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The Chairman called for consideration of the Minutes of the
meeting; of i_arch 17, 19434 Commissioner Johnson moved that
the Minutes be approved as read. Motion seconded by Secre-
tary Seager., carried and so ordered.
Er. John Harvey appeared before the Commission with a matter
pertaining to certain acreage fronting on the wart Bay on
which he said there was a movement on foot to build a ten
story hotel and hotel apartment.,, with annex in the rear, cost-
ing approximately 11,500,000.00,. construction to commence after
the war. He stated that .the purpose of bringing the matter up
at this time was to make certain that the Ordinance would cover
such t;;pe of construction, thus avoiding future trouble and
' delay. At this point., Commissioner Vineh remarked that the
Ordinance limits buildings to two stories. Chairman Hopkins
said that it would be impossible to incorporate in the Ordi-
nance a height limit covering Pr. Harvey's project without
opening up the entire beach area wherever this.Ordinance ap-
plied, but that he felt sure that this Commission or any other
Commission in the future would listen attenta.tivdly to a request
for a permit at the time application was made. Commissioner
Patterson said it would create a grave problem if an attempt
were made to raise the two story building limit because of
the narrowness of our streets. Ohairman Hopkins suggested
that the matter .rest in abeyance for the time being; that
application for special consideration be made at the time con-
struction was expected to commence. Attention was called to
the Ordinance with respect to such type of buildings, and
Chairman Hopkins suggested amending the Ordinance to include
"Hotels ". Commissioner Patterson moved that line 15, Page 15
be amended to read "Hotels, Apartment Hotels, etc." Motion
seconded by Secretary Wager, carried and so ordered.
Yr. Harvey then called attention to certain property owned by
him on Balboa Island adjacent to the business zone, which he
insisted should be rezoned for business as it was ruined for
residential purposes. Commissioner Johnson remarked that this
' matter had been before the Commission for consideration eome
time ago, that there were a number of hearings and that the
citizens had strenuously objected to such rezoning. secretary
Seager reminded Pi. Harvey that a hearing upon this very same
point was held and decided against due to the many objections,
and that he, for one., would object to changing the zone at
this time. Mr. Harvey indicated that he intended to contest
The Newport Beach City
month!;;; meeting in the
Planning Commission held
Council Chambers, City Hall
its regular
,.Newport
'
leach, California, on 'dednesday,
April 21, 1943,
at 4 P.M.,
Chairman Hopkins presiding.
ROLL CALL
Commissioners present:
Hopkins,
3eager, Pinch,
Johnson,
Nelson,
Patterson and Campbell.
" absent:
Findlay
and Allen.
MINUTES
The Chairman called for consideration of the Minutes of the
meeting; of i_arch 17, 19434 Commissioner Johnson moved that
the Minutes be approved as read. Motion seconded by Secre-
tary Seager., carried and so ordered.
Er. John Harvey appeared before the Commission with a matter
pertaining to certain acreage fronting on the wart Bay on
which he said there was a movement on foot to build a ten
story hotel and hotel apartment.,, with annex in the rear, cost-
ing approximately 11,500,000.00,. construction to commence after
the war. He stated that .the purpose of bringing the matter up
at this time was to make certain that the Ordinance would cover
such t;;pe of construction, thus avoiding future trouble and
' delay. At this point., Commissioner Vineh remarked that the
Ordinance limits buildings to two stories. Chairman Hopkins
said that it would be impossible to incorporate in the Ordi-
nance a height limit covering Pr. Harvey's project without
opening up the entire beach area wherever this.Ordinance ap-
plied, but that he felt sure that this Commission or any other
Commission in the future would listen attenta.tivdly to a request
for a permit at the time application was made. Commissioner
Patterson said it would create a grave problem if an attempt
were made to raise the two story building limit because of
the narrowness of our streets. Ohairman Hopkins suggested
that the matter .rest in abeyance for the time being; that
application for special consideration be made at the time con-
struction was expected to commence. Attention was called to
the Ordinance with respect to such type of buildings, and
Chairman Hopkins suggested amending the Ordinance to include
"Hotels ". Commissioner Patterson moved that line 15, Page 15
be amended to read "Hotels, Apartment Hotels, etc." Motion
seconded by Secretary Wager, carried and so ordered.
Yr. Harvey then called attention to certain property owned by
him on Balboa Island adjacent to the business zone, which he
insisted should be rezoned for business as it was ruined for
residential purposes. Commissioner Johnson remarked that this
' matter had been before the Commission for consideration eome
time ago, that there were a number of hearings and that the
citizens had strenuously objected to such rezoning. secretary
Seager reminded Pi. Harvey that a hearing upon this very same
point was held and decided against due to the many objections,
and that he, for one., would object to changing the zone at
this time. Mr. Harvey indicated that he intended to contest
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the present zoning. He. said he had spent thousands and thous -
ands of dollars in taxes, assessments, etc., and he didn't '
see why his property should be confiscated. Chairman Hopkins
inquired if he didn't think the property owners in that area
were interested in this matter and should have definite notice
of any contemplated change in the Ordinance. He said, further-
more, if there were any contemplated change in the Ordinance,
notices shouldbe sent to interested property owners, and that
so far as he was concerned, he felt that the matter should
stand as it is. Mr. Harvey said he had not'been advised that
a new zoning ordinance was being considered, whereupon Com-
missioner Patterson remarked that it had been duly published
and advertised.
Commissioner Johnson moved that Mr. Harvey's request be denied.
P;'_otion seconded by Secretary 3eagbr, carried and so ordered.
Chairman Hopkins announced the second and final hearing on
proposed substitute or revision of Ordinance #440. Secretary
Seeger presented a lengthy written protest from the Citizens
National Trust & Savings Bank, of Los Angeles, California.
Commissioner Patterson moved that! the letter be tabled. Notion
seconded by Secretary Seager, carried and so-ordered.
Commissioner Patterson moved that the matter of further consid-
eration of the proposed revision of Ordinance #440 be laid
upon the table. Lotion seconded by Commission,3r Nelson, car-
ried Iand so ordered.
HEARING Secretary Seager read the application of H. W. Robinson for a
H.WROF- sideyard fifty percent setback variance having to do with Lots
TS01'12-.l7 and 18,, Block 11, Section 2, of Halboa Island, regarding
PAN certain alterations to the building located thereon.
YARD
Mr. Robison was called upon to make a statement with reference
to his application. He said he had made a survey of adjacent
property in the neighborhood, and that the variance would not
obstruct the view, and certainly would not damage the appear-
ance of the property. He said there was a concrete step and
overhanging roof which more than covered the variance asked
for, He stated that.Mr. Carmode,.who was present at the hear-
ing, was the nearest neighbor and that he was agreeable to the
granting of the variance, and two other property owners were
also present to signify their consent.. 11r. Robison explained
that he wished to enlarge the garage which was built some
time ago, and which was not large enough to accommodate the
larger type of automobile. chairman Hopkins called Sir. H obi -
son's attention to the fact that while the eaves of the roof
might extend beyond the Tarianoe requested, nevertheless, the
garage extension would create a solid obstruction. He also
remarked that the map showed that the house is built closer to ,
the property line than any other house in the neighborhood, and
inquired if Mr, Robison ever considered moving it back. Mr.
Robison said he considered it impracticable at this time due to
labor shortage and other wartime restrictions.
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Chairman Hopkins then announced that the commission would con-
sider protests, if any, from the floor. No protests.
Mrs. Rosenauer thereupon arose and stated that she represented
herself and her sister - both property owners in that neighbor-
hood - and that from her observation there was no objection to
the granting of the variance. Mr. Thos. A. Carmode, another
property owner, also spoke in support of the variance.
Chairman Hopkins remarked that this application plaoed the Com-
mission somewhat on the spot, as it had already investigated the
property; that there was a setback requitement "of 10 feet, and
that the building on the property is very close to the property
line. He said that the blocking up of the projection mentioned
by Mr. Robison would criate a solid wall and consequently obstruct
the view.
Commissioner Johnson moved that the application be denied. Sec -
retary Seager seconded the motion. A considerable discussion en-
sued and the Chair called for a roll call vote.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
Ayes: 17opkins, Seager, Nelson, Johnson, irinch, FINAL HEAR -
Patterson and Campbell.
Noes: None. 'Pi2"
Motion carried and so ordered.
Chairman Hopkins declared the Hearing on the application of
D. IN. Elliott for permit to slant drill for oil in West Newport
open, stating that this was the second and final hearing. He
asked Mr. Elliott if he would like to review matters teriefly as
to what, if anything, had transpired since the previous hearing.
Mr. Elliott stated that a few things had come up since the last
hearing having a bearing on the matter,_and that he would like to
take a few minutes to go over the map. he pointed to a well on
the map which he said was being drilled some three hundred feet from
the city limits. He said he felt certain they had oil there, that
it is not the same grade oil found before in this area, but a bet -
ter grade oil. tie said if they found oil, the area would be drilled
regardless of whether or not they made a deal with the city. How-
ever, if a deal with the city were made, all storage tanks would
be moved back of the city, and that he would do away with all ob-
jections growing out of storage, or army little gas that might es-
cape from the tanks. He said there would be no lease but a con-
tract with the city whereby the city would have complete control
and that no one would have cause for complaint. iie said the con-
tract provided for a bond to protect the city against any un-
'warranted action on his part; that the city attorney had examined
the contract, and that while it had not as yet been approved, it
was considered as quite complete* tie said that the contract was
drawn along the lines of the contract with the uity of Long Beach,
on which a lot of research work had been expended and legal angles
investigated, and that Long Beach had fared very well. He called
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attention to Secretary Ickes' encouragement of "wild cat" wells,
due, no doubt, he said because the Secretary foresaw a shortage
.of oil - fuel oil in particular. '
Chairman Hopkins inquired if there was any possibility of the
Federal Government being interested in drilling th this section.
Mr. Elliott replied that he thought not at this time, but that if
the State should try to take over, it would cost the city of New -
port Beach nothing, as it was.ap to him to protect his rights
under the contract.
Chairman Hopkins then inquired if there woos any questions from
the floor. Mr. Frank Riddle, property owner, who had protested
the granting of a permit to Mr. Elliott heretofore, took the floor.
He explained that he wished to clarify the impression he might have
given at the last hearing he attended. He explained that while he
objected to any drilling within the city limits, he at no time had
been opposed to slant drilling outside the city limits. He said
he was heartily in accord if the city wished to enter into a con-
tract with Mr. Elliott for slant or whipstock drilling, as he
didn't see why the city of Newport Beach should not receive the
revenue which might be derived therefrom. Mr. McArdle, another
former objector to the permit, supported Mr. Riddle's position,
as did Mr. F. Richards. when asked by uhairman Hopkins if they
wished it to appear of record that they had withdrawn their form-
er objections, they replied in the affirmative.
Mrs. B. Lee, property owner in west Newport, renewed her objet- I
tions to the permit.
After considerable discussion, commissioner Patterson said that
if the city of ldewport Beach should enter into a contract with
Mr. Elliott, he thought a portion of any royalties which might
accrue should be expended for the benefit of iivest Newport, and
that he would also like to see some part of such royalties ex-
pended in the prevention of beach erosion. vhairman Hopkins in-
quired if it was his opinion that the shoreline could not be pro-
tected under present conditionq. Commissioner Patterson replied
that there were plans being formulated., but it would cost a lot
of money; that perhaps there would be state or federal assist-
ance, but right now they w -re up against it because of lack of
funds. ne said that he thought Iffest Newport would be enhanced
if the shoreline were stabilised.
Chairman hopkins said that he. heartily agreed with commissioner
Patterson; that he would vote favorably on the permit for this
reason, and also for one other reason, namely, should the Planning
Commission turn down.thid application, and six months, a year or
two years from now oil were found in the vicinity close enough
to justify the State or i!vderal uovernment coming in and taking
over, the Planning Commission might well blame itself for not
using its head by taking advantage of the situation. ne said he '
was in favor of presenting a resolution to the city Council setting
out clearly the reasons for recommending favorable action on Aar.
Elliott's application.
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Commissioner Finch said he thought it would be a wise thing to
permit whipstock or slant drilling for oil under city property
in order that the city might derive some financial benefit. iie
said that under the type of contract contemplated, there should
be no such difficulties as experienced by Huntington Beach, and
that under the circumstances, he would be perfectly willing to
make a motion to permit whipstock or slant drilling west of
53rd street.
Commissioner Campbell said he would be willing to second such a
motion on one condition - that the City Engineer and City Attorney
see to it that there would be no drilling within the city limits.
Secretary Seeger said that if the Planning Commission were going
to vote favorably on this motion, it should place itself definitely
on record as to why it was voting favorably. He said it was within
the Planning Commission's jurisdiction to recommend that a certain
percentage - say fifty percent - of the revenue which might be de-
rived from such slant or whipstock drilling be expended in West
Newport. He said West Newport was often referred to as the "front
door" to Newport, and that, meaning no disrespect to the residents
of that district, it was a very disorderly front door. He recalled
that the Planning uommission had discussed ways and mean of improves
ing West Newport but had been handicapped by lack of funds, and that
he thought the Commission should place itself on record by recommend-
'ing to the City Council that a certain percentage of ar{y royalties
which might accrue should be diverted to the betterment and improve-
ment of Test Newport, which improvements were badly needed. Further
more, he thought it would not be good business judgment to deprive
the City of Newport Beach of any financial benefit it might receive.
He sr.id he thought a Committee of three should be appointed to draft
a resolution to the City Council, and that the Commission should make
its purpose clear and the reason for its action definite and positive.
He said he would not consider a favorable vote on the motion unless
it was clearly, definitely and positively understood that the entire
transaction would be so executed that the City of Newport Beach would
have absolute control; also, that it could not be construed by this
action that a further modification in the Ordinance would be likely
permitting drilling in the city limits. He said he thought the
City Council should be requested to declabe itself in favor of spend-
ing a percentage of royalties derived in the improvement of West New-
port. Furthermore, that the contract should be made with but one
party - thus eliminating the possibility of confusion which usually
occurs in the development of an oil well.
Commissioner Johnson said he wondered what answer the Planning Com-
mission could give to property owners in West Newport who might wish
to do some drilling on their own account., The Commission, he said,
would be compelled to deny a permit on the ground that it had given
'an exclusive. He said he felt sure that if the matter were put to
a referendum, 95% of the people would vote against it, and that he
would most certainly vote against giving an exclusive of any kind.
Secretary Seeger said that he did not look upon the matter as did
Commissioner Johnson, because this action had to do with whipstock
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or slant drilling outside the city limits. Should any property
owner within the city of Newport Beach wish to drill, they could ,
not do so without first obtaining the permission of the City
Council.
Commissioner Finch moved that the Planning Commission recommend
favorable action by the City Council upon Mr* Elliott's applioa-
tion for permit to whipstock or slant drill in West Newport.
Motion seconded by Commissioner Campbell.
ROLL, CALL VOTE:
Ayes: Hopkins, Seager, Finch., Nelson, Patterson and .
Campbell.
Noes: Johnson.
Motion carried and so ordered.
Motion by Secretary Seager that a committee of three be appoint-
ed to draw resolution to the City Council. Motion seconded by
Commissioner Campbell. Motion carried and so ordered. Committee
of three appointed as follows: Secretary Seager, Commissioners
Finch and Patterson.
It was concluded that both Ordinance #440 and Ordinance #372
would have to be amended to permit whipstock or-slant drilling
as both prohibited drilling.
Motion made by Commissioner Patterson that hearing on applica-
tion of D. W. Elliott be closed. Motion seconded by Secretary
Seager, carried and so ordered.
Secretary Seager moved that
bstitution of Ordinance #440 be
by Commissioner Johnson, carried
the matter of the revision or
lifted from the table. Seconded
and so ordered.
Commissioner Patterson moved that the written protest of the Cit-
izens National Trust & Savings Bank be lifted from the table.
Motion seconded by Secretary Seager,, carried and so ordered.
Secretary Seager moved that the written protest of the Citizens
National crust & Savings Bank be denied and filed. Motion
seconded by Commissioner Nelson., carried and so ordered.
Commissioner Patterson moved that Ordinances Nos. 440 and 372 ,
be amended so as to permit 7hipstock or slant drilling for oil,
petroleum, tar, gas or other hydro - carbon substances west of the
southeasterly line of 53rd Street and the southwesterly priblongation
thereof, provided the surface drilling therefor is located outside
the city limits.
' ROLL CALL VOT$;
Ayes:
Noes:
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Motion seconded by Secretary Seeger.
Hopkins, Seeger, Finch, Campbell, Nelson
and Patterson.
Johnson.
Motion carried and so ordered.
Motion by Commissioner Patterson that westerly of the Newport
Pier and sadtherly on Ocean Front R -1 zone be changed to R -2 zone.
Seconded by Secretary Seeger, Carried and so ordered.
Motion by Commissioner
Central Avenue between
ad so as to extend 205
along Nineteenth. Street
northeasterly of 0-2 zc
er Nelson, carried and
Patterson that 0-2 zone northerly on
Nineteenth and Twentieth streets be chang-
feet along Twentieth Street and 255 feet
, and the balance of the block lying
ne be zoned as M -1. Seconded by Commission -
so ordered.
Secretary Seeger moved that the Ordinance as written and mapped
be recommended to the City Council for adoption. Seconded by
Commissioner Nelson.
' ROLL CALL VOTE:
Ayes: Hopkins, Seeger, Finch, Campbell, Nelson
and Patterson.
Noes: Johnson.
Carried and so ordered.
Motion by Commissioner Patterson to close the hearing. Seconded.
by Secretary Seager, carried and so ordered.
Motion by Secretary Seager to resume Post-War planning. Motion
seconded by Commissioner Finch, carried and so ordered.
Chairman Hopkins suggested thet
Post -War Planning Committee, be
Harbor Facilities and Expansion
regular monthly meeting of the
it would be appropriate to have
present.
Commissioner Finch, Chairman of
prepared to submit Item 3 -
- for discussion at the next
7ommission.1 suggesting also that
a member of the Harbor Commission
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Patterson moved that the meeting be adjourned.
Motion seconded by Commissioner Johnson, carried and so
' ordered.
Respe tfully
snub /mit ad,
H049ARD lV. SEAGER
Secretary