HomeMy WebLinkAbout09/27/1979COMMISSIONERS Special Adjourned Planning Commission MINUTES
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r Time: 7 :30 P.M. Date: September 27, 1979
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Present
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. V. Hogan, Community Development Director
ugh Coffin, Acting City Attorney
ames Hewicker, Assistant Director Planning
obert Lenard, Advance Planning Ad inistrator
red Talarico, Environmental Coord nator
on Webb, Assistant City Engineer
lenna Gipe, Secretary
inutes Written By: Glenna Gipe
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F�equest to consider proposed amend
Land Use, Residential Growth and Recreation
pen Space.Elements of the General
Preliminary review of a screen check
Study.
ents to the
and
Plan, and the
Initial
Items #
1 and 2
GENERAL
PLAN
AMENDMENT
NITIATED BY: The City of Newport
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GENERAL
AND
PLAN
AMENDMENT
equest to consider proposed amendments
ulation Element of the General Plan,
to the Cir
and the ac-
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eptance of an Environmental Document.
CONTINUED
NITIATED BY: The City of Newport
Beach
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ADJOURNED
Motion
Motion was made that discussion regarding
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ing site number 16.
g g site
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PLANNING
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MEETING.
ON OCTOBE
ommissioner Haidinger stated his
that an impasse regarding any one
ply that the General Plan would stand
understanding
item would im-
as is.
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ommissioner Balalis stated his pr ference to be-
in with discussion regarding site number I.
otion was then voted on, which MOTION CARRIED.
iscussion then began regarding Site No. 2, Jam -
oree Road and MacArthur Boulevard
Motion Lotion was made that Site No. 2, 8 mboree Road
and MacArthur Boulevard, be listed as a Public
Works Reserve or Park and Ride fac lity, as is
{he Local Coastal Program's recomm ndation.
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ugh Coffin, Acting City Attorney,
ould be required to leave some vi
roperty and that historically.the
ated the primary use as one for t
hat they have indicated also that
se is not feasible, that a second
omic use is designated on the pro
isallowing all the private viable
erty could be deemed as taking an
ation.
he Public Hearing continued rega
nd Robert Shelton, The Irvine Co
efore the Planning Commission an
his was permitted, in view of th
he public hearing notice, to whi
eek replied that they are taking
t this time.and that the City At
t a later date.
stated than it
ble use of, the
City has desig
e City, but
if the primary
ry private eco-
erty, because
uses of the pro
inverse condem-
ing this item
any, appeared
inquired wheth
limitations on
Commissioner
nl y straw vote
rney can advis
n response to a question posed by Commissioner
cLaughlin, Don.Webb, Assistant City Engineer;, re-
lied that the proposed loop would require pro -
ably 1/3 to 1/2 of the westerly portion of the
ite.
n response to a question posed by Commissioner
alalis, Richard Hogan, Community Development
irector, responded that it would be possible to
ark 125 cars per acre per level. .
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Motion
ommissioner Cokas requested the ationale behind
ommissioner Thomas' motion, to w ich.Commissione
homas replied that it would be a valid location
or a major arterial highway.
ommissioner Haidinger posed a qu�stion, to which
r. Hogan replied that there is a provision to
rovide an alternate use as well.
mendment to the Motion was made Jo a:dd the exist
ng General Plan designation as a secondary use.
r. Shelton again appeared before
ommission and requested that the
ion attempt to make appropriate
he suggested changes, including
ngs.and analyses, stating his fe
as been determined that would wa
ual way the change of use to a v
hich does not appear in the Gene
the Planning
Planning Commis .
ustificati.on fo
omments, find -
ling that nothi g
rant in a fac-
gue designation
al.Plan.
x x
Straw Vote was then taken.on the Amendment to the
s x x Motion, which MOTION CARRIED.
Ayes Y x x Straw Vote was then taken on the Potion, which
Noes x x x MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion then ensued regarding Site No. 3, San
Diego Creek.
Commissioner Balalis stated his a derstanding tha
the southerly 47 acres is the sit that is pre -
sently considered by NEWA as a de ilting basin.
Mr. Hogan requested that Commissioner Thomas writ
a definition of what he 'intends "Public Works Re
serve" to mean, to be incorporated as part of the
Genera -1 Plan.
Motion x Motion was made to change the 12 acres on.the nor
Itherly site and the 47 acres on the, southerly sit
into a Public Works Reserve.
Motion x Substitute Motion was made that t e southerly 47
acre portion of this parcel be re oved from the
Motion on the floor, with the and rstanding that
. it be considered later.
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Motion
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Substitute Motion was made that the
southerly 47
All Ayes
acres be considered as a Public Works
Reserve, .
which includes, but is not limited
to, a desilting
Basin, upon which a Straw Vote was
taken.
Motion
x
Motion was.made that the 12 acres on
the northerly
site be planned as a Public Works
Reserve.
Motion
x
mended Motion.was made to include
as a secondary
use the addition of retail and ser
ice /commercial-
o the 12 acres on the northerly side
of Univer-
ity Drive.
n response to a question posed by
Commissioner
leek, Mr. Hogan replied that the p
actical aspects
of designating primary and seconda
y uses is that
if the public didn't acquire the p
operty and put
to the use designated in the Ge
eral Plan, it
ould-b.e the right of the.property
owner to come
im with a proposal for the seconda
y use and the
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N blic would then. have to make the
ether they.intended to purchase
decision as to
that for public
or not, and if not, then
he property
fiurposes
ner would be given the right to
roceed with the
secondary use.
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obert Lenard, Advance Planning Ad inistrator,
nformed the Planning Commission t at the existing
eneral Plan designations on both this and the
revious site all "ow commercial, in ustrial and
ffice uses with no square footage limitations and
hat in the past when a site did n t have an adopt
d P -C development plan, staff has made estimates
f a reasonable density factor, ba ed on some
xisting developments and that on hese two sites,
he density is low.
n response to a question posed by Commissioner
llen, Mr. Hogan replied that the jublic in.many
nstances can proceed to acquire funds through
and issues and don't have to have the funds on
and immediately, and must come before the Plan-
ing Commission with either a P -C Dr a Use Permit
t which time a square footage is established,
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Ayes
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Ayes
Noes
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x
x
x.x
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
Straw
Vote was then taken on the A
hich'MOTION CARRIED. .
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t�raw Vote was then taken on the M
CARRIED.
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ended Motion,
tion, which
MOTION
Discussion
regarding Site No. 4, N
rth -Ford, then
began.
Motion
Motion
lotion was made that Site No. 4 be
planned for re -l'
use at a density of 6 dw
lying units per
buildable
acre specifically with tie
understanding
that
buildable acres does not incl
de anything in
she. over 65 CNEL zone and with the
further under -
standing that the density will be
increased to
ligher
densities if the landowner
5uggests appro-
Iriate
proposals for development.
in
response to.a.,question posed by
Commissioner
laidinger,
Ke.ith Greer, The Irvine
Company, ap-
before.the Planning Commiss
on and replied
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teared
hat the density of Westcliff Grov
is approxi-
nately
7,000 sq.. ft. lot size aver
ge and there .
is
a total of 29 units.
Steve
Sendlund, The Irvine Company,
appeared be-
the Planning Commission and stated
that ac-
core
ording
to the EIR supplement for
orth- Ford, .the,
area
is approximately 37% of the site
that would
be
affected by the 65 CNEL or larg
r.
ommissioner Cokas expressed his f
eling that it
would
be a mistake:to go with anyt
ing but a com=
ercial development, as proposed.
Motion
x
Amendment
to the Motion was made t
at the 6 dwell-
ing
units per acre figure be chang
d to 4 dwelling
nits per acre.
Motion
x
Amendment
to the Motion was made t
eliminate the
provision:that
allows developers t
come in with
i
plan for development that could
al.ter the den-
!
ity.
ommissioner Beek accepted these a
endments as mo-
ifications to be incorporated int
his original
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otion.,
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Ayes x x x ltraw Vote was then taken on the M tion, which
Noes x x !OhTTION CARRIED.
n response to a question posed by Mr. Lenard,
ommissioner Beek stated his intention regarding
his motion that the 65 CNEL contour can be moved
f appropriate structures such as terms, walls.,
andscaping or depressing or relocating the free -
ay occurs.
Motion x Notion was made to reconsider the revious motion.
in response to a question posed by Commissioner .
Allen, Mr. Sandlund replied that tie chart in-
cludes the CNEL noise contours fron the noise gen-
rated by Jamboree Road and the cu rent alignment
eing considered by Orange County foe the Corona
el. Mar freeway extension and does not include
the traffic from MacArthur Bouleva d and that the
dower 65 CNEL line represents nois generated. by
• the new alignment of the combinati n of the ex-
tension of the Corona del Mar free ay as it con-
nects with MacArthur Boulevard.
Ayes
x
x
x
x
x
Motion
was then voted on, which MO
ION CARRIED.
Noes
Motion
x
Potion
was made that the North-Fori
parcel be
lanned for a residential use at tie
density of
dwelling units per buildable acra
with the
understanding
that the area over tie
65 CNEL zone
rot
be counted:as buildable, and t
at the 65 CNEL
Tine
be drawn to include noise generated
by the
roposed Corona del Mar freeway after
mitigation.
ommissioner Haidinger explained that
his reason
for stating the motion such was to
avoid homeown-
rs who will become irrate if the
freeway is ever
uilt.
ommissioner.Cokas again expressed
his feeling
hat this is a.classical industrial
area that
hld be developed in that way.
Vote was then taken on the Motion,
Lra
which
Ayes
x
x
x
OTION CARRIED.
Noes
x
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x
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he Planning Commission recessed
econvened at 9:10 p.m.
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9:00 p.m..and
iscussion then began regarding Si a No. 6. Mr.
ogan informed the Planning Commis ion of a few,
hanges and additions in the Staff Report regard -
ng said site, stating that the to al remaining tc
e developed is 1,447,000 sq. ft. ess 105,000 sq.
Motion Motion was.made that the remaining vacant.areas o
Newport Center be planned for resi ential use at
density of 8 dwelling units per uildable acre, .
with the understanding that increa ed density will
Ile provided if appropriate proposa s are made.
M +ion x Amendment to the Motion was made that higher den-
sities would be allowed if there was a demon -
trated significant public benefit consistent wit
ealth, safety and welfare.
ommissioner Beek stated his acceptance of this
mendment to be included in his motion.
ommi.ssion:er Cokas inquired of the - Planning_C'om-
ission the purpose of changing the General Plan
s "it - presently exists, to which Commissioner'
eek responded with his feeling that Newport Beac
as an over - abundance of commercial development,
severe employment imbalance and that by adding
urther commercial, the imbalance is exaggerated
n an area which is more "desirable for residen-
ial.
4r. Shelton appeared before the Planning Commis-
sion and inquired whether Commissioner Thomas in-
ended to imply moderate income housing, to which
ommissioner Thomas replied that it would be the
determination of.the City Council and he also
•,inquired whether Commissioner Beek could ,cite
!studies or analyses that.could 'support the concl-u
• sions inherent in his remarks, to which Commis-
sioner Beek replied that accordin to a study mad
by Dave,.Dmohowski previous- .Advan a Planning'.Ad-
ministrator, Newport Beach has mo e
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an its share per capita of comme
hts.
ike McLaughlin, Pacific Mutual, a
he Planning Commission and expres
elated to Blocks 700 and 800, sta
404 sq. ft. was planned as an exp
earning center, feeling that it w
n additional burden on the traffi
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ial develop-
peared before
ed his concern
ing that the
nsion of their
uld not cause
r. Hogan responded that Block 800 is the Pacific
utual P -C, which was approved by h%City Council
or the development of the 27 -stor towers, not
part of this General Plan Amendm nt, although
he land is still vacant.
on Hendricks:on,.The Irvine Compan
ore the Planning Commission and r
revious actions which they have t
o Civic Plaza, and that in relian
• iions of the Planning Commission a
Ouncil, there are currently plans
Ongs that have been in the City Bu
ent for over a month, representin
in excess of $200,000.
Motion x ubstitute Motion was made that th
ommercial areas remain as they ar
eption that the 29 acres at Newpo
lanned for residential uses at 10
per acre and that a Phasing Plan b
approved by the Planning Commissio
¢il for the development of the rem
port Center.
In response to a question posed by
thomas, Mr. Hogan relayed a map th
that the 65 CNEL involves about"
Borth end of the site.
, appeared be-
minded them of
ken with regar
e upon the ac-
e the City
for two build -
lding Depart -
an expenditur
designated
with the ex-
t Village be
dwelling units
prepared and
and City Coun
inder of New-
Commissioner
t indicated
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ommissioner Cokas stated his conc rn relevant to
he Planning Commission attempting to discern
he location of the 65 CNEL zone , inquiring
hether there was some way of increasing the num-
er of dwelling units from the 339 figure to a
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mber proposed by the developers,
ssioner Balalis replied that thi
ptable to him.
ith Greer, The Irvine Company, p
.which Mr. Hogan replied that .th
the General Plan originally, wa
& Island, was not removed from t
d should be subtracted from the
aving only 245.
to which Com-
would be ac
sed a question
94 figure was
amended by
e General Plan
39 figure,
Motion x Amendment to the Motion was made t increase the
existing dwelling units`. by 290 and reduce the
existing office and commercial by 70,000 sq. ft.,
including a Phasing Plan for the development of
he remainder of Newport Center.
Commissioner Balalis accepted Comm ssioner Cokas'
mendment to be included in his motion.
Motion x ubstitute Motion was then made th t the remaininc
A x rea of Newport Center be planned or residential
No s x x x x se at a density of 7 dwelling uni s per buildable
acre, excluding the 9404 sq, ft. i volved with
pacific Mutual's learning center, pon which a
Straw Vote was taken.
Ayes x x x x $.traw Vote.was then taken on the p evious Sub -
Noes x Y x titute Motion, which MOTION CARRI D.
The Planning Commission recessed at 11:00 p.m.
and reconvened at 11 :10 p.m.
iscussion then began regarding Si a No. 7, Bay -
iew Landing.
dommissioner Beek suggested approa
ine Company projects as an entire
veal Coastal Planning Advisory Co
estions concerning density transf
etween these parcels and consider
vacant parcels, but Promontory Poi
ort areas which have already been
Io
hing The Ir-
y in lieu of t
mittee's sug
rs among and
not only the
t and Park New
developed.
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Motion Motion was made re 9 9
ardin Site No. 7 that Public
Recreational be included in Al tern to Use No. 6,
or a lesser intense use.
Motion x Amendment to the Motion was made that Site No. 7
Ayes x x xx x be low = density residential at 4 dwelling units pe
Noes K x acre as an alternate use, and to b ild residentia
on the lower portion to allow a view corridor,
%hich is to be figured by the tote units per acr
on the entire site and put on the lower site, upo
I hich a Straw Vote was taken.
Ayes x x x Ix Sit raw Vote was..then taken on the M tion, which
Noes x ION CARRIED.
iscussion then began regarding Si a No. 8.
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{�r. Greer again appeared before th Planning Com-
mission and addressed himself to the three proper -
ties on the backbay: Castaways, N wporter North
and West Bay, stating that the comments from the
representative from Fish and Game nvolve areas
that can be worked out in the refinement of the
lan. He requested that the Plann ng Commission
aintain.the present General Plan n these three
ites, as they see no reason to re uce the General
lan designation of these sites fr m the stand -
Doint of either traffic or residen ial character.
ommissioner Balalis expressed his feeling that
he transfer from one site to anot er is an ex-
ellent idea, and that it would be necessary to
ransfer to a location that would of impact the
ay.
ommissioner Cokas expressed his f�eling that fro
he standpoint of traffic, to incr ase the densit
t Castaways would be counter to.g od traffic.
ommissioner Haidinger agreed that conserving the
ay was one objective, but that cl stering homes
n one area.to save the bay may br'ng other un-
avorable results.
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Commissioner
Thomas expressed his feeling
that
they
are ignoring the tenants of the
Coastal Act.
Commissioner
Balalis stated-his un
erstanding that
it
would be necessary to reduce the
existing den-
sity
of Castaways and then increase
it with the
ensity transfers.
r. Hogan inquired regarding the purpose
and an-
ent of the density transfers, stating
that nor-
ally when densities are assigned
nd there is a
ossibility of density transfers,
he person who
as the property is allowed to dev
lop the pro -
erty at that density; however, if
he determines
hat he doesn't want to develop th'
.property, he
las
the right to transfer those pr
perty rights
too
another property owner at anoth
r location and
that
is normally not for public pu
poses, but pri-
vv�ate
purposes., and that if it is tie
intent to
deduce
the intensity of developmen
on the West-
gay
Site and not to allow it-to be
developed at
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intensity of development
then.the
Icertain
orrect intensity of development s
ould be assigne
t this time.
ommissioner Beek stated his under tanding that t
lanning.Commission would like to ee Castaways
avant or low = density, but that th Westbay Site
as specific view prospects which hey wish to
reserve; the Newporter North area has specific
abitat buffer areas, Eastbay and ayview Land -
ngs are specific points to be pre erved, leaving
astaways as the "catch -all ".
Motion x otion was made that Castaways be Jesignated as
ow- density residential at 4 dwelling units per
cre, excluding the 5 acres at the bottom to re-
ain commercial.
Motion Rmendment.to the Motion was made t include plus
r minus those units transferred from other Irvine
tompany sites around the Upper Bay.
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Ayes x lit
Vote was then taken on the A endment, which
I Noes x x MOTION CARRIED.
Motion Amendment to the Motion was made t at the 5 acres
Ayes x x in the southerly portion be zoned obile home.par
Noes x x rather than commercial, to maintai the existing
oderate and low- income housing, u on which a
Straw Vote was taken.
Ayes
Noes
K
K
x
x
x
K
x
Straw
Vote was then taken on the Motion,
OTI N Cam! RRIED.
which
Discussion
then ensued regarding S
te.No. 9.
Motion
K
Notion
was .made that the General -P
an.designation
be
4 dwelling units per buildable acre,
that it be
designated
a density transfer area
and that the
density
be transferred to Castaway
.
Motion
x
mendment to the Motion was _made that
only 3/4
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f those building units be transferred
to Casta-
I'ommissioner
Thomas accepted Commi
sioner Beek's
mendment to be included in his motion.
Motion
x
mendment to the Motion was made t
delete the
Ayes
x
x
x
transfer
of the dwelling units to
astaways, upon
Noes
x
a Straw Vote was taken.
l,hich
Motion
x
Substitute
Motion was made that th
3/4 be trans-
lIerred
to the North -Ford Site, rat
er than the
castaways
Site.
ommissioner Beek expressed his co
cern that the
nits would be considerably less v
luable on
North
-Ford than they would on one
f the parcels
on
Upper Bay.
Ayes
x
Yx
traw Vote was then taken on the S
bstitute Mo-
Noes
x
x
x
x
ion, which MOTION FAILED.
Ayes
x
x
Yx
x
Straw
Vote was then taken on the M
tion, which
Noes
x
x
0I0N CARRIED.
iscussion then began regarding Site
No. 10,
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Motion
Potion was made that Site No. 10 be
low- density
Ayes
x:x
x
esidential at 4 dwelling units per
buildable
Noes
x
x
x
cre, all of.which would be transferred
to the
Castaways site, upon which a. Straw
Vote was taken
Discussion then began regarding Site
No. 11;
Oewporter North.
Motion
Potion was% made that Site No. 11,
iewporter North
be planned at 4 dwelling units per
buildable acre
ith ; of the units transferred to
Castaways.
Commissioner Haidinger suggested deleting
the
ransfer.
ommissioner Beek explained that h included the
ransfer due to the archaeological site which woul
eed to be protected in some way.
Motion ' mendment to the Motion was made t at the trans
A x x x 'e optional, upon which a Straw Vote was taken.
Not x x
Ayes x x x x Straw Vote was then taken on the.M tion, which
Noes x MOTION CARRIED:
he :Planning Commission recessed aft 11:00 P.M.
nd reconvened at 11:10 p.m.
Discussion then began regarding Site No. 16,
Mouth of Big Canyon.
Motion K Potion was made that Site No. 16 be low- density
t 4 dwelling units per buildable acre and that
hese units be transferred to Castaways.
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ommissioner McLaughlin stated her opposition to
he motion, expressing her concern regarding trans
erring dwelling units when builda 1'e area is not
efinitely defined and the total n mber of dw;ellin
nits is not known.
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ommissioner Beek expressed his fe ling that they
s no buildable space in this area and the curre
eneral Plan designati.on is Open S ace with Resi-
ential as an alternate use, and s ggested that
he motion be withdrawn.
Motion
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otion was made to.leave Site No.
6 at its cur -
All Ayes
rent designation, upon which a.Str
w Vote was
i aken.
Mr. Lenard stated. that they had al
ocated some-
here between 370 and 425 units to
the Castaways
site, assuming only a 2'5% figure loss
to buildable
Icreage, when in reality it will p
obably be
much greater.
Motion
x
otion was made that density trans
ers to Casta-
ways not be made, but that the dwelling
units
fie left on each of the sites.
M ion
otion was made to table the previ
us motion to
A
x
x
x
x
ollow discussion of Site No. 1.
Noes
x
x
Abstain
x
liscussion then began regarding Site
No. 1, Koll
enter.
Motion
x
f1lotion was made that Koll Center b
rezoned as
concerns the three major undevelop
d parcels, Of-
fice Sites A, B and C, with the ex
epti,on of a
small corner of Site B, to 8 dwelling
units pler
acre residential, with the understanding
that
Nigher dwelling units will be allotsed
if approp-
late uses are proposed.
r. Lenard stated that it had come
to the staff's
ttention that there is a General
Plan Amendment
oefore the City of Irvine on a project
called
Douglas Plaza at the intersection
and adjacent to
MacArthur Boulevard and Campus Drive
from Koll
enter Newport. He added that there
is an exist -
General Plan allowance in Irvine
for 350,000
Png
q. ft. of commercial office development
and.an
gxisting hotel and office uses on
the site and
hat there is a proposal for a General
Plan Amend -
ent that is being made by the developer,
McDonnel
ouglas, to add 350 residential condominium
units
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of bachelor
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nd one and two bedroom units rang
rom.$65,000 to $100,000 and the d
aken the position that these unit
ny traffic problems that have bee
he 350,000 sq. ft: of commercial -
oint where the net traffic impact
ent would be less, and he is requ
mount by which the traffic is red
ack.to him in square footage for
ffice uses.
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ng in price
veloper has
will mitigate
generated by
ffice to a
with his amend -
sting that the
ced be given
he commercial-
ommissioner Allen expressed her o servation that
esidential is considered by someo a with more
conomic expertise as a good alter ative on this
ite and that a residential mix wi h the existing
ommercial greatly reduces traffic
r. Hogan expressed his concern th
oes not provide the facilities ne
ential development in.anywhere ne
icinity of that residential devel
ne justification provides for liv
ity,of the working area.
avid Dmohowski, The Irvine Compan
ore the Planning Commission and i
hat a proposal of this sort was b
he Irvine City Council in the rec
nvolved the introduction of resid
nto the Irvine Industrial Complex
ity Council rejected an applicati
-C in that area because of the la
ial support facilities and other
menities.
t this proposal
ded by resi-
r the immediate
pment, but the
ng in the vici-
, appeared be-
formed them
ought before
nt past which
ntial units
area and the
n to amend the
k of residen-
esidential
endment to the Motion was made t eliminate Sit
at the corner of Jamboree Road a d Campus Drive
om consideration.
r. Shelton again appeared before the Planning.
ommission and relayed some inform tion regarding
cDonnell- Douglas; stating that in addition to
he developers wanting to add to tie intensity of
evelopment already authorized, his proposal for
50 units works out to 45'u:nits to the acre, and
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MINUTES
September 27, 1979
f x w 6tv of Newport Beach
sked the Planning Commission to consider that if
he objective is to put affordable housing in
ommercial places to have close proximity to work,
hose are the kinds of density lev is that make
ense.
Motion x Teted stitute Motion was made to reduce by 30% the
ail and office space, that the ourthouse re -,
n the same, that the industrial space be re by 30 %, that the restaurant remain as it is
find that the hotel remain as it is, using as the
base point for the 30% reduction that each of. the
owners would be allowed the initial 30 %, and the
0% remaining would total 673;767 and the reduc-
ion would be 30% of that 673,767 figure, for a
remainder of 471,637 added back to the initial
0% figure.of 238,756, to give a t tal of 760,393
sq. ft., plus the hotel.
Motion Y ,mendment to the Substitute Motion was made that
prior to computing any density reductions of any
percentages, that the 141,021 sq. ft. that has no
een built on the existing fully- developed sites
first be deleted, leaving a total square footage
f 552,108 sq. ft.
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�n.response
to a question posed.by
Commissioner
alalis, Mr Shelton expressed their
feeling that
ite C is not suitable for residen,
ial use, but
f residential use is under discus
ion, one must
lso discuss realistic figures.
fr.
Hendrickson appeared before th
Planning Com=
fission and stated regarding Site
that based on
he ADT on MacArthur Boulevard and
Campus Drive,
r. Percell sent comments regarding
the CNEL line
n said area, indicated that 100 f
east of Mac-
Arthur
Boulevard is 72 +.CNEL and an
they 100 ft.
is 68 CNEL and going 200
Ft. further -in
Iasterly
s.64 CNEL, which shows a highly i
pacted noise
•area.
Ayes
x
x
x
'Straw
Vote was then taken on the A
endment, which
Noes
xf
x
x
OTION_F�Fl LED .
Motion x Teted stitute Motion was made to reduce by 30% the
ail and office space, that the ourthouse re -,
n the same, that the industrial space be re by 30 %, that the restaurant remain as it is
find that the hotel remain as it is, using as the
base point for the 30% reduction that each of. the
owners would be allowed the initial 30 %, and the
0% remaining would total 673;767 and the reduc-
ion would be 30% of that 673,767 figure, for a
remainder of 471,637 added back to the initial
0% figure.of 238,756, to give a t tal of 760,393
sq. ft., plus the hotel.
Motion Y ,mendment to the Substitute Motion was made that
prior to computing any density reductions of any
percentages, that the 141,021 sq. ft. that has no
een built on the existing fully- developed sites
first be deleted, leaving a total square footage
f 552,108 sq. ft.
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_ September 27, 1979
m
1 51 14. 11 6tv of Newport Beach
Ernie Wilson, The Irvine Company, appeared before
the Planning Commission.to express his feeling
;hat this wo.uld not be at all equitable.
Ayes x Y x 6traw Vote was. then taken on the Amendment to the
Noes x x x x ubstitute Motion, which MOTION FAILED.
Motion
x
Revised Substitute Motion was made
that regarding
omumn "B ", the 107,000 figure be
taken out of th
eduction figure, that Comumn "C"
then adds up
�to 712,000 sq. ft.,.that 76% of 712,000
sq. ft. o
24% reduction of the current remaining
allowabl
e calculated at 526,000 sq. ft.,
that the 107,00
q. ft. be added back, for a remainder
to be.de-
�reloped of 633,000 sq. ft.
Mr. Lenard explained that the two
figures between
plternate.l, an allowable from today
forth and
k1ternate 2, the area already constructed
are not
omparable and one figure must be
subtracted.from
the other to make them comparable.
Motion
x
Revised Substitute Motion was made
to give a 30%
eduction and use Alternate 2 in all
other re-
ards, for a total figure of Column
"C" at approx
mately 40,000 sq. ft. less than the
number shown
or a total to be built of approximately
620,000
�q. ft.
Motion
Amendment to the Substitute Motior
was made that
Ayes
x
K
x
he 30% be left untouched and instead
of taking
Noes
x
x
x
x
0% of the:remaining 70 %, a 50% r
duction in the
remaining 70% be made, upon which
a Straw Vote
was taken.
Ayes
x
x
x
K
Straw Vote was then taken on the Revised
Substi-
Noes
1K
x'
x
tute Motion, which MOTION CARRIED.
Motion
Ayes
Noes
0
ll, jxjjjotion M was made that the Planning Commission ad-
x x x x x .ourn at 12:30 a.m. to a special djourned Plan -
ning Commission meeting on Octobe .4, 1979 at
2:00 p.m. in the City Council Cha bers.
Debra A1Ten,
Planning Comm
City of Newpo
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ssion
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