HomeMy WebLinkAbout08/19/1982 (2)�MMISJIUIVtKS ADJOURNED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - MINUTES
PLACE: City Council Chambers
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All Present.
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STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT:
James D. Hewicker, Planning Director -
Robert P. Lenard, Advance Planning Administrator
Patricia L. Temple, Senior Planner -
Donald Webb, City Engineer
Nancy M. Alvidrez, Steno Clerk
SUBJECT: Data Analysis of West Newport Study Area
(Public Hearing)
1* I I I I Analysis of existing and permitted land
uses in the West Newport Study Area.
LOCATION: Properties generally bounded by West
Coast Highway, Newport Boulevard, 16th
Street and Newport Crest /Banning.
ZONE: M -1 -A, A -P -H, C -2, R -3 and Unclassified
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Mr. Lenard, Advance Planning Administrator, stated that
this matter was first suggested by the City Council in
December of 1981. The Council requested that Planning _
Department Staff review the specific area plan
priorities with the Planning Commission and report back
to the City Council with recommendations. in February
of 1982 the Planning Commission requested time
estimates for compilation of basic data with respect to
projected and permitted land uses in all specific plan
areas. In March of 1982 these time estimates were
presented to the Commission and tentative priorities
established. On June 10, 1982, the Planning Commission
reviewed the land use survey for.the West Newport Study .
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Mr. Hewicker, Planning Director, pointed out that some
of the development figures are rather high and
cautioned anyone using them that they are based on
zoning district intensity limits and do not take in to
consideration the physical constraints on the
development of these properties. He stated that the
City has not attempted to quantify what the actual
development potential of the area is. Mr. Hewicker
also pointed out that the figures in the Traffic Model
are figures that the Planning Department Staff provided
for input to the Model and not figures taken out of the
Model.
Don Webb, City Engineer, stated that at the time Staff
was trying to put the Traffic Model information
together the trends of development in various areas of
the City were utilized to arrive at a realistic
projection.
Mr. Dick Clucas, resident of 4403 Seashore and
President of West Newport Beach Association, stated
that the traffic circulation system revolves around the
capability of Pacific Coast Highway and Newport
Boulevard to handle the in and out traffic that comes
to and from that area.
Mr. Clucas recommended that the residential area in the
West Newport Triangle be retained as a residential
area. He stated that there is a substantial density of
offices and hospitals in that area, including the
Hughes property which is being substantially expanded.
The Park Lido Medical Facility has been approved for
substantial expansion and offices are also approved
for Heritage Bank on the corner of Superior and
Placentia. He stated that the traffic impact caused by
an office facility is approximately twice that of a
manufacturing use.
Mr. Clucas stated that the alternative of specifically
permitting office uses in the M -1 -A area should be
eliminated and replaced as a light industrial area
which does not create the traffic impact of offices.
Therefore, Mr. Clucas recommended that no more than the
0.5 per buildable acre be used which would allow less
density and create less traffic problems.
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Commissioner Balalis stated that the residential area
that Mr. Clucas referred to is planned for 20 units to
the acre. He stated that at the time this area was
annexed by the City, the people did not want to join
the City unless they retained the same buildable rights
they had with the County. He added that the City has a
moral obligation to retain the permitted 20 units to,
the acre at this location.
Mr. Hewicker stated that the City annexed the property
with the uses and the intensities generally. permitted
by the County. Otherwise, the Board of supervisors
would not have allowed the annexation to take place and
the area would still be a county island. This also
applies to the commercial and industrial areas of the
Triangle.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner
Balalis, Mr. Hewicker stated that when the commercial
and office development were annexed, a maximum
intensity of 1.0 was included in the General Plan
Amendment, which is a lower floor area ratio than other
areas of the City, and this did not meet with any
opposition. He also stated that the County Triangle is
currently zoned Unclassified.
Commissioner Balalis asked if this commitment would
ever preclude the City from changing the intensity of
development. Mr. Hewicker stated that the commitment
is between the City and the individual property owners
who had great reluctance when the City annexed the
County Triangle. He stated that any changes in
intensity which would be considered should be reviewed
with the annexation agreements in mind.
In response to a question .posed by Commissioner
McLaughlin, Mr. Hewicker, stated that the City has the
right to study and review the entire area, including
the County Triangle area.
Commissioner Allen stated that the property in the
County Triangle is currently zoned Unclassified. She
expressed her concern that changing the M -1 -A District
would also affect other M -1 -A areas within the City.
Mr. Hewicker stated that the floor area ratios could be
• added to the M -1 -A designation, such as M- 1 -A -0.5 or
M -1 -A -0.35, for specific pieces of property in the
City. In this way, changing one M -1 -A District in the
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City would not necessarily be changing the other M -1 -A
Districts. Additionally, there are only two areas
zoned M -1 -A,, the area currently under discussion and
the Campus Drive area.
Commissioner Winburn asked when a parking structure
becomes a part of the calculated structural area on a
piece of property. Mr. Hewicker stated that commercial
zones, industrial zones and even some of the .
multi - family zones do not include parking as a part of
the floor area ratio. He stated that there have been
discussions of including parking structures as a part
of the floor area ratio because they increase the
intensity of the use on the site. However, he stated
that parking structures are not a visual impedement if
they are subterranean. He stated that he has also
heard discussions that surface parking also be
included.
Chairman King stated that subterranean parking allows
• for an increase in the bulk above the surface.
Therefore, an amendment to require inclusion of parking
areas in floor area ratio calculations should include
subterranean parking structures.
Commissioner. Balalis stated that the City has not had
too many underground parking facilities in the past.
Developments are required to provide one parking space
for every 250 square feet, which in the past
automatically affected the floor area ratio because
surface parking was provided.
Ms. Louise Greeley, from the Board of Newport Crest
Homeowners Association, stated that the Association
supports Mr. Clucas' recommendation that no more than a
floor area ratio of 0.5 be seriously considered. She
expressed her concern that high -rise parking structures
create visual pollution. She further expressed her
concerns relating to the granting of variances for
lesser setbacks and greater heights.
Ms. Jan DeBay, resident of Seashore Drive and Officer
of the West Newport Beach Association expressed her
concern that developers are squeezing the absolute
maximum densities on their properties. She stated that
• this creates inadequate traffic circulation and impacts
the community as a whole.
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Mr. Hewicker stated that the General Plan and the
Traffic Phasing Ordinance are used to evaluate proposed
projects relative to traffic and circulation system
impacts. Thus, when a new project comes in they are
required not only to look at the existing development
on the ground but the committed projects that have
already been approved and the various years when they_
will be coming on line. The one thing that the Traffic
Phasing Ordinance does not include, of course, are
commercial projects of less than 10,000 square feet and
residential projects of less than 10 dwelling units.
Additionally, Mr. Hewicker pointed out that in respect
to the Traffic Phasing Ordinance, he believes there
should be either a change in the ordinance or a change
in the Council Policy which administers the
implementation of the ordinance relative to the fact
that once a project is approved by the Planning
Commission and /or the City Council it is then
considered forever as a committed project. Chairman
King recommended that Mr. Hewicker's suggestion be
further studied.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner
McLaughlin, Mr. Hewicker stated that when an applicant
obtains a variance, modification, use permit, or
tentative map, they are required under law to exercise
that right to develop within a specific time period.
If they do not exercise that right, they loose that
right. However, he stated that once a project has gone
through the Traffic Phasing Ordinance, it is on the
books forever.
Commissioner Balalis stated that if a project was
approved and passed through the Traffic Phasing
Ordinance, he couldn't perceive how it could be kept on
the books once that project's primary approval of a use
permit or tentative map expires.
Mr. Hewicker replied by stating that there might not be
a use permit or tentative map involved. For example, a
15,000 square foot office building where there is no
discretionary approval required, except a traffic
study, can stay on. the list of approved projects. If
it has another discretionary approval, i.e. a use
• permit, the approval would lapse in terms of the use
permit but not lapse in terms of the traffic phasing
study. Mr. Hewicker further stated that an amendment
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Mr. Hewicker stated that the General Plan and the
Traffic Phasing Ordinance are used to evaluate proposed
projects relative to traffic and circulation system
impacts. Thus, when a new project comes in they are
required not only to look at the existing development
on the ground but the committed projects that have
already been approved and the various years when they_
will be coming on line. The one thing that the Traffic
Phasing Ordinance does not include, of course, are
commercial projects of less than 10,000 square feet and
residential projects of less than 10 dwelling units.
Additionally, Mr. Hewicker pointed out that in respect
to the Traffic Phasing Ordinance, he believes there
should be either a change in the ordinance or a change
in the Council Policy which administers the
implementation of the ordinance relative to the fact
that once a project is approved by the Planning
Commission and /or the City Council it is then
considered forever as a committed project. Chairman
King recommended that Mr. Hewicker's suggestion be
further studied.
In response to a question posed by Commissioner
McLaughlin, Mr. Hewicker stated that when an applicant
obtains a variance, modification, use permit, or
tentative map, they are required under law to exercise
that right to develop within a specific time period.
If they do not exercise that right, they loose that
right. However, he stated that once a project has gone
through the Traffic Phasing Ordinance, it is on the
books forever.
Commissioner Balalis stated that if a project was
approved and passed through the Traffic Phasing
Ordinance, he couldn't perceive how it could be kept on
the books once that project's primary approval of a use
permit or tentative map expires.
Mr. Hewicker replied by stating that there might not be
a use permit or tentative map involved. For example, a
15,000 square foot office building where there is no
discretionary approval required, except a traffic
study, can stay on. the list of approved projects. If
it has another discretionary approval, i.e. a use
• permit, the approval would lapse in terms of the use
permit but not lapse in terms of the traffic phasing
study. Mr. Hewicker further stated that an amendment
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to the Traffic Phasing Ordinance establishing a time
limit on approval should be considered.
Commissioner Allen stated that in the situation of Park
Lido, where only a traffic study was approved, the
approval has no time limit on it. Conceivably,. the
property owner of Park Lido now has a traffic study,
approval to allow development of a building at a given
size for a certain number of square feet forever. We
could consider a time limit on traffic study's similar
to those on a tentative tract map or on a use permit so
we wouldn't have to carry things on the books forever
as committed projects. Commissioner Allen further
stated that another problem of the ordinance is that
the more committed projects there are, the easier it is
to pass the ordinance because the easier it is to get
under the 1% impact at an intersection.
Commissioner Balalis stated that the City has looked
for ways to provide housing for its elder citizens and
• persons of various incomes. He suggested. that the
industrial areas around the Production Place area could
be modified and identified for this type of housing.
He asked Mrs. Greeley if this would be acceptable to
her neighborhood?
Mrs. Greeley replied by saying that one of the things
that was recommended very vigorously on the Banning
Property was a housing mix so that a certain portion of
it could be developed at a greater density to provide
affordable housing.
Mr. Hewicker stated that in order to provide some
degree of affordability, it takes a minimum density of
20 dwelling units per acre.
Commissioner Balalis stated that there are already
properties that are zoned 20 units to the acre, but
those properties by no means are considered affordable.
You can't just say that today you're going to rezone
the property to 20 units to the acre and expect it to
be affordable. There are areas in the Triangle right
now that 2 years ago were affordable, but the moment
that they thought they could sell them for condominiums
at 20 units to the acre, prices went up. Certainly 20
. to 22 units to the acre is appropriate if you are going
to have two bedrooms or 21� bedrooms, but if you are
talking about smaller units such as 450 or 500 square
feet for elderly then 30 units to the acre may be
feasible.
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to the Traffic Phasing Ordinance establishing a time
limit on approval should be considered.
Commissioner Allen stated that in the situation of Park
Lido, where only a traffic study was approved, the
approval has no time limit on it. Conceivably,. the
property owner of Park Lido now has a traffic study,
approval to allow development of a building at a given
size for a certain number of square feet forever. We
could consider a time limit on traffic study's similar
to those on a tentative tract map or on a use permit so
we wouldn't have to carry things on the books forever
as committed projects. Commissioner Allen further
stated that another problem of the ordinance is that
the more committed projects there are, the easier it is
to pass the ordinance because the easier it is to get
under the 1% impact at an intersection.
Commissioner Balalis stated that the City has looked
for ways to provide housing for its elder citizens and
• persons of various incomes. He suggested. that the
industrial areas around the Production Place area could
be modified and identified for this type of housing.
He asked Mrs. Greeley if this would be acceptable to
her neighborhood?
Mrs. Greeley replied by saying that one of the things
that was recommended very vigorously on the Banning
Property was a housing mix so that a certain portion of
it could be developed at a greater density to provide
affordable housing.
Mr. Hewicker stated that in order to provide some
degree of affordability, it takes a minimum density of
20 dwelling units per acre.
Commissioner Balalis stated that there are already
properties that are zoned 20 units to the acre, but
those properties by no means are considered affordable.
You can't just say that today you're going to rezone
the property to 20 units to the acre and expect it to
be affordable. There are areas in the Triangle right
now that 2 years ago were affordable, but the moment
that they thought they could sell them for condominiums
at 20 units to the acre, prices went up. Certainly 20
. to 22 units to the acre is appropriate if you are going
to have two bedrooms or 21� bedrooms, but if you are
talking about smaller units such as 450 or 500 square
feet for elderly then 30 units to the acre may be
feasible.
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Mr. Clucas stated that there is a substantially lower
traffic pattern for a senior citizen facility than
there is for regular residences. if that were the
case, it would make that kind of a unit much more
acceptable in terms of higher density than something
else. Mr. Clucas further stated that he thinks that
because of the substantially different traffic pattern.,
for senior citizen housing this would be an acceptable
alternative for the area surrounding the emergency
facilities of Hoag Hospital.
Commissioner Allen stated that a 600 square foot senior
citizen unit occupied by one or two people is
considered a dwelling unit and is calculated as a
dwelling unit per acre basis. She stated that a 3
bedroom condominium is also calculated on the dwelling
unit per acre basis, yet the two types do not have the
same traffic patterns.
Commission Allen asked Mr. Clucas if the people who
• live in the west Newport area are concerned about
things like the size, the bulk of the building, the
traffic it generates, and the number of occupants that
it has, or do you think that we are so 'entrenched in
the dwelling unit per acre, that we are always going to
be talking numbers?
Mr. Clucas stated that his guess would be that the
people of that area are primarily concerned with the
traffic that is generated by a unit. He believes that
the people in his area are: 1) concerned with traffic,
2) concerned with the visual impact in the area, 3)
concerned with the air quality, and 4) concerned with
the use of the airport.
Commissioner Balalis asked .Mr. Clucas if the City
should increase densities in some areas and also asked
if the M -1 -A owners should have the opportunity to
convert their properties to office space. He stated
that the City is faced with providing some type of
alternative housing. He suggested that Mr. Clucas
respond to those questions at the next meeting on this
issue. Commissioner Balalis stated that both senior
citizen housing as well as other types of housing
should be considered.
• ! ( I I I I I Chairman King stated that the staff report has tried to
I demonstrate that the zoning will permit certain numbers
of units to be built, given certain situations. He
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stated that the Planning Commission will attempt to
come up with zoning which will be more realistic in
terms of what a certain area can handle. He stated
that it is possible to build affordable or entry level
housing within the City and that with the input of the
citizens and the assistance of Staff, the Commission
will achieve this goal.
Sandy Wilford, resident of 14 Balboa Coves, speaking
for Bill McLaughlin, addressed the Commission regarding
what used to be the Jimmy Cagney property. He stated
that if this property is developed by Hoag Hospital,
the traffic may then empty onto Hospital Road, which
will only increase the traffic in the area. He stated
that even though this parcel is not in the study area
it will have a peripheral impact on the traffic in the
Hospital Road area, and should be taken into
consideration.
Planning Director Hewicker stated that CalTrans East
site is currently leased by the City and then
• subleased, and is designated as Open Space on the
City's General Plan. It is zoned Unclassified because
of the possibility that Hoag Hospital could purchase
the site from the State.
Commissioner Allen said that as we look at the
possibility of a 0.5 density, there is. a significant
difference between the traffic generated by a light
industrial area and the traffic generated by an office.
The difference between 13 -14 trips vs. 7 trips is
almost twice as much.
Commissioner Balalis stated that in an industrial area
you basically have about a 258 land coverage, whereas
in an office area you can start at O.5.because of the
two story concept.
There being no additional public comments Chairman King
closed the public hearing asking that another public
hearing on this item be put on the calendar for the
Regular Planning Commission Meeting of October 7, 1982.
• 11111111 Meeting adjourned at 3:25 p.m.