HomeMy WebLinkAbout08/29/1974COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
\7, *1 Adjourned Planning Commission Meeting
Place: City Council Chambers MINUTES
Time: 7:00 p.m.
rAftrAu m Date: August 29, 1974
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EX- OFFICIO MEMBERS
R. V. Hogan, Community Development Director
David R. Baade, Assistant City Attorney
STAFF MEMBERS
James D. Hewicker, Assistant Director - Planning
Tim Cowell, Advance Planning Administrator
Joanne Bader, Secretary
Item #1
Final.
Request approval of the Final Map of Tentative..
Map Tract No. 8638, establishing one lot with
area of 1.226 acres where six lots now
Map
Tract
exist so as to permit the conversion of six
8638
apartment buildings into a 36 -unit condominium
development..
Approved
Location: Lots 2 through 7 of Tract 3606,
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located at 1184 -1256 Rutland
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Road, on the east side of
Rutland Road, between Mariners Drive
and Bedford Lane, in Westcliff.
Zone: R -3
Applicant: R. M. Galloway & Associates, Inc.,
Newport Beach
Owner: Rutland Newport Beach Company,
c/o United Professional. Planning,
Sherman Oaks
Engineer: Same as Applicant
Community Development Director Hogan informed the
Commission that the applicant has complied with
the conditions of.the tentative tract map and
that the covenants and conditions are now under
review by the City Attorney's Office and the
Community Development Department and when they
are found to be satisfactory will be approved.
He then informed the Commission that the staff
recommends approval of the final tract map.
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R. Burrows, applicant, appeared before the
Planning Commission and answered questions
regarding the request.
Ed Clean, 1228 Rutland Road, appeared before
the Planning Commission and stated that he
feels the apartment is deeply in need of repair
and then in detail discussed the particular
items which he feels needs repair or replacement.
He brought particular attention to the thinness
of the walls. He stated that there is only
one car port alloted for each apartment which
results in two -car families having to park in
the street. He discussed the theft and vandalism
rate of the area with the Commission and stated
that since this proposal approximately 1/3 of the
tenants have moved out with more to follow.
He stated that most of the people who live in
these apartments are senior citizens who no
longer care for the responsibility of home owner-
ship. Mr. Clean felt that these apartments
should not be sold as condominiums in their
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present condition.
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Following discussion, motion was made for
approval of Final Tract Map 8638, subject to
staff approval of C.C. & R.'s.
Harvey Rosen, partner to Mr. Burrows, appeared
before the Planning Commission and stated that
the C.C. & R.'s provide for professional
management and the Department of Real Estate
requires that substantial budgets be allocated
for plumbing repair, electrical repair, roofing
repair, painting, heating, pool, etc: Me. Rosen
felt that because of this, condominiums are
better run than single family tracts. He then
discussed the repairs and replacements that they
are planning to make to the apartment.
Planning Commission discussed the depth at
which the City Inspector inspected the apartment.
Community Development Director Hogan explained
that inspection is mainly limited to what can be
seen from the outside of the building and that
access could not be taken to each and every
apartment nor could we ascertain the condition
of the electrical and plumbing facilities which
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would require dismantlement of the walls.
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Location: Lot 2, Tract 8073, located at
939 Bayside Drive, on the
southerly side of Bayside Drive,
westerly of Marine Avenue.
Zone: R -3
Applicant: The Irvine Co., dba, Irvine Pacific
Development Co., Newport Beach
Owner: The Irvine Company, Newport Beach
Appellant: Same as Applicant
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the meeting of September 19, 1974 per the
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Item #3
Request to permit the construction of drive -in Use Per -.
banking facilities in conjunction with a miT-
proposed savings and loan building. 1733
Location: Lots 26 through 30, Tract 1210, Approved
located at 900 West Coast Highway, Condi-
on the northerly side of West tionally
Coast Highway, westerly of Dover
Drive, across West Coast Highway
from the Balboa Bay Club.
Zone: C -1 -H
Applicant: Newport Savings & Loan, Newport
Beach
Owner: Tract No. 1210 Limited, Newport
Beach
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Amended motion for approval of Final Tract
Map 8638 subject to the conditions as they were
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originally approved on the Tentative Map.
Item #2
Request approval of a modification that was M
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denied by the Modifications Committee so as to c
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to encroach 4 feet 6 inches into the required.
10 foot rear yard setback (i.e., Balboa Island C
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Community Development Director Hogan clarified
that the only thing of issue is the drive -in
facility and that the rest of the savings and
loan facility is a permitted use in the district
and that the staff recommends approval:
Planning Commission discussed staff recommendation
No. 2 which states:
"That the maximum total sign area for
all signs (excluding convenience signs)
shall not exceed 60 square feet. As
set forth in the proposed sign ordinance,
the area of double faced signs is
counted as the area of one face."
Planning Commission discussed whether it is
appropriate to condition approval of anything
on standards which have not yet been adopted.
Public hearing was opened in connection with
this matter and George Hoelzel, President of
Newport Savings, appeared before the Planning
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Commission and enounced.that they can and will
comply with all the recommendations as made by
staff and that he did not feel these conditions
would be detrimental to business.
Planning Commission discussed the proposed
landscaping for the site and parking.
There being no others desiring to appear and
be heard, the public hearing was closed.
Motion
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Motion that Use Permit 1733 be approved subject
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to the following conditions:
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1. That development shall be in substantial
conformance with the approved plot plan
and elevations.
2. That the maximum total sign area for all signs
(excluding convenience signs) shall not
exceed 60 square feet. As set forth in
the proposed sign ordinance, the area of
double faced signs is counted as the area
of one face.
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The applicant shall be allowed one wall
sign (parallel to the public right -of -way)
and one freestanding sign not to exceed
50 sq. ft. per face or 12 feet in height.
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The free - standing sign must be placed in a
planted area two times the area of the
sign, and its location approved by the
Community Development Director.
In lieu of the freestanding sign, the
applicant may place one wall sign (perpendicu-
lar to the public right -of -way) at each end
of the building. The area of these two
signs shall be one -half the sum of their
individual areas, so that they will be
treated the same as a single double faced
sign. Convenience signs such as "entrance ",
"exit ", or "drive thru teller" must be
approved by the Community Development
Director: These signs shall be the minimum
size necessary, and shall not include the
name or logo of the savings and loan.
3. That a resubdivision application shall be
processed and a parcel map be.fi.led.
4. That landscaping be provided as indicated and
that it be installed and permanently main-
tained in accordance with a plan approved
by the Director of Parks, Beaches and Recreati
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Commissioner Parker stated that he feels it is
essentially inequitable and unfair to require
people to adhere to standards which are not adopte
Item #4
Request to establish one building site and
eliminate interior lot lines where five lots now
Resub-
division
exist so as to remodel an existing commercial.
No. 467
Approved_
building on the property.
Location: Lots 26 through 30, Tract 1210,.
Condi-
located at 900 West Coast Highway,
tionally
on the northerly side of West
Coast Highway, westerly of Dover
Drive, across West .Coast Highway
from the Balboa Bay Club.
Zone: C - 1. -H
Applicant: Newport Savings and Loan -
George Hoelzel, Newport Beach
Owner: Tract No. 1210 Limited, Newport Beac
Engineer: Engineering Technology, Newport
Beach
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Public hearing was opened in connection with
this matter and there being no one desiring to
appear and be heard, the public hearing was
closed.
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Motion for approval subject to the following
condition:
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1.. That a Parcel Map be filed.
Item #5
Request to consider the adoption of the Noise,
Noise
Element of the Newport Beach General Plan
Element
(Continued Public Hearing).
Approved
Initiated By: The City of Newport Beach
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Revisions
Advance Planning Administrator Cowell appeared
before the Planning Commission and suggested
two revisions to the draft Noise Element, as
follows:
1. Page 39, Proposal No. 1, add the following
sentence: "It is recognized that revisions
to the CAC requirements will be necessary
to assure reasonability and practicability
in their application to single- family
residential development." (This revision
was suggested in order to ameliorate the
concerns expressed in the Irvine Company's
letter of August 26, 1974.)
2. Page 39, Proposal No. 3, replace with the
following: "Consider the adoption of a
local noise control.ordinance." (This
revision was suggested so that the Planning
Commission is not bound to the adoption of
a Noise Ordinance in adopting the Noise
Element.)
Advance Planning Administrator Cowell then
reviewed the August 26, 1974 letter from the
Irvine Company and answered questions of the
Commission relative to sound level measuring
equipment and present standards.
Community Development Director Hogan clarified
for the Commission that the Noise Ordinance
that is before them i.s to control the noise
source. He stated that state law controls
construction practices which protects residential
multi - family development. He explained that
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the staff is recommending in the Noise Element
that the City adopt an additional City Ordinance "
which would protect all sources of residential
development to the same extent as far as external
noise sources are concerned.
The Commission questioned the factualness of.
the Noise Element on Page 26 which refers to the
Aircraft Noise Level Study and states: "This
study concluded that the measured noise levels
found were consistent with the earlier CNEL
contours, and that speech interference and
sleep disturbance are frequent occurences."
(Underscore added). Advance Planning Adminis-
trator Cowell replied that this is a quote from
a report prepared by Veneklasen and Associates.
Public hearing was opened in connection with
this item and Dave Neish, Planning Administration
Manager of the Irvine Company, appeared and
replied that the revisions that Mr. Cowell
has submitted to the Commission.for Page 39
of the element are agreeable to the Irvine
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Company and further replied that the other
concerns expressed in the Irvine Company letter
were merely concerns that they wished to raise
for both the staff and Commission's edification.
There being no others desiring to appear and
be heard, the public hearing was closed.
Planning Commission discussed the repetition
in the Noise Element of the City's policy
regarding the Orange County Airport, i.e.,
the section of the element that starts on Page 31
which is "Existing City Policy on Orange County
Airport" and also the portion of "Noise Control
Program" starting on Page 39, especially on
Page 40, Item 7 where it in effect incorporates
the existing City policy on the Orange County
Airport. Planning Commission discussed
whether these sections are out of place in
this Noise Element and whether it seems to go
out on an "inflexible limb ".
In response to the Commission's question as to
whether the element should contain City
Policy on Motor Vehicle Noise, .Community
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Development Director Hogan brought to the
attention of the Commission that on Page
40 of the Noise Element, Item 5 it states
"Continue to enforce the California Vehicle Code
Provisions.relating to modified muffler systems"
and that on Page 41, Item 8 it states "Support
the development and enforcement of more
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stringent State and Federal Vehicle and Aircraft
Noise Control Legislation ",.
Planning Commission discussed the possibility
of revising Item 8 to read "Support, and where
appropriate, initiate the development and
enforcement of local, State, and Federal .
Vehicle and Aircraft Noise Control Legislation ".
Commissioner Beckley brought notice to the
report, "Studies Related to Jet Aircraft -
Originated Noise Levels and the Economic Impact
Upon Residential Property Values Associated
with the Orange County Airport" that was
prepared by Mawhinney and Long, Real Estate
Appraisers. Commissioner Beckley stated he
had little doubt that they had made an accurate
appraisal of real estate values in the two
areas, namely that one changed so much and
one changed the other. He then voiced his
objection to the theory that the only cause for.
the differential in the real estate values to
exist is the jet aircraft. He then stated
that we have numbers of evidences of what makes
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the real estate values especially high in the
Harbor View Hills area and then suggested that the
increased development in Big Canyon and the
finishing of the shopping center have a dominant
effect on the real estate values. He stated
that Mawhinney and Long compared a development
that was 4 to 4 -1/2 years old with one that was
11 years old and that they didn't compare the
4 -1/2 year old development with the houses
immediately underneath the flight path on the
same side of the hill. He'stated that if it were.
vitally important to the Commission, he would
suggest that that type of information be
gathered as a comparison to see if those directly
under the flight path appreciated to.the same
extent as those further up the hill and further
away did. He stated that Mawhinney and Long
ignored the military helicopter flyover in the
area of Harbor View Hills essentially pretending
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that had no influence and yet the sound
measurement shows that the military helicopters
are putting out more DBA's than the commercial
jets are.. He stated t Mawhinney and Long
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compare tfie"�{Sluff appreciation with the area
immediately to the west of it admitting it is
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in a different town and maybe that influences
real estate values as well. He further .stated
that to accept this report with any degree of .
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seriousness or meaning, he could read into it
that someone may cite this as proof at a later
date that this is factual information.
Commissioner Beckl.ey stated that he does not
believe the conclusion and that he believes
the techniques used in the appriasal but not the
reasons for them. Commissioner Beckley stated
that he does not support this portion of the
element.
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Motion that the Planning Commission adopt
Resolution 895 recommending to City Council
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the adoption of the Noise Element and the
acceptance of EIR /NB 74 -047, with the following
revisions to the element:
1. Page 39, Proposal No. 1, add the following
sentence: "It is recognized that revisions
to the CAC requirements will be necessary
to assure reasonability and practicability
in their application to single- family
residential development."
2. Page 39, Proposal No. 3, replace with the
following: "Consider the adoption of a
local noise control ordinance. ",
and to admonish the authors of the study
prepared by Mawhinney and Long with a finding
that the Mawhinney and Long report is suspect
for some of the reasons earlier mentioned in
Commissioner Beckley's statement.
Commissioner Seely requested that his voting
for the element not be interpreted as a full -
hearted endorsement of all the conclusions
of the Mawhinney and Long report or of certain
of the specifics of the Orange County Airport
Policy which he agrees with the purpose
but thinks some of the specific objectives are
rather inflexible.
Item #6
Proposal to amend the Newport Beach Municipal
Noise
Code by the adoption of a Noise Ordinance
Ordinanc
(Continued Public Hearing).
Tabled
Initiated By: The City of Newport Beach
Community Development Director Hogan stated that
the Commission has already considered this
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Ordinance to some extent and has directed that it
be brought back to them at the time the Commission
considered the Noise Element.
Advance Planning Administrator Cowell appeared
before the Planning Commission and.answered
questions of the Commission relating to the
fact that the proposed Ordinance is basically the
Ordinance that was adopted by the County, and .
that the County hopes that all cities will
adopt such an Ordinance resulting in County -wide
uniformity.
Community Development Director Hogan advised
the Commission that the City is not plagued with .
the kinds of operations that create noises of
the type that this Ordinance is specifically
designed to control and that most of the-noises
the City has complaints,about are those that
are made by people in their every day activities,
i.e., loud stereos, parties, etc. Mr.: Hogan
further advised that the staff has no findings
but perhaps the Planning Commission has some
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examples of noise sources.that really.should.
be controlled and would be effectively .
controlled by this Ordinance. He stated that
the staff does not have the kind of evidence to
enthusiastically support the Ordinance for that
purpose.
Planning Commission discussed that an individual
cannot tell whether the levels that are
proposed would not in actuality eliminate the
kinds of noises that we tolerate or.make them
illegal.
Chief Glavas appeared before the Planning
Commission and stated that he feels that this
Planning Commission as well as former Planning
Commissions have done an admirable job insofar
as keeping noisier areas from quieter ones. He
then urged the Commission to "go slow" in an
Ordinance whereby they adopt objective standards
that may, in fact, inhibit doing a job for the
people of this community in terms of eliminating
objectionable noise. He stated that for six
years the Police Department has been attempting
to get realistic decibel noise level ratings
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adopted by the California Highway Patrol and that
they still find.t.hat despite some reduction,
the decibels permitted by the California Vehicle
Code, adopted by the California Highway Patrol are
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still in the terms of most people too high. He
stated that the Police Department has attempted to
go out on the roadway and test under very exacting
conditions and they find that .very few vehicles
exceed the decibel limit placed by the Vehicle
Code. He pointed out that he feels the Police
Department has been rather successful in stopping
and eliminating those normal sources of noise
which are found most objectionable in this
community. He further stated that Newport Beach
has a limited amount of industry, a great amount
of residential, and a considerable amount of
commercial. He informed the Commission that the
residential noise is.generally from the residential
occupants of the area and that he feels the Police
Department has been reasonably successful in
dealing with this. He stated that the Police
Department deals with noise on a rather subjective
basis, i.e., if neighbors complain and find it
objectionable and the Police Department finds
that a substantial number of people in the
area are disturbed, that is sufficient for the
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Police Department to act upon. He stated that
once an Ordinance of this type is adopted, if
the Police Department tries to proceed subjectively,
he is sure that the courts will very shortly
begin to question their subjective evaluations
and suggest that as long as they have.adopted
objective standards, they should provide the
court with the information relative to exceeding
the objective standards. He then stated that
this can be a very irksome and trying process
because the testing process using a decibel
meter has to be dealt �ith in a court in terms
of where it was placed, what obstructions, shrubbevy,
and the surrounding areas are relative to the
use of the decibel meter. He informed the
Commission that it isn't simply a matter of puttin
the decibel meter down and getting a reading. He
stated that he made inquiry of the City of Ingle-
wood, who adopted a very.similar Noise Ordinance
which gave authority to a department similar to
the Newport Beach Community Development Department
and did supply the supervising members of the
Inglewood Police Department with decibel meters.
He stated that he was told they are not using
the decibel meters and they are, referring all
noise complaints to the Planning Agency, and,
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therefore, the City is` getting referrals instead
of action in response to their noise complaints.
He then read a report from P. Patrick Mann,
Environmental Standard$ Supervisor, regarding
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a summary of Noise Ordinance enforcement
information. He: then stated that he wonders if
it is necessary to add additional personnel to do .
a job that is presently handled in a satisfactory
manner with existing personnel. He stated that
if there is an overriding need in the.minds of
the Commission, that they give some serious
consideration to looking at the Ordinance again
in terms of perhaps dividing the enforcement
responsibilities and eliminating the decibels
of noise as an objective criteria for neighborhood
noise that needs more immediate attention than
coming out with a decibel meter. He then answered
questions of the Commission pertaining to the
amount of noise complaints received in a month
and discussed the Criminal Abatement Process
with the Commission.
Public hearing was opened in connection with
this matter and there being no one desiring to
appear and be heard, the public hearing was
closed.
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of the Noise Ordinance.
Commissioner Seely stated that if this motion
is approved, it might be appropriate for the
staff to communicate this action to the Orange
County Health Department and perhaps leave the
door open for them to advise the Commission of
the experiences, if any, that other cities
may have that might make the Commission want to
reconsider the Ordinance at some future time.
Commissioner Parker stated that there apparently
is no demonstrable noise problem in Newport
Beach that this proposed Ordinance addresses
itself to, and in his view this proposed
Ordinance does not control, or attempt to control,
the major sources of noise, i.e., helicopter and .
airplane overflight and traffic noise. He
stated that it will definitely complicate
enforcement problems and if anything, has a
tendency to perhaps encourage noise problems
over and above what the City has now due to
failure to enforce under this Ordinance. He
stated that in his view it tends to once again
expose the City to further outside governmental
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control over our own affairs by the County.
Commissioner Beckley stated that he does not
believe the proposed noise standards or the
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effect of the proposed standards is well enough
understood to consider them as valid.
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ADDITIONAL BUSINESS
Item #7
Proposal of M. J. Brock and Sons to modify the
street and lot,design within a portion of
Proposal
to modify
Tentative Tract 7967 in Jasmine Creek so as to
permit the construction of one - story dwellings
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where split -level homes would otherwise be
street
required.
and lot
design
Community Development Director Hogan stated that
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some of the Commissioners saw .this particular.
Tentative
request at their Study Session of the last
Tract
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meeting. He then stated that this is a request
of the developer to approve a modification
to.the tentative map which does not substantially
alter the tentative map and, subsequently,
Approved
would be included at the time they submit the
final. He clarified that this proposal is
essentially the opening of some of those
streets which are presently closed and in
cul -de -sacs.
James Hewicker, Assistant Director - Planning, ..
showed the Planning Commission on the map the
three cul -de -sacs that would be removed. He
stated that this proposal is to eliminate the
area which was in the cul -de -sac and bring the
streets through so that they tie into the loop
collector. He then stated that from a Public
Works and fire standpoint; the design that is
proposed is far superior to that which was
originally considered under the tentative map.
He further stated that the area that is in the
cul -de -sacs would be used to enlarge the lot
they have now and in so enlarging the lot, would
be able to get a single -story dwelling on the
larger parcel where they have a split -level
home on a smaller parcel. He informed the
Commission that there is no increase in the
number of lots and no increase in ridge height.
Community Development Director Hogan explained
that the staff's major concern in examining
this proposal was to make sure the developer
did not in any way encroach into those ridge
height lines that were approved by the Planning
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Commission and City Council in the approving
of the original tentative map. He stated
that they do not encroach in those ridge height
lines in any case and, in most cases where they
made any change to the type of dwelling that
was approved, it would be a reduction of that
ridge height line by putting in a one-story
house where a split -level house was planned
originally.
Planning Commission discussed the amount of
parking spaces. The staff explained that more
parking would be provided with the modification.
Community Development Director Hogan explained
that originally it was planned that.there
would be three dwelling units on the east side
of the street and two dwelling units'on the
west side of the street. He stated that this
has been changed so that now three dwelling
units are proposed for the west side of the
street and two dwelling units are proposed for
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the east side.
Larry Olin, of M. J. Brock Construction Company,
appeared before the Planning Commission and
concurred.with the oral staff report. He then
introduced his engineer, who discussed his view
planes with the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Agee stated that he has heard from
some people in Harbor View Hills who followed
this development for some time and that they
seem to have no particular concern regarding
this change.
Commissioner Heather stated that it is her
concern that if the Commission is going to take
action, or conceive that this is an appropriate
revision to the tentative tract map,, that it
be done at one of the Commission's regular
meetings rather than a Study Session where that
kind of action may not be appropriate and if the
people are concerned that they have an
opportunity to speak.
Community Development Director Hogan explained
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and that the has
staff not specifically notified
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people of this proposal. He stated that there
possibly may be people who. are not aware of the
proposal and that it is up to the Commission to
decide if the change is a major enough proposal
to do this, then it should be a revision to the
tentative map. He further stated that if the
Commission thinks this change is minor enough
that it doesn't need this, the Commission
can approve this proposal as a minor change.
Planning Commission discussed the appropriateness
of their deciding that this is a minor change and
acting on it without a .public hearing.
Motion that the Commission finds that this
change will not require a revision to the
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tentative map.
Item #8
Request of staff to interpret the conditions of
Request
to
approval of Use Permit No. 1711 as they relate
to the permitted occupant load of the.proposed
inter -
Warehouse Restaurant in Lido Village,.
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Community Development Director Hogan explained
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that there is a conflict between two of the
of .
conditions of the Use Permit that the staff
approval
would like to clear up: 1) That the development
of Use
be.in.substantial compliance with the approved
Permit
floor plans except for minor modifications
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approved by the Community Development Department,
2) That the occupancy of the restaurant shall
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not exceed 277 persons prior to 6:00 p.m. and shall
not exceed a total of 400 persons after 6:00 p.m.
Mr. Hogan stated that "400 persons after 6:00 p.m.'
creates a problem because the floor plans as
presented at the time of the hearing.would
provide for an occupancy of 524 persons as
computed by the Building Code. He then explained
that.the applicant's understanding was that
"400" meant 400 seats in the restaurant and that
it was the staff Ts understanding that "400"
meant an occupant load of 400. He stated that
the entire reason for restricting the occupant
load is because of the parking provision and
that the.appl.icant has plenty of parking after
6:00 p.m. He further explained that.the
applicant has had an off -site parking agreement
approved by the City Council at their last
meeting and that there is no reason that the
off -site parking agreement can't be made to
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include adequate parking as provided by the Code
for the 524 occupant load. He stated that "400"
was applied for by the applicant (which he
understood to mean as seats) and the seating
plan he has for the restaurant is less than. 400.
He stated that if the Commission has no
objection, staff will interpret that the "400"
was meant as the applicant applied for it (as
seats on his seating plan). He further stated
that the occupant load as computed by the
Building Code would be 524 and that staff
would require in his off -site parking agreement
that he set aside adequate parking that would
provide for 524 people. He stated that it
would be a matter of 175 parking places, in the
parking agreement, that he would have to keep
available for the restaurant usage. He informed
the Commission that the conditions of the Use
Permit would not change, but it would be inter-
preted to mean that the "400" be the limitation
on the number of seats that would be provided
in the restaurant, but that where the parking
says a minimum of 134, staff would require that
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the agreement, and the applicant has indicated
that he is willing to sign the agreement,
provide 175.
Planning Commission discussed parking.standards,
means.of determining occupancy load and the
Restaurant Parking Study.
Don Koll appeared and answered questions of the
Commission relative to the request.
Tim Strader appeared before the Planning Commissio
and stated that he put in 400 persons when he
filed the application and that he was not aware
of the occupancy square footage computation.
He stated that these are the same plans that
were approved by the Proposition 20 Commission
and informed the Commission that the staff
discovered this inconsistency in the conditions
and that they are at the meeting to get a
confirmation so they can conclude the planning
stage and start the construction.
Motion
x
Following discussion, motion was made that the Com
ission
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finds that there was an inadvertent error in the
Agnt
x
presentation of the occupancy figure in that the
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"400" referred to seats rather than. persons and that
the.staff be allowed to reinterpret the "400"
figure as being seating, with an occupancy load
of 524 and that the Commission not require a
further public hearing conditioned upon the
applicant adjusting the minimum parking
requirement to the proposed figure of 175.
Request for approval of street names within
the Coves Development.
Community Development.Director Hogan advised
the Commission that Irvine Pacific has requested
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Item #9
Request
for
approval
of street
names
the street names of Bayside Cove East and
within
Bayside Cove West. He stated that staff has
the Coves
shown these proposed street names to the
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Police and Fire Departments and that the.Police
ment
Department has indicated they have no objection,
however, the.Fire Department feels it might
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cause confusion because of other similar names
in the City.
James Hewicker, Assistant Director — Planning,
informed the Commission of other streets in the
City with similar names and informed the
Commission that the staff was concerned
originally with the names Cove East and Cove West
with respect to emergency use confusion.
Ralph Spargo, Assistant to the D,,irector of
Architecture and Planning for Irvine Pacific,
appeared before the Planning Commission and
stated that they were.trying to identify the
street names with the project, i.e., Bayside
Cove Community Association. He stated that
they had originally proposed Cove East and Cove
West but then had feed.back from the staff that
this would be in conflict with existing names.
He stated they then decided to use Cove with
a modifier and proposed - "Bayside Cove East"
and "Bayside Cove West" which would identify
this street as connected to Bayside Drive,
connected to the Cove, and the name of the
project.
Planning Commission discussed the possibility of
making "Bayside Cove" all one word and the
possibility of referring this matter back to
the Safety Forces for a unified opinion:
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Planning Commission voiced disappointment that
the Fire Department did not appear before them
to give the reasoning behind their disapproval
of these street names and for not giving any
suggestions.
Planning Commission then discussed whether they
should approve a street name when one of the
safety forces feels it could be confusing,,
and discussed the possibility of approving a
third choice.
Motion
x
Motion.to adopt the names Bayside Cove East and
Ayes
x
x
x
x
x
Bayside Cove West, and that the Fire Department
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x
be told that in the future when this situation
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k
occurs, that the Commission would like more
guidance from them in that they appear or if
they cannot appear, at least submit a memo
outlining specifically their viewpoints.
Motion
x
There being no further business, Planning
Ayes
Commission adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
A ent
x
ames Parker, Secretary
Planning Commission
City of Newport Beach
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