HomeMy WebLinkAbout12/15/1937DECEPMER 15, 1937.
THE NEWPORT BEACH CITY PLANNING CO':`TJISSION met
in regular session Wedn "day, December 15, 1937
at 7 :30P.1% in the Newport Beach City Council
• Chambers. Chairman Hopkins presiding.
Meeting was called to order by the Chairman.
ROLL CALL - Commissioners present: Hopkins, Seager,
Williams, Briggs, Schnitker,
Patterson, Findlay.
Commissioners absent: Whitson.
City Attny. Thompson, Bldg. Insp. Nelson and
Tarr. Sampson, representing Yr. Tilton also attend
MINUTES
Minutes of the last regular meeting 11/24/37
were called for by the Chairman. It was moved
by Schnitker that the reading of the minutes be
dispensed with as all members had been supplied
with copies thereof. Seconded by Briggs. Motion
carried.
REPORTS OF CO "MITTEES
Balboa Island Set -Back Committee
Chairman a Hopkins called upon Comm.. Briggs as
the chairman of this committee, for a report.
Briggs stated that there was no report from his
committee at this time.
SF?ec��ia__l Plannin C�ommitt�ee
airman calle upd on Dr. Seager as chairman
of this committee for his report. Dr. Seager pres-
ented the map showing the 3 mile zone also detail
maps which show certain areas within this limit
outlining the paticular projects in these areas..
He stated that these maps have been prepared as
a Dermanent record, the large map is printed on
cloth and the smaller ones are to be printed on
the same material. The cost of these maps was
14 dollars and he said the committee would like
the commission's opinion as to whether they should
be mounted at an additional expense of five or six
dollars. Nr. Patterson said they are much easier
to work with in their present form and having them
printed on cloth makes them permanent. Patterson
brought out the fact that the western boundry of
• the 3 mile zone will leave an area without juris-
diction and thinks that the western boundry should
be extended even as far as Hunti_gton Beach if
necessary. Dr. Seager thought Huntington Beach
should be consulted before action is taken.
Chairman suggested. that Dr. Seager confer with
Huntington Beach and secure their cooperation.
Dr. Seager stated that this is a progress report.
CORRESPONDENCE
Secretary read a letter from the American
Society of Planning Officials thanking the commis-
sion for their membership; also a letter from
Arthur Iu. Brown protesting the construction of a
roof over a pergola at 109 Sapphire, Balboa Island.
Mr. Nelson said that a permit could not be issued
for such construction. Chair adivsed the Secretary
to advise I1 ?r. Brown of the Building Inspector's
opinion.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Chairman asked Mr. Nelson to report on the sign
board in Corona del Mar, brought to the attention
of the commission at last meeting by Plrs. Williams.
Mr. Nelson stated that in his opinion the sign
board is not detrimental and does not obstruct
the view of motorists to any extent. Chairman asked
Attny,Thompson if the new Sign Ordinance would
compel the owners of this board to move it..
Thompson said the ordinance applies only to new
signs and would not affect those already erected.
NEW BUSINESS
Mr. Patterson presented the map of Tract 1007
for the consideration of the Commission, said it
had been before the Council and had been referred
to the Commission. He stated that Pr. Harvey
had considered extending an alley through the
property but was not in a position to do so at
this time; he wants to know whether or not the
Planning Commission will force him to put the
alley through before giving its approval to his
reversion to acreage. Chairman Hopkins thought
the matter should be presented in a formal manner..
After examining the map, Attny. Thompson said
the matter should be presented in the proper
manner with the map showing specifically the alley
to be abandoned and the alley to be put through,
then the commission can give the matter consider-
ation. Secretary said there is a letter from
Mr. Harvey on file which was received at the time
the first map was presented to the commission.
Mr. Patterson moved that the Chair appoint a
committee of 2 to contact the property owner and
• report at the next meeting. Seconded by Briggs.
Motion carried. So ordered by the Chairman.
GOOD OF THE CITY
Chairman Hopkins expressed the appreciation
of the Commission for the large number of people
in attendance. He said that the purpose of this
meeting is to review the Traffic Report prepared
in April, 1937 by Mr. Tilton which report outlines
the traffic problems of Newport Beach and suggext-
ed solutions for them. He suggested that the best
way to become familiar with the report is to read
it and so asked the Secretary to do so.
Secretary read the Traffic Report.
At the conclusion of the reading, Chairman
Hopkins asked for expressions of opinion from
those in attendance. He wished to give them one
idea first, however, and that was, "What the
public wants it will eventually get." "We must
determine how we are going to use our land, we
must determine whether it is to be developed as
a picnic ground or as permanent residence property."
Mr. Fred Story, representing the Balboa Busi-
ness Men's Assn., which represents 95 of the
operating business of Balboa, read a letter ad-
dressed to the Commission requesting the commiss-
ion to give serious thought and consideration to .
additional parking facilities in the Balboa busi-
ness district and suggesting a free parking area
on the Ocean front west of the pier. He said that
prospective customers cannot find parking space
on the streets and therefore do not stop in the
business district. Chairman Hopkins asked Mr.
Story how the business men feel about extending
the business district. T•.4r. Story said they are
very much opposed to extending the district. What
they feel is needed is limited time parking (1 hr.)
on the vusiness streets and a place provided for
all day parking for those who come to picnic or
spend the day on the beach. Mr. Hopkins inquired
what the business men think about putting a boule-
vard along the ocean front, TTr. Story said they
would object very much to any such plan. Mr.
Thompson thought there was no possibility of a
street ever going in along the beach front and
that this right of way should be abandoned.
Chairman Hopkins called on Mr. Day to express
his opinion as a property owner on the ocean front,
of the advisability of establishing free parking
space on the beach. Mr. Day said he objected to
free parking, as it might attract an undesirable
element to Balboa, but that when the commission
had formulated a plan, he would be glad to consider
it and cooperate in any way.
The Custodian of the Grammar School called the
attention of the commission to the congestion of
' traffic around the school building and suggested
crossings over the P.E. right of way at the school
streets:`
Mr. Kaiser spoke about the owners of large
boats buying their supplies in other cities and
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having them delivered at his landings because of
no adequate docks where boats may be tied.-up for
loading elsewhere.
?r. Thompson expressed the opinion that all
classes make up a city and the more accommodations
you give the more people you get. Every city has
its "diseased area" and we cannot hope to keep
our city entirely free from the undesirable ele-
ment.
Mr. Hopkins mentioned. tle deterioration of
Redondo and. Venice as an example of what happens
when the undesirable element is allowed to gain .
control and which we must not allow here in
Newport.
Mr. Sampson said that congestion had been the
cause of this deterioration.
Chairman Hopkins extended an invitation to all
who were in attendance and any others interested,
to attend the special meeting to be held December
22, at which time Per. Tilton will be present to
discuss the Traffic Report with the Commission.
ADJOURNMENT
On motion of Patterson, seconded by Schnitker
the meeting adjourned to meet at 7;30 P.P.,
December 22, 1937, in the City Council Chambers.
Respectfully submitted,
'/W�Zl'
HOWARD W. SEAGE SECRETARY
COPY
TO The City Planning Commission
Gentlemen:
• The Balboa Business and Property owners
Association represents at least 950 of the operat-
ing businesses of Balboa and over 90% of the pro-
perty owners in that district.
The Balboa Business and Property owners res-
pectfully request that you give serious thought
and consideration to additional parking facilities
needed in the Balboa business district. The problem
of additional parkingspace has so confused some
people that they seriously believe it to.be an issue
of Honky -tonk or not Honky -tonk. This is a gross
missunderstanding. %,'e need :parking facilities in
the Balboa district whichever way our community
may grow.
The Balboa business district has been created
and zoned for business. Taxes have been assessed
accordingly, and rents in proportion, - Depending
mainly on the tourist trade our district has had
an uphill struggle. Vacancies are becoming more
numerous and rents harder to collect, but taxes
must be paid.
• Some relief for this situation can be had by
permitting additional parking facilities. 'Ne are
situated on the narrowest part of this narrow pen
ninsula, with hardly street space or parking.faei-
lities to take care of our permanent summer citizens;
leaving; no room for visitors or tourists.
Some people are of the opinion that we do not
need visitors or tourists, and that they would
come under the honky -tonk class. They also think
that the only kind of business district Balboa need-
s is the kind of business that is supported by our
residential district. In making a careful check
we find there is only one or two businesses in
Balboa that could possibly survive by depending
on our residential district for their support.
In other words, Balboa depends nearly entirely on
the tourists and visitors.
Some people say we are only interested in mak-
ing a high class residential and yachting community
of our harbor distract. We do not want to inter-
fere with t'nis thought and are anxious to make our
harbor district as high class as possible. But we
• do believe a section of our community could be set
aside for the receiving of tourist and visitors *ith-
out interfering with a high class residential com-
munity. The Balboa business district has played
the .art of host and hostess to these visitors. If
we invite them- t'nrou?h our chamber of Co.,rrerce,
or adver5isments, -- to come mere, surely we must
have some place for them to stop. It is natural
for visitors to come to the business district for
information and knowledge regarding our harbor
• district. But we find we have :-.o room for these .
people. V,,e see them turn around in our crowded
streets and drive out of town again. Some of these
people could perhaps be the ones that we want in
making up our residential district; but we give;
them no chance.
The only ones that really can appreciate the
need for more parkin in this district are the
ones that are actually in business here. Vile have
a whole block between "A" st. and "B" St. with no
alleys and not a single garage. This block is
built nearly solid with apartments, courts, and
residences. V!hen these places are all occupied
during the summer months, they naturally park their
cars as close to where they reside as possible,
which is in the business district and adjotting.
?,lost employees and employers drive cars to work
in this district. All do not park in garages or
on lots. Fishermen that either rent rowboats and
fish in the bay, or go out on ocean trips, or fish
off the pier all park as close to Mmain St. as
. possible. Our yacht owners and their friends with
boats in the turrIng basin park as near as possible.
Trucks and ,.•eliveries must have consideration, all
in the business district. Vlhere, then on our few
narrow streets can we find places for anyone else?
Is it any wonder that we in the business district
are looking for relief in parking facilities?
The Balboa Business lien have studied this sit
uation carefully. They have decided that if a
narking area is created for three blocks on the
ocean front, west of the pier, all day parking could
be permitted there, and leaving the streets in the
business district to be zoned for limited parking
only. This would give the merchants an opportunity
to take care of their customers. i'r'e also found
that this location would Le the cheapest and agree-
able with the adjacent property owners. The property
to be used being privately owned (and not city
property) but would be deeded to the cite* for such
purposes. The expense for such a parking has been
estimated at approximately 020,000. The property
to be deeded the city would be valued at approximate
• ly $10,000. Some %7 ',000 have been spent at Newport
for parking. By giving Balboa the same amount of
credit for this purpose, it would leave a differ-
ence of approximately ;',;3,000 to be spent for this
most useful need.
This retort is intended for the purpose of
inlightening anyone interested, and your planning
board, for the real need of more parking facilities
and not as to "shall we go honky -tonk or not honky-
tonk."
It may be well to state at this time that we
do believe that clean, decent entertainment is
injoyed by all and that such should not necessarily
be termed "honky- tonk ". By proper city ordinances
and their enforcement it would go a long way towards
making Balboa a place to be proud of and a benefit
to our whole Harbor district.
The "Honky -tonk" is a big »roblem and needs
a lot of consideration and. defining. Our problem
is at this time more narking and we hope this
Planning Board will give us consideration when lay-
ing out your h_aster Plan.
(Submitted by P-r. Fred Story)
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