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CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
Planning Commission Minutes
November 2, 2006
Regular Meeting - 6:30 p.m.
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INDEX
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Eaton, Hawkins, Cole, Toerge, Peotter, McDaniel and Henn
STAFF PRESENT:
Patricia Temple, Planning Director
aron Harp, Assistant City Attorney
ony Brine, Principal Civil Engineer
Jim Campbell, Senior Planner
Rosalinh Ung, Associate Planner
Jaime Murillo, Associate Planner
Brandon Nichols, Assistant Planner
Marina Marrelli, Assistant Planner
Gaylene Olson, Department Assistant
PUBLIC COMMENTS: Ms. Temple spoke on the Award of Merit the City's local
PUBLIC
coastal program, Coastal Land Use Plan, received. It is State wide award from the
COMMENTS
Califomia chapter of the American Planning Association and it was for the small
urisdiction comprehensive planning. We were one of two agencies to receive this
ward. It is the first time the City has been invited to submit a project for a State
vide award.
POSTING OF THE AGENDA:
POSTING OF
THE AGENDA
The Planning Commission Agenda was posted on October 27, 2006.
CONSENT CALENDAR
ITEM NO. 1
SUBJECT: MINUTES of the regular meeting of October 19, 2006.
Approved
Commissioner Toerge made corrections.
Ayes:
Eaton, Peotter, Hawkins, Cole, McDaniel, and Toerge
Noes:
None
Abstain:
Henn
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ITEM NO.2
SUBJECT: Newport Bay Marina (PA2001 -210)
2300 Newport Boulevard
Continued to
November 16,
Site Plan Review, Use Permit, Modification Permit and Vesting Tentative Traci
2006
Map to allow the construction of a mixed -use development on a 2.4 acre site
located north of the intersection of Newport Boulevard and Balboa Boulevard. The
project consists of the demolition of all structures on site and the construction of
approximately 36,000 square feet of commercial uses and 27 dwelling units
(condominiums). Eleven three -story buildings are planned to be built over a
subterranean parking garage. The reconstruction /reconfiguration of the existing
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bulkhead, boatways and docks is also planned. The Site Plan Review application
would authorize the entire project and the Vesting Tentative Tract map would
permit a subdivision map to allow for the residential units to be individually sold.
The Use Permit would establish a building height limit of up to 35 feet and the
Modification Permit would allow portions of the proposed buildings to encroach
within the 5 -foot front yard setback. Finally, consideration of a Draft Environmental
Impact Report (SCH# 2003071144) including mitigation measures.
Staff requests to continue this item to November 16, 2006.
Motion was made by Commissioner Peotter to approve the consent calendar as
modified.
Ayes:
Eaton, Peotter, Hawkins, Cole, McDaniel, and Toerge
Noes:
None
Abstain:
Henn
HEARING ITEMS
ITEM NO. 3
SUBJECT: Holiday Inn Express (PA2006 -182)
2300 West Coast Highway
Approved
The applicant requests the approval of a 19 room expansion of a 64 room existing
motel. The two -story addition is fully compliant with applicable standards and will
be located at the rear of the existing two -story motel building.
Commissioner Henn stated he had not had time to adequately study the record
from the last meeting and therefore would be abstaining from discussion an
voting on this item.
Marina Marrelli, Assistant Planner, gave an overview on the updated staff repo
noting the following:
• The addition to the last staff report is a more thorough examination of ho
this project could comply with the Design Framework.
• Additional language regarding the cut between the subject property and the
parking lot.
• A proposal for additional screening of the roof equipment.
Ms. Temple expanded on the item relating to the condition regarding the
easements and the possible future connection through the parking lot. Staff had
proposed the following language they felt was consistent with the Planning
Commission's direction from the last meeting:
. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, the property owner shall execute
and record an irrevocable offer of dedication, approved by the Office of the
City Attorney, granting the City an easement for ingress, egress and
access, over, upon and across the portion of the propert6y as general)
depicted in Site Plan Exhibit 1 dated November 2, 2006 and attached
herein. Upon refinement of the attached Site Plan Exhibit 1 any parking
required to be removed shall be allowed to be replaced by the removal o
on -site landscaping.
Staff still had questions, as a result, the City Attorney's office has prepared some
stricter language for the Planning Commission's consideration:
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. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, the property owner shall exei
and record an irrevocable offer of dedication, approved by the Office of
City Attorney, granting the City an easement for ingress, egress and aco
over, upon and across the portion of the property described in Exhibit A
depicted on Exhibit B. (Exhibits to be provided separately)
Temple said that it was the choice of the Planning Commission, Staff
ifortable with either of them. A copy of the above language was handed out
meeting.
ice White, from Government Solutions and on behalf of the applicant, gave
rerPoint presentation noting some revisions and modifications to the plat
A on the comments and suggestions from the last meeting on the followir
(5) key points:
Landscaping - UP No. 2006 -019 Conditions:
o Condition 24 -
Prior to obtaining final occupancy, there shall be a total of
palm trees within the planting area adjacent to the sidewalk
West Coast Highway....
o Condition 25-
■ Prior to obtaining final occupancy, there shall be a conl
30 -inch tall hedge adjacent to the sidewalk on West
Highway
o Condition 27-
■ Prior to obtaining final occupancy, the two utility fixtures
abut West Coast Highway shall be screened from view
landscaping.
o Prior approval - UP 2001 -044 had two conditions that covered
three of these items.
■ Condition 6-
• Prior to the issuance of a certificate of occupancy ... o
additional Mexican Fan palm shall be planted...
• Prior to the issuance of a certificate of occupancy,
continuous hedge.... shall be installed along the along t
front of the property....
Condition 8-
■ Prior to the issuance of a final certificate of occupancy
screening plants shall be installed... to achieve ful
screening of the electrical cabinet...
o Ms. White said they felt by upholding conditions 6 and 8 this woulc
allow for portions of landscaping improvements. along West .Coas
Highway frontage to be completed sooner. If we upheld conditions
24, 25 and 27 there would be a delay.
5 -sided architecture - roof plan and screening
o Roof Conditions - requested the following changes-
* 35. - The roof shall be painted a neutral, non - reflective color .
approved by the Planning _.Director prior
to the issuance of a certificate of #PR4_a certificate of occupancy.
■ 36. - A sereen wall shall be installed ..m...0.h of the a :stmF..
fugal eeerspawW. AIL exisfina HVAC_equipment on the roof shall
be screened with a louvered horizontal screen and louvered
vertical screen north, of the ... equipment and not exceed the
height limit.
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parapet. All rooftop equipment shall be painted to match
roof prior to the issuance of a certificate of #Pe4 occupancy.
• Parking -
o Ms. White went over the occupancy rates from the last meeting.
• Project meets City code.
• Typical Guest-
Weekday
■ Business /corporate stay 2.5 nights
. Arrive via rental car or airport shuttle (no car)
Weekend
■ Leisure travelers (primarily couples) stay 2 nights
■ Arrive in 1 car
■ In the evening, when typically everyone is in their rooms,
is one staff person on duty.
Consistency_-with .Mariner's Mile ._ Specific Plan and Visioi
Design Framework - signage
o Language from Strategic Vision and Design Framework -
■ Single- business monument signs-
■ 4.21: Signs should be limited to those iden
businesses
■ 4.6: Ground - mounted single- tenant monument signs s
be allowed.
o They went out and measured the existing sign and compared
measurements to Newport Zoning code 20.67.030 - Pemanent Sic
Commercial and Industrial Districts
• Site frontage minimum 50 feet; they have 132 feet.
• Number of signs permitted - one; they have one.
• Area of sign not to exceed 200 square feet; their sign is
square feet.
• Height not to exceed 25 feet; their sign is 7 feet.
Cole if the existing sign was permitted.
White answered no, and there is a condition that a permit be applied for
Staff feels that the sign does comply. Ms. White continued with
They feel the project complies with requirements of the Specific Plan.
• Architecture-
Existing rooftop equipment will be screened and entire
painted.
• Landscape-
■ Complies with requirements and standards.
o Lighting-
■ Zero light spill from site.
• Offer of dedication for easement -
o Rough calculation shows that three spaces will be lost if the
occurs.
o These spaces can be made up with the loss of landscaping.
• It would represent about a 485 square foot loss of landscap
and still park the property to code.
• This would not absolve them needing to meet the number
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trees, etc. required.
)ner Eaton asked if the applicant was acceptable with both of the
proposals on the offer of dedication by Staff and the City Attorr
White answered that the first one was the applicant's language and
:rence between the two proposals is they have one last sentence, which I
er, that is an acknowledgement that parking will be replaced by the loss of
landscaping. So, they would prefer the first one.
nmissioner Eaton then asked Assistant City Attorney Aaron Harp if the ad
luage was acceptable to the City.
Harp said they would prefer to go with the language recommended by the
may's office, with maybe the acknowledgement that the parking would
aced with landscaping.
Harp then asked Ms. White how wide the proposed easement would be.
White said they weren't sure what the Public Works Department
re, but what will fit, given the drive aisle, is 26 feet.
a. Temple added that there hadn't been a final determination by the Pu
arks Department, but in preliminary discussions the Public Works Director
s indicated 32 feet would be required in order to provide a regular private sh
andard. That is not a final determination. Also on the added langu,
Guested by the applicant on the easement language, that technically
mplying with the landscaping standard would require the Planning Commis:
consider an approval of variance and we have not noticed a variance.
Harp then said the important issue is this is an irrevocable offer of dedicai
unless there is more analysis done in the future, nothing is going to hapr
it and they will be in conformance until the City Council decides to accept
of dedication. At that time it would put the applicant into a non - conform
ation. Perhaps dealing with the landscaping issue could be put off to a IE
asioner McDaniel spoke on a letter, in the staff report, that had I
J from a Mrs. Bauer MD which indicates she is against this project
some clarification on the following:
. Big rigs parking in the motel's parking lot.
White responded that big rigs are not permitted in the lot. They are
fed by the motel.
irman Cole asked if there was a condition prohibiting big rigs from parking
lot.
White answered no condition. This motel does not get trucker business.
:r Hawkins asked what the time frame would be on the
improvements and the parking lot landscaping.
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s. White said they are proposing to do the conditions, regarding the landscapi
e frontage of West Coast Highway, that are tied to the existing approval that is
an check. Visibly this would be the most important component in terms of t
�eet frontage. So when that starts they would not get the certificate
:cupancy until the new tree, the hedge and the screening of the utility equipme
as completed. As far as the parking lot and due to the amount of constructi
id moving of equipment, they couldn't find a way to get that landscaping done.
condition was proposed where they could come up with a portion of the parki
i trees being placed in the forward portion, that is something the applicant cot
Hawkins said he thought the improvements to the front portion which is tied tc
certificate for current approval in plan check was fine. His concern was witt
erring the parking lot landscaping improvements until after the current proposal
would like to see a condition requiring some trees.
Temple added that the conditions in the 2002 Use Permit are the conditio
need to be complied with. She has some concerns on how you could absol
pliance with those conditions to a later date. If this approval is granted
>n't mean it will be implemented.
mmissioner Hawkins questioned if the Staffs position is that the landsc
)rovements, pursuant to the 2002 approval, would be installed and if there
1 problems they would be taken care with the plan check review and apr
the current application.
. Temple answered yes.
Hawkins asked if the applicant was okay with this.
White answered yes.
sioner Peotter asked about the purpose of the hedge and why it
in 2002.
Temple said the hedge was a requirement of the Strategic Vision and De
nework, adopted in 2000. The hedge and the trees in the front were the
that were adopted as code in the Mariner's Mile Specific Plan.
sioner Peotter said this would cause their monument sign to be
it will be behind the hedge.
im Campbell, Senior Planner, commented on this issue stating the ]an(
amework was adopted in 2000 and it had specific landscape standards
Pere codified. The following meet those standards:
• The hedge and palm row across the front of the property provides a
element of continuity across the entire district.
• The landscaping in the parking lot which was required and codified.
Campbell did say the hedge would necessitate a larger sign for visibil
oses and would cut done on the open space, but it is a mandatory item
Hawkins asked:
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If the applicant was happy with the proposed language of the offer
dedication that they had proposed and that this was their offer.
If they had proposed, at one time, some connection with the municipal
but currently it is not in their current proposal.
White answered yes to the first question. She said the second question wa:
:ct, but it was as if they proposed a good deed and now are being punished.
/ are happy with the language and would like to have an acknowledgemer
if the parking is to be replaced on -site that it will be at the loss of landscaping.
. Harp stated the real issue is if the irrevocable offer of dedication is require(
J it is approved, then the applicant would be in a non - conforming use. The)
uld basically have less parking than the code currently requires. If things di(
we forward, he felt some type of arrangement could be made with the municipa
for adequate parking.
Hawkins asked if, with the City's Attorney's approval, that one of the items
condition would have language that the applicant would not be prejudiced
offer.
Harp said yes they would take care of that.
missioner McDaniel said he wouldn't need this requirement to move
an approval. His concern would be the parking now and in the future.
imissioner Toerge asked Ms. White about the three conditions for ct
ned in her presentation and these conditions were not in the staff report.
White said they are in the last page of the resolution.
Marrelli said she had emailed the revised resolution on Tuesday, October 31
comment was opened.
comment was closed.
n Cole asked if the three proposed suggested changes were the
to the conditions that they now have in their packets.
White answered yes.
mer Hawkins clarified they were speaking of the emailed version of
changes.
nmissioner Toerge asked if the cut sheet in the plans that were presented
slides tonight are going to part of the record and wanted to make sure this w
of the condition.
Temple said all materials presented at this meeting are part of the pu !
rd and copies of the presentation are also received from the applicant. I
ple suggested making the changes presented tonight as part of the motion.
nan Cole clarified that the slide depicting condition number 36 also ref!
ly, the graphic they are talking about. He wanted clarification that there
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existing well that the equipment was being moved to.
White said yes, it is hard to see in the graphic.
irman Cole said the landscaping issues have been addressed adequat
Iht, the roof plan presented will be part of the record, and the parking t
i shown to be in compliance. He asked the Staff if the signage was
pliance with the Mariner's Mile Strategic Plan, even if it wasn't permanent
Marrelli answered yes.
ere was some general discussion on the sign and it's increased size with
dge blocking it. It was also discussed if there could be a condition made ton
keep the sign from being 200 square feet and 25 feet tall.
Temple said if it is consistent with the code they will get a permit. If it's in
it shouldn't be conditioned with a use permit. The specifics in the Marin
Design Framework have been taken out and are now the City's code
irman Cole continued with the offer of dedication and the language appears
been accepted, with the City Attorney agreeing to add the language from t
icant.
mmissioner Peotter wanted clarification that we did not currently have a
anything codified requiring this.
Temple answered that was correct.
Peotter then asked that there was no nexus requiring this.
r. Harp said it could be argued that there is a nexus requiring it. They are
Iditional units to this motel, which will increase traffic and put a burden on
qhwav which could be a nexus.
sioner Peotter continued that they are just building out their site, not
their site, which should not require additional circulation.
Temple said they are exercising one provision of the code to allow them tc
greater than the base floor area ratio limit of .5 up to their proposal of .7
h is in the use permit request to allow a higher amount of square feet.
. Harp pointed out the nexus analysis is irrelevant because they are volunt;
reeing to this offer of dedication. It is in their interest also to have access in
imissioner Peotter said that it didn't matter and condition number 19, as
fine with him.
issioner Hawkins does not support condition number 19 and thinks
be something stronger and something fixed.
issioner Eaton just wanted to reiterate what he stated last week, in tl
lanning for the circulation on Coast Highway, and this area in particular.
ng access through the back is critical.
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irman Cole agreed that we should keep the language that the City
proposed with the amendment.
r. Harp said he may need to change some of the language if the Commis:
rection is to obtain the easement, but to insure that the applicant is not prej
f granting the easement. Instead of an irrevocable offer of dedication, he
ive them execute an easement and not have us record it subject to a vari
ter on. This would all be based upon the City Council approval.
general discussion there was a consensus to record an irrevocable offer
ation as long as the applicant is not prejudiced.
�n was made by Commissioner McDaniel to approve Development Plan
001 (PA2006 -182) with all of the changes and directions that we have I:
this evening.
and Commission clarified the motion as follows:
• The suggested roof condition changes on numbers 35,36, and 37.
• Include the exhibits from tonight's presentation by the applicant.
• Delete condition number 19 and replaced with the City Attorney's propos
language on the offer of dedication, received by email, and modified not
prejudice the applicant.
None
Henn
ITEM NO.4
Planning Director's Use Permit No. 2006 -021 (PA2006 -193)
Denied
:al of the Planning Director's approval of a Use Permit for a medical/di
a use. The request is to allow the utilization of an approximately 2,625 sq
office area for medical /dental office use within an existing 10,500 square
building complex.
linh Ung, Associate Planner, gave an overview on the staff report noting
• To allow the operation of a medical office use within an existing of
building complex.
• The subject property is zoned as Professional and Administrative Of
District of the Santa Ana Heights Specific Plan.
• The subject property has an existing legal non - conforming dental of
approved by the County of Orange prior to the City's annexation in 2001.
• An appeal was filed by the Santa Ana Heights Project Advisory Commil
with issues focus on whether medical /dental uses are allowed in the
District and the on -site parking requirement for the medical /dental uses.
• The Director's interpretation is that medical or dental office uses
permitted in the PA Zone.
• Medical /dental office uses are traditionally considered as professic
business office uses, however there are different parking requirements
medical /dental uses since the parking demand for the medical use is slig
higher than the general office use.
• The proposed project requires a net increase of 3 additional parking spa
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and the applicant is providing the required number of parking spaces by re-
stripping the parking lot.
• The project meets the criteria set forth in the Non - Conforming Parkinc
Section of the Code.
• Staff recommends denial of the appeal and to uphold and affirm the decisior
of the Planning Director and approve the Use Permit application. However,
during the review of the application the Planning Commission could deny the
application if findings could not be made for the Use Permit application.
comments opened.
Carol, resident of Santa Ana Heights and vice -chair of the Project
nittee, and they are objecting to the Use Permit application with the
• More trips generated.
• Increased traffic problem for the residential area.
n Cole asked Mr. Carol if he had any estimate on the increased trips.
Carol said it was based on the number of chairs and type of dental
procedures and didn't have a number.
Stokes, PAC member of Santa Ana Heights, had concerns with the
rds coming from medical /dental offices.
Saunders, project architect, introduced himself and Dr. David Wilhel
ant. Dr. Wilhelm answered the question regarding the number
ntments as follows:
• Presently has an office in Huntington Beach.
• Runs a fee - for - service private practice.
• Averages 6 patients per day
• Procedures vary; full mouth reconstruction and cosmetic cases.
• 2 hygienists that see an average of 5.5 patients per day. The hygienists
scheduled for 8 hours a day but because of the age of the patients,
appointments tend to be longer.
• Number of chairs - 2 for the hygienist and 3 that Dr. Wilhelm works out of.
Wilhelm felt the amount of traffic generated from his practice would
rman Cole asked about the number of patients seen in an 8 hours day
that 5 patients per hygienists.
Wilhelm answered approximately 5.5 patients per hygienists and that is b;
his patients being older and being treated for periodontal disease and care.
iirman Cole asked so that would make 10 to 12 hygienists patients per
the patients seen by Dr. Wilhelm, which is on a average of 6 or less pati
day, making an average total per day of 15 to 17.
Wilhelm said that was correct.
Cole then asked there would be 2 hygienists, 1 receptionist plus Dr
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also on the premises.
Wilhelm answered yes.
missioner McDaniel asked if there would be any other doctors in the practice.
Wilhelm answered there would be no other doctors.
mmissioner McDaniel asked the Staff, since we annexed this area from
nty, if this was a new application and not from the County, and we acoe
because it was already established.
Ung answered that was correct.
comment closed.
Hawkins expressed his following concerns:
Medical /Dental Uses in the PA Zone -
o The Staff believes medical /dental uses are permitted uses in the
Zone under Professional and Administrative Offices- according
section 20.44.055 of the Zoning Code. He understood the bo
interpretation from Staff.
• Referring to the Zoning Code, Business Park District, Seca
20.44.050 B.1 - specifically refers to medical and dental offices :
that is the district under which these uses are allowed.
• PA Zone - Prohibited uses are all uses not listed in this section
permitted.
• One section discusses medical /dental as a permitted use and it is
delineated in the current zoning district, Section 20.44.055, theref
doesn't think the use is permitted.
On -site Parking Requirement-
• The Staff recognizes that parking could become a concern, but dil
recommend denial of the use permit do to the fact that there would
45 total parking spaces and the site accommodates a sufficient van
of uses such that there would not be a likely overlap in park
demand.
• He didn't think there is a variety of uses; 50 percent is professic
office and 50 percent is dental. There is a commonality and comn
demand.
• The permitted use in this area is 100 percent
professional /administrative offices.
o' There will be some parking problems.
Peotter asked the Staff:
• What is the parking requirement for medical; 1 per 150 or 1 per 200
• Are the 8.5 stalls for long -term staff stalls or general purpose stalls.
• The existing medical was approved at 1 per 250, so it is non - conforming i
as it stands and do we have the latitude to require them to fix this before
extend a new use.
• If this is a discretionary approval, why can't we require them to bring
existing non - conforming use into conformance before granting a new use.
Ung answered the parking requirement is 1 per 200 and is City wide.
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answered yes that it is a existing non - conforming use as it stands today
rding to the non - conforming section of the parking requirement we do
the latitude to require them to fix it. This is a discretionary approval.
r. Brine answered that the 8.5 is the standard size parking stall.
r. Harp answered the questioned on bringing the existing non - conforming
to conformance stating the code section provides how much parking is regi
r the applicant to provide and there is no discretion in that regard, however
e seeking a use permit which is discretionary.
Dmmissioner Henn asked if the existing non - conforming parking situation is
different owner and if so, how can we apply a restriction to that in conjun
th this application.
Temple said that these buildings have had four separate condominit
erships. It is difficult to impose conditions on other owners that are not part
application.
Henn asked if they share parking in common.
Temple answered yes.
mmissioner Henn then asked do we have a mechanism to impose restrictic
parking that is available to the other condominium owners.
Harp said no we cannot impose parking restrictions on the other owners sip
y are not part of this application.
mmissioner Henn then asked if the parking requirement consideration
:lusively on this application.
. Temple answered yes.
mmissioner Henn asked:
• What is the traffic generation associated with general office compared
medical office.
• That comparison would set the traffic differential to be considered.
Brine answered:
• General office daily trip rate is 14 trips per 1000 square foot
• Medical office daily trip rate is 50 trips per 1000 square foot.
issioner Henn then asked if that traffic model indicates that the med
trip rate is significantly higher.
Temple responded that the trips rate used for modeling and other tr
Isis purposes are based on averages that are tested in the field via drive F
ts. That number takes into account all the broad range of medical offi
i are varied in type and generate traffic at different rates, i.e. the pediatri
may have an enormous amount of visitation is evaluated the same as
ologist who may have less visitation than a regular doctor.
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mmissioner Peotter asked what has the applicant shown that he has the
hts to the additional parking spaces he is proposing.
Ung asked for time to check the file for recorded or reciprocal
in Cole asked if the Traffic Engineer had an answer to this and
out the following:
• The City parking code for general office versa medical office has
difference of 4 per 1000 or 1 for 250 versa 5 per 1000 or 1 for 200, which
a 25 percent increase.
• The trips generated by a medical office are almost 4 times that of a gene
office.
my Brine said that is accurate, there is more turn over with the higher level
ps generated.
Ung said there is no copy of a reciprocal access agreement, however as par
the County building permit, each of the buildings were built with the
lerstanding that they have to provide a fair share of parking and that is spli
sally per each building. Each building has two separate condominiun
Peotter asked if:
• That means we are going from 41 spaces to 45.
• Does each of the condo units get one of the extra 4 spaces being created.
• Dr. Wilhelm will not be getting 3.
Ung was not aware of the arrangement and perhaps we should question
cant.
missioner Peotter then asked if the City should be concerned if the appli
legally provide the spaces and ownership of those spaces as part of
Ung answered yes.
Cole wanted clarification on the following:
. The Staff believes, per the code, that the applicant can re- stripe the exi:
parking lot, increasing the over all parking spaces from 41 to 45 and
would allow them to meet the code requirement for this use, which regi
an additional 3 spaces.
Ung answered that is correct.
missioner Hawkins said that he thought the actual code requirement as i
now is 42 and they are encroaching with the trash enclosure on one space.
applicant is proposing to add another 3 spaces.
Ung said that was correct.
Harp added that the important issue is it this is a shared parking
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does the applicant have the legal right to re -stripe the lot to provide
ional 3 spaces. He then asked the applicant to respond to this.
Wilhelm said there is a condo association, which he is part of, and they ha
a meeting regarding re- striping and restructuring the parking lot
ommodate the necessary parking spaces to meet code and everyone was
:ement. Regarding the traffic, his normal office hours are Tuesday throu
rsday, 7am to 4pm and half -a -day on Friday, which is approximately three a
-half days a week.
i Cole asked the Staff if the re- striping issue needs to be
of the condominium situation.
Harp didn't think it needed to be conditioned but just wanted to verify they
right to comply with this.
imissioner Peotter said he thought it should be conditioned that the app
to verify they have the association's approval on their ownership of the 3
Harp said it wasn't an ownership but a right to use the overall spaces.
imissioner Peotter said he had been involved in condo associations recent
ownership of parking is an important issue. Usually modem methods actue
gn the number of spaces per unit. Their CC &R's may have some flexibility
an them.
said these are valid points and since we do not know how they
maybe we should condition it.
irman Cole asked Staff if it should be conditioned before issuing a permit
be conditioned as part of the use permit.
Temple said some written verification of the right to change the parking lot
of it would be appropriate which would need an added condition.
ssioner Hawkins said Commissioner Peotter raised a good point
the following:
• He was not concerned with Dr. Wilhelm, his patients or his staff encroachir
on other's parking.
• That we are requiring Dr. Wilhelm to create 3 additional parking spaces ar
there is no guarantee that parking spaces won't be used by others.
• Doesn't believe this is a permitted use.
• Doesn't believe the parking issue is adequately addressed and there is not
diversity of uses as the Staff indicates.
rman Cole addressed the following in the staff report regarding the code
irement:
Assuming the applicant can re- stripe the additional 3 spaces for a total of
spaces, this would meet the current parking requirement that the C
requires.
Temple answered yes.
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hairman Cole then asked what is the discretionary reason why we wouldn't allo
hat and if Commissioner Hawkins was concerned that the spaces wouldn't be
used as permitted.
s. Temple said typically, especially commercial parking lots, we would a
it spaces not be posted for specific users so all the parking would be a
everyone. We normally do not get involved in arrangements regarding
mmissioner McDaniel if we approve this medical use could this office be used
anything other than dental, i.e. a regular doctor could move in if sold.
. Temple said yes, any type of doctor could move in.
mmissioner Toerge had the following concerns:
• The use permit runs with the land.
• If the property is sold in the future the new owner may use it differently. I
could be opened 7 days a week and/or there could be shorter term
appointments.
• Land use decision needs to be made on this.
• More discussion from the Staff on this use being permitted.
• PA zoning is not medical.
• Parking ratio is some what significant, but the trip generation is ve
significant.
• Are we suggesting that our traffic models and street designs would
adequately allow medical use in all PA Zones when medical traffic is thre
times as much as office.
Temple responded as follows:
• The Newport Beach Zoning Code, while it does have a sub - category o
medical office in the use classification of professional and business offices
has always allowed medical offices in every district where professional anc
business offices are used.
• In fact, there is only one zone district in the whole City where we actually
call -out medical offices as a separate use with special requirements and tha
is the M-1 -A District or Industrial District.
• To follow that line of reasoning would mean medical offices are prohibited it
every commercial district in the City, other than perhaps some planner
communities where they may be called -out separately.
• Mostly they are lumped together under the broad category of professiona
and business offices and that was one of the rationales used to determine
whether is was considered a permitted use or not.
• The BP District in the Specific Plan does call -out medical offices as a distinc
category.
• Under the County Specific Plan, it was done because they had a desire it
placing a specific limitation beyond the normal for medical offices in tha
particular district. It was based on the size of the medical office, limitinc
them to no more than 4000 square feet.
• When the City adopted the Specific Plan we did try to emulate the Count
Specific Plan as closely as possible, but it was not emulated 100 percent.
One of the provisions that was deleted was the limitation of the 4000 square
feet in the BP District.
• We felt there was good justification to support the argument that medica
offices are allowed in the PA District.
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• In speaking with the County, if that decision where applied county wide
medical offices would virtually not be allowed in any commercial zone in the
County. We didn't think that was a practical intent of those provisions of the
Specific Plan.
• Like in our M -1 -A District, the reason why we call it out separately is we asl
for a use permit in that district only. Otherwise they are considerec
expressed permitted uses and that would be in retail commercial
administrative /professional commercial, and recreational and marin(
commercial.
• We were being consistent in applying our standard application practices an(
standards to the Specific Plan and believe they are permitted use pursuan
to the Specific Plan.
) mmissioner Henn said the staff report says this application is subject to
ecific plan. Each zone district indicates that uses not listed are prohibited. TI
a specific plan and not a general zoning situation. He then asked the Staff
irify how this use is permitted.
Temple stated she didn't have anything to add. She didn't think this sped
r had any use classifications. In the PA Zone in the County Zoning Co(
lical office were not prohibited. The is no use classification in the Coui
ing Code for medical offices. Therefore the code is being applied in
sistent and equitable manner. If the Commission disagrees, that's what th
here for.
nmissioner Toerge said it was hard for him to make a judgment that this use
ropriate in a PA Zone, given our codes list the professional /administrative us
medical uses as two distinctive and separate uses. Medical /dental offices
in the PA Zone.
rman Cole wanted to know if medical /dental uses were permitted in other PP
)s in the City.
Temple said this is the only place where that terminology is used. As Mr
had pointed out, there are medical offices in the professional /administrative
that were approved by the County and we also used that as an indicator the
the reading of the code and the intent of the County.
missioner Hawkins asked if it was the City's intent, when it adopted the Sant:
Heights into the Zoning Code, that the regulations as they relate to medical
intended to be administered as City wide.
Temple answered yes.
on was made by Commissioner McDaniel to uphold the appeal and deny
Permit.
Hawkins encouraged Dr. Wilhelm to appeal this to the City Council.
Eaton said this was a close call for him and wanted to point out
The purpose and intent of the BP District -
o Specifically allows medical and dental offices.
• Allow the maintenance of professional /administrative
commercial uses, etc.
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The purpose and intent of the PA District -
o The maintenance of an optimal environment for moderate intens
professional /administrative office uses.
• This possibly suggests that they may have intended to be
different environment in terms of level of intensity.
• The traffic model indicates that medical offices are a high
intensity.
• Conceivably the County was deliberate in not allowing medic
offices in the PA Zone, because the zone was intended
accommodate moderate intensity.
The parking was a concern in that we didn't use this opportunity to rect
the existing non - conformity on the parking and we didn't have any discreti
on parking.
Wilhelm asked for a continuation.
Temple said a continuation would only be helpful if the applicant
ional information that might further support his position.
Wilhelm was then told to get with Ms. Ung for directions on how to file
eal with the Citv Council.
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Thirty First Street, LLC (PA2006 -031)
407, 409, 411 & 413 31 st Street
Permit to establish a height limit of 31 -feet, exceeding the base height limit
yet, for the construction of four mixed -use buildings and approval of
mercial floor area ratio (FAR) less than the minimum 0.25 FAR required
d use development projects. In addition, the applicant is requesting 1
oval of a modification permit to allow parking spaces to encroach within 1
and rear setbacks and a lot line adjustment to adjust the interior prope
of four lots into four equally sized parcels.
ime Murillo, Associate Planner, gave an overview on the staff report noting
lowing:
• The Commission would not be able to take action on this item tonigh
because of the inadequately prepared Public Notice, but the Staff would like
to have a discussion and receive the Commission's comments.
• The proposed project involves the demolition an existing retail building anc
automobile repair facility, and redeveloping the site with 4 new mixed -use
buildings. With the exception of the architectural treatments, each buildinc
will be similarly designed and will consist of 750 square feet of commercia
space on the ground floor and a two -level residential unit above.
• Although mixed -use developments are consistent with General Plan an(
permitted uses with the Cannery Village Specific Plan, projec
implementation requires the approval of four discretionary applications
which include a use permit for increased height and reduced commercia
floor area, a modification permit for parking space encroachments into the
front and rear setbacks, and a lot line adjustment.
• A detailed review and analysis of each of the requests has been included it
the staff report. In summary, Staff believes sufficient facts to support the
findings for the requested increase in height and reduction in commercia
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area are evident given the size and location of the lot, and design of
project. The applicant has presented an attractive design that meets
Cannery Village theme using a variety of architectural elements
complements the surrounding properties by providing attractive details
visual relief on all sides of the building.
Staff believes 2 of the 3 required findings for approval of the modifica
permit request can be made related to compatibility with the neighborh
and ensuring that the encroachments will not prove detrimental. Howe
Staff questions whether or not there are sufficient facts to support one of
required findings and would like to engage the Commission into a discus;
to determine whether the justifications for the parking space encroachm(
are adequate.
Staff believes there is a fair argument to say that the lots are small in s
and therefore creates a practical difficulty in accommodating a via
commercial and residential development permitted by code while provic
the necessary parking. However, Staff also recognizes that there are o1
design alternatives that could accommodate complying parking spaces,
is unsure whether or not that would result in a less successful commer
space, and therefore inconsistency with the purpose of the Cannery Vi1L
Specific Plan.
Depending on the outcome and direction we receive, Staff will re- notice
project and return with a draft resolution on November 16th.
irman Cole wanted clarification on what are the issues to be focused
Murillo said they would like to focus most on the modification request,
Id also appreciate any comments from the Commission on any of the c
mmendations from the Staff.
Temple said in the last part of the staff report was a discussion on land u
flicts and this is another location where one of the units will overlook
imercial parking lot for a restaurant. There may be some design solutions tt
ht assist in minimizing that possibility for conflict. Therefore, the Staff was
a if the Commission would want to discuss this tonight.
nmissioner Hawkins questioned opening the hearing on this item since it
properly noticed and the possibility the public did not receive the notice.
s. Temple responded the Public Hearing was noticed on this item, it just left
ie aspect of the application, that related to the encroachment of the parl
)ace into the front yard setback. There isn't a problem with opening the hea
nce we are not going to take an action tonight.
issioner Eaton had a couple of design related issues, first of which is:
• What does the Specific Plan allow?
• In the Mariner's Mile Specific Plan we have specific design criteria.
• This project is in the specialty retail part of the Specific Plan, which
described as the retail core. However, these units appear to have bel
designed with the retail as an after thought.
• In contrast to the Cannery Lofts; the entrance to the residential takes up
significant portion of the commercial frontage. There is no access to tl
commercial occupancy from the street.
• Can we address this issue in the Specific Plan, since the Specific Plan do4
not currently allow us to say this project is not designed to meet the intent.
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Temple answered:
• The City's Zoning Code, in some areas, have intent and purposes.
• One of the weakness of the code, in Staffs opinion, is it never follow
through enacting regulations that would address that intent and purpose.
• The actual regulations do not require things that were suggested, but a
include all of the same provisions that allow less commercial FAR throu
certain permit approval processes.
• There is no criteria for what design feature might assist a core pedestri
retail area. In fact the permitted land uses, compared to the other parts
the Specific Plan, have little, if any, differences. It would be difficult to st
asking for project modifications that are consistent or consistent with 1
procedures to allow exception in the Zoning Code, even if it is thought ti
the project does not meet some of the intent and purpose.
• This is something that the Commission can take into consideration.
• These are residential units with enough commercial to satisfy the Cit
requirement.
Eaton then addressed the second part of his issue:
• The most westerly unit has it's balconies overlooking Rudy's parking
which will end up with the same situation as the Newport Beach Brev
Company.
• Do we have the ability to suggest to the applicant that we can not make
findings as to compatibility unless perhaps those units were reversed so
more blank wall was facing the alley, which would not have the balcoi
overlooking the parking lot.
Temple said that if the Commission could not make the findings related to the
patibility to the neighborhood, they could ask for that change.
imissioner Hawkins had some concerns:
The compatibility issue was a concern.
The project abuts the AkAnon facility, which may have compatibility issues.
Regarding the land use incompatibilities, he handed out a letter, in
connection with another project, from a firm of Jackson, DeMarco, Tidus,
and Peckenpaugh. This letter had items that could be considered,
including deed restrictions, conditions for release and covenant not to sue,
and other CC &R restrictions. He pointed out that Mr. Jackson stated the
likelihood that an owner of a unit in the residential project will make a claim
against the operator is significantly reduced. It doesn't eliminate it, but it
may affect it.
i Cole suggested starting with the land use conflict and get
for Staff and asked the following
• This is a mixed -use project which is permitted under the General Plan,
proposed General Plan and the Cannery Village Specific Plan.
• Was the Staff looking for direction on the perceived conflicts of land use
the adjacency to restaurants and bars and other uses that might allow tl
to redesign their project.
• Was the 8 -foot high wall that would be a buffer a proposal or sugges
from the applicant?
• Has the real estate disclosure condition been suggested?
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. Is the reversal of the floor plan of the buildings to face inward not somethin
the applicant is willing to consider because it s not achievable due to desig
or cost reasons?
r. Murillo answered as follows:
• The 8 -foot high wall is a feature that the applicant has proposed.
• The real estate disclosure condition has been suggested as well as the
of double -paned windows to help insulate noise.
• The applicant's preference is to maintain the design as proposed.
Wilson, the applicant, introduced himself along with Bill Guidero
A. Mr. Wilson made the following comments:
• He was aware of the issue pertaining to the Newport Beach Brewinc
Company and that it was a hot button, but thought there were some distinc
differences between the way the project faces towards Rudy's parking lot..
• They had reviewed the direction that the project faces and felt it was in the
best interest to face with the light and ventilation. That is why it is faced du(
West.
• They have looked at the Newport Beach Brewing Company situation an(
have been involved with this situation.
• Felt there was a distinct difference between the Newport Beach Brewinc
Company which is a pub, and Rudy's which is more of a grill and a pub.
• They have talked to Rudy's, and Sober Living (the Newport Club) regardinc
different things and feel that everyone is following their intending uses an(
can all co- exist.
• Feel they have a great design. The elevation is key from Newpor
Boulevard. It could be changed but you would be looking at a blank wal
and pointed out what it would look like in the handouts.
• They have had a lot of practice since they have tenants and managc
properties in Cannery Village. They have 13 tenants in Cannery Village
which include lawyers, commercial artists, equipment companies, florist, an(
hair stylists.
• They are knowledgeable on what type of spaces people are looking for in
Cannery Village and what are commercial viable and successful.
• A big component of the other facilities was looking at what is the commercia
entrance and what is the residential entrance and felt that was important t(
encourage both the residential and the commercial aspect to co-mingle.
airman Cole thought the concern of the Commission is the noise and rowdy
uptive behavior from adjacent uses like this have been issues in the past.
re is a genuine concern that this will happen again with the approval of WE
lication. He then asked what the was the different number of the bedrooms it
units.
Wilson said 3 bedroom and 2 bath units.
rman Cole asked if the buyers would probably be young professionals,
Wilson said in the Cannery Loft most live and work in their units, so that woc
)ably be the same for this project. They will be holding the units and renti
n out. He believes the difference between this project and Cannery Lofts
those lofts are looking down on the Brewery's parking lot and the entrance
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ie restaurant, which they are saying is a bar. Where as with this project they %
e looking at the backside of a 2 -story brick building and the parking lot would t
xposed to the outside decks, which should be a buffer. They are not expecting
be quiet. Behind the project is the Newport Club and there will be son
ongregation issue there also. He believes the type of clientele that will ren
iese units will understand what they will be looking at while standing on the
alconies. He didn't see any change of renting out these units within the next 5
0 years.
imissioner Hawkins asked if Mr. Wilson had received a copy of the Jacksc
larco letter and encouraged him to read it over. Commissioner then asks
they are not seeking any subdivision and that these units are simply for rent.
Wilson answered correct. The only thing they are seeking is a lot
stment. They purchased the lot -in -a -half next to the 3 original lots they
will be spreading the half lot equally among the 4 lots.
oner Hawkins asked Mr. Wilson, in speaking with the Cannery
if they had complained about noise from Rudy's.
Wilson got the impression from the them that their expectations after me
were different from when they bought the units as residential. The issues
Brewery are a concern but didn't feel the issues will be the same at RI
;ause there is not a front door that will be viewed from any of units. They
d to address this with some open areas in the 8 -foot wall going down the
ommissioner Hawkins said that the Cannery Lofts residents had mentioned
m that they are concerned with the Rudy's operation as well. He felt the client
this project will be similar to that of the Cannery Lofts and wasn't sure there w
way out of the compatibility issue.
Eaton asked the following question:
The staff report says you cannot connect the commercial and the resident
to make them real live /work. Do the Cannery Lofts also not have
connection between their downstairs commercial element and t
residential.
Wilson believed they were separate units.
Temple said the building code wouldn't permit it because of use
Eaton asked the following question:
Asked if the reason for keeping the units on single lots was for the
of being able to sell them in the future.
Wilson said yes, but initial intention is to hold them as rentals for an
od as far as there vision at the moment.
missioner McDaniel said the Commission is very concerned with sound and
seen a lot of complaints with the activities in the area. He cautioned the
cant to pay a lot of attention to how they buffer the sound and they wil
ably see some deed restrictions.
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airman Cole wanted to know if there was a consensus on the land i
gestion by Commissioner Eaton on redesigning the project to face inward
can give the applicant some direction for the next meeting.
nmissioner Toerge said anything that can be done to minimize the compatibilii
ie will be favorable. He addressed his concern that the lot nearest Rudy's
a small lot, and the lot line adjustment request is to make all the lots the sam
They then use the small lot argument as a reason for justifying th
roachments in the setback. Commissioner Toerge said he was not inclined 1
hardship for small lots or any physical hardship to justify the encroachment i
setback.
)mmissioner Hawkins referred to the purpose of the Cannery Village Specif
an, code section 20.43.020 -D - "The Cannery Village area is intended to sere
c active pedestrian -oriented specialty retail area with a wide range of visito
.ruing, neighborhood commercial, and marine - related uses permitted" and then
Iks about the core area that Commissioner Eaton referred to. He was concerne
th the design of the project and it's retail access issues and didn't think it cou
considered retail. He would like to see the retail be more prominent.
nmissioner Eaton said he was in agreement with this and would also try
;e the pedestrian entrance more subtle.
nmissioner Henn pointed out that this was just 750 square feet and wo
er be significant specialty retail. Therefore, he would have more flexibility H
project.
Wilson wanted to address that the commercial was a side load and irim
ause of the handicap access. The front parking space was a handicapp
ce and the ramp had to access that space.
airman Cole asked Mr. Wilson to speak about the encroachment issue and i
sing design.
. Wilson said the Cannery Lofts had asked for the same encroachment and tl
re he got it and it helps that commercial space. Any openings on the side ne
be 10 feet clear from the property line, which make it a very long and narr
ilding. When you encroach these 10 -foot from the rear on the parking and
�t from the front, there is a minimal of commercial left.
Cole said so the encroachment is for the parking requirement more
size.
Wilson said the other thing was to avoid tandem on commercial.
issioner Hawkins said he could be flexible on the request if some of
were addressed.
Toerge asked what were the width of the current lots.
. Wilson said the first lot, number 407, is 45 feet and lots 409, 411 and 413 a
30 feet.
Orman Cole said he didn't have a major problem with the encroachments
reasons given, but feels there should be some stronger real estate disclosu
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ner Hawkins referred to the Jackson, DeMarco letter and the
mentioned in the letter and they should be considered or included
rman Cole said he agreed that if these were addressed it would help in
use issue.
Henn would like to see a better case for the hardship on
Peotter said he would not like to see a blank wall facing
comment was opened.
comment was closed.
Cole asked if this item needed to be formally continued.
Temple said we would continue this item and also re- notice it. Ms. T
ted to be clear on what the Commission would like to see on this project:
• A strong desire for the applicant to study the retail entrance from the front.
• The Commission is split on the modification, but might be convinced if t
applicant writes up a more complete case to support the finding for appro-
on the setbacks.
• Requirements other than require reversal of the units.
iissioner Toerge asked if there is anything that restricts these units from
residential on the ground floor.
s. Temple said the current General Plan and Zoning require that commercial
component of these projects and that is to be on the ground floor and resider
only allowed on the second floor and above. The new General Plan mal
odifications to this. It will continue to be a mixed -use area but it would allow
id -block portions of this area to go exclusive residential, only requir
immercial at street intersections. This particular project has no str
tersections because the alleys are not counted as streets, so this project cc
> exclusive residential once the zoning mechanism to implement the r
sneral Plan is established.
Toerge addressed the following:
• The suitability of the these small lots for the intended purpose of puttinc
commercial on the ground floor.
• He wasn't inclined to compromise fundamental planning requirements in ar
effort to make this project happen.
• Felt there was another way to develop the property that is commercially
reasonable and is suitable that wouldn't require modifications.
• There seems to be a perceived entitlement to some of these properties.
They have entitlement subject to the requirements in the codes and the
development standards.
• Perhaps they should make this into a 3 lot subdivision instead of a 4 to
subdivision and be within the code.
issioner Hawkins asked Ms. Temple if it was the intent of the New
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to obliterate the requirement in the Specific Plan on the core specialty retai
>, or is there some accommodation, or are the core areas would move to the
ars in the New General Plan.
Temple said there was a recognition that Cannery Village does supl
lest amount of viable commercial, it isn't a main commercial district beta
area is off the beaten path. Not requiring commercial on every property m
to to make that more viable. The requirement in the mid -block area is not
residential, it allows exclusive residential but also allows mixed -use
lusive commercial.
nissioner Hawkins then asked if any requirements of this project would take
seat to the requirements of the General Plan.
s. Temple said should the General Plan be approved there may be great inten
certain areas to make use of the new provisions of the Land Use Plan. As p:
the implementation program, we could see an interim zoning that would apply
areas of change in Newport Beach. That would provide some sped
cretionary path to exercise those General Plan provisions. It may take
>nths or longer to enact all the code changes. We would have to work with t
:y Attorney's office to make sure any interim provisions are appropriate.
Cole asked for a motion to continue this item to a later date.
was made by Commissioner McDaniel to continue this item to
None
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Isla Vista Homes (PA2004 -123)
2920 Newport Boulevard .
;ral Plan Amendment, Zone Code Amendment, Tract Map and Modificati
iit to develop 44 detached residential condominium units on a 3.25 acre si
general plan designation would be changed from General Industry to Mu
ly Residential and the zoning district would be changed from M -1
trolled Manufacturing) to MFR (Multi - Family Residential). A Modificati
iit has been requested to allow setback encroachments, decreased distan
een structures and increased wall height in required setbacks.
Planner Brandon Nichols gave an overview of the staff report noting:
• Development consists of 44 detached condominiums.
• Staff is requesting input from the Commission on the design
modifications necessary to facilitate it.
• The applicant will present a formal presentation.
McDermott of Government Solutions, representing the property owner,
the following:
• Both the architect and property owners are available.
• Referencing the exhibit, she noted the location of the project bounded
Monrovia Avenue, Banning Ranch and the termination of 15th Street.
• A vicinity map was then displayed and explained.
• A current lease on the southern portion of the property runs for an additic
ITEM No. 6
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5 years.
Temple noted that the mobile home park located on 15th Street will be
and the paperwork is in process.
Ms. McDermott noted:
• Offers to meet with nearby residents have been attempted but n
accomplished; however, she is hopeful that one will take place in the ne
future.
• Their entitlement request consists of a General Plan Amendment to charn
the land use designation from General Industrial to Multi - Family Residentie
This is consistent with the proposed General Plan. A Zone Coi
Amendment to change the current zoning designation from Light Industr
to Multi - Family Residential; a Tract Map for condominium purposes; and
Modification Permit and a Mitigated Negative Declaration, which has bei
circulated.
• The project consists of 44 detached town homes and will be built in tv
phases. The first is 34 units and upon completion of the five year lease i
the office building, the second phase will be 10 units.
• They are all three stories. There are four floor plans that range from 1,800
1,900 square feet.
• Referencing the site plan, she noted the right of way required by Pub
Works for 15th Street is 104 feet.
• The first phase will have access off Monrovia with special textured paving
Referencing the plan, she noted the walkways and open space and ti
location of the units.
• Phase two will have the front setback on 15th Street with the side yards r
Monrovia. There will be two driveways coming into the project.
• She then noted a typical lot layout with entries into the garages from tl
alleys and driveways. She then noted the patio areas, living area
landscape, bicycles and trash areas.
• The north phase will be developed first. She then discussed in detail ti
procedures and processes.
• The proposed project exceeds code requirements for open space. Comm(
recreation areas are provided in the plan and the open space concept is
private patio for each unit to include this mixture of landscape ai
hardscape.
• Patios are allowed in the open space and allowed in the setbacks.
• Walkways are allowed in the open space.
• A comparison of the patios and paseos of this project and the Sailhou:
project was shown.
missioner Eaton wanted to know if this project was going to have the first
behind the paseo fence be landscape as does the Sailhouse project.
;. McDermott answered that their landscaping plan had not been developed
but they would be willing to work with the Commission on that.
McDermott continued:
Referring to a slide of the Monrovia Avenue street scene she pointed out the
landscaping in the front, the retaining wall and picketed fence, which wouk
be the open space in the front yard. Because of the standards of wal
heights, they are asking for a modification. They feel they meet the intent o
front yards, landscape front yards and front open space, but the code doe:
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not permit it without a modification.
She then went onto the elevations of the different plans, explaining tt
raised areas, the architectural articulation of the buildings, and the varior
architectural details.
Slides were then shown on the different floor plan models, noting tt
different levels.
Ms. McDermott then addressed the following modifications requested.
• Distance Between Buildings -
o The code currently requires 10 feet between buildings, which is tt
standard required for an apartment building consisting of numeror
units. This project has single - family units and they are requesting tt
7 foot standard to be applied. At this point she referenced a slic
showing single - family units, with multi - family characteristics, and
feet between each unit. They had considered attached building
which would not have required the setback, but for marketing ar
other considerations it made more sense to be detached units with tt
reduced side yards. She also noted that the plans on Sailhou:
showed they also had 7 feet between the buildings.
• Side Yard Setbacks -
o The side yard setbacks on the north parcel were based on tt
irregular configuration of the lot and 104 -foot right -of -way dedication.
• The right yard setback is required to bel8.12 -feet and they a
proposing 10 -feet.
• The left yard setback is required to be18.12 -feet and they a
proposing 17.9 -feet.
issioner Hawkins questioned the environmental document and the land
s of the project, which indicates there are no impacts or less than signifi
s in connection with the project and that it is consistent with the land
ments. However there are modifications being proposed.
McDermott responded the Mitigated Negative Declaration (MND) m
3red on the basis of a PRD Zone. After working through those standards,
apparent that the MFR Zone was more appropriate. Either would have
Scant parking requirement or some modifications. The modifications, from
In standpoint, were appropriate request and from an environmental standpoi
weren't any real impacts. It was their understanding the environment
ultant felt, from a CEQA standpoint, there were no impacts of the change.
Nichols responded as follows:
The original design that was analyzed by the
they changed the zoning designation.
Under the MFR regulations there is a certain
allow regarding setbacks and distance between
When you remove the PRD you create the n
MFR standards.
MND did not change
amount of flexibility that
buildings.
3ed for modifications unc
sioner Hawkins said his concern was we now have a s
on with modifications and how does that fit in with the
in the MND.
Temple addressed that question:
. CEQA assess and analyze the environmental impacts of projects, includ
in a land use sense.
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The approval of the modifications is a needed planning application an(
those are evaluated on different basis than environmental affects.
She concurs with the environmental consultant that, in this particular case
no additional affects nor mitigation measures would have been identified
had the original project description include this component of the application
nmissioner Hawkins then asked now that the project includes the requirem
modifications, does the Staff believe those requirements do not enhance
ate additional adverse impacts.
Temple answered yes, because the assessment in CEQA pursuant to advi
ronmental affects is directly in relationship to adverse affects on the phy:
ronment. Whether or not the City has or approves a planning applicatio
result in the field is the same, what we are assessing is the impact of
3lopment and not the compliance with the provisions of the Zoning Code.
McDermott continued with the modifications requested:
Walls - Design - Use -
o Request over - height walls in the front, rear, and side yard setbacks.
• Referring to a slide, she pointed out a typical wall condition.
■ 4 foot 6 inch to 5 foot retaining wall.
■ 3 foot 6 inch picket fence.
■ Total wall height of 8 feet to 8 feet 6 inches.
• The wall, landscaping, and patio are all part of yards.
• Typically walls are restricted in front yards, due to driveways and I
restricted view the wall may create, but in this project all of the parki
is from the rear of the unit.
Cole asked if this would occur where there is a garage.
McDermott said no because the garage faces the alley or the driveway.
irement does not preclude it in that location.
McDermott continued:
Walls - Design - Use -
• Wall height along the north property line varies.
• If the wall is shielding the at -grade patios it would be a 6 -foot wal
which no modification is requested.
• The retaining wall with the above fencing would be an 11 -foot wal
and was designed to be higher where the property is adjacent to th
adjoining industrial property and where there are paseos.
• Ms. McDermott then recapped where the over - height walls wer
located by pointing them out on the slide.
• A comparison of Sailhouse's 7 -foot distance between buildings an
over - height walls in the front yard setback was shown.
• Total retaining wall height was 7 feet 8 inches.
• Picket fence height was 3 feet 6 inches.
• Total wall height was 11 feet 2 inches.
Light Wells in the Front Yards -
Ms. McDermott referred to the slide pointing out where the light H
was located.
There is no visible encroachment into the setback, but from
technical standpoint it does require a modification.
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. Ms. McDermott then addressed the parking requirements.
• Some local residents have had parking issues regarding One Nautical
Mile and the abuse of an adjoining driveway. These residents would
like to know about the parking requirements for this project.
• The zone requirements vary considerably.
• MFR requires 2 covered spaces per unit and .5 guest spaces.
• PRD requires 2 covered spaces per unit and 2 guest spaces,
including street parking.
• R -1 requires 2 covered spaces.
• This project is between the MFR requirement, the R -1 requirement,
and PRD is sometime used but seldom used because the standard is
very difficult to meet.
• We have provide the following for this project-
• On -site covered parking at 2 per unit which equals 88 total
spaces.
• On -site guest parking at .5 per unit which equals 22 total.
• Street parking on Monrovia Avenue, only for their side of the
street, equaled 20 street parking spaces.
• Along the future of 15th Street there would be an additional 1
spaces.
• Ultimate on and off -site guest parking would total 56 gues
spaces.
• This meets the parking requirements.
;sioner McDaniel requested Ms. McDermott to point out where the
is located.
)ner Hawkins asked that the Staff address the on- street
15th Street.
Brine, Public Works Principal Civil Engineer, responded to Commissio
(ins question stating once 15th Street is improved there will be no parking
Street.
McDermott responded that this was the first time they had been told that.
r. Brine said they typically do not allow parking on arterial roadways. It
McDermott said the David Keely, from the Public Works Department, said
ing would be allowed. Ms. McDermott said they would need to work
is Works on this issue.
r. Brine said they would have to review this situation, but felt parking would
Hawkins suggested the applicant and Staff readdress this issue.
McDermott said depending on the outcome of land use in Banning Ranch, th
tional right -of -way may or may not be ultimately needed. So there could be
ction in the roadway width and that would allow parking even under tt
;nt standards. They will work on that before the next meeting.
issioner Hawkins had concerns on:
. The 104 -foot width of the right -of -way. Traffic accessing Coast Highway
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and crowded conditions on Superior and Newport Boulevard.
. Encouraged Staff to retain that requirement for as long as possible.
McDermott continued:
. Referring to the site plan, she pointed out all the different areas for parking.
McDaniel asked how wide the parking was at the entrance.
McDermott answered it is 36 feet, wide enough to allow two lanes of
parking.
Temple stated that 36 feet is our private road standard and would
nq on both sides of the street.
nissioner Eaton asked Staff if they would look at the Sailhouse pro,
ding the side -to -side separations from building face to building face, and
to- front. He thinks the front -to -front across the paseo from building
ng is greater than on this project and would like that verified.
missioner McDaniel expressed his concern on using the roadway for parking
cluttered it would make the project and would like to see more guest parking.
issioner Eaton asked Ms. McDermott to point out the common
how large they are, and what they may be used for.
McDermott did not have the square footage at this time but could provide
the next meeting. She then pointed out where they were located, and that
>uld be landscaped and have benches.
Peotter asked`.
• If they had considered having a pool or common recreation facility.
• Will they be contributing towards Williamson Act, park land, etc.?
• Where is the closest park that would serve this project?
McDermott answered:
• Looking at the Sailhouse project, which does not have these facilities, tt
didn't seemed to be a lot of demand for on -site recreational areas so 1
left it in a passive state on this project.
• They will pay their annual park fees to the City for the enhancement of
existing public recreation space.
• She said there will be a new park down the hill. The parcel was
purchased from CalTrans and is to have ball fields and other ac
recreational spaces.
imissioner Hawkins asked about the One Nautical Mile project, how large
and if it had a pool and recreational facilities.
Nichols answered he didn't know the size of the development, but it did
s a pool.
comment opened.
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Christian, homeowner at Newport Knolls which is across the street from
sed development, expressed the following:
• He was not opposed to developing this area but did not want to see it ove
developed.
• Concerned about the parking. Since One Nautical Mile project finishec
15th Street at night has no parking left. The parking that the applicant is
expecting on the west side of Monrovia will be non - existent. It is a higl
density area.
• The speed limit is still 40MPH on 15th Street, which now has a lot c
residential, and should be lowered.
• They would like to see on -site parking for any new development in the area.
• As the area becomes more developed, more and more people are parking ii
their development, which is not gated. They now have parking permits any
towing of unauthorized vehicles.
• The residents at One Nautical Mile actual come over the fence and use thi
pool facilities in their development. They are very concerned that anothe
facility without a pool will just create more people using their pool. They an
dealing with the HOA at One Nautical Mile to remedy these problems.
mnifer Irani, homeowner at Newport Knolls and serves on the HOA, al;
;pressed her concerns on the parking and recreational area. She wanted
cus on the speed limit and all the new traffic, and could the speed limit I
wered to make it safer. She also wanted to know about the fence that went frc
feet to 11 feet and how that effected the property owner adjacent to that. She
partner of the adjacent property.
mmissioner Toerge suggested the Ms. Irani and any other owner of tt
acent property make their concerns known to the Commission.
mmissioner McDaniel wanted to get her input on the parking and who is parkir
the street and why.
. Irani said she wasn't sure but with One Nautical Mile becoming occupied ar
re is an apartment complex in the area, there just seems to be a influx of cars.
McDaniel asked Staff, for the next hearing on this item, to find out what tt
king requirements are for some of the adjacent properties and if that impact
ising everyone to park on the street and how we should address that for th
Temple responded that the current zoning requirement is 2.5 parking sp;
unit for all properties zoned MFR. If the Commission thinks that is inadeq
need to change the code.
;y Malone, HOA president of Newport Knolls, feels the lack of parking at O
tical Mile is that they have a lot of renters, which tends to be college studei
5 people living in one unit and they all have cars. They seem to be the or
are parking on the streets, parking on Newport Knolls property and coming
pool.
comment closed.
Toerge addressed the following:
• We say this has been re -zoned MFR, but the General Plan just talks
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density and it has not been re -zoned MFR.
• There are different ways of approaching this project, the PRD District, F
District, and MFR District. The PRD District has an enormous parkir
requirement, so an applicant would rather process an application under
MFR which would reduce the parking requirement. The MFR has oth
issues that the applicant is requesting modifications for.
• The MFR Zone may be applicable for an attached - housing project.
o Deep setback requirements that might be more suitable for a proje
consolidated with subterranean parking, and multiple condos in tt
middle.
• It seems the applicant has chosen single - family homes and the MFR zonir
to minimize the parking requirement.
• When is it appropriate to use PRD, PC or MFR zoning for project like tt
that are really single - family?
Nichols responded:
Staff wanted input from the Commission because of the issues in our curr
code dealing with projects like this.
There were similar questions with the Sailhouse project, which is M
zoned. MFR zoning regulations do not map well onto a small -lot detact
sub - divisions, but does allow detached units within it as a permitted use.
Regarding the different entitlement options for this project -
o PRD -
■ PRD was added to the MFR and imposed 2 guest park
space requirement, which is four times the MFR requirement.
■ The PRD standard seems to apply to a small -lot conventio
sub - division that would have a driveway in front and that wo
satisfy the 2 guest parking spaces There are not a lot of the
in the City. PRD was considered for this project but not chos
due to the projects inability to satisfy the parking requirement.
o PC -
• Was never on the table.
• PC is intended for large parcels as reflected in the actual
regulations that require a minimum of 10 developed acres.
MFR -
The MFR designation allows this type of development.
The project would require modifications to MFR deg
standards..
■ MFR development standards are intended to apply to I
attached projects, as evidenced by the large 18 -foot side
requirement and the 10 foot required building separation.
. These issues were dealt with at the Sailhouse project and they were all
6 feet between the buildings.
Toerge responded as follows:
• The PC requirement on the 10 acres could be changed with the Planning
Commission's approval. It may a good idea to reduce this PC requiremen
because of less and less larger areas to be developed, as residential, in ou
City.
• A more conventional MFR design may be more suitable for this project.
• The right -of -way being used as the front yard, when it is not currentl,
dedicated or built, should be taken into consideration and discussed.
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• PRD does allow street parking to be calculated for parking purposes.
• Using MFR zoning and then counting street parking is disingenuous.
• The guest parking is not suitable and is inadequate.
• The open spaces could be more centrally located.
• Would like the Staff to address the suitability of approving Phase II that
not be developed within the time frame of the permit.
• The Sailhouse project has some distinct differences.
• It incorporates some combined attached housing along with
single - family detached housing.
• When comparing the heights of walls and retaining walls,
Sailhouse project is on a slope where as this project is on a flat lot.
• The wall that goes from 6 feet to 11 feet is a concern and the adjai
property owners should opine on that.
• The parking issue needs to be completely revisited because of
inadequacies.
man Cole asked Commissioner Toerge what zoning was more
than MFR.
>sioner Toerge said the PRD seems to be more suitable zoning for th
y, especially the parking requirement. The MFR is more oriented towards
Jetted detached project. The problem he has, is asking for one type
that benefits the parking ratio and then asking for modifications to make
r other issues.
irman Cole said they are asking for a General Plan amendment, which I
s the right to do under the current and proposed General Plan. He then as
f to clarify that the applicant is not asking for a parking modification, but
parking requirement has is met on -site and the street parking is ancillary to
airement. The only modification requested is for the encroachment issue.
Nichols answered that was correct and that when Staff was evaluatin
:ct they would not consider the on- street parking and it does meet
.ing requirement for on -site parking.
iissioner McDaniel said this is an Industrial Zone and doesn't currently
requirements. As proposed, the parking doesn't work for the project.
Eaton addressed the following:
. The MFR Zone was intended for conventional attached units with
suitable for those units.
When designing a single - family sub - division in a MFR zone, there may be
disconnect for the parking.
The Sailhouse project was more lineal, had a public street on one side at
had a private street on the back side of the project which could be used f
parking, and thinks that project had more than the .5 parking space per w
and would like Staff to possibly check into that.
immissioner Henn said he likes the detached single - family design and would
see some way to stay with that approach.
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Motion made by Commissioner Hawkins to continue this item to December 7,
12006.
yes: Eaton, Peotter, Hawkins, Cole, McDaniel, Toerge and Henn
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Planning Commission Rules of Procedures
Commission agreed taking this item up after 10:30.
Temple presented a draft report that includes input from both Commissiom
staff. This item has resulted from past circumstances and at Commissi
;tion regarding the rules of procedures. This draft report includes a drafts
s that have been revised.
issioner Hawkins then distributed his copy of the rules with his
He then noted his comments:
• Study Sessions - No specific times or day; expand subject matter; remov
reference to what can be done and remove redundant reference to officio
action.
• Agendas - add verbiage 'as provided herein' in paragraph A; and addition c
verbiage related to maximum public participation.
• Voting - add reference to another form of voting in the event the light syster
becomes inoperable; add verbiage requiring Commissioner to state reason
he or she is disqualified from voting on an item;
• Order of Business - verbiage referencing noticing of hearings as proscribe
by City Clerk's office.
• Conduct of Meetings - add identification of speakers; a second motion i
now required; the Chairman may not make motions.
City Attorney Harp noted:
. Order of Business - Hearings shall be noticed as required by law.
ioner Hawkins opined a difference between noticing by City Clerk
Commission and is suggested keeping the same reference.
Temple noted this is a procedure for staff, not for Planning Commissioner.
ever, she will look into the matter.
continued on the appointment of Commissioners to
and how the appointments are made.
Toerge noted:
• He does not support a second motion rule other than for a s
motion.
• The Chairman should be able to make motions.
• The minutes should not be on the Consent Calendar.
• Remove the Consent Calendar altogether as it has not served the
for which it was originally intended.
• Committee assignment issue is not necessary.
!re was a consensus by the Commission to remove the consent calendar
agenda.
Temple affirmed that there would be no problem with removing the
Approved
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from the agenda.
tirperson Cole then went through the drafts and the following was agreed to
Commission:
. Section VI: Time of Meetings -
B - Add, "When this schedule conflicts with holidays or the mand
of priority projects, the Commission may alter this schedule as
forth in sections E and F below."
• C - Agreed to proposed language regarding "any other matter witl
the jurisdiction of the Planning Commission."
• C - Remove reference of specific time or days of study sessioi
remove reference to type of materials received at study session a
remove final sentence regarding official action as it is redundant.
• Section VII: Agendas -
o A - Add verbiage 'as provided herein' in paragraph A;
• B - add verbiage related to maximum public participation.
• Section VIII Voting Procedure -
o B - Add, "In case of emergency or problems with the vote registeri
lighting system, the Chairman may determine any other reasonal
manner to vote and register votes on any matters on any agenda.
• C - the first sentence to read, "Any Commissioner who is disqualifi
from voting on a particular matter by reason of a conflict of inten
shall publicly state or have the Chairman state this determination a
the nature of such disqualification in open meeting.
• D and E - shall be re- worked for clarification.
• Section IX Order of Business -
o Remove consent calendar.
o Remove 4a that references proscribed noticing, as it is not necessary.
. Section X Conduct of Meetings -
o C - Remove residence request;
• Add use of sign in sheet at podium;
E - second to a motion is required;
F - remove the last sentence in F
motion treated as an amendment.
. Section XI Committee -
o No change.
. Section XV Amendment of Rules -
Chairman not able to make motion.
relating to voting on the substitute
A - These rules may be proposed to be amended or added to by fou
affirmative votes of the Planning Commission at a regular meetini
pursuant to the procedures in Section XV.
made by Commissioner Peotter and seconded by Commissioner Eaton
the chanaes to the rules of Drocedures.
Eaton, Peotter,
None
None
a. City Council Follow -up - Ms. Temple noted the City Council heard 1
second reading and adoption of ordinances to Koll Center and Aeronutro
Ford Planned Community; approved a professional services agreement
hire Hogle Ireland for the services of David Lepo to serve as inter
Planning Director.
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b. Report from Planning Commission's representative to the Ecor
Development Committee - Commissioner Henn said the draft of Stra
Plan hasn't been completed. It will be considered again by
subcommittee and should be approved by the EDC at the next meetir
November 22, 2006, at which point it will go to the City Council for our
session.
c. Report from the Planning Commission's representative to the Local
Committee - no meeting
d. Matters which a Planning Commissioner would like Staff to report on at
subsequent meeting - none
e. Matters which a Planning Commissioner may wish to place on a future
agenda for action and staff report - none
f. Project status - none
g. Requests for excused absences - none
ADJOURNMENT: 11:25 p.m. ADJOURNMENT
ROBERT HAWKINS, SECRETARY
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
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