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Planning Commission Minutes
April 18, 2002
Regular Meeting - 6:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
Commissioners McDaniel, Kiser, Agajanian, Tucker, Gifford, Kranzley and Selich -
Commissioner McDaniel was excused; Commissioner Selich arrived at 6:50 p.m.
STAFF PRESENT:
Sharon Wood, Assistant City Manager
Patricia Temple, Planning Director
Dan Ohl, Deputy City Attorney
Rich Edmonston, Transportation /Development Services Manager
James Campbell, Senior Planner
Todd Weber, Associate Planner
Jana Egan, Department Assistant
Ginger Varin, Planning Commission Executive Secretary
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Minutes:
Motion was made by Chairperson Tucker to approve the minutes of April 4, 2002 as
amended.
Ayes:
Agajanian, Tucker, Gifford, Kranzley
Noes:
None
Excused:
McDaniel, Selich
Abstain:
Kiser
Public Comments:
Postina of the Agenda:
The Planning Commission agenda was posted on Friday, April 12, 2002.
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Minutes
Approved
None
Posting of Agenda
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SUBJECT: Brown Duplex
405 Dahlia Avenue
• (PA2001 -173)
Substantial conformance review related to reorientation of the garages.
Chairperson Tucker noted that this item had been reviewed at the last two
meetings with no consensus.
Commissioner Kiser noted he had missed the last two meetings but listened to the
March 21st tape when this matter was discussed; and he had reviewed the
minutes of the April 4th meeting on this matter as well. Continuing, he noted that
the question before the Commission is whether the revised plans substantially
conform to the approved plans. In that regard, he stated:
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Changes in the plan now are that the cars will enter and exit the garages
from the east side of the property instead of the north side of the
property.
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Access will be directly from the street instead of over a recorded
reciprocal access agreement with a neighbor.
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Parking in the garages is now tandem, instead of side by side. This alone I
consider a substantial change from the prior plans.
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We will lose one on- street parking space, which would have been
gained from the prior plan.
Landscaping will be lost from the east side of the property, even though
the applicant is suggesting he would do some type of 'Grass Crete'
treatment there.
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The staff report acknowledges the previously approved plan, 'is arguably
the more superior plan,' than the plan we are being asked to find tonight
in substantial conformance.
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How can you find this to be in substantial conformance while at each
juncture with the things I have mentioned, the answer is no?
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The revised plan is not an insignificant change of a plan that substantially
conforms with the approved plan.
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Finding this plan in substantial conformance would set a precedent and
send a signal to staff that they could find plans re- submitted by an
applicant after Planning Commission approval, which significantly differ,
as this one does, from the approved plans, to be in substantial
conformance.
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This would be a dangerous precedent to set and a bad decision.
Motion
was made by Commissioner Kiser that the revised plan is not in
conformance with the plan that had been approved.
Chairperson Tucker noted that with the involvement of the neighbor, the good
faith effort of the applicant and the fact that the standards by which we review
substantial conformance I think are not as stringent as the granting of the
• variance in the first place. I would support the substantial conformance finding,
as a certain amount of it has to do with compassion with the circumstance. I
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don't think it is a great affront to the findings that we need to make, I do believe it
will be expensive for the applicant to go back and take advantage of the
variance that he still has. Looking at the circumstances, I think we ought to find
for substantial conformance and move on.
Ayes:
Kiser, Agajanian, Kranzley
Noes:
Tucker, Gifford
Excused:
McDaniel
Absent:
Selich
SUBJECT:
Hyatt Newporter
1107 Jamboree Road
• Use Permit No. 2001 -031 (PA 2001 -180)
A request to permanently include the Summer Jazz Series as an annually recurring
event, ancillary to the normal operations of the existing resort hotel facility.
Ms. Temple stated that this project does not include pavilion events nor anything
associated with the 4 day Jass Festival, which occurs in the springtime.
. Commissioner Kranzley noted the Noise Ordinance states that you should not be
able to hear 100 feet from the source of the sound, which would mean that if you
are in the back row of the ampitheater you would not be able to hear the music.
I think we need to find a more rational and logical noise measurement. I am in
support of this project, however, I believe we need to look at the Noise
Ordinance.
Ms. Temple noted her agreement stating that one audibility standard is on
amplified sound and does not apply to acoustical instruments. That old standard
was geared towards certain types of amplification that occur within buildings and
is somewhat outdated and in some circumstances not enforceable. I agree and
in working with the City Attorney's office, we have identified a number of changes
and it is a matter of finding the staff resources and time to actually accomplish a
review of Chapter 10.32 and Chapters in Title 5.
Commissioner Kiser asked if we were to approve this use permit tonight and if it
directly conflicts with our Chapter 10.32 paragraph D about the sound not being
audible in excess of 100 feet from the sound amplifying equipment. If these two
things are true, can we override this, or am I missing something?
Ms. Temple answered that you don't override a Municipal Code provision with a
use permit, however, this is the aspect of this particualar provision that in some
cicumstances may not be enforceable at all. What the noise report attempted to
do was to show that in every other way, this permit is consistent with all of the
other provisions of the code and concluded in the end that if any of the noise
• becomes to the point where it is considered loud and unreasonable based on
Title 10.28, that the City has the authority to order cessation immediately and that
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this was sufficient protection.
Commissioner Kiser then asked for input from counsel about our approving
something that has been presented as contrary to the City Ordinance that is in
front of us. I would add that paragraph E appears to also fly in the face of what
we are being asked to do tonight that indicates that sound amplifying equipment
shall not be used between the hours of 8:00 p.m. and 8:00 a.m.
Commissioner Selich arrived at 6:50 p.m.
Mr. Dan Ohl answered that this is an issue that his office has looked at, however,
there doesn't seem to be a specific consensus, although they are inclined to
conclude that the Commission would not have the authority to approve a use
permit that violates provisions of the Municipal Code.
Commissioner Kiser then stated his concern of where this potential approval would
leave the applicant, the potential liability of the City and with respect to the
citizens. He noted he would like to approve this application, but is having trouble
with these issues.
Mr. Ohl answered that there is no issue of liability and the City has specific
. immunity for any decisions to issue or not issue a permit. In terms of where it
places everybody, there is no definitive decision that has been made in our office.
Commissioner Kiser stated that he would not be voting for this tonight because of
these two statutes.
Commissioner Gifford noted this has been a problem for a long term. This
particular application, since it goes forward anyway under a Special Events Permit
isn't prejudiced by coming face to face with this issue. Perhaps this is the
application that forces the issue to be addressed because it has been a real
problem since the noise ordinance passed. I would be inclined to vote as
Commissioner Kiser because this application presents an opportunity to force the
resolution of this issue.
Chairperson Tucker stated he would vote on this application tonight and then
clean up and amend the ordinance later.
Commissioner Kranzley added that it gives a buffer, especially in that location,
that if there are problems with neighbors, this would be a fail /safe mechanism.
This is a perfect location for this, but in case the next owners of the Newporter
decide they would have a loud band, this gives us protection. I think we are okay
to vote in favor of this item and then deal with the noise ordinance as soon as we
can.
Chairperson Tucker noted that the loud and unreasonable noise has been the
• trigger point. We have not relied on the 100 feet from the sound equipment,
although it is bizarre. What is the purpose of amplification if you can't hear it 100
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feet away? Most people don't need amplification for less than 100 feet away.
The problem I guess is that we have conflicting ordinances and you have to figure
out which one you want to pick as superior because there is no guidance in the
ordinances themselves.
Todd Weber, Associate Planner noted the following changes:
• Condition 90 - should say, 'Maintain a calibrated integrating sound level
meter for noise level monitoring purposes,' as the applicant had
purchased one for the purpose of the noise study and improvements to
the sound system.
• Condition 9h - should read,' employing the same audio engineers or a
replacement In conjunction with City approval....'. The applicant has
indicated that there may be some problems in trying to keep the some
person and want some flexibitliy.
Kevin Culbertson, Culbertson Adams and Associates, representing the applicant
noted:
• Condition 9c - talking about the onsite contact if there are any percived
problems. Following a brief discussion, it was decided to edit the last
sentence, 'Adequate steps shall be taken to resolve the complaint,
including actions such as lowering the music setting or stopping the
. event upon order of the Police Department.' The Police Department
always has the discretion to not require any corrective actions if no valid
problem is documented in the field.
• Condition 9b - surprised to see this condition listed because some studies
had been done in the year 2000 where measurements were taken. That
study is part of the report and the program here. Last year's event
employed state of the art sound measurement as well as stringent
monitroring during the events. There were no recorded complaints for
this series. I believe this particular condition related to a previous
component of this applicant (Holdiay Pavilion). That component is no
longer part of this application. It was also the applicant's understanding
that if any additional monitoring was going to take place it would be at
the City's expense as opposed to the applicant's. It refers to monitoring
activities for all events. The Summer Jazz Series has 20 events that occur
every Friday night, that would seem too much to assess each event as
opposed to doing some randomly over the period of time.
Ms. Temple stated that the conditions were drafted to provide us with the greatest
level of security in this regard since it is a use permit entitlement, now a vested
entitlement as opposed to something which needs to be renewed on a regular
basis. It depends on the level of comfort the Commission has in the noise study,
conditions of approval and the monitoring work and the operation of the series
during the last calendar year as to whether this level of monitoring is required.
From staff's point of view, if we can retain a condition that if we start to incur
complaints, that we can require that further acoustical engineering monitoring be
• conducted during events would give us at least some level of protection. We
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should not make that just for the first year but for the ongoing operation of the
series. In all cases where the City is giving direction or making determinations that
probably should be identified as the Planning Director.
Mr. Culbertson agreed to that and added that the applicant was under the
impression that the expense was going to be borne by the City instead of the
Hyatt.
Commissioner Kiser suggested that 9b should be changed to read,' provide a
contract for a licensed acoustical engineer to monitor the activitities associated
with the Jazz Series ff it is determined by the Planning Director to be necessary to
achieve compliance with these conditions.
Commissioner Kranzley asked about Condtiion 2, the final sentence shall end
with,'... must have prior approval by....' It is clear on this condition we are not
using censorship on the music played, but if we are approving the Summer Jazz
Series and all of a sudden it becomes a heavy metal series, are they in substantial
conformance with the use permit?
Chairperson Tucker noted the differences with the business practicality and the
clientele that will be achieved by having jazz as opposed to something else.
• Commissioner Kiser noted he would like to vote for this tonight, but because of the
direct wording of the ordinance, 10.32.060 D and E will abstain. I hope something
is done to revise that ordinance.
Commisioner Gifford noted she would also abstain.
Motion was made by Commissioner Kranzley to adopt a Mitigated Negative
Declaration for the project and approve Use Permit 2001 -031, subject to the
findings, Mitigation measures and conditions of approval attached, by adopting
Resolution No. 1557 entitled, "A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City
of Newport Beach Approving UP No. 2001 -031 for Property Located at 1107
Jamboree Road with the changes as discussed with Conditions 2 and 9a, b, c and
h.
Ayes:
Agajanian, Tucker, Kranzley, Selich
Noes:
None
Abstain:
Kiser, Gifford
Excused:
McDaniel
SUBJECT: Newport Harbor Shipyard
101 Shipyard Way
• (PA2001 -158)
• Request for a Use Permit to allow construction of a paint spray booth that exceeds
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the maximum height limit within the 26/35 Height Limitation Zone. The paint spray
booth replaces an existing paint booth.
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Ms. Temple requested this item be continued to May 9, 2002.
Motion was made by Chairperson Tucker to continue this item to May 9th.
Ayes: Kiser, Agajanian, Tucker, Gifford, Kranzley
Noes: None
Excused: McDaniel, Selich
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS:
a) City Council Follow -up - Ms. Wood reported that at the City Council meeting
of April 9th the Council approved on second reading the changes for
Camco Pacific and Pacific Republic Capital; approved a professional
services agreement with the firm Urban Crossroads who are going to be
updating our traffic model as one of the technical studies leading up to the
General Plan Update; the Van Cleve appeal was continued indefinitely; and
a resolution for guidelines for sober living facilities in our City where the
County would certify them for meeting those guidelines after an inspection
by City staff.
b) Oral report from Planning Commission's representative to the Economic
Development Committee - none.
C) Report from Planning Commission's representatives to the General Plan
Update Committee - none.
d) Report from Planning Commission's representative to the Local Coastal
Plan Update Committee - none.
e) Matters that a Planning Commissioner would like staff to report on at a
subsequent meeting - none.
f) Matters that a Planning Commissioner may wish to place on a future
agenda for action and staff report - review of the Noise Ordinance.
g) Status report on Planning Commission requests - Ms. Temple presented an
update of the listing noting that items 6, 9, 12 and 13 are either new items or
updates. Chairperson Tucker asked that any NOP's be distributed to the
Commission for informational purposes.
h) Project status - Ms. Temple reported that the Newport Fish Company has
closed and have ceased pursing any amendments to the use permit.
Requests for excused absences - none.
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ADJOURNMENT: 7:30 p.m. I Adjournment
EARL MCDANIEL, SECRETARY
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
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