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REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
PLACE: .City Council Chambers
TIME: 7:30 p.m.
DATE: August 18, 1983
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EX- OFFICIO MEMBERS PRESENT:
James D. Hewicker, Planning Director
Robert D. Gabriele, Assistant City Attorney
STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT:
William R. Laycock, Current Planning Administrator
Donald Webb, City Engineer
Robert P. Lenard, Advance Planning Administrator
Nancy M. Alvidrez, Secretary
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REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
PLACE: .City Council Chambers
TIME: 7:30 p.m.
DATE: August 18, 1983
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EX- OFFICIO MEMBERS PRESENT:
James D. Hewicker, Planning Director
Robert D. Gabriele, Assistant City Attorney
STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT:
William R. Laycock, Current Planning Administrator
Donald Webb, City Engineer
Robert P. Lenard, Advance Planning Administrator
Nancy M. Alvidrez, Secretary
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Mr. Bill Laycock, Current Planning Administrator,
referred to Item No. 1 - Use Permit No. 1852 - Hassan's
Cafe, stating that the City Attorney's office has
recommended that this item be removed from calendar.
In addition, the following items are proposed to be
continued: Item No. 4 - Use Permit No. 2020 (Amended)
and Item No. 5 - Variance No. 1103 - Le Bistro
Restaurant, the applicant has requested that these
items be continued to the September 8, 1983 Planning
Commission Meeting. Item No. 8 - Lot Line Adjustment
No. 83 -3, the applicant of The Irvine Company. has
requested that this item be continued to the September
�22, 1983 Planning Commission Meeting. Item No. 10 -
Use Permit No. 1677 (Amended) and Item No. 11 -
Variance No. 1106 - The Stuft Noodle Restaurant, the .
applicant has requested that both of these items be
continued to the September 8, 1983 Planning Commission
Meeting. Item No. 13 - Use Permit No. 3056 and Item
No. 14 - Variance No. 1105 a proposed restaurant I on
Balboa Island, the applicant has .requested that both
these items be continued to the September 22, 1983
Planning Commission Meeting. Item No. 15 - Use Permit
No. 3057 and Item No. 16 - Tentative Map of Tract No.
12035 - Wale Development Corporation, the applicant has
requested that these items be continued to the
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No. 17 - Tentative Map of Tract No. 10814 (Revised) ,
the applicant of The Irvine .Company has requested that
this item be continued to the September 8, 1983
Planning Commission Meeting.
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Motion Motion was made to continue the above noted items,
All Ayes. X X X X Items No. 4 and 5, 8, 10 and 11, 13 and 14, 15 and 16,
and 17, which MOTION CARRIED.
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All Ayes X X X X
Motion was made to remove Item No. 1 from the calendar,
which MOTION CARRIED.
Request to consider revocation proceedings on Use (item #1
Permit No. 1852 that permitted the establishment of
Hassan's Cafe with on -sale beer and wine in the C -1
District. Said revocation proceedings are in
conjunction with the failure of the applicant to
purchase required in -lieu parking permits from the
City.
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LOCATION: Portions of Lots 3 and 7 of Section 28,
Township 6 South, Range 10 West, San
USE PERMIT
NO. 1852
Bernardino Meridian, located at 3325
Newport Boulevard, on the westerly side of
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and 32nd Street, in Central Newport.
ZONE: C -1
APPLICANT: - Hassan Hassan, La Habra
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OWNERS: John P. Myers and Maxine Myers,
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As per the request of the City Attorney's office,
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motion was made to remove Item #1 - Use Permit No. 1852
(Revocation) from the calendar, which MOTION CARRIED.
Request to resubdivide an existing single parcel of
Item #2
land into two parcels for single family residential
purposes. The proposal also includes a request for an
exception to the Subdivision Code. so as to allow the
creation of two interior parcels with less than 50 foot
widths. The proposal also includes the acceptance of
an environmental document.
LOCATION: 'Lot No. 29, Block E, Tract No. 1219,
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located at 1021 Kings Road, on the
DIVISION.
southerly side of Kings Road between
NO. 755
St. Andrews Road and Signal Road, in Cliff
Haven.
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APPLICANT: Charles Winfield, Newport Beach
OWNER: - Same as applicant
ENGINEER: Same as applicant
The public hearing opened in connection.with this item DENIED
and Mr. Charles Winfield, applicant, appeared before
the Commission. Mr. Winfield gave his presentation and
asked for approval of his request.
Chairman King asked the applicant to show the
Commission the maps that he presented during his
presentation and a copy of the petition that he
circulated. Chairman King also questioned the property
located at 1821 Kings Road, which Mr. Winfield referred
to in the presentation.
• In response to a question .posed by Chairman King,
Mr. Laycock, Current Planning Administrator, stated
that the square footage of the two lots exceed Code
requirements,.but that the lots do not meet the minimum
Ordinance requirements of 50 feet in width. Mr.
Laycock further stated that in order to determine the
lot width, the average width of the lot would have to
be determined.
Mr. Robert Craig, 418 Snug Harbor Road, member of Board
of Directors at the Cliff Haven Homeowners Association,
stated that the Board met with Mr. Winfield. After a
lengthy review and discussion, the Board voted not to
support Mr. Winfield's request for the following
reasons:
1. It is against. the lot size restrictions for the
neighborhood which requires a minimum width of 50
feet.
2. There are several parcels in Cliff Haven which will
qualify for lot splits if this one is approved.
3. This lot split, if allowed to happen, will be the
beginning of several lot splits in Cliff Haven and
• destroy the unique character and charm of the
neighborhood.
The Board of Directors for Cliff Haven Homeowners
Association therefore respectfully request that
Mr'. Winfield's resubdivision be denied.
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Mr. Brad Dorgman, resident of 1.020 Kings Road, appeared
before the Commission. Mr. Dorgman stated that if the
lot split is approved, there would be increased traffic
and extra vehicles on the street and that there would
be congestion in the area, both of which are factors he
would like the Commission to consider.
Commissioner Balalis mentioned the fact that he was
surprised to see that Mr. Winfield has received as many
positive votes to resubdivide 'his lot. Commissioner
Balalis suggested, for the consideration of
Mr. Winfield, that he might want to have the
opportunity to collect more signatures to try to
convince the Association that what he is requesting is
not as detrimental as it appears to be.
Chairman King added to Commissioner Balalis' comments
stating that the two lots of the lot split would be
larger than all the interior lots on the other side of
Kings Road and at least as large as some of the others
• already existing on the southerly side of Kings Road.
In response to. a question posed by Chairman King,
Mr. Laycock stated that the only irregularity of the
Subdivision.Code is the width of the proposed lots.
Motion I I IX IXIXI Mootion was made for the denial of Resubdivision
Ayes X X X X No. 755, subject to the Findings for Denial in Exhibit
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"A", which MOTION CARRIED.
FINDINGS:
1. Although the square footages of the proposed
parcels, are substantially greater than the 5,000
sq.ft. minimum required by Code, the proposed
widths of the subject parcels do not meet the
minimum standards of the Subdivision Code.
2. That the proposed resubdivision is inconsistent
with the established size and shape of a majority
of other lots in the Cliff Haven area, which was
subdivided originally under a concept of larger
lots.
I I I I I I I 3. That the unique characteristic of the community
. with the larger sized lots should be preserved and
remain as originally developed.
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4. That the granting of this exception is not
compatible with the objectives of the regulations
governing light, air and the public health,
safety, convenience, and general welfare.
5. That the granting of an exception to the
Subdivision Code will be detrimental to the public
welfare or injurious to other property in the
Vicinity in which the property is located.
Request to establish one building site and eliminate
interior property lines where three lots presently
exist so as to permit future commercial development on
the property.
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LOCATION: Lots No. 17, 18 and 19, Block 7,
Resubdivision of. Section One of Balboa DIVISION
Island, located at 133 Agate Avenue, on NO. 756
• the southwesterly corner of Agate Avenue
and Park Avenue, on Balboa Island.
ZONE: C -1 -H
APPLICANT: Mr. Bruce E. Nott, Irvine
OWNER: Same as applicant
ENGINEER: Duca- McCoy, Inc., Corona del Mar
The public hearing opened in connection with this .item
and Mr. Bill Laycock, Current Planning Administrator
stated that the applicant telephoned the Planning
Department this afternoon and said that he was unable
to attend the Planning Commission meeting. However, he
had reviewed all of the Conditions of Approval and had
no objections.to said conditions.
Motion X Motion was made for the approval of Resubdivision
All Ayes X X X X X X No. 756, subject to the Findings and Conditions in
Exhibit "A ", which MOTION CARRIED.
FINDINGS:
1. That the map meets the requirements of Title 19 of
• the Newport Beach Municipal Code, all ordinances of
the City, all applicable general or specific plans
and the Planning Commission is satisfied with the
plan of subdivision.
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2. That . the proposed resubdivision presents no
problems from a planning standpoint.
3. That the design of the subdivision or the proposed
improvements will not conflict with any easements,
acquired by the public at large, for access
through or use of, property within the proposed
subdivision.
CONDITIONS:
1. That a parcel map be recorded.
2. That all improvements be constructed as required by
ordinance and the Public Works Department.
3. That a 15 -foot radius corner cutoff at the corner
of Agate Avenue and Park Avenue be dedicated to the
public.
4. That the existing curb return at the intersection
of Park.Avenue and Agate Avenue be reconstructed on
a 20 -foot radius and that an access ramp be
included within it; and that the existing
non - standard curb and sidewalk along Park Avenue
be reconstructed. All .work is to be completed
prior to recordation of the parcel map and under
an. encroachment permit issued by the Public Works
Department.
Request to amend a previously approved use permit which
permitted the establishment of the "Le Bistro"
Restaurant facility with on -sale beer and wine in the
C -1 District. The proposed amendment is a, request to
increase the "net public area" of the restaurant and to
add live entertainment (i.e., a piano) to the
restaurant operation.
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Request to waive all of the additional required
off- street parking spaces in conjunction with the
expansion of the "net public area" of the "Le Bistro"
Restaurant facility.
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Item #4
USE PERMIT
No. 2020
(Amended)
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Item #5
VARIANCE
NO. 1103
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2. That . the proposed resubdivision presents no
problems from a planning standpoint.
3. That the design of the subdivision or the proposed
improvements will not conflict with any easements,
acquired by the public at large, for access
through or use of, property within the proposed
subdivision.
CONDITIONS:
1. That a parcel map be recorded.
2. That all improvements be constructed as required by
ordinance and the Public Works Department.
3. That a 15 -foot radius corner cutoff at the corner
of Agate Avenue and Park Avenue be dedicated to the
public.
4. That the existing curb return at the intersection
of Park.Avenue and Agate Avenue be reconstructed on
a 20 -foot radius and that an access ramp be
included within it; and that the existing
non - standard curb and sidewalk along Park Avenue
be reconstructed. All .work is to be completed
prior to recordation of the parcel map and under
an. encroachment permit issued by the Public Works
Department.
Request to amend a previously approved use permit which
permitted the establishment of the "Le Bistro"
Restaurant facility with on -sale beer and wine in the
C -1 District. The proposed amendment is a, request to
increase the "net public area" of the restaurant and to
add live entertainment (i.e., a piano) to the
restaurant operation.
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Request to waive all of the additional required
off- street parking spaces in conjunction with the
expansion of the "net public area" of the "Le Bistro"
Restaurant facility.
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Item #4
USE PERMIT
No. 2020
(Amended)
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Item #5
VARIANCE
NO. 1103
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LOCATION:. Lots No. 1121, 1122 and a portion of Lot
No. 1123, Tract No. 907, located at 3448
Via Oporto, on the northeasterly side of
Via Oporto, between Central Avenue and Via
Lido, in Lido Marina Village.
ZONE: C -1 -H
APPLICANT: Mavis Investments, dba Le Bistro,
Newport Beach
OWNER: Traweek Investments, Marina Del Rey
Staff suggested that these items be continued to the
September 8, 1983 Planning Commission Meeting as per
the request of the applicant.
Motion was made to continue Item No. 4 - Use Permit
No. 2020 (Amended) and Item No. 5 - Variance No. 1103,
which MOTION CARRIED.
Request to permit the construction of a two unit
residential condominium development and related garage
spaces on property located in the R -3 District.
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Request to resubdivide an existing single parcel of
land in the R -3 District into a single parcel for
residential condominium purposes.
LOCATION: Lot No. 12, Block .109, Section B, Newport
Beach Tract, located at 922 West Balboa
Boulevard, on the northerly side of West
Balboa Boulevard, between Ninth Street and
Tenth Street, on the Balboa Peninsula.
ZONE: R -3
APPLICANT.: Dean Mollner, Santa Ana
OWNER: Same as applicant
ENGINEER/
ARCHITECT: Brion S. Jeannette & Associates,
Newport Beach
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NO. 757
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The public hearing opened in connection with this item
and Mr. Brion Jeannette, architect, representing Dean
Mollner, appeared before the Commission. Mr. Jeannette
stated that based on the fact that there is an effort
to reduce the zoning in the area, he has reduced the
plans by about 123 square feet. This new total floor
area reduces the livable buildable area, not including
the garages or. the storage area, to 1.83 times the
buildable area.
Chairman King stated that Commissioner Balalis was
absent from the last Planning Commission meeting, and
the City Attorney's office indicated that if the
Commission were able to restate some of the concerns
that the Commission had at the last meeting, it would
enable Commissioner Balalis to vote on this matter.
The concerns were the overall buildable of the original
development of 1.98 times the buildable area without
garage spaces and the 2.34 times the buildable area
including the enclosed car spaces. An additional
concern was the 3 tandem garage spaces. The Commission
voted 3 Ayes, 3 Noes and asked the applicant to come
back when a full Commission was present.
Commissioner Winburn commended Brion Jeannette for the
work that he has done in this item.
Motion was made for approval of Item No. 6 - Use Permit
X X No. 3051, with the reduced plans, and subject to the
Findings and Conditions in Exhibit "A', which MOTION
CARRIED.
Motion was made for approval of Item No. 7 -
Resubdivision No. 757, which MOTION CARRIED.
USE PERMIT NO. 3051
FINDINGS:
1. That each of the proposed units has been designed
as a condominium with separate and individual
utility connections.
I I I I 112. The project will comply with all applicable
standard plans and zoning requirements. for new
buildings applicable to the district in which the
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3. The project lot size conforms to the Zoning Code
requirements in effect at the time of approval.
4. The project is consistent with the adopted goals
and policies of the General Plan.
5. That adequate on -site parking spaces are available
for the proposed residential condominium
development:
6. The approval of Use Permit No. 3051 will not, under
the circumstances of the particular case, be
detrimental to the health, safety, peace, comfort
and general .welfare of persons residing or working
in the neighborhood of such proposed use or be
detrimental or injurious to . property and
improvements in the neighborhood or the general
welfare of the City.
CONDITIONS:
1. That development shall be in substantial
conformance with the approved plot ,plan, floor
plans, and elevations, except as noted below.
2. That the plans shall be revised slightly so that
the proposed residential project shall not exceed
the allowable 24/28 feet on the front one -half of
the lot.
3. That a minimum of one accessible parking space and
one tandem parking space shall be provided for each
dwelling unit.
4. That all conditions of approval of Resubdivision
No. 757 be fulfilled.
5. That the proposed development shall not exceed 1.83
times the buildable area of the site, excluding the
garage spaces and adjoining storage area.
RESUBDIVISION NO. 757
FINDINGS:
1. That the map meets the requirements of Title 19 of
• the Newport Beach Municipal Code, all ordinances of
the City, all applicable general or specific plans
and the Planning Commission is satisfied with the
plan of subdivision.
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2. That the design of the subdivision or the proposed
improvements will not conflict with any easements,
acquired by the public at large, for access through
or use of, property within the proposed
subdivision.
3. That the proposed resubdivision presents no
problems from a planning standpoint.
CONDITIONS:
1. That a parcel map be filed.
2. That all improvements be constructed as required by
ordinance and the Public Works Department.
3. That a standard subdivision agreement and
accompanying surety be provided in order to
guarantee satisfactory completion of the public
improvements, if it is desired to record a parcel
map or obtain a building permit prior to completion
of the public improvements.
4. That each dwelling unit be served with an
individual water service and sewer lateral
connection to the public water and sewer systems
unless otherwise approved by the Public Works
Department.
5. That the existing drive apron be removed and
replaced with curb and sidewalk along the Balboa
Boulevard frontage under an encroachment permit
issued by the Public Works Department.
6. That all vehicular access to the parcel be from the
adjacent alley.
7. That the proposed driveway be paved to join the
alley pavement and shall be reviewed and approved
by the Public Works and Building Departments.
Request to adjust the common area lot lines for the
purpose of eliminating structural.encroachments on lots
located in Tract No. 6230.
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ENGINEER: Psomas & Associates, Costa Mesa
Staff suggested that this item be continued to the
September 22, 1983 Planning Commission Meeting as per
the request of the applicant.
Motion X Motion was made to continue Item No. 8 - Lot Line
All Ayes X X X X X X X Adjustment No. 83 -3, which MOTION CARRIED.
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• Request to amend a previously approved use permit which
permitted the expansion of A. T. Leo's Restaurant
facility with on -sale alcoholic beverages. The
proposed amendment is a request to add live
entertainment and dancing to the restaurant use, and to
delete a Condition of Approval requiring valet parking
on week nights.'
LOCATION: Lots 58 -67, Tract No. 673, located at 3901
East Coast Highway, on the southeasterly
corner of East Coast Highway and Hazel
Drive in Corona del Mar
ZONE: C -1 and R -1
APPLICANT: A. T. Leo's Fine Food & Spirits,
Corona del Mar
OWNER: Same as Applicant
Commissioner Goff stated that due to a personal
friendship with one of the partners of the subject
restaurant, he would like to step down from any actions
on this item.
• I I I I I I The public hearing opened in connection with this item
and Mr. Al Mayo, General Partner of A.T. Leo's
Restaurant, appeared before the Commission. Mr. Mayo
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USE PERMIT I
NO. 1965
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LOCATION: Tract No. 6230, located on the northerly
LOT LINE
side of Vista Del 'Oro, between Vista Del
ADJUSTMENT
NO. 83 -3
Sol and Vista Del Playa, in the Bluffs
ZONE: R- 4- B -2 -PRD
APPLICANT: The Irvine Company, Newport Beach
OWNER: Same as Applicant.
ENGINEER: Psomas & Associates, Costa Mesa
Staff suggested that this item be continued to the
September 22, 1983 Planning Commission Meeting as per
the request of the applicant.
Motion X Motion was made to continue Item No. 8 - Lot Line
All Ayes X X X X X X X Adjustment No. 83 -3, which MOTION CARRIED.
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• Request to amend a previously approved use permit which
permitted the expansion of A. T. Leo's Restaurant
facility with on -sale alcoholic beverages. The
proposed amendment is a request to add live
entertainment and dancing to the restaurant use, and to
delete a Condition of Approval requiring valet parking
on week nights.'
LOCATION: Lots 58 -67, Tract No. 673, located at 3901
East Coast Highway, on the southeasterly
corner of East Coast Highway and Hazel
Drive in Corona del Mar
ZONE: C -1 and R -1
APPLICANT: A. T. Leo's Fine Food & Spirits,
Corona del Mar
OWNER: Same as Applicant
Commissioner Goff stated that due to a personal
friendship with one of the partners of the subject
restaurant, he would like to step down from any actions
on this item.
• I I I I I I The public hearing opened in connection with this item
and Mr. Al Mayo, General Partner of A.T. Leo's
Restaurant, appeared before the Commission. Mr. Mayo
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asked why there are only negative comments in the staff
report and not the signatures of approval from the
people within the Shore Cliffs Community.
In, response to Mr. Mayo's question, Mr. Bill Laycock,
Current Planning Administrator, stated that the
petitions from the past were for the opening of the
restaurant itself or its expansion. Mr. Laycock
further stated that at the time;, no live entertainment
or dancing was permitted. If the applicant desired to
submit another petition; saying that the surrounding
residents had no objections to live entertainment or
dancing then those signatures would have been added to
the staff report.
Mr. Mayo asked for clarification of Condition No. 5 in
Exhibit "C ", asking for dedication of a 10 -foot radius
corner cutoff at the corner of Hazel Drive and East
Coast Highway. In response to Mr. Mayo's question
Mr. Donald Webb, City Engineer, stated that the
• original conditions of this particular use permit
required a parcel map to he filed and there has not
been a parcel map submitted.
Mr. Mayo further stated that he spoke with the Planning
Department notifying them that the person owning the
second trust deed would not give his approval to said
dedication so this made complications. In response to
Mr. Mayo's statement, Mr. Webb stated.that staff was
not aware of the problems with recording of the map and
that staff was assuming the corner cutoff would be a
part of the map when it is recorded.
Commissioner Winburn asked Mr. Mayo if his request were
approved with the valet parking not required during the
week, how full does he think the parking lot will
become during the week? In response to Commissioner
Winburn's question, Mr. Mayo stated that when there are
no banquets, weddings, etc., the parking lot does not
get full. However, A.T. Leo's does intend to continue
with the valet parking on the weekends.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner
McLaughlin, Mr. Mayo stated that he has not met with
the Shore Cliffs Property Owners Association regarding
any objections to his request, but if it is needed, he
• will take the petition door to door to get
recommendations for the approval of his request.
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In response to a question posed by Commissioner Person,
Mr. Mayo stated that he is primarily interested in live
entertainment for private parties during the day, and a
piano bar at night.
Mr. Jim Sands, appeared before the Commission.
Mr. Sands stated that normally the weddings last from
12:00 p.m. to 4:00 P.M. or from 1:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m.,
and the bands are usually for three hour sessions.
Commissioner Person stated that if the Commission were
to pose a condition that the live entertainment would
not be permitted after 5:00 p.m., with the exception of
the piano bar, would the applicant be willing to accept
such a condition? The applicant accepted Commissioner
Person's suggested condition.
Mr. John .Killefer, President of the Shore Cliffs
Property Owners Association, appeared before the
Commission. Mr. Killefer stated that the concern of
Shore Cliffs is that of noise, litter and parking.
Mr. Killefer further stated that due to patrons who
park illegally in Shore Cliffs, there is a great deal
of litter left behind. One of the members of Shore
Cliffs has gone out and picked up parking tickets that
people have taken off of their windshields and thrown
them on the ground. Mr. Killefer stated they concurred
with the staff report for the denial of live
entertainment.
In response to a question posed by Chairman King,
Mr. Killefer stated that. with respect to live
entertainment, Shore Cliffs would concur with the
statement to break the proposed request down to two
types of live entertainment, a piano bar vs. a band,
music for wedding receptions, etc.
Mr. Herb Rudder, resident of. Corona del Mar, appeared
before the Commission. Mr. Rudder stated that people
should have a right to change their business or expand
their business and also that he doesn't believe that,
being in the restaurant business, the applicant's
request will do any harm at this point.
Yurther. stated that he and his wife were part of the
opponents that Mr. Mayo ran into.approximately one year
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Mr. Oakley Frost, resident at 416 Hazel, Corona del
Mar, appeared before the Commission. Mr. Frost stated
that the .problem is that of the noise. Mr. Frost
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opponents that Mr. Mayo ran into.approximately one year
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the restaurant had at that time. Whether because of
the voluntary compliance or the restrictions imposed in
the use permit, they found that the problems have not
continued substantially throughout the year. Mr. Frost
concurred with the comments of Mr. Rudder. Mr. Frost
stated his concern that no use permit be permitted that
does not specifically prevent live entertainment or
dancing in the evening except for a piano bar.
Mr. Frost suggested a specific condition that there be
no electronically amplified music.
Mr. William Barten, resident of Newport Beach, stated
that he has made it clear to live with restricted
conditions, i.e., wedding receptions, private banquets
permitted only between the hours of 1:00 p.m. and
5:00 p.m., and that he would be willing to restrict
live entertainment to a piano bar at night. 'Mr. Barten
further stated that as an investor of A.T. Leo's
Restaurant, he would not agree to a condition for the
dedication of a 10 foot radius corner cutoff which he
• considers a taking of his property by the City, which
is one of the conditions of approval and that he would
like to ask the Planning staff whether they must have
that condition..
In response to Mr. Barten's question, Mr. Webb, City
Engineer, stated that as far as the corner cutoff is
concerned, it-is not important to have that now as long
as Hazel Drive stays as a one -way street. Mr. Webb
further stated that he would question the fact that the
parcel map has not been filed on the site which was
part of the original condition and that this is
something that should be looked into in more detail and
clarified.
Mr. Barten commented on Commissioner Winburn's question
regarding valet parking, stating that he believes more
people turn away from a parking lot when there is valet'
parking than when there is no valet parking.
.Mr. Wit Thomas, a resident on Evening Canyon Road,
appeared before the Commission. Mr. Thomas stated that
living directly across from A.T. Leo's Restaurant, he
is very concerned with the sound, coming from the
restaurant. Mr. Thomas further stated that a use
• permit of this kind should specify restricted business
hours.
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Mr. Dave Carpenter, owner of property located at 346
Poppy Avenue and 343 Hazel Drive, appeared before the
Commission. Mr. Carpenter stated that what he is
concerned about is not any activity that is
self - contained in the restaurant, but that the problem
is drunks. Mr. Carpenter further stated that he
brought with him a letter from Mr. and Mrs. Jim
Brachae, 333 Poppy Avenue, relating to the A.T. Leo's
Restaurant request. The letter discussed the noise
pollution to the neighborhood and its aesthetic
quality, unique to the village atmosphere of this beach
community. .
Ms. Pat Shapiro, resident of 287 Evening Canyon Road,
stated that she feels a piano bar is A good addition to
A.T. Leo's, as long as the piano bar is not amplified
to the point where it can be heard outside the
building. Ms. Shapiro further stated without
amplification, there would not be too much of a
problem..
• Mr. wally Zigler, resident of 327 Poppy Avenue,
appeared before the Commission. Mr. Zigler
complimented Mr. Mayo on the food he serves. Mr.
Zigler stated that he worries about live entertainment
relating to amplification in the day time and up to
5:00 p.m.
Mr.. Philip Icarion, who has consulted with Mr. Mayo for
in excess of one year, appeared before the Commission.
Mr. Icarion stated he owns a restaurant that does
weddings on Saturday afternoons as well as another
restaurant that has a piano bar. Mr. Icarion further
stated that the existing restaurant has a stereo system
that can be. turned up to the extent that any rock n'
roll band in the area will be drowned out and that you
can not have a piano bar without it being amplified in
some manner. Mr. Icarion gave . some examples of
restaurants that have amplified piano bar; i.e., The
Park Restaurant, Five Crowns, and The Quiet Woman. The
competitive disadvantage that A.T. Leo's is presently
in would only be magnified if it were forced to go with
an unamplified piano bar,.and it would be a "joke" of
the restaurant industry.
In response to a question posed by Chairman King,
• Mr. Icarion stated that in terms of a piano bar, the
normal type configuration is where the piano player
would sit in back and have an amplifier with a
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Mr. Dave Carpenter, owner of property located at 346
Poppy Avenue and 343 Hazel Drive, appeared before the
Commission. Mr. Carpenter stated that what he is
concerned about is not any activity that is
self - contained in the restaurant, but that the problem
is drunks. Mr. Carpenter further stated that he
brought with him a letter from Mr. and Mrs. Jim
Brachae, 333 Poppy Avenue, relating to the A.T. Leo's
Restaurant request. The letter discussed the noise
pollution to the neighborhood and its aesthetic
quality, unique to the village atmosphere of this beach
community. .
Ms. Pat Shapiro, resident of 287 Evening Canyon Road,
stated that she feels a piano bar is A good addition to
A.T. Leo's, as long as the piano bar is not amplified
to the point where it can be heard outside the
building. Ms. Shapiro further stated without
amplification, there would not be too much of a
problem..
• Mr. wally Zigler, resident of 327 Poppy Avenue,
appeared before the Commission. Mr. Zigler
complimented Mr. Mayo on the food he serves. Mr.
Zigler stated that he worries about live entertainment
relating to amplification in the day time and up to
5:00 p.m.
Mr.. Philip Icarion, who has consulted with Mr. Mayo for
in excess of one year, appeared before the Commission.
Mr. Icarion stated he owns a restaurant that does
weddings on Saturday afternoons as well as another
restaurant that has a piano bar. Mr. Icarion further
stated that the existing restaurant has a stereo system
that can be. turned up to the extent that any rock n'
roll band in the area will be drowned out and that you
can not have a piano bar without it being amplified in
some manner. Mr. Icarion gave . some examples of
restaurants that have amplified piano bar; i.e., The
Park Restaurant, Five Crowns, and The Quiet Woman. The
competitive disadvantage that A.T. Leo's is presently
in would only be magnified if it were forced to go with
an unamplified piano bar,.and it would be a "joke" of
the restaurant industry.
In response to a question posed by Chairman King,
• Mr. Icarion stated that in terms of a piano bar, the
normal type configuration is where the piano player
would sit in back and have an amplifier with a
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microphone to his face and a microphone down on the
keys. There are two speakers, one to each side of him,
that play out toward the crowd.
Another aspect of this situation is that the restaurant
is not looking for dancing at night, but the fact is
that if they don't book these weddings during the day,
they will go out of business.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Person,
Mr. Icarion stated that in being specific in terms of
dBAs, he would not be able to to specify an output
suitable for the entertainment proposed, but that if a
wedding were booked in the afternoon, the room where it
was to be held is so far removed from the windows that
about 99% of the noise would be deadened by the time it
got to the windows. The only room that would
accommodate a 3 or 4 piece band is the banquet room
which is.in the interior of the restaurant.
Mr. Rudder made a comment stating that one thing which
. speaks well for what is proposed is the fact that
several years ago when there was a public hearing for a
proposed golf course by the airport, the Council
Chambers was filled with people, concerned about the
fact of not being able to ride their horses around the
golf course, and that if. this request were a real
concern to neighbors, the Council Chambers would again
be filled with.concerned people.
Mr. Dan Wiseman, resident of 336 Hazel Drive, appeared
before the Commission. Mr. Wiseman attested to a fine
job A.T. Leo's has done. Mr. Wiseman further stated
that at the beginning, there was a considerable amount
of problems and a lot of publicity, but since that
time, the restaurant has not. been objectionable.
Mr. Wiseman suggested that weddings be booked on a
trial basis to see what kind of problems occur.
Commissioner Balalis stated if this request is to be
approved, then staff should get the figures which is
normally acceptable in other situations and to forget
for the moment that this is live music, and talk about
a level of noise that would be allowable at the
property lines. If this allowable noise, level is
violated, it would be a violation of the use permit.
• ! I I I I I I Therefore, it is up to the operators to decide what
I they have to do to provide the Commission with a level
of noise that is acceptable.
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microphone to his face and a microphone down on the
keys. There are two speakers, one to each side of him,
that play out toward the crowd.
Another aspect of this situation is that the restaurant
is not looking for dancing at night, but the fact is
that if they don't book these weddings during the day,
they will go out of business.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Person,
Mr. Icarion stated that in being specific in terms of
dBAs, he would not be able to to specify an output
suitable for the entertainment proposed, but that if a
wedding were booked in the afternoon, the room where it
was to be held is so far removed from the windows that
about 99% of the noise would be deadened by the time it
got to the windows. The only room that would
accommodate a 3 or 4 piece band is the banquet room
which is.in the interior of the restaurant.
Mr. Rudder made a comment stating that one thing which
. speaks well for what is proposed is the fact that
several years ago when there was a public hearing for a
proposed golf course by the airport, the Council
Chambers was filled with people, concerned about the
fact of not being able to ride their horses around the
golf course, and that if. this request were a real
concern to neighbors, the Council Chambers would again
be filled with.concerned people.
Mr. Dan Wiseman, resident of 336 Hazel Drive, appeared
before the Commission. Mr. Wiseman attested to a fine
job A.T. Leo's has done. Mr. Wiseman further stated
that at the beginning, there was a considerable amount
of problems and a lot of publicity, but since that
time, the restaurant has not. been objectionable.
Mr. Wiseman suggested that weddings be booked on a
trial basis to see what kind of problems occur.
Commissioner Balalis stated if this request is to be
approved, then staff should get the figures which is
normally acceptable in other situations and to forget
for the moment that this is live music, and talk about
a level of noise that would be allowable at the
property lines. If this allowable noise, level is
violated, it would be a violation of the use permit.
• ! I I I I I I Therefore, it is up to the operators to decide what
I they have to do to provide the Commission with a level
of noise that is acceptable.
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Mr. Wiseman stated that if this request is approved, he
would like the use permit put on a trial period.
Mr. Killifer .stated in representing the Shore Cliffs
Property Owners Association, he suggested that the
Commission support staff's recommendation for denial.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner
Kurlander, Mr. Webb stated that the time limitation for
a parcel map to be filed is within 3 years from the
time of the first meeting, unless extensions are asked
for.
Mr. Laycock stated that Condition No. 17 of the
original amended use permit, approved January 7, 1982,
stipulated that all conditions of approval for
Resubdivision No. 711 be fulfilled. One of the
conditions of Resubdivision No. 711 was that "a parcel
map be filed." Mr. Laycock further stated that if
approximately 40 parking spaces were eliminated then
approximately 1.,600 square feet of the floor area would
• I ( I I I I have to be eliminated, based upon one parking space for
each 40 square feet of "net floor area" in the
restaurant.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner
Winburn, Mr. Webb stated that as far as public safety
is, concerned, it would depend on whether or not the
restaurant became successful again. If there is going
to be only twenty cars in the restaurant parking lot,
then they will have plenty of room to park, but when
they try to park eighty or ninety cars in the narrower
spaces, it is felt that there would be a definite
problem. Mr. Gabriele added that the new condition
would cover the approval for trial basis.
Motion X Motion was made for approval of Use Permit No. 1965
(Amended), ,subject to the .Findings and Conditions of
Exhibit "C ", as amended by the Commission.
Ayes X x X X X X There being no other discussion, the motion was now
Abstain X voted on., which MOTION CARRIED.
FINDINGS:
1. That the addition of dancing and live entertainment
• in conjunction with private parties and banquets
will not adversely impact nearby residential uses
as long as said live entertainment occurs between
the hours of 11:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m.
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2. That the deletion of the valet parking during the
week nights .(Monday through Thursday, inclusive)
will.not adversely impact surrounding properties.
3. That, the subject restaurant is consistent with the
General Plan and the adopted Local Coastal Program,
Land Use Plan, and as conditioned is compatible
with surrounding land uses.
4. The approval of Use Permit No. 1965 (Amended) as
conditioned, will not, under the circumstances of
this case be detrimental to the health, safety,
peace, morals, comfort and general welfare of
persons residing and working in the neighborhood or
be detrimental or injurious to property and
improvements in the neighborhood or the general
welfare of the City.
CONDITIONS:
• 1. That development shall be in substantial
conformance with the approved plot plan, floor
plan, and elevations.
2. That dancing and live entertainment shall be
permitted only in conjunction with private parties
and banquets between the hours of 11:00 a.m. and
5:00 P.M. The use of a piano shall also be
permitted in the bar area at night..
3. That from Monday through Thursday, the requirement
for valet parking is waived. except when a party or
banquet is scheduled.
4. That Resubdivision No. 717 be recorded.
5. That a 10 -foot radius corner cutoff at the corner
of Hazel Drive and East Coast Highway be dedicated
to the public and that an encroachment permit be
obtained from the Public Works Department for the
.existing encroachments.
6. That all other applicable Conditions of Use Permit
No. 1965 (Amended) and Resubdivision No. 717 be
fulfilled.
• I I I I I I 7. That the Planning Commission may add and /or modify
Conditions of Approval to this use permit upon a
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2. That the deletion of the valet parking during the
week nights .(Monday through Thursday, inclusive)
will.not adversely impact surrounding properties.
3. That, the subject restaurant is consistent with the
General Plan and the adopted Local Coastal Program,
Land Use Plan, and as conditioned is compatible
with surrounding land uses.
4. The approval of Use Permit No. 1965 (Amended) as
conditioned, will not, under the circumstances of
this case be detrimental to the health, safety,
peace, morals, comfort and general welfare of
persons residing and working in the neighborhood or
be detrimental or injurious to property and
improvements in the neighborhood or the general
welfare of the City.
CONDITIONS:
• 1. That development shall be in substantial
conformance with the approved plot plan, floor
plan, and elevations.
2. That dancing and live entertainment shall be
permitted only in conjunction with private parties
and banquets between the hours of 11:00 a.m. and
5:00 P.M. The use of a piano shall also be
permitted in the bar area at night..
3. That from Monday through Thursday, the requirement
for valet parking is waived. except when a party or
banquet is scheduled.
4. That Resubdivision No. 717 be recorded.
5. That a 10 -foot radius corner cutoff at the corner
of Hazel Drive and East Coast Highway be dedicated
to the public and that an encroachment permit be
obtained from the Public Works Department for the
.existing encroachments.
6. That all other applicable Conditions of Use Permit
No. 1965 (Amended) and Resubdivision No. 717 be
fulfilled.
• I I I I I I 7. That the Planning Commission may add and /or modify
Conditions of Approval to this use permit upon a
determination that the operation which is the
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subject of this use permit causes injury, or is
detrimental, to the health, safety or welfare of
the community.
B. That the building be fully accessible to the
handicapped including the provision of the required
number of handicapped parking spaces.
9. That noise from the facility shall be confined to
the interior portions of the building and shall not
exceed 55 dBA at the property lines.
10. That the Planning Commission shall review the
issues of live entertainment and off - street parking
in conjunction with this application six months
from the date of this approval.
I I I I I I The Planning Commission recessed at 9:50 p.m. and
• reconvened at 10:00 p.m.
Request to amend a previously approved use permit which
permitted on -sale beer and wine and the expansion of
the Stuft Noodle. Restaurant. The proposed amendment is
to change the operational characteristics of the
restaurant so as to allow a lunch time operation during
the week whereas the existing use permit prohibits the
restaurant from operating before 5:00 p.m. during the
week.
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Request to waive the additional required off - street
parking spaces in conjunction with the requested lunch
operation for the Stuft Noodle Restaurant.
LOCATION: A portion of Lot.D. Tract No. 919 located
at 215 -217 Riverside Avenue, on the
northwesterly corner of Riverside Avenue
and Avon Street, across Avon Street from
the Post Office
ZONE: C -1 -H
• APPLICANT: Stuft Noodle Restaurant, Newport Beach
OWNER: Ms. Nelly Brandsma, Newport Beach.
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Item #10
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NO. 1677
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VARIANCE
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Staff suggested that these items be continued to the
September 8, 1983 Planning Commission Meeting as per
the request.of the applicant.
Motion was made to continue Use Permit No. 1677
(Amended) and Variance No. 1106, which MOTION CARRIED.
Request to establish a take -out ice -cream facility on Item #12
property located in Lido Marina Village in the C -1 -H
District. The proposal also includes a request to
waive a portion of the required off - street parking
spaces.
LOCATION: A portion of Lot No. 1, Tract No. 1235;
located at 3431 Via Oporto, on the
westerly side of Via Oporto, between Via
Lido and Central Avenue, in Lido Marina
Village
ZONE: C -1 -H
APPLICANT: Mcconnels.Enterprises, Laguna Beach
OWNER: Traweek Corp. Marina del Rey
USE PERMIT '
NO. 3049
Mr. David Moshure, Senior Commercial Property Manager APPROVED
representing Lido Marina Village, appeared before the CONDI-
Commission. Mr. Moshure stated that he has read the TIONALLY
staff report and concurs with the Findings and
Conditions of Approval.
In response to a question posed by Chairman King,
Mr. Laycock, Current Planning Administrator, stated
that the parking issue was discussed with the Fire
Chief, and the Traffic Affairs Committee has approved
some parking spaces in the alley adjacent to an
entrance of McConnels.
Commissioner Goff suggested that Condition No. 6 either
be elaborated on to some extent or deleted entirely.
Mr. Doug Dryer, owner of 3416 Via Lido and also a
partner in the German Home Bakery in Lido Marina
Village, appeared before the Commission. Mr. Dryer
stated that as a property owner, he is very much
concerned with the parking situation. Mr. Dryer
referred to The Warehouse Restaurant, Magic Island and
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Staff suggested that these items be continued to the
September 8, 1983 Planning Commission Meeting as per
the request.of the applicant.
Motion was made to continue Use Permit No. 1677
(Amended) and Variance No. 1106, which MOTION CARRIED.
Request to establish a take -out ice -cream facility on Item #12
property located in Lido Marina Village in the C -1 -H
District. The proposal also includes a request to
waive a portion of the required off - street parking
spaces.
LOCATION: A portion of Lot No. 1, Tract No. 1235;
located at 3431 Via Oporto, on the
westerly side of Via Oporto, between Via
Lido and Central Avenue, in Lido Marina
Village
ZONE: C -1 -H
APPLICANT: Mcconnels.Enterprises, Laguna Beach
OWNER: Traweek Corp. Marina del Rey
USE PERMIT '
NO. 3049
Mr. David Moshure, Senior Commercial Property Manager APPROVED
representing Lido Marina Village, appeared before the CONDI-
Commission. Mr. Moshure stated that he has read the TIONALLY
staff report and concurs with the Findings and
Conditions of Approval.
In response to a question posed by Chairman King,
Mr. Laycock, Current Planning Administrator, stated
that the parking issue was discussed with the Fire
Chief, and the Traffic Affairs Committee has approved
some parking spaces in the alley adjacent to an
entrance of McConnels.
Commissioner Goff suggested that Condition No. 6 either
be elaborated on to some extent or deleted entirely.
Mr. Doug Dryer, owner of 3416 Via Lido and also a
partner in the German Home Bakery in Lido Marina
Village, appeared before the Commission. Mr. Dryer
stated that as a property owner, he is very much
concerned with the parking situation. Mr. Dryer
referred to The Warehouse Restaurant, Magic Island and
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George's Camelot as examples of the parking problems
FINDINGS:
1. That the proposed development is consistent with
the Land Use Element of the General Plan and the
adopted Local Costal Program Land Use Plan, and is
compatible with surrounding land uses.
2. The project will not have any significant
environmental impact.
3. That the waiver of the development standards as
they pertain to parking, circulation, walls,
landscaping,. parking lot .illumination, and
utilities, will be of no further detriment to
adjacent properties inasmuch as the site has been
developed and the structures have been in
existence for many years.
4. That the proposed use does not represent an
intensification of use that will result in an
increased parking demand for the area.
• I I I I I 5. The Police Department has indicated that they do
not contemplate any problems.
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that Lido Marina Village has had in the past. Mr.
Dryer referred to the private alley that is called out
as a restricted fire lane. The private alley has
always been a problem because, being private property,
it is not subject to City control and there is no
ticketing. Mr. Dryer further stated that his concern
is that of his property because if there is ever a
severe fire, a fire engine would never be able to get
in the alley.
Motion
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Motion was made for approval of Use Permit No. 3049,
subject to the Findings and Conditions in Exhibit "A ".
Amendment
Commissioner Goff asked if the maker of the motion
would accept an amendment to the motion, that the
words, "or other approved items ", be deleted from
Condition No. 6. Commissioner McLaughlin accepted the
Accepted
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now voted on, which MOTION CARRIED.
FINDINGS:
1. That the proposed development is consistent with
the Land Use Element of the General Plan and the
adopted Local Costal Program Land Use Plan, and is
compatible with surrounding land uses.
2. The project will not have any significant
environmental impact.
3. That the waiver of the development standards as
they pertain to parking, circulation, walls,
landscaping,. parking lot .illumination, and
utilities, will be of no further detriment to
adjacent properties inasmuch as the site has been
developed and the structures have been in
existence for many years.
4. That the proposed use does not represent an
intensification of use that will result in an
increased parking demand for the area.
• I I I I I 5. The Police Department has indicated that they do
not contemplate any problems.
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detrimental to the health, safety, peace, morals,
comfort and. general welfare of persons residing .
and working in the neighborhood or be detrimental
or injurious to property and improvements in the
neighborhood or the general welfare of the City.
CONDITIONS:
1. That development shall be in substantial
conformance with the approved plot plan and floor
plans.
2. That the development standards related to a
portion of the required off - street parking spaces,
circulation, walls, landscaping, parking lot
illumination and utility requirements are waived.
3. That all exterior signs shall conform to Chapter
20.06 of the Newport Beach Municipal Code.
• 4. That a trash compactor shall be installed in
conjunction with the proposed use.
5. That all mechanical equipment shall be screened
from adjacent properties and from Via Oporto.
6. That no cooking, or any food preparation other
than ice - cream, or related products, shall be
permitted in the take -out restaurant facility
unless an amended use permit is approved by the
City at a later date. , Said amendment could
require the addition of kitchen exhaust fans,
washout areas for trash containers, and grease
interceptors.
7. That the premises and the sidewalk on Via Oporto
shall be kept clear and regularly maintained.
8. That trash receptacles for patrons shall be
provided in convenient locations inside and
outside the building.
9. That all trash, including compacted trash bags and
recyclable containers, shall be stored within the
building until they are to be picked up:
• I I I 1 j I I I 10. That this approval shall be for a period of two
years, and any extension shall be subject to
approval by the Modifications Committee.
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determination that the operation
subject of this use permit, causes
detrimental, to the health, safety
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Request to establish a restaurant facility with on -sale Item #13
beer and wine in the C -1 District. USE PERMIT
NO. 3056
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Request to waive all the required off - street parking Item #14
spaces in conjunction with a request to establish a new VARIANCE
restaurant in the C -1 District. NO. 1105
LOCATION: Lot 3, Block 11, Section 4, Balboa Island
Tract,, located at 204 Marine Avenue, on
• the easterly side of Marine Avenue,
between Park Avenue and Balboa Avenue, on
Balboa Island.
ZONE: C -1
APPLICANT: Frank's Market, Santa Ana
OWNER: Myrtle M. Huycke Family Trust,
Laguna Beach
Staff suggested that these items be continued to. the Continued
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Motion X Motion was' made to continue Use Permit No. 3056 and A II
Ail Ayes X X X X X Variance No. 1105, which MOTION CARRIED.
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residential condominium development and related carport USE PERMIT
parking spaces in the R -4 District and the acceptance of NO. 3057
an environmental document.
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• Request to subdivide five existing lots and portions of Item #16.
vacated Cypress Street and vacated Bay Avenue into one TENTATIVE
lot for residential condominium development. MAP OF
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NO. 12035
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LOCATION:
Lots 14 -18, Block 2, Balboa Bayside
Tract,
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located at 406 East Bay Avenue,
on the
Motion was made to continue Use Permit No. 3057 and
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ZONE:
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APPLICANT:
Wale Development Corp., Irvine
OWNER:
James D. El1,is,'Balboa
ENGINEER:
Don Greek and Associates; Orange
Staff suggested that these items be continued to the
September 8, 1983 Planning Commission Meeting as per
the request of the applicant.
Motion
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Motion was made to continue Use Permit No. 3057 and
All Ayes
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Tentative Map of Tract. No. 12035, which MOTION CARRIED.
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Request to revise a previously approved Tentative Map 'Item #17
of Tract No. 10814 which permitted the creation of
three lots for condominium purposes in conjunction with
a 32 unit residential condominium development in the
Big Canyon Planned Community. The proposed revision is
to create 21 numbered lots for single family
residential purposes; one numbered lot for private
recreational purposes; and two lettered lots for
private street purposes.
LOCATION: A portion of Blocks 55, 56, and 93 of the TENTATIVE
Irvine's subdivision, located on the MAP OF
northerly side of San Joaquin Hills Road TRACT
between Jamboree Road and MacArthur NO. 10814
Boulevard, in the Big Canyon Planned,
Community
ZONE: P -C
APPLICANT: The Irvine Company, Newport Beach
..OWNER: Same as Applicant Continued
to Septem-
. Staff suggested that this, item be continued to the ber 8 1983
September 8, 1983 Planning. Commission Meeting as per
the request of the applicant.
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Motion Motion was made to continue Tentative Map of Tract
All Ayes X X X.X X No. 10814 (Revised), which MOTION CARRIED.
Resquest to permit the construction of two price signs
where the Code limits automobile service stations to
one price sign. The proposal also includes a
modification to the Zoning 'Code so as to allow each
price sign to exceed the maximum allowable 8 square
feet for each sign.
LOCATION: Parcel No. 1 of .Parcel Map No. 82 -719
(Resubdivision No. 681), located at 2121
Bristol Street, on the southwesterly
corner of Bristol Street and Irvine
Avenue, adjacent to the Santa Ana Heights
area.
ZONE: C -1 -H
• APPLICANT: Exxon Company, U.S.A., Long Beach
OWNER: Same as Applicant
Mr. Ralph Barahis, representing the Exxon Company, Long
Beach, appeared before the Commission. Mr. Barahis
stated that in reviewing the staff report, they do
agree with staff's recommendations. It is felt by the
Exxon Company that they need an additional sign to call
up the fact that they do offer a cash discount for
their products.
In response to a question posed by Chairman King,
Mr. Barahis stated that the cash sign would be
identifying two products to comply with the State.
regulation. The lower of the two signs would be in
compliance with the State regulations which would list
all four products.that Exxon plans to sell.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner Goff,
Mr. Laycock, Current Planning Administrator, stated
that other gas stations that have more than one price
sign have probably added them on their own without the
knowledge of the City and no one has complained about
them. Mr. Laycock further stated that the City
. Ordinance is in conflict with State Regulations and the
City should change the wording of the Sign Ordinance.
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Item #18
EXCEPTION
NO. 12
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In response to a question posed by Commissioner Goff,
Mr. Barahis stated that he doesn't believe that
displaying the cash discount is a requirement of the
State, but in. any case it would be a disadvantage to
Exxon if their request were not approved because the
other gas stations that are presently posting cash
discounts signs will get all of the customers.
Amendment X Commissioner Goff suggested an amendment to the motion,
stating that, "In no event shall the signage ever
exceed any future requirements that the City of Newport
Beach will place within the Sign Ordinance for
automobile service stations." The maker of the motion
Accepted X accepted the amendment.
All Ayes . 11 XI XI X IX IX IX I There being no . further discussion motion for approval
was now voted on, which MOTION CARRIED.
FINDINGS:
1. That the granting of an exception permit for the
area and number of price signs. proposed is
necessary to protect a substantial property right,
will not be contrary to the purpose of Sign
Ordinance and will not be materially detrimental to
the health, safety, comfort or general welfare of
persons residing in the neighborhood, or
I I I ( I I detrimental or injurious to property or
improvements in the neighborhood, or to the general
welfare of the City.
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Mr. Bill Myers, Exxon - Marketing Area, appeared before
the Commission. Mr. Myers stated that when Exxon
originally applied to rebuild this particular location,
it was requested that the Exxon standard design be put
up. Mr. Myers shared with the Commission pictures of
the gas station as it appears today and how it is
proposed to appear. Mr. Myers further stated that
there are no Exxon signs between the poles, but that
the only signs that exist in this location are signs at
the end of the columns, one which reads, "Self", and
the other which reads, "Full ". There is no sign on the
building, except for an information sign which reads,
"Air and Water", which is the extent of the business
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that was agreed to initially.
Motion
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Motion was made for., approval of Exception Permit
No. 12, subject to the Findings and Conditions in
Exhibit "A ".
Amendment X Commissioner Goff suggested an amendment to the motion,
stating that, "In no event shall the signage ever
exceed any future requirements that the City of Newport
Beach will place within the Sign Ordinance for
automobile service stations." The maker of the motion
Accepted X accepted the amendment.
All Ayes . 11 XI XI X IX IX IX I There being no . further discussion motion for approval
was now voted on, which MOTION CARRIED.
FINDINGS:
1. That the granting of an exception permit for the
area and number of price signs. proposed is
necessary to protect a substantial property right,
will not be contrary to the purpose of Sign
Ordinance and will not be materially detrimental to
the health, safety, comfort or general welfare of
persons residing in the neighborhood, or
I I I ( I I detrimental or injurious to property or
improvements in the neighborhood, or to the general
welfare of the City.
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2. That the proposed price signs are tastefully
designed and are compatible with the building
architecture and other signs on the property.
3. That the size of the proposed price signs are the
minimum size allowed by the State's price sign
standards for automobile service stations and that
the granting of a modification to allow said signs
to exceed 8 square feet is consistent with the
intent of the.Sign Ordinance of the City of Newport
Beach.
CONDITIONS:
1. That development shall be in substantial
conformance with the approved plot plan, and sign
elevations.
2. That all previous applicable conditions of approval
for Use Permit No. 3010 shall be fulfilled.
3. That this approval is to allow one 20 square. foot
"Credit" price sign and one 22 square foot "Cash
Only" price sign. All other signs on the subject
property shall comply with the Sign Ordinance of
the City of Newport Beach. .
4. In no event shall the signage ever exceed any
future requirements that the City of Newport Beach
will place within the Sign Ordinance for automobile
service stations.
Proposed revisions to the Administrative Guidelines for
the implementation of the provisions of State Law
relative to low and moderate income housing within the
Coastal Zone.
INITIATED
BY: The City of Newport Beach
Proposed revisions to Council Policy P -1 were reviewed
by the Planning Commission, and its recommendations
will be discussed by staff. at the City Council meeting
of August 22, 1983.
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2. That the proposed price signs are tastefully
designed and are compatible with the building
architecture and other signs on the property.
3. That the size of the proposed price signs are the
minimum size allowed by the State's price sign
standards for automobile service stations and that
the granting of a modification to allow said signs
to exceed 8 square feet is consistent with the
intent of the.Sign Ordinance of the City of Newport
Beach.
CONDITIONS:
1. That development shall be in substantial
conformance with the approved plot plan, and sign
elevations.
2. That all previous applicable conditions of approval
for Use Permit No. 3010 shall be fulfilled.
3. That this approval is to allow one 20 square. foot
"Credit" price sign and one 22 square foot "Cash
Only" price sign. All other signs on the subject
property shall comply with the Sign Ordinance of
the City of Newport Beach. .
4. In no event shall the signage ever exceed any
future requirements that the City of Newport Beach
will place within the Sign Ordinance for automobile
service stations.
Proposed revisions to the Administrative Guidelines for
the implementation of the provisions of State Law
relative to low and moderate income housing within the
Coastal Zone.
INITIATED
BY: The City of Newport Beach
Proposed revisions to Council Policy P -1 were reviewed
by the Planning Commission, and its recommendations
will be discussed by staff. at the City Council meeting
of August 22, 1983.
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Reports from Ad Hoc Committees:
There was discussion on the Recreation and Open Space
Element Review stating that there was a meeting between
members of SPON and Planning Assist, in which
Commissioner Goff attended. The meeting was primarily
to review with SPON the :items that were reviewed with
the Ad Hoc Committee earlier.
There was discussion on the Solid Waste Program where
the committee toured the Fountain Valley Plant at the
last meeting and elected officers. The next meeting
will be Tuesday, August 23, 1983 where the committee
will tour the Huntington Beach Plant to familiarize
themselves with the operation and how they handle
sewage.
• There was discussion on Mariners' Mile stating that
they had two meetings. The committee toured the
Mariners' Mile. area and climbed up and down the hills
to see the problems pertaining to Avon Street. At the
last meeting, the committee received all the
information of all the reports since 1972 which
includes the one -way couplet of Avon Street and Santa
Ana Avenue. The next meeting is .scheduled for the
third week in September.
Motion X Motion was made to reconsider the Planning Commission
All Ayes X X X X X X action of Use Permit No. 1778 (Amended), Hemingway's
Restaurant, at the Planning Commission Meeting of
September 22, 1983 - 6 Ayes, 1 Abstain
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There being no further business, the Planning.
Commission adjourned at 11:40 p.m.
James Person, Secretary
City of Newport Beach
Planning Department
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