference between the approach we take that assumes 100% occupancy as
compared to what the trips per room would be as per occupied room.
Numerically with 95% occupancy, that would mean 447 rooms were occupied
divided into 4,230.is 9.46 trips per room. With 90% occupancy it would be the
same as having 423 rooms occupied with 4,230 trips and is 10 trips per room. I
am attempting to have a table that reflects what the trip generation rate
would be had we done it on the some basis as many other jurisdictions. We
are going to do it on the assumption that 100% of the rooms are occupied.
Wes Pringle, traffic engineer clarified that all the studies are done for occupied
rooms. All studies are done on the maximum number of rooms. If a hotel that
had 500 rooms and only 200 rooms were occupied you would assume that
was applicable to all 500 room hotels and would not work. The trip generation
for an office building is done the same way, assuming 10017o occupancy. The
same methodology is used at worst case with 100% occupancy here.
Commissioner Tucker continued that there should be some type of accounting
as to what has happened between the Settlement Agreement and now in
terms of trips that have been used. The Defend the Bay letter of January 28th is
one that we need to go through and understand the contentions in that letter
as either on or off base.
• Recess was taken.
Public comment was opened.
Dan Purcell, 600 Acacia Avenue stated he observed the balloons after
reading the article in the Daily Pilot. He felt he was able to get a good feel
about the expanse of the project but he was concerned with the
representation in the Daily Pilot. He stated that it was not a fair representation
of the project.
Barbara Lichman, 2603 Main Street - as an attorney representing the Dover
Shores Community Association stated that it is difficult to comment on
documents that the public has not been provided. There is a revised plan on
the height and bulk of the plan, but the public does not have it in writing.
There is a revised traffic study that may have new information that ought to be
circulated under CEQA but the public does not have it and we are asked to
make comments on it tonight. I understand we will have future opportunities
but we have been here for three hours. There is no certified EIR for this project
all we have is a draft EIR. We have a Settlement Agreement but we do not
have a vested right for the 275 -unit inn under that Settlement Agreement.
Section VII page 20 of the original Settlement Agreement states, "All parties
understand that this Agreement is intended to establish limits on development
and not guarantee construction or development'. Vested right is a guarantee
of development right. This Settlement Agreement specifically abrogated the
vesting of rights under it. Therefore, if the 275 -unit project were built, this
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Commission would have the right to make changes. Normal vesting rights
accrue where there is permit, environmental documentation and when there
is ground broken. I don't think this process is proceeding in a way that gives
the public adequate opportunity to comment on these issues. We are looking
forward to another opportunity on the traffic study, height and bulk and
vesting.
Commissioner Tucker commented that the language could be interpreted as
that the developer did not guarantee they would build the project, not that
the City did not guarantee that the project could be built.
William F. Smith, 405 Morning Star Lane - expressed his concern with sound.
Whenever there is a loud party across the way, he is saved by the curfew of
10:00 p.m. I am concerned about the noise levels and hope that testing will
be done. We hear it now, and it will be increased with the timeshares in
place.
Jay Simon, 1417 Newporter Way questions the overall heights. He asked what
the total height of the project would be with the roof structure? Regarding
the balloons, is the length of the balloon to the top of the roof structure?
Ms. Temple answered that the balloons depicted the total overall roof height
• of the project as modified by the applicant at the last meeting.
Bob Bartholomew, 31 Cape Andover spoke of the beautiful area and views. I
believe the area needs to be improved and the Planning Commission makes
decisions as to what is economic for the City. A project of this type and size
concerns me with regard to height, lighting, noise from outdoor parties and
traffic. Is this project going to be economically viable and what would be an
alternative use to the facility if it doesn't work out?
Vahe Meghrouni, 61 Cape Andover agreed with the previous speakers with
regard to noise and light adding he was dismayed at the length of the
project. You are supposed to protect our rights. If we happen to be
uninformed or cannot be informed because we are not given the data, you
are supposed to protect our rights.
Pat Greenbaum, Bayside Village asked the following:
• Can the delivery access road accommodate all sizes and weights of the
commercial vehicles?
• Should the access road to the truck dock be limited to weight and size of
commercial vehicles such as diesel type?
• Would this facility accommodate trade shows, which bring in set up and
tear down equipment and supplies?
Perhaps the answers to these questions could be included in the revised traffic
study and traffic potential of the conference facilities, namely delivery trips.
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Bill Kenney, 824 Harbor 'Island Drive representing the Promontory Bay
Homeowners Association stated that in an effort to work with the developer
they met with them as well as a coalition of communities south of Coast
Highway. Representatives of Bay Shores, Linda Island, Beacon Bay, Balboa
Island, Little Balboa Island and Promontory Bay attended the meeting. Our
main concern is traffic generated by the hotel and convention facility and
where the traffic would be channeled. During the meeting we came up with
two altematives:
• Relocate the project entrance to Pacific Coast Highway at the signalized
entrance to Promontory Point. It is physically possible and will provide a
significant entrance statement.
• Relocate the project entrance to Back Bay Drive and create a vehicular
bridge over the lagoon in a location where the pedestrian bridge is
currently located. This would save all of the RV spaces.
To date, the project developer has not given due consideration but we hope
they will. We ask you this evening to think about how the relocation of the
project entrance either to Coast Highway or Back Bay Drive might address
many of the concerns of the citizens about this project. We hope you will
direct the applicant to relocate the entrance. With direction from you and
participation and diligence on behalf of the applicant and these communities
• than our concerns can be overcome and we will then be in a position to be in
favor of this project at a future hearing.
Larry Dill, 300 East Coast Highway, #260 spoke in favor of this project. He said
the facility is safe, clean and crime free. The new project will enhance the
area.
Ramona Harris, 300 East Coast Highway, #222 gave a personal history of the
immediate area and the City in general.
Max Hampton, 721 Bayside Drive noted his appreciation of the work done on
the traffic studies and models used to forecast what will happen. He stated
that those intersections are problematic now and that it makes no sense that
you can put 470 rooms and 1,750 people in a convention facility and have no
impact. There has been no discussion as to what happens about the parties
on beaches or parties outside in addition to the 1750 people who can be in
the convention facility. The developer took this property under the limitation
of 275 rooms with no convention facility. Anything that goes beyond that is a
gift from you to them. We need to do something to keep the traffic off
Bayside. Please, either cut out the convention facility or at least drastically
reduce it and do something to limit functions outdoors and on beaches and
keep traffic off Bayside Drive.
Bob Bolen, 265 Mayflower Street stated that the balloons were a great help.
The parking garage is behind my place and looks to be 33 feet high. It
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eliminates our views of Fashion Island and Saddleback Mountain.
Joyce Lawhorn, 300 East Coast Highway #265 stated that the impact of the
garage structure is behind her. With the 80 -foot setback, the three levels of
the parking structure will house 308 vehicles. There will be a bike trail and
landscape area and a 9 -foot wall with 101 parking spaces behind us. The
loading docks have been turned to face the remaining RV park.
Steven Briggs, 1016 Westwind Way stated that the 1988 agreement points out
that the Dunes has contractual vested rights to construct this 275 unit project.
They have those vested rights because the other parties to the agreement
gave up or were given something. They were given the opportunity to rely for
a decade and a half on the expectation that project would be built. Those
expectations that the City and County preserved for its citizens and residents
are not being preserved at the point this project is approved in its increased
size. I viewed the balloons and certainly demonstrate to a small degree the
height issues. They don't demonstrate at all volume or bulk. I would suggest
that you need to view the balloons from various locations completely around
the project. There are 32 houses on the Castaways effected directly by this.
There is three times that many just in Dover Shores on the west side of the
project alone. This project is much bigger than depicted and the balloons are
an inadequate way to demonstrate the volume and densffy of the project.
• Bob Rimmer, Bayside Village, #282 expressed his concern about the health of
the residents of Bayside Village if this project goes through. The location of the
hotel and entrance of the hotel are of primary concern. He noted gas fumes,
noise and traffic problems with this project. Our way of life will be drastically
changed with the added traffic on Coast Highway.
Dan Converse, 509 Morning Star Lane noted his concern of noise and size of
project noting similar reasons previously stated.
James Sachtschale, 1953 Vista Caudal speaking for Mr. Ohlig stating that his
method is correct on the graphics that he presented. Mr. Sachtschale stated
that his technical education was from the University of Illinois where he studied
gas dynamics. He affirmed Mr. Ohlig's methodology.
Debbie Hartunion, 911 Spring Tide Drive stated that she purchased a premium
lot and was told that the project as approved was going to be two to three
stories high. If this project is going to be five stories, the light and glare will be
shining into my bedroom. I get noise from the Dunes and the Hyatt now that I
never thought I would get. I have had to call the police on several occasions.
I notice from the drawings, that the ballrooms face the water. I know the
Dunes has tried very hard to accommodate the Planning Commission, but I
think it is because they are asking for more than what was granted. I look at it
as a citizen of Newport Beach and what I have to lose which is the quality of
life for the City and the Back Bay.
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Bert Ohlig, 305 Morning Star Lane - expressed his seriousness of the issues of the
views. He noted that the revised views are wrong:
• A distance point on one side is taller.
• Vanishing point is going into the center of the image even though the
shape would not prompt that.
• The four story image has been crunched to three stories
• Items on both sides of the image are not equal and distant
The balloons are supposed to be 77.5 and at the angle should be pretty close
to level. There was not enough advance notice as to when the balloons were
going to be put in place. This project is 1.7 times the height, and rooms, and
20 decibels different from the last numbers I saw. This is way above the original
agreement.
Bill Hamilton, 3620 5th Avenue spoke in favor of the project stating that it will be
good for the City of Newport Beach. Traffic is my biggest concern, but not
that bad. By trimming back the project size, the applicant has attempted to
mitigate the bulk problem. The Evans people are good people and will do.a
marvelous job with this project.
. Nancy Skinner, 1724 Highland Drive stated that the Dunes site is public
property, on Coastal land in an environmentally sensitive area surrounded by
residences. It is being leased to a concessionaire. The Settlement Agreement
was hard fought and the homeowners depended upon the guarantees. It is
important that the City consider commitment to the residents in that area.
The Settlement Agreement is a commitment to the residents in this community.
Sections from the various Settlement Agreements stated that no structure shall
exceed the basic 35 -foot height limit established by Zoning Ordinance.
Additionally, no structure or any portion of the structure shall exceed a height
of 38.5 feet. Mechanical equipment may be permitted in excess of the basic
35 -foot height limit providing that the equipment does not exceed a height of
38.5 feet and is fully screened from public view. It goes on to say that no
structure shall exceed 3 stories and the family inn shall be constructed with a
pitched roof. There are descriptions in the agreement and it allows exceptions
for chimneys. It is the height limitation that should be adhered to as well as
the noise limitation. I have no fear that the Evans family would do a wonderful
job with a 275 -room hotel.
Kathy Leek, 623 Baywood Drive as a supporter of the tourism in Newport
Beach stated that there is a need for the hotel and a need for conference
space. She stated that she recognizes that counting cars is important, but
from her perspective of calling on the various hotels throughout the area and
bringing people into the community shows a different point of view.
Elaine Linhoff, 1760 East Ocean Boulevard asked about the looks of the
parking structure by the main entrance to the hotel. She then mentioned the
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glare from the parked cars reflecting up onto the Castaways. On the traffic
study figure used between the 275 -room hotel and the proposal, the
difference figure is what I am concerned about. That figure is used and I don't
think it is right. Even with the reduction, the number still comes out for greater
than 800. That will throw off all the numbers in the study. The responses to the
EIR were totally inadequate. For example, the intersection at PCH and
Superior /Balboa, we questioned how that could be lowered with the project.
The answer was that some traffic that formerly went to other hotels would
switch to the new hotel, which then in turn leads to reduction in traffic on
certain roadways. That is not an answer to that question.
Dr. Jennifer Frutig, 1715 Marlin Way stated she would like to see an accurate
representation of the revised project. I object to the distortions and the
pictures that were shown in terms of the view from the east lagoon and also
from the Castaways. I have no idea what the revised project from either one
of those locations is. I wish they would please give us an accurate
representation.
Richard Luehrs, CEO of the Newport Chamber of Commerce commented that
the Chamber continues to review this project. They have done a fine job in
reducing the size and bulk, they have met the traffic constraints and
mitigation measures by reducing the number of rooms. This project adds more
• than a million dollars each year to the coffers of the City of Newport Beach
that could go toward future traffic mitigation. This project continues to raise
twenty -five million dollars to the small business of Newport Beach. Projects like
this go towards ensuring the health and welfare of our financial picture now
and well into the future. I ask that you give favorable attention to this project.
Commissioner Kranzley thanked Mr. Ohlig for his efforts and asked him if the
Planning Commission conditioned this project that it has to comply and look
exactly like the views that are presented how would he feel about that? Or,
are you more concerned about the fact that they are misrepresenting or
would you be okay with the hotel they are representing in their pictures.
Mr. Ohlig answered that he is operating in two ways. From a personal interest
as a homeowner adjacent to the property that measures 50% of view is
dominated by this project. I am acting as a citizen that just loves the bay,
which is why I am making views from other vantage points. I still believe that
this is a massive structure. It looks nice with the plants, etc the way it has been
done, but I am not comfortable with what I am seeing. I know there are
certain angles that it looks reasonable at, but I still believe it is massive and
dangerous the way it is being done. When I look at the balloons, they are not
where I imagine them to be based on the topographical maps I have studied.
Commissioner Kranzley confirmed with Mr. Ohlig that his answer was no, he
would not accept the project conditioned to comply to look exactly like the
views presented this evening.
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Public comment was closed.
Chairperson Selich told the audience that they were welcome to submit to
staff in writing anything they felt they did not say tonight. We will review it prior
to the next meeting. He suggested that a subcommittee of the Planning
Commission review the Development Agreement and report back. He
suggested Commissioners Tucker and Kiser. There were no objections.
Motion was made by Commissioner Kranzley to continue this item to March 23,
2000.
Ayes: Fuller, Kiser, Ashley, Selich, Gifford, Kranzley, Tucker
Noes: None
Absent: None
StM
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS:
a.) City Council Follow -up - Assistant City Manager Sharon Wood reported
that at the meeting of February 22nd Council reviewed the study that
• was done for potential changes to the Mixmaster intersection. The
alternative recommended and approved was to provide some left turn
opportunities and mostly to add signage for pedestrian safety and to
help people find their way through the intersection. Staff was authorized
to proceed with plans and specifications and the engineers estimate for
that project. We had the Balboa Village Pedestrian and Streetscape
improvement plan as well as the redesign of the pier parking lot. A more
detailed presentation on cost estimates of design and contingencies as
well as a plan for funding it. The final costs estimate turned out to be
seven and a half million dollars. The City Council still supported it. I was
encouraged by comments made by both the Council and members of
the public. Part of this plan is that the property owners are expected to
form an assessment district to do undergrounding of utilities. She then
notified the Planning Commission that the Study Session on Wednesday
the only item on the agenda is to talk about General Plan update and
possibilities for surveys and visioning. The City Manager has arranged for
a consultant to be there to make a presentation.
b.) Oral report from Planning Commission's representative to the Economic
Development Committee - none.
C.) Matters that a Planning Commissioner would like staff to report on at a
subsequent meeting -Ms. Temple noted that she is scheduling a meeting
for April 13th that will address five reports. Discussion then followed on
how the Dunes is going to progress.
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d.) Matters that a Planning Commissioner may wish to place on a future
agenda for action and staff report - none.
e.) Requests for excused absences - The next meeting of March 23rd will
start at 6 p.m., however, Commissioner Kronzley said he would be late.
Commissioner Fuller asked to be excused from the meeting of March 234
making this his last meeting and Commissioner Gifford asked to be
excused from the meeting of April 61h.
ADJOURNMENT. 11:15 p.m.
RICHARD FULLER, SECRETARY
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
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Adjournment