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CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
Planning Commission Minutes
October 9, 1997
Regular Meeting - 7:00 p.m.
Present: Commissioners Fuller, Ridgeway, Kranzley, Gifford, Adams,
and Ashley - Commissioner Selich arrived at 7:10 p.m.
STAFF PRESENT:
Sharon Z. Wood, Assistant City Manager,
Community and Economic Development
Patricia L. Temple, Planning Director
Robin Clauson, Assistant City Attorney
Rich Edmonston, Development Services Manager
Ginger Varin, Planning Commission Executive Secretary
Minutes of September 18. 1997:
Motion was made by Commissioner Fuller and voted on to approve, as
written, the September 18, 1997 Planning Commission Minutes.
Ayes:
Fuller, Ridgeway, Selich, Kranzley, Ashley
Noes:
none
Absent:
none
Abstain:
Adams, Gifford
Public Comments: none
Postina of the Aaenda:
The Planning Commission Agenda was posted on Friday, October3, 1997
outside of City Hall.
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SUBJECT: The Cannery Restaurant (Western Canners
Company, Inc., applicant)
3010 Lafayette Avenue
• Use Permit No. 1521 (Amended) and
Use Permit No. 1684 (Amended)
Request to allow a change in the operational characteristics of an
existing restaurant facility (Use Permit 1521) to permit the addition of a
dance floor on the second floor. Also included in the application is a
request to allow the use of amplified sound in conjunction with the
permitted live entertainment which is currently prohibited by the
conditions of approval of Use Permit 1684.
Patrick Alford, Senior Planner presented the staff report noting the
following:
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unique use under the regulation of two use permits, one for the
restaurant and one for live entertainment
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staff recommends Use Permit 1684 for live entertainment be
permitted to lapse (due to expiration) and the rights granted by it
be incorporated into an amended Use Permit 1521
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no current conditions on the hours of operation for restaurant nor for
the live entertainment
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applicant proposes the restaurant be open for food and beverage
service between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 2:00 a.m., seven (7) days
a week
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applicant proposes the live entertainment (with amplified sound)
and dancing be allowed between the hours of 8:00 p.m. and 1:00
a.m., Monday through Friday, and 12:00 noon and 1:00 a.m. on
Saturday, Sunday, and on holidays.
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a change to dance floor would increase overall occupant load
from 28 to 60 persons requiring an additional eleven (11) parking
spaces
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currently there is a surplus of two (2) parking spaces, the proposed
change would create a deficit of nine (9) parking spaces
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an occupancy limit of 278 persons will insure that the off - street
parking demand will not exceed the number of spaces currently
available.
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noise measurements have been taken in the area during evening
hours with no violation of the Community Noise Control Ordinance
found
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citizens have complained of noise disturbances by patrons who
arrive and depart the area as well as from loud music
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the character of live entertainment is best addressed through the
live entertainment permit
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recommended additional conditions to address security, loitering,
special events, adjacent area problems, occupancy levels,
numbers of live entertainers, etc.
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Use Permit No. 1521 A
Use Permit No. 1684 A
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• numerous letters received by staff from citizens
• proposed changes do not change the net public area
• proposed changes do change the intensification of a portion of the
net public area (from dining to dancing)
It was clarified that existing conditions do not prohibit amplified vocal
entertainment (i.e., from a singer, disc jockey, comic, etc.) nor do they
prohibit amplified recorded music; sound measurements are made at
different times and on different nights throughout the week; and both
of the use permits are old and have few conditions.
Commissioner Selich asked how Condition No. 10 would be
implemented. He was answered that this condition sets a frame work
within which the department determines if a noise violation has
occurred. Techniques are then devised to help mitigate the problem
through sound monitors, improved internal softening devices, dual
glazed glass, etc. Condition 15 is being proposed as part of a program
being developed for a comprehensive alcohol control ordinance.
Commissioner Adams asked about any records of noise and /or
operation complaints in the last year and if they are logged. He was
• answered that there were recorded complaints by residents to the
code enforcement officer and to the police department.
Commissioner Adams asked how the city would enforce the maximum
occupancy to mitigate parking shortfalls?
Staff answered that this is a difficult situation but the objective standard
can be used. A common practice for bar operations is to have a
doorman do an actual patron count coming in the door. This could be
a proposed condition in association with this operation, particularly
when live entertainment and dancing is occurring on site. A cafe
dance permit is similar to a live entertainment permit and requires a
check of the applicant, description of all activities that occur; security
measures and personnel. The cafe dance permit does not run with the
land and can be revoked by the City Manager with certain criteria.
Public Comment was opened.
Mike McDermott, Supervisor of Vice Detail with the Police Department -
established his responsibility to investigate complaints involving ABC
licensed establishments.
Commissioner Adams asked about the incident list received from the
police department and wanted to know the frequency of resident
complaints in the area regarding the Cannery operation.
• Mr. McDermott stated that most of the complaints received go in
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through dispatch and are logged if an officer is dispatched. There is no
distinction as to the caller of the complaint whether they are a resident
or a restaurant patron or employee and sometimes the caller does not
give a name. The complaints are logged as reporting statistics in the
reporting district which encompasses Newport Pier to Coast Highway
up Newport Boulevard. The list of complaints provided are all attributed
to the Cannery Restaurant. This list is a little larger than other operations
within the Cannery Village area. To determine if a place is
overpopulated to where an unsafe condition exists (shoulder to
shoulder, blocked aisles, unable to get to tables or bars which means
fire access and aisles are blocked) the place is shut down and
everybody is counted out one at a time. If they are over capacity, a
citation is issued. The patrons are then counted back in until at
capacity. The Vice and Narcotics detail (6 investigators) go in about
twice a month to check up as well as patrol officers who check more
often.
Mr. Bill Hamilton, President of Western Canners Company, operators of
the Cannery Restaurant spoke in support of his application. He thanked
staff for the report. Continuing, Mr. Hamilton gave a brief history of the
Cannery as a fish cannery for the first 50 years and more recently, a
• restaurant, harbor cruise and entertainment center. He has been
financially involved since 1971. Since that time, many changes have
happened, most notably the application to add live entertainment and
dancing. This is not an unusual request as live entertainment has been
allowed in the area. Zoning, as it exists now, does not preclude this
type of operation. All activities will be inside the restaurant. Studies
have been made by both his sound engineer as well as the city's to
prove that the noise can be contained within city standards. There
have been problems within Cannery Village but there are eight (8)
major late night establishments within the area. The Cannery, if allowed
to proceed, could have a more stable type of clientele, people who
will stay in the restaurant and not wander in the streets, people who will
respond to a better security system. He concluded asking for a chance
to deal with the deteriorating business. If this is granted, then the
license will be taken out by himself as an individual. The license is not
permanent, if he leaves then a new licensee must apply which would
allow the city an opportunity to deal with any problems. At commission
inquiry, he stated that he has read and agrees to the findings and
conditions of approval and would be amenable to further comply with
any studies if necessitated by the city while operating with live
entertainment and dancing. He had no suggestions to mitigate the
noise that happens outside the establishment, but stated that his
outside security people can encourage people to be quiet.
Ms. Terry Heidelberg, general manager of the Cannery Restaurant
. stated that there are three (3) valets on Friday and Saturday and four
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(4) security officers outside that go through the Cannery area and there
are five to six security officers inside the restaurant depending on the
business. Bartenders within the Cannery Village are encouraged to
attend training that is sponsored by the ABC through the police
department. The class is on alcohol awareness of staff in determining if
a patron is intoxicated as well as knowledge of the laws that affect the
business. At commission inquiry she stated that the patrons are
between 30 and 35 years of age after 9 p.m. There are approximately
75 to 90 people that go into the lounge after dinner. The lounge area
capacity is approximately 125.
The following citizens spoke in opposition to this application asking that
this application be denied :
1. Mr. Reginald Thatcher - 611 Lido Park Drive, #4F
2. Pamela Plotkin - 509 31 ss Street
3. Donald Gregory - 601 Lido Park Drive - introduced petition in
opposition signed by 37 residents at both 601 and 611 Lido Park
Drive
4. George Leeper - 419 30th Street
5. Roy Shlemon - 611 Lido Park Drive, #BE
6. Victor Yack - 611 Lido Park Drive, #3D
• 7. Thomas Dixon - 31 st Street - introduced video
The stated reasons of opposition were:
• noise and itinerant merry makers
• lack of and disturbance of residential sleep
• peace and quiet is disturbed
• noise complaints (both from inside and outside the building) have
been made to the Police Department
• loitering in area while patrons sober up before driving home
• daily vandalism and theft to nearby gift shop
• problem of urine and defecation on streets and on sidewalks
• squealing tires from parking lot of the Cannery Restaurant
• live entertainment would increase noise level and trouble
• fender base reverberates (sound that goes through an amplifying
speaker) from music coming from Cannery
• concerns of stabbing that occurred just recently
• other discos in the area have been closed due to rowdiness
• connection between the Malarkey's outside noise and the Cannery
noise
• late night alcohol
• security system hired by the restaurant is not effective
• high rise building with 48 units was first occupied in 1960
• amplifiers are still at the restaurant
• auto alarms
• noise vibrations
• • charter buses with diesel fumes that park illegally
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• foul- mouthed drunks
• change tone of neighborhood; with live entertainment and dance
floor the Cannery will become a nightclub
• property values will be affected
• under 30 set will come to dance 9 p.m. to 2 a.m.
• no elderly people will come to dance
• video introduced that documented several instances during
summer of 1996 while Cannery Restaurant was in violation of the use
permit by having live amplified music and dancing on the premises
Commissioner Adams clarified that if Commission does not act on this
application tonight, Use Permit No. 1684 will expire and as the applicant
was under a permit where a maximum of three (3) live entertainers
could perform with no amplified music and no brass and /or percussion
instruments, they will no longer be able to have live entertainment.
Staff further clarified the following issues are present: whether there is
live entertainment or not; live entertainment with amplified music or
not; or dancing permitted or not. A matrix could be introduced and
expanded by different hours of operation as well. Commission could
give staff direction to modify terms or conditions, or continue item to
• allow a new set of conditions to be drafted. If the Commission does not
approve the request before them, live entertainment will no longer be
permitted.
Commissioner Ashley reiterated that Commission has no ability at this
time to restrict the hours of operation or the live entertainment of the
Cannery Restaurant. What is being proposed today is for the City to be
able to regulate the hours of operation and the type of entertainment
inside the building. The amount and loudness of the excessive noise
that is currently going on are not related to the live entertainment
which has been going on for some time now.
Motion was made by Commissioner Fuller to continue this item to the
Planning Commission meeting of October 23, 1997. He stated that
noise is the issue of most concern as expressed by the volume of letters
received and the testimony of the citizens. Mr. Hamilton needs to be
given an opportunity to address the concerns of the internal and
external noise problems.
Commissioner Adams stated that dancing and amplified music at this
location is not appropriate. The main reason is what seems to be a
fairly flagrant violation of the existing conditions and until things are
more under control, Commission should not be entertaining
intensification of this use. This will change the nature of the operation
and perhaps at some future time, the operation could be given the
. opportunity to try out this new way of doing business, but not until they
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can show that they can do their current business properly. This is a fine
restaurant and he respects the applicant, but until it is shown that the
operation can be run the way it should be, Commission should not give
them a chance to try something different. He concluded stating he
favors incorporating a live entertainment component into UP 1521 that
would be similar in nature to the intent of UP 1684, where it is limited to 2
or 3 entertainers, no amplified music. Also, impose some hour
restrictions and a working program to allow additional protection to the
neighborhood. After these are in place, then give the applicant the
opportunity to change characteristics. Commission needs to try to
improve conditions then maybe in the future, take up a change in the
operational characteristics. This is a mixed use area and the apartment
building was there first.
Commissioner Gifford asked staff about the noise ordinance. If the
noise can be internally contained and a noise problem is generated
from the outside area - how were the measurements made, types or
location of noise, definition of night club and how is it applied in the
Zoning Code. Further, thought needs to be given to this application
with ways to resolve the noise problems (source, responsibility and
mitigation measures). It is evident from the testimony tonight that there
• is plenty of annoyance with noise. She supports a continuance to
enable standards to be drafted to identify problems, mitigation and
responsibility.
Commissioner Selich commented that staff seems to be recommending
a higher degree of supervision over this facility. The dancing and live
entertainment permits are issued outside the Use Permit. If these permits
are allowed and the noise and activity are not controlled, the City
Manager can yank these permits immediately. He concluded
supporting approval of the project with the recommendations by staff
and allowing permits to be issued.
Commissioner Ridgeway stated that Mr. Hamilton has a business that
must not be denigrated. Commission has to strike a balance. The
evidence from the neighborhood is persuasive. There is a social issue.
At this point in time this is the wrong place for dancing. It would be
turning an eatery into a night club. He supports a continuance to hear
about mitigation of off -site problems, noise attenuated in the interior of
the restaurant and effectiveness of the security guards.
Commissioner Ashley expressed his support of continuing this item. He
stated that no one wants the Cannery to go out of business. The
applicant needs to come back and explain why the amplified live
entertainment would not cause problems to neighbors. There is loud
noise happening now that is in violation of the community control noise
. ordinance that has not been stopped.
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Uniform closing hours for establishments in Cannery Village was
discussed by Commission.
Commissioner Kranzley stated that he has been involved with several
meetings with citizens and business people. He stated that there is a
compliance and enforcement issue in the Cannery Village. People are
not allowed to vandalize and relieve themselves. There should be
bicycle police there to patrol the areas during the week as well as on
weekends. The three main issues of the Cannery are noise. Commission
is not granting any increase in noise to the Cannery. A live
entertainment permit does not say to ignore the noise ordinance and
play that music louder then recorded music. Crowding - there is no
increase in the maximum occupancy of the restaurant. No relationship
between dancing and crime /drunkenness. Commission is limiting the
number of hours of operation and use of live or recorded music and
now have a quicker trigger if Mr. Hamilton does not comply with the
noise ordinance and dancing issues. A relationship has to develop
between the residences and the business and part of that is making
sure that if people who visit residences and business come out and
make loud noises act against the law, there will be consequences. He
• does not support a continuance.
Commissioner Adams stated that having live bands and dancing
changes the nature of the establishment as well as the area outside the
establishment.
Chairperson Kranzley stated that there needs to be a discussion on live
entertainment with amplification and the limit of three performers.
Motion by Commissioner Fuller was restated to continue Use Permit No.
1521 to November 6th and extend Use Permit No. 1684 to November 6th
to allow time for the applicant to address the concerns addressed this
evening.
With one objection (Commissioner Kranzley), motion carried.
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SUBJECT: Franklin Realty Animated Copy Sign
(Jeffrey Stem, applicant)
3250 East Coast Highway
• Exception Permit No. 51
Request for an exception to the Sign Code to allow the replacement of
an existing conforming pole sign with a pole sign which contains a
• marquee type sign with mechanically changeable copy (animated
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sign).
Motion was made by Commissioner Ridgeway to continue this item to
October 23rd.
Without objection, the motion carried by acclamation.
SUBJECT: Revised Regulations to allow convenience
markets in conjunction with service stations
(Continued Public Hearing)
An amendment to Chapter 20.80 and Chapter 20.03 of Title 20 of the
Municipal Code to update regulations for service stations and to allow
the co- development of convenience markets and eating and drinking
establishments.
Motion was made by Commissioner Selich to table this item and refer it
to Committee to address complex concerns raised in the staff report.
• Without objection, the motion carried by acclamation.
SUBJECT: Harbor View North
• General Plan Amendment No. 97 -2
• Amendment No. 865
• Development Agreement No. 11
Amendments to the General Plan, a pre -zone amendment, a Planned
Community District development plan, and a development agreement
for the Harbor View North area (formerly Bonita Village) to establish pre -
annexation entitlements in association with the proposed detachment
of this area from the City of Irvine and annexation to the City of
Newport Beach.
Motion was made by Commissioner Ridgeway to continue this item to
October 23rd.
Without objection, the motion carried by acclamation.
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Item No. 3
A No. 863
Item tabled and
referred to Committee
Item No. 4
GPA No. 97 -2
Amendment No. 865
DA No. 11
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SUBJECT: TLA Restaurant (Jonathan Rodriquez- Atkatz,
applicant)
3100 West Coast Highway
• Use Permit No. 3612 and
• Traffic Study No. 112
The project involves a use permit, a traffic study and a negative
declaration, to allow the construction of a 1,500 square foot, two -story
drive - through restaurant facility with a 300 sq. ft. storage building and
related off - street parking. The applications include the following requests:
• waive a portion of the required off - street parking.
• allow an elevator shaft parapet wall and mechanical
equipment screen to exceed the maximum area of 25
square feet permitted by the Municipal Code.
• a modification to the Zoning Code to allow an
architectural feature (steel frame facade element, 32
feet high at its peak) to exceed the permitted 31 foot
maximum peak height limitation.
• • waiver of development standards specified by Section
20.82.040 of the Newport Beach Municipal Code.
Staff presented the report stating that this project involves demolition of
certain buildings on Coast Highway which are currently vacant and
formerly occupied by an automobile sales facility. The proposed project
would occupy 50% of the site. This proposed project is unique in that it
has no walk -up or on -site dining, no alcoholic beverage sales and high
turn -over drive- through service only, resulting in no patron parking
demand. The stacking lanes will be the patron parking, with
consideration given to the capacity and ability to sustain demand for the
facility. Parking will be provided for the employees. A key issue is the
access and on -site circulation. Concern has been raised regarding a
sole access driveway for patron usage for both ingress and egress. Due
to anticipated conflicts of a dual left turn lane serving the site, access into
the property from a left turn on east bound Coast Highway could be
accommodated, but if so, on exiting movement left turn to east bound
Coast Highway would be conflicting and create a safety hazard. Public
Works has therefore strongly recommended that left turn movement be
precluded. This proposed project will conduct order processing through
menus distributed by on -site employees with no speaker boxes. To ensure
new development be designed to maintain the Mariners' Mile Advisory
Committee recommendations, a condition has been included to have
this project reviewed by a design consulting team retained by the City for
the Mariners Mile area.
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Item No. 5
Use Permit No. 3612 A
TS No. 112
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In response to Commission inquiry, Mrs. Wood commented that the city
has no design review authority. The Mariners' Mile Advisory Committee
felt that if the city could provide some advice, keeping in mind the
overall goals of the Mariners' Mile area, that there might be compliance.
Commissioner Ridgeway asked about the twelve (12) foot right of way for
the widening of Coast Highway. What would be the impact of stacking
on this proposed site?
Staff answered that the project has been designed with those setbacks
provided, but the actual dedication is not being required except through
a lease hold commitment.
At Commission inquiry, discussion continued on restrictions, placements of
exits and entrances. The conditions of the project make it clear if at
some point later on that patrons complain about the inability to make a
left turn, Public Works will not change that condition due to the safety
factors. A U -turn can be done at the intersection that services Hoag
Hospital and Balboa Coves. One of the concerns of the Mariners' Mile
Advisory Committee is the number of driveways in the area.
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Commissioner Selich asked for clarificationof the number of parcels. Staff
answered that the proposed project is on a single parcel and the
driveway that is there currently provides access to three parcels.
Ms. Temple stated that in checking assessor records and parcel maps it is
actually two parcels that look like three in terms of the way the buildings
are situated on them. It was determined that the site plan in the packet
depicts just the part of the parcel this project is on.
To get access to the remaining portion of the auto facility's parcel and
the small parcel next door, there will have to be two (2) additional
driveways. Discussions had been held with the realtor who was
marketing these parcels and discussion with potential buyers of the other
two parcels. The other areas are being marketed as separate parcels.
Public Works had been asked and provided a letter to the realtor
indicating that the "other half' of this large parcel would be granted an
additional driveway because that was a major concern of the property
owner. But no access to the third smaller parcel was discussed. If this is
truly a single parcel, then a single driveway with multiple use by three
entities may be desirable, but given the layout of the site as proposed,
may not work. Discussion continued about the possible placement of
one driveway in relation to the proposed project and /or the addition of
multiple driveways on the large parcel.
Public Comment was opened.
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Jonathan Rodriguez - Atkatz, 3100 West Coast Highway - spoke in favor of
this application. He thanked staff for their direction received on this
project for the past few months. It is his objective to have a novel and
unique drive- through facility and he has spent two (2) years in
development. The retail design is akin to public art having aesthetic
value and sensibility that transcends which would be typically
encountered in this area of commerce. The appearance of the building
with the lighting and landscaping will be aesthetically pleasing. Systems
for handling flow and traffic management have been reviewed by hired
top traffic engineers in the country to analyze how this site functions. The
queuing system has been specifically designed to address one of the
basic flaws of fast food. We have the ability to que on site in excess of 32
vehicles. The building has been set back to address the requirements
that might happen in the future and created landscape buffers in
between that point. The operation dovetails the delivery of the product
and service orientation that is expected of this type of approach. There
are no speaker boxes nor menu boards. There are people on site who will
greet patrons face to face. Newport Beach represents the demographic
and density sought to make this business a realty. He concluded asking
Commission to approve this application.
• Commissioner Adams stated that there has been an apparent change in
the operational characteristics. The traffic study indicated that there
would be menu boards and now there are not. Where are the menus
going to be given to the patrons? The queuing now relies on sixty (60)
seconds service time for the initial que.
Referencing the exhibit on the wall, Mr. Rodriguez- Atkatzanswered that it
will happen approximately 100 feet in to the site where the one lane splits
to two. It will take approximately, from decision to order time, two to
three minutes.
Commissioner Adams continued saying that the difference between 60
seconds and 2 and Y2 minutes is huge. If the whole project is based on
the 60 second service time for the initial stop how will that huge
difference be resolved and can you demonstrate that the queuing at the
first service is adequate? The traffic engineer hired was under the
assumption that there was going to be an order board. Now the
operation has passing out a menu, looking at the menu and then
ordering. Those are two completely different things. If this project was
designed based on order boards and the design has not been changed,
I am concerned with the queuing capacity in the first part of the
driveway. When a patron has ordered, how do they know which pick up
lane to go to? He was answered that people on site will direct them to
the appropriate lane.
. Commissioner Adams asked if there was a three dimensional model
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showing the project and site and was answered that there was not one
here tonight at the meeting. He stated that the exhibits on the wall were
very confusing.
Commissioner Fuller asked if this was the first project and was answered
that this is the first one. Commissioner Fuller asked if on the project
rendering it was a surf board and was answered that it is a fabric
sculpture meant to reflect the maritime and nautical aspect.
Discussion continued on the possible placement of a drive through to
Avon Street, demographics, efficiency, stacking concerns, number of
patrons, concern of number of parcels involved and safety.
Commissioner Adams asked staff about the traffic report recommending
left turn access out of the project. Were the U -turns at Superior taken into
account? Staff answered that the study is based on the assumption that
left turns could be done, the conclusions are the same.
Mark Vanderzan, Boora Architects, of Portland Oregon - talked about the
height of the building as a functional efficiency of the layout of the site. It
allows the flow and function to be efficient with direction by professional
• traffic consultants with a 3007o contingency for queuing built into the
projections for the needs based on order times. The building has been
put up thirteen (13) feet high so that any vehicle could travel underneath
it with no conflict of the functional use which necessitated the slightly
higher than normal two (2) story building. The mechanical systems and
elevator parapet are included. The building has been designed to fit into
the Mariners' Mile district. The character is derived from the marine
imagery with canopies for shade to customers. They are elaborate works
of art and depict boat sails. The main objective is to create something
pleasing to the eye with the landscaping. A cost of one million, five
hundred thousand dollars is being spent on this project.
Commissioner Adams expressed concern regarding the issue of two
parcels or one parcel of property. The City may have been misled with
regards to what is being proposed here. A separate parcel is not being
created or sold or designated for this project?
Mr. Vanderzan stated that this issue is with the staff and had been
brought up at the pre - application meetings when the process was
reviewed as to what might be necessary with that situation, whether the
parcels would have to be created or re- delineated. This is a single parcel
now and we are leasing the easterly half of this parcel of land.
Commissioner Fuller stated his understanding is that there are two parcels,
a small parcel and a larger parcel. This is the easterly half of the larger
• parcel that the proposed project would be built on.
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Ms. Temple stated that the Theodore Robins.holdings is a lot that is
approximately 200 feet of frontage on Coast Highway. This project
involves the easterly plus or minus 100 feet of the Theodore Robins
holdings. The remaining 100 feet then beyond to the west of these
holdings is a separate smaller parcel which does not go through to the
dedicated area of Avon Street. All land had been utilized in the past
functionally as a single parcel.
Commissioner Ridgeway stated that the westerly parcel, if not a separate
parcel but part of this 200 feet of frontage, how will it be accessed in the
future?
Mr. Edmonston reiterated that at the meeting with the Public Works
Director and the realtor representing the Theodore Robins people, it was
understood that there were two parcels. As a result of that, Public Works
sent a letter to the realtor indicating that there would be, based on the
discussion that day, a second driveway allowed on what was thought to
be the westerly parcel. Now, it appears to be the westerly half of the one
big parcel.
• Mr. Rodriguez-Atkatz presented a copy of this letter (with map) that the
realtor had given him prior to their signing the lease. The letter states that
two driveways would be permitted for the property.
Commissioner Ridgeway stated the Commission concern of accessing
the future parcel. It appears, in looking at the map, that the city
engineer has been somewhat misled. This map shows a new twenty -four
(24) foot driveway location to be determined. The problem is not the
project but this additional driveway which the Commission is trying to
prevent. The Commission is concerned with access to the other 100
linear feet on this parcel. Commission needs to resolve this before a
determination can be made on the proposed project.
Commissioner Adams stated that city staff has told the applicant that the
city is okay with two driveways on this parcel back in July.
Mr. Edmonston stated that is correct and it was subsequent to that time,
after the letterwas sent, he became aware of the Mariners' Mile Advisory
Committee and their guidelinesto try to reduce the number of driveways.
Discussion ensued with design contingencies of the project on site with a
center driveway in the larger parcel. Taken into consideration during the
discussion was time and money spent, ingress and egress.
At Commission inquiry, Mr. Rodriguez - Atkatz stated he has read and
• agrees to the findings and conditions of Use Permit No. 3612. He stated
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that he had read the recommendations
Committee.
Public Comment closed.
the Mariners' Mile Advisory
Commissioner Ashley stated that he and Commissioner Fuller were
members of the business and citizens planning advisory committee for
the Mariners' Mile group. The committee recommended and the city
council accepted the following:
• reduce number of curb cuts for driveways along Mariners' Mile
• consolidate parcels
• off -site parking
For the applicant to come in now, with the request that Commission deal
with only the easterly half of a unified parcel and not know what would
be developed on the westerly half would be contrary to what the
Mariners' Mile Citizen's Advisory Committee was trying to achieve. Maybe
this is a good use, but until such time as to what would happen on the
west side, Commission would not know if this was a good or bad use. The
group wanted to restrict left turning movements on Coast Highway
. except at locations where there were signals. This is a very stressful
location for this type of use due to the left turning that would be required
going over the median strip to enter the facility. Staff has proposed that
there be only a right turn out so there would not be a left turn movement
going into the opposite direction. The committee was also hoping to
promote some form of design without expressing any particular
architectural idiom that would be somewhat emblematic of a nautical
community. We were hoping to avoid a catch 22 character as there is
presently. This design does not appear to be of that intent due to the
fact the project represents more curb cuts and left turning movements
across a very busy highway at a very stressful location and does not
provide any solution for release to Avon Street. The proposed use is very
good and should be in Newport Beach, as this is a very innovative idea,
but this is the wrong location for that use. This just doesn't seem to fit at all
with what the committee has recommended to City Council.
Mrs. Wood stated that a consultant has recently been retained by the
City to address design issues and the contract is to prepare the
development framework to establish guidelines for architecture, signage,
and public spaces along Mariners' Mile. There is an option in the contract
that the city can give them proposed plans for development on private
property to review and make comment on. That is what staff is trying to
do with one of the proposed conditions. The timing did not allow staff to
give this to them earlier, additionally, these consultants have not been
retained to provide any advice with regards to land use, purely design.
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Discussion ensued on the location of the project on the parcel, unified
circulation, serious access issues, extension of Avon Street to the property
line, cul -de -sac, basic recommendations of Mariners' Mile Advisory
Committee, letter written indicating a second driveway could be
allowed, design criteria, time constraints, lease, height modification,
accommodation of other uses, perpetuating the problems on the
highway, concept of a drive through at that location on Coast Highway,
minor walk -up service, curb cuts and vested rights. Following the
discussion of possible Avon Street extensions and resulting problems, a
straw vote of the Commission for support of a premise of a drive - through
of this type at this location concluded with 4 Ayes and 3 Noes.
Assistant City Attorney Robin Clauson stated that a continuance would
allow concern about drive approach, letter from city engineer and the
Mariners' Mile Advisory Committee to be addressed. Just because that
letter went out does not mean that the Commission has to approve this
project when there are other reasons for denying it. If a continuance is in
order it is more specifically in order for an evaluation of the effect of the
drive approach.
Motion was made by Commissioner Gifford to continue this item to
• November 61h to allow applicant time to explore possible answers of
concerns raised. All Ayes.
Public Comment was re- opened.
Mr. Rodriguez- Atkatz, applicant stated he would not be here today if at
the outset of this process he knew he could not gain access to this
property or in fact if he knew this use was not appropriate for this
location. He concluded stating he does not want a continuance of the
application.
Chairperson Kranzley stated that the Commission will consider a drive -
through on that property, which leaves other questions. The other
questions need to be answered. You can say you are not in favor of a
continuance and we will respect that. The only time that there is a ruling
on whether this is appropriate is at the Planning Commission meeting and
their decision can be appealed to the City Council. There has been no
indication from the city if this is an appropriate use for that lot.
Public Comment was closed.
Motion was made by Commissioner Ridgeway to deny the application
based on the driveway location.
Substitute Motion was made by Commissioner Adams to deny on the
• basis that drive - through at this location is an inappropriate land use. 5
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Motion was made to reconsiderthe Substitute Motion, All Ayes
Motion was made by Commissioner Adams to deny Use Permit No. 3612
based on the revised finding in Exhibit B. - 5 Ayes, 2 Noes.
FINDING:
The approval of Use Permit No. 3612 will, under the circumstances of the
case be detrimental to the health, safety, peace, morals, comfort and
general welfare of persons residing or working in the neighborhood or be
detrimental or injurious to property or improvements in the neighborhood
or the general welfare of the City for the following reasons:
• that drive through land use is inappropriate at this site
SUBJECT: Activities Incorporated (Kathy Miller, applicant)
Item No.6
501 30th Street
Use Permit No. 3614
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• Use Permit No. 3614
Request to establish a private banquet /conference facility in a space
Removed from
formerly occupied by a full service restaurant. The operation will function
calendar
as a banquet facility, evenings and weekends, for events such as private
parties and weddings with activitieswhich include:
• on -site sale and /or consumption of alcoholic beverages;
• a request to waive a portion of the required parking;
• the use of live entertainment and dancing.
Staff has determined that the application as submitted is incomplete
since information including but not limited to the hours of operation and
specific operational characteristics have not been adequately
presented. Therefore, staff has recommended that this matter be
removed from calendar. Once the additional information is submitted,
the matter will be rescheduled for public hearing and re- noticing of the
public hearing will be issued.
SUBJECT: Hard Rock Cafe (Ryan MacAfee, applicant)
Item No. 7
451 Newport Center Drive
Use Permit No. 3615
• Use Permit No. 3615
Request a change in the operational characteristics of an existing full
Continued to
service restaurant to allow:
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• the facility to provide live entertainment
• the cessation of regular meal service prior to the closing of the
restaurant and operation of the facility as a bar /nightclub
with alcoholic beverage service as the principal purpose from
that time until closing
At staff request, this item was continued to November 6th, All Ayes
SUBJECT: General Plan Amendment 97 -3
Request to initiate an amendment to the Newport Beach General Plan
and Local Coastal Program, Land Use Plan, as follows:
A.
3300 -3336 Via Lido
B.
Office Site "B " /Koll Center Newport
C.
Newport Village /Newport Center
D.
Four Seasons Hotel /Newport Center
E.
The Pacific Club /Koll Center Newport
• F.
Newport Dunes
Motion was made by Commissioner Ridgeway to recommended for
initiation General Plan Amendment 97 -3, All Ayes
YYY
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS:
a.) City Council Follow -up - Oral report by the Assistant City Manager
regarding City Council actions related to planning - Mrs. Wood
reported that at the September 22nd meeting, the Ordinance
Amendment for Mixed Use /Business Hours was called up and will
be considered at the meeting of October 27th; and Council
directed staff to proceed with written agreements with the
County on the property tax exchange, the County Fire Authority
and pre- annexation agreements with the Irvine Company. The
City Manager has spoken with Mr. Jones who has agreed to fund
a lighting designer consultant to give advice on how to resolve
the problem of the lighting on their new complex in response to
the many letters received by the City.
b.) Oral report by the Planning Director regarding the approval of
Outdoor Dining Permits, Planning Director's Use Permits,
Modification Permits and Temporary Use Permits - Accessory
• Outdoor Dining Permit was issued for 102 McFadden Place;
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GPA No. 97 -3
Recommended for
initiation
Additional
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Planning Directors Use Permit were issued for 2901 .West Coast
Highway, Suite No. 110, 2618 San Miguel Drive; Modifications were
approved for 3531 Newport Boulevard,700 Newport Center Drive,
206 36th Street, 305 Kings Place, 1 Thunderbird Drive, 7 Thunderbird
Drive, 8 Thunderbird Drive, 90 Old Course Drive, 3903 Marcus
Avenue and 6 Oakmont Lane; Modification was disapproved for
6800 West Ocean Front
C.) Oral report from Planning Commission's representative to the
Economic Development Committee- none
d.) Matters which a Planning Commissioner would like staff to report
on at a subsequent meeting - noticing procedures; procedure of
logging complaints; and discussion ensued about the quality of
designs submitted by applicant.
e.) Matters which a Planning Commissioner may wish to place on a
future agenda for action and staff report- none
f.) Requests for excused absences - Commissioner Gifford excused
from October 23rd meeting.
ADJOURNMENT: 11:45 p.m.
THOMAS ASHLEY, SECRETARY
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
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