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Planning Commission Minutes
September 21, 2000
Regular Meeting - 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
Commissioners McDaniel, Kiser, Agajanian, Selich, Gifford, Kranzey and Tucker:
All Commissioners were present
STAFF PRESENT:
Sharon Z. Wood, Assistant City Manager
Patricia L. Temple, Planning Director
Robin Clauson, Assistant City Attorney
Rich Edmonston, Transportation /Development Services Manager
Genia Garcia, Associate Planner
James Campbell, Senior Planner
Patrick Alford, Senior Planner
Ginger Varin, Planning Commission Executive Secretary
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Minutes of September 7, 2000:
Motion was made by Commissioner Gifford and voted on to approve, as
amended, the minutes of September 7, 2000.
Ayes: McDaniel, Kiser, Agajanian, Selich, Gifford, Kranzley, Tucker
Noes: None
Abstain: None
Absent: None
Public Comments:
None
Posting of the Agenda:
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The Planning Commission Agenda was posted on Friday, September 15, 2000.
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SUBJECT: Natural Nails (Pam Ward, applicant)
615 East Balboa Avenue
• Use Permit No. 3682
Request to approve a waiver of the off - street parking requirements for a personal
service nail salon use on a property located in the SP -6 (RSC) District. The request
is a waiver of six (6) parking spaces.
Ms. Garcia, Associate Planner presented slides on the proposed application
noting the following:
1,723 square footage of commercial use on bottom floor.
• 3 residential dwelling units above the commercial uses.
Nail salon, as comer tenant will occupy 720 square feet.
22 parking spaces required for total use.
16 parking spaces provided on site leaving a 6 -space deficit.
Enclosed parking, both residential and commercial, with garage doors.
• Several Municipal Parking lots located near the subject property.
Public comment was opened.
Pam Warden, agent representing the commercial property, noted that they
understand and agree to the findings and conditions in the staff report. She
noted that they are allotting extra parking resulting from vacancies for this
tenant. However, when those vacancies are filled, there will be no extra parking
allowed for the salon. At Commission inquiry, she answered that there are six
extra spaces available for the nail salon and that there is a mixed use of both
residential and commercial in the garage parking. Each of the commercial uses
are allowed two double tandems and the residential uses are allowed a single
tandem.
Ms. Garcia noted that it appears that there is a vacancy in one of the upper
residential units and also a vacancy in one of the commercial units. However,
the parking required is based on full occupancy.
Chairperson Selich noted that at full occupancy there is a deficiency of six
spaces.
Marcia Dossey, Asset Manager for the properly, noted that there is a deficiency
of six spaces. She noted that they take great care on the tenant mix for the on-
going use of residents and commercial uses. This property has been remodeled
both inside and out.
Commissioner Kranzley asked about the garage doors on the tandem spaces for
commercial use that are to remain open during the day.
Ms. Dossey answered that the garage doors on this particular unit share spaces
with the residential uses. The doors are in place because of the residential
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UP No. 3682
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security issue at night. She noted that it is posted that the garage doors are to
remain open during the day per Municipal Code.
Public comment was closed.
Commissioner Gifford noted that this original project when approved was given
the benefit of tandem parking. The garage doors were installed since the
building was built. The garage doors have been closed during the day. It would
be appropriate to deal with tenants who could live within the parking that has
been provided for this building.
Commissioner McDaniel asked if a donut shop was in that same place, would it
require less parking? He was answered that a retail usage is based on 1 per 250.
Chairperson Selich asked how there was tandem parking in a commercial use.
He was answered that the project was approved by a Use Permit and that it was
part of the approval.
Ms. Garcia, referencing an exhibit, explained the commercial and residential
parking that is provided on site.
• Commissioner Gifford noted that she was on the Commission when this building
was approved and that considerable benefit was given to it. There is ample
opportunity to provide the parking for the nail salon and to work with the empty
units that are there to find tenants that could live within the parking provided by
the building. Motion was made to deny the waiver.
Chairperson Selich stated that the motion for denial was based on the fact that
this project was given substantial consideration for parking benefits in the use
permit approval and that there are no sufficient grounds to expand that further
by providing this waiver.
Commissioner Tucker stated that he would not support the motion. He stated
that there is a lot of public parking nearby and this is a good service use that is
more local serving than a lot of the uses in the area.
Commissioner Kranzley stated his support of the motion.
Commissioner Agajanian stated his support of the motion adding that the
parking spaces are oriented towards visitors. If we start allowing commercial uses
to encroach upon the visitors' use of the spaces at critical times, it detracts from
visitor use. I would hate to set some kind of precedent that lets everybody know
that whenever they happen to be located in the area with public parking that it
might be sufficient justification to not provide for their own parking requirements
on site.
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Ayes: McDaniel, Kiser, Agajanian, Selich, Gifford, Kranzley
Noes: Tucker
Absent: None
EXHIBIT "B"
FINDINGS FOR DENIAL OF
USE PERMIT NO. 3682
Findings:
1. The approval of Use Permit No. 3682 will, under the circumstances of the
case be detrimental to the health, safety, peace, morals, comfort and
general welfare of persons residing or working in the neighborhood or be
detrimental or injurious to property or improvements in the neighborhood or
the general welfare of the City for the following reasons:
• Adequate parking is not provided on -site for the proposed use.
• The municipal parking lots are filled mainly by beach users and
tourists in the area, particularly on weekends when the, nail
salon is open, and therefore, will not provide the additional
parking spaces required for the use.
SUBJECT. Santa Ana Heights Equestrian Park (County of Orange,
applicant)
2202 Mesa Drive
• Use Permit No. 3680
• Acceptance of a Negative Declaration
Request to establish a park providing equestrian recreational opportunities for
the public and nearby residents of Santa Ana Heights, and restoring the area
known as "the mesa," which overlooks the back bay that has been damaged
by equestrian activities, with native vegetation.
Ms. Garcia noted that a packet containing additional response to comments
had been distributed this evening. These additional mitigation measures can
be added in response to the California Regional Water Quality Control Board
comments. They are more specific requirements of the existing mitigation
measures incorporated currently in the Negative Declaration. She then
presented a visual presentation noting the following:
• Proposed Santa Ana Heights Equestrian Park is located in the Santa Ana
Heights unincorporated area, portions of which are in the City.
• Area is surrounded by rural, equestrian, large lots,
• Area is County owned and maintained.
• Park is proposed for day use with no lighting required.
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UP No. 3680
Acceptance of a
Negative Declaration
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• No structures on site.
No boarding facilities.
• No employees.
• Access to the site will be from the County Regional Trail.
• Minor grading on site is proposed to create the riding and lunging areas.
• The Mesa is currently owned by the County and has no improvements on it.
• The County will do re- vegetation of native plants on the Mesa.
• Nearby private properties and golf course were exhibited.
• Parking area at the Interpretive Center is not paved.
At Commission inquiry, staff answered that the facility belongs to the County and
there will be no liability on the City's part with approval of the project.
Ms. Garcia noted that this facility is a park and the County will be maintaining it.
It will have to go through Coastal Commission review. The adjacent property
owner had noted his concern that a telephone is placed out at the Interpretive
Center for emergency use. Public notice of this project was given to property
owners within a 300 -foot radius. Fencing will be in place while the re- vegetation
is in process on the Mesa.
Ms. Temple added that a communication was received from the Planning and
Development Services Department of the County of Orange with comments on
the Negative Declaration. Staff has reviewed these comments. They do not
identify any new impacts not identified in the initial study. However, they are
suggesting some revisions to the language of the proposed mitigation measures
to make them more precise and detailed. These can be incorporated and
adopted as part of the Negative Declaration without re- circulation since the
standards for re- circulation are not present.
Public comment was opened.
Mark Fsslinger, Project Planner for Santa Ana Heights Redevelopment Project
Area noted that he looks forward to working with City staff. He clarified:
• Corral or holding pen rather than stalls.
• No animals are to be left over night or boarded.
• We will have to obtain a permit from the Orange County Flood Control
District to ensure that their concerns are satisfied with regard to minimizing the
impacts of runoff.
At Commission inquiry he noted:
• This is a small -scale limited neighborhood facility.
• A Manure Management Plan will be provided to the City.
• There will be a sprinkler system in place to control dust.
• A firm experienced in designing equestrian facilities will be hired. That plan
will then be submitted to the City for approval.
. • Minimal landscape if required by the City will include any drought resistant
trees.
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• Residential uses have access to this trail through Mesa Drive that connects to
the Back Bay trail that leads to the project site and equestrian bridge.
• This facility can accommodate a small number of horses.
• Parking design at Interpretive Center will not allow horse trailers.
• No formal organized events will take place at this site.
• He agreed to add a condition that a Special Event Use Permit shall be
required from the City for any event at the site.
• Access to the site is to be from the existing Santa Ana Heights Regional Trail.
• Mitigation measures recommended by the Water Quality Control Board are
acceptable to the County.
• Park Rangers, Code Enforcement officers and Sheriff Deputies will provide
public safety.
• Purpose of the rings will be for the exercising and training of the horses.
Mr. Jeff Dickman of the County of Orange Harbors, Beaches and Parks noted
that the Mesa area will be re- vegetated and will be fenced off during that
period. The trail use will be next to the mesa. The horses will be prohibited on the
Mesa because it will be a plant habitat.
Hollie Jarvis, Mesa Drive resident made herself available for questions by the
Planning Commission, indicating support for the project.
Public comment was closed.
Motion was made by Commissioner Tucker to approve Use Permit No. 3680 and
Acceptance of a Negative Declaration as amended by incorporating the
changes in the letters submitted by the County and the Water Quality Control
Board and addition of dust control in Mitigation Measure 3 as well as the addition
of the requirement for a Special Event Use Permit.
Ayes: McDaniel, Kiser, Agajanian, Selich, Gifford, Kranzley, Tucker
Noes: None
Absent: None
EXHIBIT "A"
FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR
USE PERMIT NO. 3680
Mitigated Negative Declaration
A. Mitigated Negative Declaration:
Findinas:
1. An Initial Study and Mitigated Negative Declaration have been prepared in
compliance with the Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), the State CEQA
Guidelines, and City Council Policy K -3.
2. The contents of the environmental document have been considered in the
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various decisions on this project. On the basis of the analysis set forth in the
Initial Study and Mitigated Negative Declaration, including the mitigation
measures listed, the proposed project does not have the potential to
significantly degrade the quality of the environment.
3. There are no long -term environmental goals that would be compromised by
the project.
4. No cumulative impacts are anticipated in connection with this or other
projects.
5. There are no known substantial adverse affects on human beings that would
be caused by the proposed project.
Mitigation Measures:
During construction activities, the applicant shall ensure that the project will
comply with SCAQMD Rule 402 (Nuisance), to reduce odors from
construction activities.
2. During construction activities, the applicant shall ensure that the project will
comply with SCAQMD Rule 402 (Nuisance), to reduce odors from
construction activities. During construction activities, the applicant shall
ensure that the following measures are complied with to reduce short-term
(construction) air quality impacts associated with the project: a) controlling
fugitive dust by regular watering, or other dust palliative measures to meet
South Coast Air Quality Management District (SCAQMD) Rule 403 (Fugitive
Dust); b) maintaining equipment engines in proper tune; and c) phasing
and scheduling construction activities to minimize project - related emissions.
3. A siltation, dust, and debris control plan shall be submitted and be subject to
approval by the Building Department. The plan shall be a complete plan for
dust control and temporary and permanent facilities to minimize any
potential impacts from silt, debris, and other water pollutants. (In particular,
the plan shall address the manner in which manure and other debris will be
removed.) A copy of the plan shall be forwarded to the California Regional
Water Quality Control Board, Santa Ana Region.
4. The velocity of concentrated runoff from the project shall be evaluated and
erosive velocities controlled as part of the project design.
5. The landscape plan shall include a maintenance program, which controls
the use of fertilizers and pesticides.
6. The project shall incorporate all appropriate BMP's pursuant to the NPDES
requirements. These BMP's shall be subject to the approval of the Public
Works Department.
7. Construction activities shall be limited to the hours of 7:00 a.m. and 6:30 p.m.
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Monday through Friday and 8:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. on Saturday;
construction activities are prohibited on Sunday or any federal holiday.
8. Construction equipment shall not be stored within any streambed. Fueling,
lubrication, and maintenance equipment shall not be located within any
streams or areas where contaminants could be washed into a water body.
No waste material shall be discharged to any drainage areas, channels or
streams. Spoil sites shall not be located within any streams or areas where
spoil material could be washed into a water body.
10. The applicant shall utilize a variety of special BMPs to mitigate water quality
impacts. These BMPs shall be incorporated into a Manure Management Plan
to the satisfaction of the City of Newport Beach. Such BMPs shall include, but
not be limited to, selections from the BMPs listed in the Pierce County,
Washington, and Santa Monica Bay Restoration project Web Sites (see
attached), which are summarized below:
• Covering the ground with vegetation, mulch sawdust, or other absorbent
material;
• Planting vegetation on the channel bank to prevent erosion;
• Using vegetated biofilters;
• Using grassy or vegetated swales to filter runoff before it enters the
channel;
• Using fencing to limit how close animals can get to the channel;
• Shoveling up manure, rather than hosing it down;
• Locating manure storage areas where storm runoff will not wash nutrients
into the channel;
• Covering and providing proper containment (berms), around manure
storage areas;
• Storing manure in fly -tight containers with lids or other equivalent
methods;
• Using catch basin inserts i.e., Water Quality Inlets (S 16, in the DAMP);
Facility design considerations include depicting the location and orientation
of the riding arena and specifying the location(s) where temporary boarding
of horses would occur, such that impacts of manure would be minimized. For
example:
• Locate temporary stables such that runoff is directed away from the
channel;
• Provide minimum setbacks for temporary stables;
• Design the project grading to maximize filtration and infiltration of runoff
before it reaches the channel (maybe using vegetated swoles);
• Install gutters or diversion terraces to divert runoff away from areas where
manure build -up is anticipated.
Some of the above BMPs, as well as others, may involve facility design
• considerations, which could impact the layout and configuration shown on
the approved Site Plan. It may therefore be appropriates to consider the
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need for any revisions to the project Site Plan before project approval is
considered. It also appears that the Condition SC 8-4 should be modified to
clarify that all structural and post - construction nonstructural BMPs selected for
this project will be identified and described in detail in a WQMP that will be
required to be prepared pursuant to the provisions of the County DAMP.
B. Use Permit No. 3680:
Findinas:
1. The Land Use Dement of the General Plan and Local Coastal Program Land
Use Plan designate the site for "Single Family Detached" residential use and
an equestrian park is permitted within this designation.
2. The approval of Use Permit No. 3680 will not, under the circumstances of the
case be detrimental to the health, safety, peace, morals, comfort and
general welfare of persons residing or working in the neighborhood or be
detrimental or injurious to property or improvements in the neighborhood or
the general welfare of the City and further, the use is consistent with the
legislative intent of Title 20 of this Code. Also, the waiver of parking will not be
• detrimental to surrounding properties for the following reasons:
• The equestrian arena will facilitate the equestrian usage in the
Santa Ana Heights area and will complement the existing
equestrian, pedestrian, and bicycle trail facilities that currently
serve the area.
• The equestrian park is consistent with the policies of the Santa Ana
Heights Specific Plan.
• The facility will not necessitate extensive construction and
development activity that would adversely affect adjacent land
uses, including the residential development and Upper Newport
Bay Nature Preserve.
• The equestrian arena does not include stables, short or long -term
features that would allow the keeping of animals, rather the
facility is to be operated as a day -use facility only.
• The project is compatible and complementary to the existing and
surrounding land uses.
• No significant environmental impacts will occur as a result of the
proposed project.
• The design of the proposed improvements will not conflict with
any easements acquired by the public at large for access
through or the use of the property within the proposed
development as no public easements other than utility
easements that serve the property are present.
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Conditions of Approval:
1. Development shall be in substantial conformance with the approved site
plan and floor plan, except as noted below.
2. Disruption caused by construction work along roadways and by movement
of construction vehicles shall be minimized by proper use of traffic control
equipment and flagmen. Traffic control and transportation of equipment and
materials shall be conducted in accordance with state and local
requirements. The applicant shall obtain a haul route permit from the Public
Works Department for the removal of all construction materials, excavated
dirt and debris from the site.
3. Fencing for the lunging area, riding arena, trail fencing along the Delhi
Channel shall be limited to 5 feet in height.
4. A minimum 6 -foot high chain -link fence shall be installed at the eastern
properly line between the subject property and the adjacent residential
properly.
• 5. The facility is for day -use only and no site lighting is permitted.
6. All "guide" or directional signs for the project shall be subject to the review
and approval of the Public Works Department.
7. Address signs for the equestrian park shall be posted at the Mesa Drive
entrance and on the subject property to facilitate identification of the site by
emergency personnel and the public.
8. The Planning Commission may add to or modify conditions of approval to this
Use Permit or recommend to the City Council the revocation of this Use Permit
upon a determination that the operation which is the subject of this Use
Permit causes injury, or is detrimental to the health, safety, peace, morals,
comfort, or general welfare of the community.
9. This Use Permit shall expire unless exercised within 24 months from the date
of approval as specified in Section 20.80.090A of the Newport Beach
Municipal Code.
10. Special Events held at the facility shall be subject to a Special Event Permit
approved by the City pursuant to Chapter 5.10 of the Newport Beach
Municipal Code.
SUBJECT: Mariner's Mile Strategic Vision & Design Framework
Amendment No. 906
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Item No. 3
A 906
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• Amendment No. 906
Adopt the Strategic Vision and Design Framework to establish policies for future
development on Mariners' Mile. The Strategic Vision includes the promotion of a
pedestrian oriented retail area called the "Mariner's Village" in the area of
Riverside Avenue and Tustin Avenue. To implement the Strategic Vision and
Design Framework, Amendment No. 906 would amend Chapter 20.42 Mariner's
Mile Specific Area Plan and create a new overlay district covering the
commercial and mixed -use properties on Coast Highway between Rocky Point
and Dover Drive. The amended specific plan and new overlay will implement
new development standards (i.e. landscaping, architecture, signs) and land use
policies for projects within the area. The amendment will not change the existing
permitted uses or permitted building heights.
Senior Planner, James Campbell noted a memo presented for the Commission's
consideration. This memo was a result of a meeting with Commissioner Tucker on
the suggested corrections to the Code.
Commissioner Kiser recused himself from this item due to a conflict of interest.
Commissioner Tucker suggested that items 5 and 12 be deleted from the memo.
Public comment was opened.
Public comment was closed.
Commissioner Tucker noted discussion item 13 on the memo relates to the
articulation of pole signs. He suggests that language be added regarding the
stock of the pole so that it may have articulated features. He wants to use,
'encourage articulation', instead of 'requirement'. The concept of a heritage sign
requires a process to keep a sign that otherwise does not comply. At the end,
there is a provision that states you can not remove a heritage sign. I don't
understand why the person who wanted to claim a heritage sign could not then
remove it. I suggest that the language that refers to the prohibition of deletion of
a heritage sign should be deleted. The way the Ordinance was originally
proposed, site plans would have to go through a development plan process that
involves a public hearing. It included sign approvals or initiation of landscape
rehabilitation, staff has changed it so that landscaping rehabilitation does not
have to go through a public hearing. The public hearing is a time consuming
process for something that is still going to be looked at by the Planning Director.
The appeal process is still the same. I feel the some way about an existing sign. If
there is going to be a change, it should not be forced through a public hearing
process. It is still going to be reviewed. I think this is a great start and I am very
supportive of what was done.
Commissioner Gifford suggested that with respect to signs not permitted, to
include changeable copy (marquis style) signs. On page 28 of the booklet that
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constitutes Exhibit A, the illustration is one we are trying to get away from. I
understand the desire for identification for Mariners Mile, but what I would like to
see specified that the graphics are for illustrative purposes only and the language
of 2.22 read, 'Installation of a new "Welcome to Mariner's Mile" sign at the new
Arches Bridge at Newport Boulevard facing southbound Pacific Coast Highway
traffic' This would allow a sign similar to whatever sign is at the other end of
Mariner's Mile. One of the things that was nice about this plan was the theme of
design continuity, having the two entry monuments from both the Dover /PCH
and the Arches Bridge /PCH perhaps be the same. I suggest that we don't adopt,
as a matter of City policy, that the lighted channel lettered sign like this would be
put on the bridge.
Chairperson Selich noted support of the changes made by Commissioner Tucker
and Commissioner Gifford.
Assistant City Manager, Sharon Wood asked for clarification of the alteration of
heritage signs.
Commissioner Tucker stated that if an applicant decides to take down a heritage
sign, the Planning Director should not have a say in that.
Ms. Wood noted that the language on Section 5 page 30 is not consistent. A
decision needs to be made whether to allow the Planning Director to permit the
removal or just leave the language that the owner may remove or alter it, but if
the owner chooses to do that, then the heritage status is lost and he has to
comply with the new regulations. The concern I have with the Planning Director
approval is that without any guidelines or findings to be made, we are leaving it
up to one person's opinion as to whether the sign is liked or not.
Commissioner Tucker noted that the cleaning or maintaining of a heritage sign
should not revoke its status. But if the sign is otherwise removed, then its status is
revoked.
Keenan Smith, City Lights Design agrees with the assignation suggested that
allows for the routine maintenance and cleaning of the sign and allows for the
owner to remove it for any reason he desires. I like the idea of the revocation of
the heritage sign status if the owner decides to alter or remove it.
Commissioner Gifford asked about the flags mounted to the Arches Bridge and
the Back Bay Bridge. It's nice to have banners, but if this is adopted as City
policy, does it pre -empt the rights to putting flags here to the association so that
other events could not put flags there? You could read this to say that Mariners'
Mile gets to install the flags and own the flag rights to those poles.
Ms. Wood answered that I never thought that was the intent. In light of the
change on page 27 where the language says the following graphics are
illustrative and apply to all the sections that follow, that concern should be
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covered.
Moffon was made by Commissioner Gifford for the adoption of the Mariners Mile
Strategic Vision and Design Framework with suggested amendments stated in
the memorandum to the proposed ordinance with the exception of items 5 and
12; understanding the clarifications of items 13, 15 and 17; and adding
changeable copy as prohibited signs to item 5, page 27 of the Specific Plan
District #5 and in any other place that it may appear in all the documents looked
at tonight.
At staff request, Commissioner Tucker clarified that item 17 regarding holding a
public hearing on an application for a Development Plan. If it is a sign of the
same basic size and location then it does not need to go through a public
hearing. If it is a sign in a different size or location, then it does. I am talking
about the replacement that is substantially the some in size and location is the
one that I don't think needs to go back through. If someone has a sign that is
rusting out and looking old and faded and they want to come in and put in a size
that is basically the same size and in the same location, they do not need to go
through the 10 to 60 day process.
Ayes:
McDaniel, Agajanian, Selich, Gifford, Kranzley, Tucker
Noes:
.
None
Absent:
None
Recused:
Kiser
SUBJECT: Annexation of Newport Coast /Ridge Area
• GPA 99 -3(C),
• Zoning Amendment No. 902 (PC Nos. 52 and 53), and
• Development Agreement No. 14:
Proposed General Plan Amendment, prezoning, and development agreement
necessary to provide for annexation of the Newport Coast /Ridge area to the
City (see vicinity map).
Commissioner Gifford recused herself from this matter due to a potential
conflict of interest.
Larry Lawrence, City's consultant for this project noted the following:
• City Council initiated annexation proceedings for the Newport Coast,
Newport Ridge areas last year.
• Staff has initiated the General Plan Amendment and pre- zoning actions
needed to identify the permitted land uses and other regulations that will
apply to the area upon approval of the annexation application by the
Local Agency Formation Commission (LAFCO).
• The proposed annexation area encompasses 5,441 acres at the
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GPA 99 -3 (C)
A No. 902
DA No. 14
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southeastern boundary of the City between the ocean and the San
Joaquin Hills Transportation Corridor.
• The entire area is within City's Sphere of Influence adopted by LAFCO.
• The annexation area includes the northeasterly portion of the Newport
Coast LCP Planned Community, which takes up the coastal zone portion of
the annexation area.
•
The overall LCP area actually extends all the way down to Laguna Canyon
Road beyond the annexation area. The Newport Coast LCP covers a wide
area and the annexation area within the City's sphere is only about half of
that area (4,700 acres).
•
The LCP annexation area includes most of the beach portion of Crystal
Cove State Park but not the inland portion.
•
The Newport Ridge Planned Community is the development area north of
the Newport Coast LCP and north of that up to the San Joaquin Corridor is
the area called the residual area that consists of open space, the old San
Joaquin Reservoir, the Coyote Canyon Landfill and the new Sage Hill
private school.
•
The proposed procedure is to adopt the existing County Land Use
designations and Zoning for the development areas as embodied in the
Newport Coast Local Coast Program and Newport Ridge Planned
•
Community Program documents.
Adopt conventional zoning for the residual area, which is consistent with
the existing County designations of the area.
•
The City would adopt both a Development Agreement with The Irvine
Company that is consistent with the existing Development Agreement
between The Irvine Company and the County and a Joint Powers
Agreement with the County that would retain County jurisdiction over land
use and development within the annexation area.
•
The purpose of keeping the land use jurisdiction with the County after
annexation is to ensure that development of the area and the dedication
of valuable habitat area under the NCCP is administered by County staff
familiar with all the provisions of the LCP and PC documents and
conditions of the Development Approval in a manner that is consistent
with the complex plans that are the result of years of planning and
environmental analysis.
•
County Development Review process - the Newport Coast LCP requires
approval of a Coastal Development Permit (CDP), which is an area plan
showing land use area, circulation and infrastructure, not generally project
or site specific. In addition, the County can also require the processing of a
Site Development Permit, which includes review of site plans, architecture
and landscaping plans. These would be site specific.
•
All residential and commercial development require the approval of a
CDP by the County Planning Commission. In the case of Newport Ridge, a
Site Development Permit is required for commercial and medium to high -
density residential development.
•
The pre- zoning would establish a PC Development Plan consisting of the
Newport Coast LCP for the Newport Coast area and the Newport Ridge
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Planned Community Program for the Newport Ridge area conventional
OS -P, Open Space Passive and GEIF zoning would be applied to the
residual area. These zoning districts would become effective upon
approval of the annexation by LAFCO.
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission forward the General Plan
Amendment, Prezoning designations, draft Development Agreement and the
Negative Declaration to the City Council with the recommendation for
approval.
Ms. Temple added that the issue of the County's retention of the land use
jurisdiction is only for the completion of the initial development as covered by
the planning documents. Land use authority will revert to the City for the
longer term once the initial development is completed.
Chairperson Selich asked what the definition of completion of development is?
He was answered that the documents in draft form include this phrase and is
part of the details that need to be worked out.
Chairperson Selich asked if this plan was amended through the County, this
• completion of development for the plan, is it annexed, or as completion of
development as they may amend the plan? For example, they talk here that
the plan will be completed in 2015, but these hotel sites have not been moving
so it may drag out longer than that. They decide to go back and amend the
plan and put something in different in one of the hotel sites. Would it be
completion of development on the original plan or the modified plan?
Ms. Clauson answered that through the completion date or turnover date that
is anticipated or agreed upon any amendments would be processed through
the County. Anticipatory build out date is 2015, which is the date that they are
held to. If the hotel sites were not built out at that time, it would transfer back
to the City irrespective of whether the hotels were built or not. The date is the
controlling factor. As things are developed, the agreement would terminate
for those final development projects in those areas.
Commissioner Tucker asked what happens if something different happens?
What if The Irvine Company decides it wants to do a General Plan
Amendment? It isn't in the existing Development Agreement, and it may be
that the County has retained the processing approvals for processing what is
there. I would imagine that to be subdivision maps, that type of thing. But a
wholesale change in land use, is that something that the City processes or does
the County have the authority to change what we thought we were getting
without us having any say so in it?
Ms. Clauson answered not to the extent that it would change the Land Use
Element or the General Plan that we are adopting in this process, that would
is have to be approved by the City. She agreed that it is just plans that are
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processed that are consistent with the zoning in the General Plan that presently
exist. The County would not be able to process it in the manner that would
change our General Plan without the City processing it as well. The Agreement
does not discuss whether the City must go along with the County decision in
this particular instance.
Continuing, Commissioner Tucker noted that if The Irvine Company does not
change any of the land use or zoning items, we do not review anything and
that would also entail the Site Plan for the commercial center in Newport
Ridge. Can we add something that makes it clear that a change in the land
use has to be processed through the City as a General Plan Amendment?
Ms. Clauson answered that the comments and recommendations from the
Planning Commission on this type of an issue can be incorporated and
considered. The understanding and agreement of this document and the
whole zoning and annexation that we are going through is that The Irvine
Company wants to be able to develop the property in accordance with their
current entitlements. That is what we are trying to reach an agreement on, not
to allow them to change those entitlements in the future. A wholesale change
of the entitlements of what they have envisioned would require Coastal
• Commission considerations as well as other considerations.
Ms. Wood noted that this point is addressed in the Development Agreement
Section 4.4 where it refers to changes and amendment. It is acknowledging
that over time there may be development of approvals. 'City shall expressly
permit and authorize modifications of any proposed changes in the existing
Development Approvals or Development Plan that are consistent with the Land
Use Element designations for the Property.... Further limitations can't reduce
open space, amount of property tax revenue that would come to the City or
increase the density and /or intensity of development...'
Ms. Clauson noted she could look at additional language. Commissioner
Tucker is looking at anything that would change our General Plan or our Land
Use Element as we are adopting it here. Continuing, she added that the
excerpt above does cover it because it states changing the density and /or
intensity of the development as well as any use as it would change the nature
of the entitlements.
Commissioner Agajanian asked about the [c] Zoning and rezoning adopted by
the County or the City under Section 1.1.6.
Ms. Clauson answered that she is not looking at this as a definition of the
development approvals, my understanding is as they are at the time this
agreement is entered into.
• Continuing, Commissioner Agajanian asked about item 15, Section 7.2. 'In the
event any Development fees or taxes are imposed on Development of the
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Property other than those authorized pursuant to this Agreement, OWNER shall
be entitled to receive from CITY restitution ...' Is this money that was over paid
to the County, and would the City have to make up the difference?
Ms. Clauson answered as she was not part of the negotiations and did not
know what the intent was behind this, she could not answer.
Chairperson Selich asked where the city limits would be in relation to the
Newport Coast LCP, whose sphere of influence would the land east of that
location be?
Ms. Temple answered that there was a time when the County was considering
placing that area in the Laguna Beach Sphere of Influence, but that City was
not interested. Therefore, that particular area is not currently in any sphere of
influence. Approximately, everything southerly or easterly of Crystal Cove State
Parks would be in the City of Laguna Beach Sphere of Influence since that is
the dedication area that represents the completion of the Laguna green belt
in that area.
Commissioner Tucker referred to Section 4.4. The first sentence states that, ..'The
• parties acknowledge that development of the project will likely require
subsequent development approvals, and that in connection therewith OWNER
may determine that changes are appropriate and desirable in the existing
development approvals or development plan. In the event OWNER finds that
such a change is appropriate or desirable, OWNER may apply in writing for an
amendment to prior development approvals or the development plan to
effectuate such change, which application shall be processed for approval by
County.' So it is the County that will process that approval to our General Plan?
Ms. Clauson agreed that is what this document is presenting.
Ms. Wood added that as long as the changes are consistent with our Land Use
Element.
Ms. Clauson read, 'CITY shall expressly permit and authorize modifications of
any proposed changes in the existing development approvals or development
plan that are consistent with the Land Use Element designations for the
property unless the proposed modifications would materially......' The
agreement lets this happen as long as it is consistent.
Commissioner Tucker asked if this means that there is any review by us for
consistency with the Land Use designation? How is it that we do that?
Chairperson Selich added that as long as any change is consistent, the City's
General Plan is the plan they are adopting so they are making an amendment
• to that plan and they are amending our plan. So their amendment is
automatically consistent. That is the deal that has been worked out, the land
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use approval has been ceded over to the County.
Mr. Lawrence added that the language expressly eliminates General Plan
Amendments from provisions of this Section.
Commissioner Tucker answered that is the part that is not clear.
Ms. Clauson added that the changes have to be consistent with the Land Use
Element and the Land Use Element is part of the City's General Plan. It says
specifically, that it has to be consistent with the City's Land Use Element.
Chairperson Selich stated that the land use plan on the vicinity map has
nothing designated by the City, it is all the County's plan. The County's is the
City's. The County is proposing to change theirs and we are saying that if they
are proposing to change theirs, as long as it is consistent with ours, but theirs is
ours, this is a circular deal.
Commissioner Tucker suggested that as long as they are not amending the
General Plan, the theory is it is consistent with the existing land use element, if it
is not, then it should require involvement by the City. I think it needs an express
statement. If that is what the intent is, that they are not going to be able to
come in and change the General Plan because that by definition would be
inconsistent with the Land Use Element, then why don't we have more
affirmative language that says that so it is clear?
Ms. Clauson stated that the process we are going through now is to adopt the
provisions of their Land Use Element as our own. Once it is adopted, your
interpretation of this is that they could later amend it and then by amending it
also amend ours by reference. Commission agreed. Continuing, Ms. Clauson
stated we would clarify that they can not do that.
Chairperson Selich stated that for example, the hotel site is the most risky. Let's
say they decide to change it to office, which is something totally different.
Now, what would the City's role be in that if the County or the Irvine Company
wanted to amend the plan that gets processed through the County?
Ms. Clauson answered that her interpretation of the agreement and with the
clarifications will make it that they can not do that. This agreement does not
allow them to do that.
Chairperson Selich noted that is the intent and you will look at getting the
language squared away for that.
Commissioner Kiser noted that is the way he reads this section, as circular
reasoning. Development Approvals as defined in Section 1.1.6 includes
• General plans and general plan amendments adopted by the County or the
City.
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Ms. Clauson answered that is not the intention. I agree that this needs to be
corrected.
Commissioner Tucker suggested that in Section 4.4 before the sentence,.... CITY
shall expressly permit and authorize... we add the sentence, 'The CITY shall
have no duty to approve of a change to general plan designation of any
portion of the property which exists as of the effective date hereof.' In other
words, once this agreement becomes effective, that is the plan and they can
build out that plan and process it through the County.
Ms. Temple noted that the County and The Irvine Company developed the
original LCP and very shortly after it was adopted, it was amended pursuant to
the final action of the Coastal Commission. After several years, the County
went through a process called the NCCP or Natural Communities Conservation
Program. An outgrowth of that program was to define better ways to provide
quality habitat preservation including areas in the Newport Coast. As a result,
some areas that had been designated for residential were deemed by the
NCCP to be important for habitat passage and connection. The Irvine
Company and the County worked on an amendment to not change the
• overall land use designations, not change the acreages of anything that was
allocated for those various uses, but they did move things around in order to
allow the superior habitat conservation plan to be institutionalized. The Irvine
Company is interested in maintaining that ability through interaction with the
County to make modifications to the plan. Where the line is drawn is significant
changes; increasing in density, changing land use, which are not consistent
with the concept of the plan as embodied in both the City's and County's
General Plan. What we are trying to find is language that allows the County to
continue to administer amendments that generally stay within the overall
character and intent of the City's and County's General Plan. Anything that
would constitute a significant revision to the project would need City approval.
Ms. Clauson agreed and recognized the issue of the circularity of this provision
in Section 4.4. We will work on language to make sure that does not happen.
Commissioner Agajanian noted his concern that once occupancy permits are
issued then that constitutes completion. Who issues that occupancy permit, is it
the County? He was answered yes. He asked who was paying for planning
services? He was answered that the planning service fees are all being paid to
the County for services provided. Hasa fiscal impact been done for this area?
Ms. Clauson answered that the fiscal impact on the City and the return from
this type of project is projected well above to handle any additional services.
Dave Kiff, Assistant to the City Manager stated that an update to the fiscal
analysis is done about every two months when we know more about the
assessed values in the area and if the annexation proposal changes at all. It
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consistently shows a net surplus to the City, which is part of the reason why the
City is interested in this. There is money assigned to the Planning and Building
Departments to actually transition the plans during that year period between
occupancy and when we get the final plans. That is in our budget. There are
a couple of shopping retail centers, one at the top of the hill at Newport Coast
Drive and San Joaquin Hills and then a second one in the flat graded area as
you drive down to Laguna on the left hand side of Coast Highway.
Chairperson Selich asked why there is no land use designation on the land use
diagram?
Mr. Lawrence answered that in that the reference to the text of the General
Plan Amendment is that contained in Exhibit GP -2 attached to the staff report.
That language provides the flexibility and points up to the need for more
specific language with regard to General Plan Amendments brought up in
previous discussions. The flexibility is in order for the commonality between the
Development Agreement and the General Plan text, without having map
designations that might interfere with that.
Public comment was opened.
• Alan Beek, 2007 Highland spoke in opposition to this proposed action. This land
is not appropriate for Newport Beach, it is in the character of the City of Irvine.
It belongs in the City of Irvine, it is comprised of gated communities and not of
our character. I recommend that you reject the application. In this case, the
people are denied the opportunity of a referendum. We are helpless in the
hands of the Planning Commission and the City Council. State Law will not let
us vote on annexations, people have no say on what happens to the
character and size of their City.
Public comment was closed.
Chairperson Selich noted that it is wrong to not have land use designations on
the map. This is something that is meant to inform the public what our land use
is and I don't see why we can't have the land uses designated. The language
should indicate that there is flexibility rather than the other way around.
Ms. Temple noted that she recommends that the current plans be mapped
and within the text of the document, indicate the framework within which
modifications are made and incorporate the concept of State Planning Law
for General Plans that the Land Use map is a diagram and not meant to be so
specific as to not allow some flexibility. We can make those changes along
with the final actions on this part of the entitlement to the City Council.
Commissioner Kranzley asked if any of these proposed actions could be
• divided out. He was answered that these actions are being handled by one
resolution. He noted that this process has been ongoing for some time. We are
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doing some positive actions to make the City different from other communities.
I am disappointed, however, that we don't have the opportunity in Newport
Coast to have some of the same vitality and differentiation in this area. We are
asked to put a lot of faith and hope in the hands of the Irvine Company or
whoever the subsequent owner is in some of these properties in the County of
Orange. The bottom line is that I am going to miss the open space down there,
it has been a pleasant peaceful area and I have a hard time looking at the
grading that is currently going on as the space disappears before my eyes. I
am troubled that we are not going to have any say on these projects as they
come up.
Chairperson Selich noted that this area was planned for some 25,000 units
many years ago. However, through negotiations, we have the open space
there that we will enjoy after the development occurs. It is a for superior plan
that what was proposed years ago.
Commissioner McDaniel asked what would happen if we voted no tonight? He
was answered that the Commission could vote not to recommend this to the
Council. However, it will go to the Council, no matter what the
recommendation is.
• Commissioner Kiser commented that he could not vote on this tonight as he
needs more time to read the documents that have been presented. I couldn't
possibly, based on the issues that were raised tonight, vote yes to send this on
to City Council. I have some real concerns with the way in which the
Development Agreement leaves all the planning decisions to be made by the
County and goes out to 15 years without any participation on our part. I have
had only two days in which I was extremely busy to review this development
agreement that was sent out on the 19th. I am not prepared regardless of what
the past process has been or how many years it has been worked on.
Regardless of how that property is developed now, it is not a part of our City so
we do not have the kinds of control we have as a Planning Commission for
property that is in the City of Newport Beach. If it is not in the City, it can be
developed and we can decide later whether to annex it. My main point is that
we have only had a couple of days to review the document. I would suggest a
continuance of this until our next meeting, which would give me the time to
review this matter in much more detail.
Commissioner Tucker commented that this property is going to be developed
the way that is presently proposed whether we like it or not. 1 think that our
ability to have some say so in what happens over an extended period of time is
probably worth while to us. If it is going to be developed and we are going to
be impacted by that development, we might as well have some financial
stake in what is going on. While I too certainly like to have the five few days we
generally get to review the packages, sometimes it is shorter. The only issue to
• me is the one that a deal is a deal, they can develop it the way it is designated
now and as long as the City has a soy -so in any changes in the land uses other
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than the carve out dealing with habitat matters, I think that is sufficient. It has
been a City Council matter and we have not been involved with it. It ought to
be sent to Council with our recommendations and let them deal with it.
Chairperson Selich noted his support of comments made by Commissioner
Tucker. There has been a committee that has negotiated this agreement. With
the understanding that the Assistant City Attorney has on the clarification on
that section regarding the changes in the plan, I think the intent of what has
been negotiated in the Development Agreement is something that we should
honor and move this forward. I don't think it is our role to get in there now and
try to change major deal points that have been reached in the Development
Agreement through the City sponsored negotiating committee. There are so
many different parties and interests in this, and I support moving this on.
Commissioner Agajanian noted his support of the previous comments. He
added that he is concerned with the City relinquishing its control powers on
land uses over to the County of Orange to continue with the development of
this site. The City has local control of land uses and to separate ourselves from
the actual decisions made there worries me. I would hate to see any further
annexations where we have to do it piecemeal like this.
• Ms. Clauson added that the concerns expressed by the Commissioners were
part of the negotiations. There has been quite a bit of debate on this.
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Commissioner Kranzley stated that the impacts are being felt in Newport Beach
as this project is being built. I support moving this forward to City Council.
Commissioner Tucker noted the frustration of getting complicated long
documents late, but this Development Agreement will probably change
several more times before it finally gets to the Council. We have a static
document right now, and we can make a suggested change, which the
essence is the City shall have no duty to approve of a change to the land use
designations of any portion of the property as of the effective date. The
language will have to allow the Irvine Company the flexibility to address
habitat types of issues where they have effectively kept the spirit of the existing
General Plan designation even though it may move. The overall intensification
and types of uses specified in the plan today are not going to be changed
unless the City allows that to happen.
Motion was made by Chairperson Selich to recommend approval to the City
Council of GPA 99 -3 [C] and Amendment No. 902 (PC Nos. 52 and 53) and the
acceptance of a Negative Declaration with the recommendation of language
change in Section 4.4 Development Agreement. This language is to resolve the
circular logic issue of the plan changes as well as staff modifying the Land Use
Plan Map as discussed.
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Ayes:
McDaniel, Agajanian, Selich, Kranzley, Tucker
Noes:
Kiser
Absent:
None
Recused:
Gifford
SUBJECT: Balboa Sign Overlay
• A No. 907
Proposed sign regulations for commercial properties on the Balboa Peninsula and
amendments to the Zoning Code to implement the new sign regulations.
Mark Brodeur, Urban Design Studios, 14725 Alton Parkway, Irvine consultant for the
City on this project presented a brief overview of the sign overlay guidelines
noting the following while presenting a slide demonstration:
• This ordinance is to encourage businesses on Balboa Peninsula to use
signs that adequately advertise themselves and provide identification on
the street while ensuring that the signs contribute positively to the charm
and character of the Peninsula.
• Prohibited signs once this overlay is approved will be - pole signs of which
• there is a large number; internally illuminated can signs with a translucent
plastic face; inflatable signs; vehicle signs.
• Permitted signs ground signs; roof signs; wall signs; directory; projecting;
canopy; awning and window signs all with restrictions as called out in the
overlay program.
• Included in the overlay program are helpful hints on designs and color,
types of materials, legibility, illumination and creative sign permit.
• A Creative Sign Permit allows for a sign that meets certain sign criteria can
be approved by the Planning Commission. The creative sign has to have
a certain conceptual criteria relative to Balboa Peninsula and
architectural criteria that have to fit in the building and the location in
scale and composition.
• A number of signs will be made non - conforming once this overlay is
approved and will no longer be permitted. The City will provide business
owners with an impetus to remove their signs by the following schedule:
Years 1 and 2 - the City would provide professional removal, new sign
design as well as professional sign fabrication.
Years 3 and 4 - the City would remove the sign and provide a new
sign design.
Years 5 and 6 - the City would remove the sign and waive the fees
Year 2015 - deadline for all prohibited signs to be removed
Commissioner Gifford noted this is a great program. She noted that as a member
of the committee who worked on this there was a great deal of discussion. Does
the finished document miss anything?
iMr. Brodeur answered that in his opinion, allowing roof signs is something that 1
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would not recommend. I can not think of a City that I have worked with that
allows roof signs as part of a new ordinance. The changeable copy signs I think
do more than identify a business. Basically signs are for identification, not to
advertise. There is still an exemption for time and temperature. The reason I bring
this up is, I remember you discussing at quite a length the last time I was here a
proposal for a time and temperature display. If you want to remain consistent on
that action, you might recommend to City Council, as a modification to this
document, that we look at the time and temperature exemption. Maybe you
can permit them with certain requirements rather than exempt them. There are
a number of signs that are permitted that are valuable and normally would not
be permitted in most business, i.e., 'A' frame signs, under canopy signs, projecting
signs, those types. Because of the 'main street' type businesses, studies have
shown that those types of signs are very valuable to these types of businesses
whereas roof signs and changeable copy signs have not shown that some value.
Ms. Wood noted that the provision for the 'A' frame sign is in conflict with Chapter
10 of the Municipal Code, which prohibits the use of public streets for commercial
displays. If the 'A' frame signs in the public right of way are something that the
Planning Commission feels strongly are beneficial and should be included in this
Ordinance, then you need to recommend that the City Council amend Chapter
•10 to make it consistent.
Mr. Edmonston added that there is a Policy and I think that these are a code
enforcement nightmare waiting to happen. Because they are portable, the
ones that crop up now have been routinely been denied with a couple of
exceptions along the Edgewater area in front of the Fun Zone. Those tend to
move around a lot. The owner may put them where they belong, or not where
they belong, each day when he brings them out, a passerby may move them.
They just don't seem to stay where they belong. There is a real concern of
allowing these up and down the Peninsula.
Commissioner Kranzley stated he is not in favor of changeable copy signs, nor
time and temperature signs. What is the argument for roof signs?
Mr. Brodeur answered that there are a couple of roof signs on the Peninsula.
Most people would say that those roof signs do not create a bad physical sign
environment. Some people tell you that they are quite attractive and dear to
their hearts. There was preponderance on the committee that they did not want
to start to prohibit those kinds of signs because they didn't really want to see a
particular sign go away.
Chairperson Selich asked if you could still allow a roof sign under the Creative Sign
Program it they come up with an unusual sign design and meet the criteria?
Technically there are some other pole type signs that should not be allowed, but
they are very creative and have been done tastefully.
Mr. Brodeur answered yes, we could go ahead and prohibit roof signs and the
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only roof signs that would be allowed were ones that went through the Creative
Sign process. Pole signs are allowed through the Creative Sign process as well. A
roof sign is permitted as a right, but it has to be approved as a creative sign. If
the sign is already permitted, perhaps the sign does not have to be as creative or
as great as a pole sign. The committee felt that pole signs should just be
prohibited and to get a creative sign pole sign would be a harder sell.
Commissioner Tucker noted that there were pole signs in the Mariner's Mile issue.
A requirement for an articulated base and a requirement for an articulated cap
encourages articulation of the pole. What people think of as a pole sign is the
white metal thing with no articulation with a sign on top of the pole. If you take
an articulated base, articulated cap with something in between and the sign
sticks off the side of the structure, it can be very attractive.
Mr. Brodeur agreed noting that you can make a recommendation to place pole
signs out of the prohibited chapter into the permitted chapter with a requirement
for creative sign, the same as we have done with a roof sign.
Ms. Wood noted that the difference in thinking between the two areas was the
pedestrian versus the highway character and the feeling that on Mariners Mile
• there is a greater need for a pole sign and there is less of that on the Peninsula. If
you reduced the height limit to what was suggested for the village area of
Mariners Mile, it might be more appropriate.
Commissioner Agajanion noted his support of the program. He asked about the
allowable projection of signs over the public right of way. Is it needed, was there
strong support?
Mr. Brodeur answered that in most downtown areas, the storefront is immediately
adjacent to the sidewalk and if you want to have a projecting sign, you are in
that condition that precludes you from having one. Most projecting signs project
as much as seven feet out from the face of the building. I have never had a
downtown merchant or city engineer tell me it is bad as long as there are certain
clearances from the bottom of the sign, in other words, people can't strike it with
a stick as they are walking by and destroy the sign. They have been used in
downtowns for hundreds of years. That use is appropriate. Because of the type
of businesses at the right of way, you would preclude the use of a projecting sign,
which has been historically appropriate for a sidewalk adjacent storefront.
Mr. Edmonston noted that in some areas we are looking at providing a very wide
sidewalk in re -doing Balboa. I can't imagine that we would want a sign that was
stuck ten -feet out from the building that was still two -feet back to curb and only
eight feet above the ground. A building that is not sitting on the properly line, to
not have them encroach into the public right of way would be appropriate.
• Mr. Alford pointed out that this is not something that is proposed by this overlay. It
is currently in the Code for all areas of the City and is the same as the clearances
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and projection limitations described in this document.
Commissioner Kiser stated that there has to be some exception for the
changeable copy signs for theater marquis, gas stations and museums.
Mr. Brodeur answered that excluded from a recommendation to prohibit
changeable copy signs would be theater marquis. Under the types of signs that
are exempt in the current Sign Ordinance, are bulletin boards for things such as
public education or religious institutions. The movie marquis are also exempt.
At Commission inquiry, he added that there are two types of banners. Banners
placed within the public right of way on light poles that are erected by the City
or Chamber of Commerce are not prohibited. The other type of banner is the
promotional banner. We permit promotional banner signs and allow one for
each business, has to be 32 square feet and below the roof line and can only be
up for a total of 90 days per year. Additionally, if someone wants to put up a
neon beer sign in his or her window, if it is within 3 feet of the glass, it qualifies as a
window sign. If it is inside the establishment, back 3 feet it falls within an interior
sign and is not regulated. If it is within 3 feet of the window then it can cover only
20% of that window. The sign can be neon, cut metal, wood, etched, etc. It
• was discussed that the maximum sign area for window signs is 20 percent of
window area for solid sign and 50% of window area for channel letters and must
be permanently placed on glass. This recommendation came from the steering
committee at their last meeting.
Mr. Alford added that there was no illumination on neon window signs allowed.
Commissioner Kiser asked about signs that emit noise, smoke, flashing, moving,
etc., are they prohibited? Staff answered that in a general statement in the
overlay, Chapter 20.67 provisions would prevail. Noise is covered under the Noise
regulations and any other types of emissions might also fall under the definition of
an animated sign (an action or movement of some type).
Chairperson Selich asked about the cumulative square footage of signs on one
building if you were to take all these different signs and put them on a building. Is
this overlay more or less restrictive on terms of square footage of signs than are
permitted under the existing Sign Ordinance?
Mr. Brodeur answered that it is less restrictive than the current Ordinance
because of the allowance of projecting signs, roof signs, wall signs, and window
signs. Those four categories alone take you beyond the categories currently
permitted. On the building, wall sign, projecting sign, awning sign, banner signs,
roof sign and window sign, six types of signs are allowed.
Chairperson Selich commented that one of the failures of the existing Sign Code
• is that it is too permissive on the amount of square footage, so wouldn't it stand to
reason that even though all of these signs are permitted, there would be some
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maximum of square footage that would be allowed?
Mr. Brodeur answered that the type of sign going to be permitted on Balboa
Peninsula are the types that are shown historically to work for downtown main
street types of businesses. The current Sign Code allows larger wall signs but it
does not allow the various types of signs that we are going to permit on the
Peninsula. A business on the Peninsula is going to be able to have four different
types of signs, awning, roof, window, and wall signs. Those types of signs are all
proportional to the types of businesses on the Peninsula. We went through an
exercise with the committee depicting sizes of signs based on formulas. To try
and regulate signs based on the maximum number of cumulative goes against
the spirit of this Ordinance. The spirit is to help some of these small businesses
identify themselves with these types of sings that we are bringing back. These
same signs are inappropriate on Harbor Boulevard, Pacific Coast Highway all the
other major arterials. The Peninsula is a very different part of town and the types
of signs allowed are appropriate to this area.
At Commission inquiry, Mr. Brodeur explained that a window sign versus an
awning sign versus a projecting sign wouldn't be visible from most angles. If you
look straight at a sign, you are not going to see a projecting sign, and probably
• not see the awning sign because it is constrained at ten inches on the awning
valance. We selected the types of signs based on historic pictures for these types
of buildings. The proportions of those signs are all appropriate. If a business uses
all of these signs, the building will not looked cluttered because the proportions
are specified in the overlay.
Commissioner Tucker noted that over time the Crab Cooker signage has
become an icon. Noting the Guidelines on page 44, it says that painted wall
signs directly on the structure are encouraged. Why did the committee think this
was a good idea?
Mr. Brodeur answered that the Peninsula storefronts are adjacent to the back of
the sidewalk. Historically, photos showing signs painted directly on the wall
above the windows and awnings was a common practice. The other reason is
that the committee felt that there needed to be an avenue for inexpensive type
signs. They were afraid that some of the creative signs would essentially price
some businesses out of business in trying to provide signs. Those are the two
reasons, historic precedent and cost.
Public hearing was opened.
Public hearing was closed.
Motion was made by Commissioner Gifford to recommend approval of
Amendment 907 to the City Council with the following changes:
. Prohibit changeable copy signs excepting theater /movie marquis, and
gas stations for the purpose only of pricing only.
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Eliminate the exemption for time and temperature signs.
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Create maximum area for window signs of 20% across the board.
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Pole signs - leave language as it is so there is a place for it with the
Creative Sign Program but that it is not something that is encouraged as
suitable for the area.
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Prohibition of 'A' frame type signs.
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Restriction on banners be a maximum of 30 days per use and 60 days per
calendar year.
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Only neon or channeled illumination shall be allowed at 20% as window
signage.
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Projecting signs limited to a maximum 4 feet (or 2 feet from within the
curb, whichever is less). into the public right of way and 2.5 feet in height
•
Change text in the general provisions section V.A.9 - 'Signs attached to or
placed on vehicles or trailers and which are visible from a public right -of-
way except signs painted on or otherwise permanently attached to a
vehicle in such a manner that the vehicle can be legally operated on
public rights -of- way, GF a ePt Vehide signs +e..,..wai:iy G#GIGhed to ,
provided the primary purpose of the vehicle and the
is regularly and customarily used of the vehicle is to transport persons or
property for the business with the signs attached or placed in such a
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manner that the vehicle can be legally operated on public rights -of -way.'
Corporate flags removed from list of permitted signs.
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Multi- tenant signs approval authority by the Planning Director, not the
Modifications Committee.
Discussion on following ensued:
• Dates updated.
• Sign Permit application for a Creative Sign subject to approval by the
Planning Commission.
• Policing of banners.
• Change in text on page 13 of the Guidelines for enforcement purposes.
• Multi- tenant signs approval authority.
Ayes: McDaniel, Kiser, Agajanian, Selich, Gifford, Kranzley, Tucker
Noes: None
Absent: None
SUBJECT: Coastal Bluff Development Review
Establishment of development review processing for coastal bluff properties
Senior Planner James Campbell noted a supplemental report for clarification of
• recommendations that can be done on an urgency basis.
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Item No. 6
Coastal Bluff
Development Review
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Chairperson Selich noted that he was uncomfortable with any type of
moratorium. He was under the misimpression that the Planning Commission
could recommend some type of Urgency Ordinance. Staff has explained the
legal limitations on this. I would not want to put any homes under a moratorium
situation. It seems that the best we are going to be able to do is to urge the
Council to direct staff to move ahead with developing a set of regulations that
fulfill our intent as fast as possible. Staff can figure out what the correct
techniques are, the sections of the code and whatever is needed to regulate it.
Staff has made a recommendation on all Coastal Bluffs. My concern is primarily
on Ocean Boulevard from Inspiration Point back to Poppy, because I think those
are the lots that are most threatened. It is an economic situation and those are
the most valuable lots where people would be inclined to spend the kind of
money to do the kind of bluff alteration we saw at the last Commission meeting.
Commissioner Kranzley expressed his concern about the bluff area that would
include Kings Road. I am more interested in the cumulative effect throughout
the City, so I would still be in favor of this working throughout the City.
Commissioner Gifford asked staff that rather than draft something that integrates
the whole situation, if you could do something more quickly related to just the
• Corona del Mar bluff?
Mr. Campbell answered that it would not be quicker, but the initial step we are
looking at is just to get discretionary review and that is straight forward whether it
be in a small or large area.
Ms. Wood noted that if this was to be expanded to everything that meets the
definition of coastal bluff citywide, it would take us a little extra time to
determine which of those areas do meet that definition.
Commissioner Kiser asked about the timing. If a moratorium was voted for and
limited to the coastal bluffs at the Corona Beach area, how long would it take to
go through the process of creating the development regulations that would be
appropriate for that site?
Ms. Temple answered that the typical cycle, once the regulations have been
developed that you want to adopt in the conventional fashion, if contained
within Title 20 requires public hearings before both the Planning Commission and
the City Council with adequate notice. It would have to be reviewed under the
California Environmental Quality Act as to whether we would need any
environmental documentation or not and it would require a minimum of two
readings at the City Council. With a Negative Declaration, offer the regulations
were developed we would be looking at something on the order of four to six
months minimum. If we were to choose an approach that did not require
anything more than an exemption under CEQA and did an amendment to Title
• 15, which is the Building Code, that does not of necessity require Planning
Commission review.
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Chairperson Selich stated that the City Council is expecting a recommendation
from the Planning Commission for the meeting on Tuesday on this issue. Would it
be appropriate then that if the Planning Commission made a recommendation
to the Council that staff investigate all of the emergency avenues that are
available for Ocean Boulevard on the short term and deal with all the bluffs as
fast as you can through normal procedures.
Staff answered that we do not have enough information to know whether we
can do something like that to expedite. We can go back and explore other
opportunities to move at least a partial solution more rapidly.
Commissioner Tucker noted that we have a policy in place in the General Plan
that we do not have the ability to implement the policy. I suggest that we make
the recommendation to Council that staff figure out how best to get there in the
quickest possible fashion. The policy states that the siting of new buildings and
structures shall be controlled and regulated to insure, to the extent practical, the
preservation of public views, the preservation of unique natural resources and to
minimize the alteration of natural land forms along bluffs and cliffs. Where the
urgency comes up is there is not the level of clarity in the actual implementation
• of that policy that there should be. We have now discovered that we should
have had something in place that allowed us to implement that policy.
Commissioner Kiser asked if this policy has no teeth in it, is there no way in which
we can enforce this?
Ms. Clauson answered that the existing regulations we have will take into
consideration that policy. There is nothing additional to that. The policy is stated
so that if you are making a decision on a Variance or a Modification or Site Plan
review, the policy is there for consideration of your decision that you make on
that. There aren't additional procedures to deal with a situation where it is not
before you, when it is just a Building Permit.
At Commission inquiry, Ms. Clauson stated that the concept of a moratorium is to
maintain the status quo. If the concern and potential pressure is identified as
being along Ocean Boulevard at this period of time, that is where the urgency
exists and the status quo needs to be maintained. The proposal could be limited
to that area if you establish those factors. Our proposal was that permits could
still be issued as long as it was not outside the existing footprint or the existing
grade on the property. We could if that is what is recommended where the
urgency and status quo needs to be maintained. The point of the moratorium in
this instance is for the purpose of conducting a land use study.
Chairperson Selich stated he was not in favor of a moratorium for reasons I
explained earlier and the way that staff has outlined it. If we were to do a
• blanket moratorium and not let anyone do anything on those properties, that
would not be very pleasant. I would like to find another way to deal with this
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problem other than a moratorium, as you can end up with some unintended
consequences that we may not even be aware of.
Commissioner Tucker agreed with the statement. I haven't seen any evidence
that there is a wholesale problem. What has prompted this whole thing was one
exceptionally ambitious proposal that came before us. I would suggest that we
make a motion that recommends to the Council that regulations be adopted to
review and evaluate bluff and cliff developments along Ocean Boulevard in
order to implement Land Use Element Policy D.
Commissioner Tucker asked staff at what point an applicant becomes bound by
the new regulations if they are adopted by City Council. What if the applicant
had applied for the permit before the Ordinance passed?
Ms. Wood answered that it depends on how flexible the City Council wants to be,
the Ordinance can have a grandfathering provision written into it through which
someone who had submitted for a Building Permit as of such and such a date,
can proceed under the old rules. Or, the Council could say unless the Building
Permit is issued by the effective date.
• Commissioner Tucker stated that the Planning Commission is saying, here is a
problem. We have a very important policy, which we do not have a way to
implement and we suggest that you adopt regulations. The Council will decide
whether there is going to be grandfathering and how important it is to act on our
recommendation and how quickly they want to act.
Discussion continued on the need, recommendation and timing of a moratorium,
inclusion of grandfathering clauses, timing of plan submittals, current project
applications and delays of planning processes.
Public comment was opened.
Lawrence Tabak, 3431 Ocean Boulevard read from a letter that he had written to
Councilmember O'Neil regarding a moratorium on building permits as it relates to
his property.
Chairperson Selich advised Mr. Tabak to meet with the Planning staff regarding
his plans
Commissioner Tucker noted to Mr. Tabak that there is a policy that exists in City
documents but there is nothing that implements that policy. By sending this
along to Council, we think they ought to come up with some type of regulations
that implements this policy. How they choose to do that is really their decision.
We are not getting specific about it here. The reason for the motion being what it
is to turn the matter over to staff, City Attorney and let the Council figure out what
• they want to do is to bring to their attention this policy. We are getting proposals
for houses that are 5,000 to 12,000 feet. 'What do you want to do Council ?' They
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set the policy; we just carry it out. When we see something where there is a clear
divergence of what the policy is versus what the regulations require, we bring it to
their attention. You have heard a discussion about moratorium that did not end
up going anywhere. We talk these things through in a public forum. You have
heard what the sense is, your approach in dealing with the Councilmember is the
right approach, and you should do that to try to influence how that discussion
gets carried out ultimately. The Council will decide how they want to deal with
this, how to implement this policy, what they want to do.
Public comment was closed.
Ayes: McDaniel, Kiser, Agajonion, Selich, Kranzley, Tucker
Noes: Gifford
Absent: None
SUBJECT: Fletcher Residence
21 Bay Island
Review of Condition No. 3 of Modification Permit No. 4919 regarding the removal
• of a tree located on the subject property in conjunction with the construction of
a new single family dwelling.
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Ms. Temple stated that staff is looking for direction from the Planning Commission
if they Ash to set this modification for review.
Chairperson Selich stated he would like to know from the applicant why they did
not preserve the tree.
Ms. Temple answered that we requested that information from the homeowner,
but have not received it. They have been informed of the discussion tonight and
are not in the audience. We have no course of action unless you would like to
call up the permit for review.
Commissioner Kranzley noted that when he read through the minutes, he pointed
out that it appears that the obligation was only that it they could keep the tree,
they would. It was not that they were required to keep the tree, there was no
condition stating that.
Chairperson Selich stated that he had assumed that if a condition was placed on
a project, staff, during the permit administration, would require the applicant to
provide some evidence before the tree was removed, it has to be removed for
this or that reason. That would be submitted and staff would review it and say
okay, your reason is acceptable, it is not possible to save the tree and go ahead
and take it out.
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Ms. Temple agreed that is correct. In talking to staff she determined that it was a
training problem and the person who signed off on it thought this was very loose
and did not require us to do anything. The staff has been instructed on how to
handle by including our urban forester in any future similar conditions for his
determination. The department accepts responsibility for not adequately
overseeing the enforcement of that condition. We are still attempting to get
information from the homeowner. I will keep it on the agenda as a means to get
a report.
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS:
a.)
City Council Follow -up - Assistant City Manager Sharon Wood reported
that at the meeting of September 12th, the City Council received a report
from their Task Force on Affordable Housing with a recommendation to
send a letter to the Irvine Company to proceed with doing a Senior
Affordable Housing Development on Lower Bayview Landing that would
fulfill The Irvine Company's responsibility for affordable housing for all the
market rate units they did as part of CIOSA, the area is designated Retail
and Service Commercial and is limited to a use of either a 10,000 square
foot restaurant or a 45,000 square foot athletic club with a specific
allowance for 120 senior citizen units with and underlying PC zoning and
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PC text. Additionally, the Newport Dunes Resort was removed from
calendar at the request of the applicant.
b.)
Oral report from Planning Commission's representative to the Economic
Development Committee - Chairperson Selich noted that the EDC
reviewed the Development Plan Ordinance and a committee has been
appointed to look at it. There was concern expressed as to the level of
involvement of the Planning Commission dictating details and how much
time it would add to the process on the smaller projects.
C.)
Matters that a Planning Commissioner would like staff to report on at a
subsequent meeting - Commissioner Kiser asked for a briefing on the sign
for Lovely Nails on Coast Highway, and if it was a roof sign. Commissioner
Tucker asked staff about the whether the implementation of a design
review type of requirement will mean that projects that are not presently
subject to a CEQA review will have to go through the CEQA review?
d.)
Matters that a Planning Commissioner wish to place on a future agenda
for action and staff report - Commissioners Tucker and Kranzley suggested
a change in the starting time for the meetings at 6:30 p.m.
e.)
Requests for excused absences - Commissioner Gifford stated she would
not be at the October 5 +h and 19}h meetings; Commissioner Tucker stated
he would not be at the November 9th meeting.
ADJOURNMENT: 11:30 p.m.
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STEVEN KISER , SECRETARY
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
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Additional Business
Adjournment