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Special Adjourned Planning Commission
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Meeting
Place: City Council Chambers
Time: 7:30 P.M. Date: September
City of Newport Beach
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Present
Absent
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V. Hogan, Community Development
Director
Hugh
Coffin, Acting City Attorney
TAFF MEMBERS
ames Hewicker, Assistant Director
Planning
obert Lenard, Advance Planning Ad
inistrator
on Webb, Assistant City Engineer
f�inutes
Written By: Glenna Gipe
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.ng
r.iony
Commissioner Balalis explained that
as a meeting designed for fact-gathering
GPA 79 -1 and GPA 79 -2 to allow
from the audience and that it
this meeting
regard-
for all testi-
would not be
meeting for final action.
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Request to consider proposed amendments
Land Use, Residential Growth and Recreation
pen Space Elements of the General
reliminary review of a screen check
tudy; and
to the
and
Plan, and the
Initial
GENERAL
PL N AMEND -
MENT 79 -1
AND GEN-
RAL PLAN
AMENDMENT
Fequest to consider proposed amendments
Circulation Element of the General
acceptance of an Environmental Document.
to the
Plan, and the
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CONTINUED.
TO THE RE-
INITIATED BY: The City of Newport
Beach
GULAR PLAN.
NING COM-
MISSION
ichard Hogan, Community Development
ited necessary corrections within
Ier Paper entitled Land Use Alternatives
Center, dated 9/6/79, Agenda Item
ling the total area left to be dev
eduction figure, the 20% reduction
Director,
the Koll Cen-
for Koll
No. 2, includ-
loped, the;50%
figure and th
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ffice development figure. He then
xplanation regarding the commercial
ix, stating that they had allowec
offered an
/residential
the same
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mount of commercial that would be allowed in :the
0 %.reduction; that is, 382,749 to al commercial
eveloped on half the site, added o that, resid-
ntial at 10 dwelling units per buildable acre,
rri.ving at.the buildable acre by ising half the
creage.remaining and subtracting 5 %, to take
are of the amount taken out for s reets, to give
buildable figure of 25% less thap a net figure.
ommission,er Balalis posed a question regarding
he amount remaining to be built, o which Mr.
ogan replied that the amount is tie 30% allowed
n the property under each ownership, so that the
otal would add up to 269,810 sq. t., or 255
welling units on 252 net buildabl acres under
he high- density and 102 dwelling inits on the
ame amount of acreage for low -den ity.
he Public Hearing was opened regarding this item
nd Tim Strader, Senior Vice President of the
• Koll Company, agents for Aetna Life Insurance and
owner of the remaining Koll Center Newport un-
developed land, appeared before the Planning Com-
mission and relayed the history of Koll Center
�lewport, including a brief explanation of an
bbutline of the Koll Center Newport project and
;ome of the different ownerships. He expressed
its feeling that the amount remaining to be de-
eloped in Koll Center Newport is not significant
From the standpoint of the General Plan of the
City of .Newport Beach and that their hotel proje.c-
Can properly be handled with a Traffic Phasing
�5tudy. He requested that the General Plan review
�s to the remaining Koll parcels be supplemented
End in its place, the Traffic Phasing Program, ra-
her than the General Plan Amendment, as outlined
n the City rules and regulations, be required to
e completed and stated that they will ask for
imilar treatment.to the Emkay property. He
tated .that.the major traffic imp ovements re-
tired to move traffic in that area have been
uilt.and installed by the developers in the area
nd he expressed his feeling that presently there
re traffic problems within the City of Irvine,
because no traffic improvements have been made.
• He then explained that the remaining.area to be
developed within Koll Center Newp rt is not con-
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usive to residential development nd would re
uire.an extension of residential ity services
o the eastern -.most tip of the Cit . He expresse
is feeling that using the October 1978 figures
s not an appropriate application, because during
he year developers were permitted to develop,
0% of the undeveloped acreage as legal use,
hich has been.done, and that the, figures should
e based upon existing densities t day. In con-
lusion, he informed the Planning ommission that
hey have never attempted to maximize the Koll
enter development, and want only a low- density
evelopment. He then gave the Pla ning Commis -
ion opportunity to view slides illustrating the
oll Center development.
in response to a question posed by Commissioner
Beek, Mr. Strader replied that whei the project
6riginally was presented to the Ci y, there was
partnership called Kol.l Center N wport and Aetn
• Fife Insurance Company was a limit !d partner in
ghat partnership, and upon restruc uring 2 years
ago, Aetna Life Insurance Company iow is the
bested owner of the property and tie Koll Company
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cts as investment manager of the roject for
Aetna.
in response to a question posed by Commissioner
¢okas, Pat Allen, Architect, replied that to ar-
1^ive at the 335,934 figure is the number of sq.
t. within. the Koll property and the proposed
otel project versus what is in the total pro -
erty.of 899,367 sq. ft., arrived at by an acreag
plit and density calculation.
n response to a question posed by Commissioner
llen, Mr. Hogan stated that they computed the
otel as being the equivalent of 155,000 sq. ft.
f office space and that in the P -C text, Amend -
ent No. 514 did not specify hotel or office, but
the P -C text also allows for part of that space.
for a hotel.
Mr. Strader relayed that the density numbers that
were in the Staff Report and the ensity numbers
' 'that they have in their presentation relate only
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to commercial office use, and that the 500 room
otel is exclusive of that, derived as being per -
itted in that particular lot and is not part of
he densities under discussion, as hotels have
�efferent planning considerations.
r. Hogan then relayed the figures staff is using
elated to this project: 819,967 q. ft. of of-
ice space, including 155,422 sq. Ft. taken out
f the office space and allowed for a hotel, plus
2,000 sq. ft. restaurant space; 1),000 sq. ft.
of retail space, 25,625 sq. ft. of courthouse and
c1,775 sq. ft. of industrial.
ommissioner Cokas stated his understanding that
Koll Center has 104,000 sq. ft. less than they .ar
M��i++nder.the assumption they have, to which Commis -
ner Allen agreed.
�rnie Wilson, Langden and Wilson.A chitects, then
• explained that the density allowable in both the
Emkay and Koll Center P -C texts were on the basis
6f commercial office space and that in each of
hose texts there was a place for a hotel, which
zias not described, and in the case of Emkay, they
ad said it was going.to go where it is now built
and that in the Koll Center P -C text, they are
dof restricted by acreage or size but that they
ust obtain a Use Permit and that what they are
roposing to do on.the remaining 8.2 acres is to
resent that picture to the Plann.i g Commission
nd that in their.view, having written both of
he P -C texts, their densities for office had
othing to do with a hotel. in conclusion, he ex.
lained that because of the interest in cutting
own densities, the office density has been trans
osed and their contention is that this has no-
thing to do with the density as the ordinance is
now.written and that the 225,000 sq. ft. is purel
office- commercial space allowable on this site,
lus the right to build a hotel under a Use Per
it and that they are saying that on the same ba-
is, this ordinance should take the same 24%:re-
duction as the other ordinance, which is 247,000
�;q. ft. left for Koll Center, an identical ratio:
• to Emkay, which underbuilt in some of their areas
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nd put together their total foots e. In conclu-
ioh, he questioned whether the 93,000 sq. ft. of
hich they underbuilt Block "D" is in this.pic
ure yet.
he Planning Commission recessed a 8:30 p.m. and
ecomvened at 8:35 p.m.
Pr. Hoga.n then explained to the Planning Commis -
ion that in the P -C text, there was 2,700,000
q. ft. allowed for office develop ent and a hote
ind that in the Traffic Phasing Or inance of
Amendment No. 514, it indicated that development
xisted a 1,651,757 square footage and that the
additional allowable was 1,058,863 sq. ft:, or a
total of approximately 2,700,000 s ft. of offic
• Oevelopment, and that the hotel wa not mentioned
in Amendment No. 514.
ommissioner Balalis stated his un erstanding
hat the Koll Center has 325,000 s . ft. and that
he Irvine Company has 363,000 sq. ft., and in ad
ition to this is the 155,000 sq. t. figure for
he hotel.
r. Wilson stated his understandin that to at-
empt to join their Koll Center pr ject and their
otel project would.necessitate am nding the .
rdinance as well as the Traffic.P asing Ordi-
ance.
bob Shelton, Irvine Company, appeared before the
lanning Commission and stated their position
s being in agreement with staff relating to
he portion entitled, "Office Site 'C "', express -
ng that they are in favor of the 24% figure.
in response to a question posed by Commissioner
Alen, Mr. Shelton relayed that theirs would be
a case of taking 24% of 364,000 sq. ft.
• om Morrissey, Ford Aerospace.Communications
orporation, appeared before the Planning Commis -
;ion and requested that the Planning Commission
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cept the P -C plan that was approved as the
tion that would be taken under any general plan
ange.
mmission.er Balalis posed a question, to which
gh Coffin, Acting City Attorney, replied that
ere are provisions in the State lanning Act
r extraterritorial general plan esignations
property and that it is his and rstanding that.
ey most likely do have the juris iction.over
co.
Mr. Shelton again appeared before lhe.Planning
Commission and stated his understanding that the
Planning Commission is dealing witt less than 10%
of the land area of the City and Vat of.that 10%
The Irvine.Company is the owner of 8% of this lane
.area and that if the current general plan were to
be radified and buildout were to.o cur on the va
• ant residential parcels, this wou d increase the
City's dwelling units by only abou 6% and the coi
Mercial /industrial square footage y only about
1�5 %.9 land he expressed his feeling- hat.the action
taken by the City last November in General Plan
mendment 78 -2 represent already a very signifi-
cant and sufficient reduction in b th categories,
at which time about a 30% reductio in then -allow
able residential dwelling units oc ured and about
6% reduction in allowable square ootage.in Ir
ine and Newport Center, Newport C nter being.the
my one to receive that type of r duction. He
urther stated regarding the subje t of traffic
hat they feel that the traffic pr blems can be
iolved and are not what they thoug t a year ago
hey would be and that they believ2 strongly in
he concept of phasing and are com fitted to the
lotion that development and road capacity shou.ld
e syncronized, no matter what period of time it
akes. In conclusion, he expressel his feeling
Ahat this process should involve a full - fledged
R and is.in good practice and in everyone's
best interest.
Keith Greer,.Director of Community Development fo
The Irvine Company, appeared befora the Planning
. Commission and reviewed the projects surrounding
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pper Newport Bay, provided a pres ntation regard
ng the Baywood Apartments and gav an overview
f the history of the 1978 General Plan Amend-
ent.
n response to a question posed by Commissioner
llen, Mr. .Greer replied that if i can be demon -
trated by an objective traffic an lysis that the
evelopment. in question is, in fact, going to,cre
n impact that.cannot be otherwise mitigated
xcept by completion of the San Jo quin Hills
ransportation Corridor, then they would agree
o not develop until that time.
Ir. Greer'then continued with his resentation:
'Castawa s Pro'ect; a) a plateau. h) concept
�s a mix, of resi ential communitie integrated
cith a park system, with private r creation cen-
er and public bicycle trail syste . c) interior
irculation system. d) single family homes.and
townhomes. e] 325 dwelling units. 2) Westbay
m tio ect; a) bluffs that provide f r the protec-
n of the canyon areas. b) public park.
0 adult community. d) 348 dwelli g units.
e) cluster townhomes with greenbel s and private
recreation areas and public bicycle trail system.
3) New grter North; a) preservation of open
space through pu b11C parks, trail systems and.pri
'vate recreation center. b) cluster development
If adult community c) urban chara ter d) 440
welling units.
n response to a question posed by Commissioner
11aidinger, Mr. Greer stated that Castaways would
be their first and immediate community with which
to proceed.
Or. Radovich then appeared before the Planning
Commission and': 1) reviewed the project from a
abitat mapping standpoint and the possibilit-ies
f related.tradeoffs, explaining that the special
mportance of riparian areas is that they, have al
terrestrial systems, including source of water,
shade, etc., and are quite valuable ecologically.
He stated their general disagreement with 'The
rvine.Company related to one area that is not
• specifically a bluff, but, nevertheless, steep,.
and that they would like to see it set back from
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itv of Newaort Beach
he Dehli Channel, rather than dev
p to it and.look at it as an exte
ay, rather than a clearly defined
) In conclusion, he relayed that
of be in favor of a bicycle path
he riparian and /or marshes involv
egarding a portion of the Newport
rea., Mr.:Radovich stated a concer
ng this as an important area for
f Lightfooted Clappera.il, and the
mprove this riparian canyon and p
tructures within to slow down wat
ow greater ponding, rather than d
n this area.
n response to a question posed by
okas as to whether affordable hou
uired, Mr. Coffin replied that th
erence of opinion among the Gover
ey General and others within the
arding this issue and that the Ci
ort Beach has taken the position
of a legal requirement through th
lan mandatory versus advisory gui
ulgated by the State.
loped right
sion of the
channel.
hey would
hrough
d. 4)
r North
regard -
itings
need to
t some
r.and a1=
velopment
Commissioner
ing was.re-
re is a dif-
or, Atto.r
tate re-
y of New -
hat it is
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ommissioner Balalis referred them to the letter
rom the office of the Mayor, stating that the
ity is on record in opposing to the Local Coast -
1 Program, including such require ents related
o affordable housing.
r. Coffin then responded regardin establishing
eneral Plan elements and designations for land
utside our boundaries, stating that the code .
tates that the City can establish and designate
ame.
otion was made to excuse Commissioner Cokas from
he regular Planning Commission meeting of Sep -
ember 20, 1979.
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he Planning Commission continued the public hear
ng regarding General Plan Amendme t 79 -1 and
eneral Plan Amendment 79 -2 to the regular Plan-
ing Commission meeting of Septemb r 20, 1979 and
djourned at 10:00 p.m.
Debra Allen, S cretary
Planning Commi sion
City of Newpor Beach
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