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CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
DRAFT Planning Commission Minutes
• November 2, 2006
Regular Meeting - 6:30 p.m.
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INDEX
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Eaton, Hawkins, Cole, Toerge, Peotter, McDaniel and Henn
STAFF PRESENT:
Patricia Temple, Planning Director
Aaron Harp, Assistant City Attorney
Tony Brine, Principal Civil Engineer
Jim Campbell, Senior Planner
Rosalinh Ung, Associate Planner
Jaime Murillo, Associate Planner
Brandon Nichols, Assistant Planner
Marina Marrelli, Assistant Planner
aylene Olson, Department Assistant
PUBLIC COMMENTS: Ms. Temple spoke on the Award of Merit the City's local
PUBLIC
coastal program, Coastal Land Use Plan, received. It is State wide award from the
COMMENTS
California chapter of the American Planning Association and it was for the small
jurisdiction comprehensive planning. We were one of two agencies to receive this
ward. It is the first time the City has been invited to submit a project for a State
e award.
OSTING OF THE AGENDA:
POSTING OF
THE AGENDA
he Planning Commission Agenda was posted on October 27, 2006.
CONSENT CALENDAR
ITEM NO. 1
SUBJECT: MINUTES of the regular meeting of October 19, 2006.
Approved
Commissioner Toerge made corrections.
Ayes:
Eaton, Peotter, Hawkins, Cole, McDaniel, and Toerge
Noes:
None
Abstain:
Henn
ITEM NO.2
OBJECT: Newport Bay Marina (PA2001 -210)
2300 Newport Boulevard
Continued to
November 16,
Site Plan Review, Use Permit, Modification Permit and Vesting Tentative Tract
2006
p to allow the construction of a mixed -use development on a 2.4 acre site
ated north of the intersection of Newport Boulevard and Balboa Boulevard. The
ject consists of the demolition of all structures on site and the construction of
lubterranean
proximately 36,000 square feet of commercial uses and 27 dwelling unit
ndominiums). Eleven three -story buildings are planned to be built over a
parking garage. The reconstruction /reconfiguration of the existing
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bulkhead, boatways and docks is also planned. The Site Plan Review application
would authorize the entire project and the Vesting Tentative Tract map would
permit a subdivision map to allow for the residential units to be individually sold.
The Use Permit would establish a building height limit of up to 35 feet and the
Modification Permit would allow portions of the proposed buildings to encroach
within the 5 -foot front yard setback. Finally, consideration of a Draft Environmental
Impact Report (SCH# 2003071144) including mitigation measures.
Staff requests to continue this item to November 16, 2006.
Motion was made by Commissioner Peotter to approve the consent calendar as
modified.
Ayes:
Eaton, Peotter, Hawkins, Cole, McDaniel, and Toerge
Noes:
None
Abstain:
Henn.
HEARING ITEMS
SUBJECT , Holiday Inn Express (PA2006 -182)
ITEM NO. 3
2300 West Coast Highway
e applicant requests the approval of a 19 room expansion of a 64 room existing
Approved
motel. The two -story addition is fully compliant with applicable standards and will
be located at the rear of the existing two -story motel building.
Commissioner Henn stated he had not had time to adequately study the record
from the last meeting and therefore would be abstaining from discussion and
voting on this item.
Marina Marrelli, Assistant Planner, gave an overview on the updated staff repo
noting the following:
• The addition to the last staff report is a more thorough examination of ho
this project could comply with the Design Framework.
• Additional language regarding the out between the subject property and the
parking lot.
• A proposal for additional screening of the roof equipment.
Ms. Temple expanded on the item relating to the condition regarding the
easements and the possible future connection through the parking lot. Staff had
proposed the following language they felt was consistent with the Planning
Commission's direction from the last meeting:
. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, the property owner shall execute
and record an irrevocable offer of dedication, approved by the Office of the
City Attorney, granting the City an easement for ingress, egress and
access, over, upon and across the portion of the propert6y as general)
depicted in Site Plan Exhibit 1 dated November 2, 2006 and attached
herein. Upon refinement of the attached Site Plan Exhibit 1 any parking
required to be removed shall be allowed to be replaced by the removal o
on -site landscaping.
Staff still had questions, as a result, the City Attorney's office has prepared som
tricter language for the Planning Commission's consideration:
. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, the property owner shall execut
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and record an irrevocable offer of dedication, approved by the Office of
City Attorney, granting the City an easement for ingress, egress and acc(
over, upon and across the portion of the properly described in Exhibit A
depicted on Exhibit B. (Exhibits to be provided separately)
Temple said that it was the choice of the Planning Commission, Staff
ifortable with either of them. A copy of the above language was handed out
meeting.
ice White, from Government Solutions and on behalf of the applicant, gave
rerPoint presentation noting some revisions and modifications to the play
ad on the comments and suggestions from the last meeting on the followir
(5) key points:
Landscaping - UP No. 2006 -019 Conditions:
• Condition 24 -
■ Prior to obtaining final occupancy,
palm trees within the planting area
West Coast Highway....
• Condition 25-
there shall be a total of
adjacent to the sidewalk r
■ Prior to obtaining final occupancy, there shall be a con
30 -inch tall hedge adjacent to the sidewalk on West
Highway.....
Condition 27-
■ Prior to obtaining final occupancy, the two utility fixtures
abut West Coast Highway shall be screened from view
landscaping.
o Prior approval - UP 2001 -044 had two conditions that covered al
three of these items.
■ Condition 6-
• Prior to the issuance of a certificate of occupancy ... c
additional Mexican Fan palm shall be planted...
• Prior to the issuance of a certificate of occupancy,
continuous hedge.... shall be installed along the along t
front of the property ....
Condition 8-
■ Prior to the issuance of a final certificate of occupancy
screening plants shall be installed... to achieve ful
screening of the electrical cabinet...
o Ms. White said they felt by upholding conditions 6 and 8 this woudc
allow for portions of landscaping improvements along West Coas
Highway frontage to be completed sooner. If we upheld condition:
24, 25 and 27 there would be a delay.
5-sided architecture - roof plan and screening
o Roof Conditions- requested the following changes-
* 35. - The roof shall be painted a neutral, non - reflective color
approved by the PI_anningDirector prior
to the issuance of a certificate of &4e4 a certificate of occupancy.
■ 36. - " 98Feen wall sh
screen
and r,
height limit.
■ 37. - On th
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se that the equipment skall 6e me higheF thaR the exiefiHo
All rooftop equipment shall be painted to match the
roof prior to the issuance of a certificate of fi%4 occupancy.
• Parkin -
o Ms. White went over the occupancy rates from the last meeting.
• Project meets City code.
• Typical Guest-
• Weekday
■ Business /corporate stay 2.5 nights
■ Arrive via rental car or airport shuttle (no car)
• Weekend
■ Leisure travelers (primarily couples) stay 2 nights
■ Arrive in 1 car
• In the evening, when typically everyone is in their rooms, there
is one staff person on duty.
• Consistency with Mariner's Mile_Specifc_Plan and Strategic Vision and
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Design Framework - signage
o Language from Strategic Vision and Design Framework -
■ Single- business monument signs-
* 4.21: Signs should be limited to those identifying
businesses
■ 4.6: Ground - mounted single- tenant monument signs shat
be allowed.
o They went out and measured the existing sign and compared the
measurements to Newport Zoning code 20.67.030 - Pemanent Signs
Commercial and Industrial Districts
• Site frontage minimum 50 feet; they have 132 feet.
• Number of signs permitted - one; they have one.
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• Area of sign not to exceed 200 square feet; their sign is 49
square feet.
• Height not to exceed 25 feet; their sign is 7 feet.
Chairman Cole if the existing sign was permitted.
Ms. White answered no, and there is a condition that a permit be applied for and
he Staff feels that the sign does comply. Ms. White continued with he
presentation:
• They feel the project complies with requirements of the Specific Plan.
• Architecture-
Existing rooftop equipment will be screened and entire roo
painted.
• Landscape-
■ Complies with requirements and standards.
• Lighting-
Zero light spill from site.
• Offer of dedication for easement -
o Rough calculation shows that three spaces will be lost if the easemen
occurs. .
• These spaces can be made up with the loss of landscaping.
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• It would represent about a 485 square foot loss of landscaping
and still park the property to code.
• This would not absolve them needing to meet the number o
trees, etc. required.
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ommissioner Eaton asked if the applicant was acceptable with both of the two
iguage proposals on the offer of dedication by Staff and the City Attorney
ice.
o. White answered that the first one was the applicant's language and the
Terence between the two proposals is they have one last sentence, which the
;fer, that is an acknowledgement that parking will be replaced by the loss of on
landscaping. So, they would prefer the first one.
mmissioner Eaton then asked Assistant City Attorney Aaron Harp if the added
iguage was acceptable to the City.
r. Harp said they would prefer to go with the language recommended by the City
omey's office, with maybe the acknowledgement that the parking would be
)laced with landscaping.
Harp then asked Ms. White how wide the proposed easement would be.
>. White said they weren't sure what the Public Works Department would
quire, but what will fit, given the drive aisle, is 26 feet.
s. Temple added that there hadn't been a final determination by the Public
arks Department, but in preliminary discussions the Public Works Director he
s indicated 32 feet would be required in order to provide a regular private street
mdard. That is not a final determination. Also on the added language
Guested by the applicant on the easement language, that technically no
mplying with the landscaping standard would require the Planning Commission
consider an approval of variance and we have not noticed a variance.
Harp then said the important issue is this is an irrevocable offer of dedication
d unless there is more analysis done in the future, nothing is going to happen
th it and they will be in conformance until the City Council decides to accept the
er of dedication. At that time it would put the applicant into a non- conformin
uation. Perhaps dealing with the landscaping issue could be put off to a late
te.
>mmissioner McDaniel spoke on a letter, in the staff report, that had been
,eived from a Mrs. Bauer MD which indicates she is against this project an
rated some clarification on the following:
. Big rigs parking in the motel's parking lot.
>. White responded that big rigs are not permitted in the lot. They are noil
owed by the motel.
iairman Cole asked if there was a condition prohibiting big rigs from parking in
lot.
a. White answered no condition. This motel does not get trucker business.
)mmissioner Hawkins asked what the time frame would be on the frontage
dscaping improvements and the parking lot landscaping.
>. White said they are proposing to do the conditions, regarding the landscaping
� frontage of West Coast Highway, that are tied to the existing approval that is in
ancheck. Visibly this would be the most important component in terms of th
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reet frontage. So when that starts they would not get the certificate
:cupancy until the new tree, the hedge and the screening of the utility equipme
as completed. As far as the parking lot and due to the amount of constructi
id moving of equipment, they couldn't find a way to get that landscaping done.
condition was proposed where they could come up with a portion of the parki
t trees being placed in the forward portion, that is something the applicant cot
Hawkins said he thought the improvements to the front portion which is tied tc
certificate for current approval in plancheck was fine. His concern was witl
.rring the parking lot landscaping improvements until after the current proposal
would like to see a condition requiring some trees.
Temple added that the conditions in the 2002 Use Permit are the conditio
need to be complied with. She has some concerns on how you could about
pliance with those conditions to a later date. If this approval is granted
,n't mean it will be implemented.
nmissioner Hawkins questioned if the Staffs position is that the landscap
rovements, pursuant to the 2002 approval, would be installed and if there w
problems they would be taken care with the plancheck review and approval
current application.
Temple answered yes.
Hawkins asked if the applicant was okay with this.
White answered yes.
> ioner Peotter asked about the purpose of the hedge and why it
in 2002.
Temple said the hedge was a requirement of the Strategic Vision and Da
nework, adopted in 2000. The hedge and the trees in the front were the
that were adopted as code in the Mariner's Mile Specific Plan.
;ioner Peotter said this would cause their monument sign to be
it will be behind the hedge.
Campbell, Senior Planner, commented on this issue stating the Ian(
ework was adopted in 2000 and it had specific landscape standards
codified. The following meet those standards:
The hedge and palm row across the front of the property provides a
element of continuity across the entire district.
The landscaping in the parking lot which was required and codified.
Campbell did say the hedge would necessitate a larger sign for visibi
oses and would cut done on the open space, but it is a mandatory item
Hawkins asked:
If the applicant was happy with the proposed language of the offer
dedication that they had proposed and that this was their offer.
If they had proposed, at one time, some connection with the municipal
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but currently it is not in their current proposal.
White answered yes to the first question. She said the second question we!
:ct, but it was as if they proposed a good deed and now are being punished.
/ are happy with the language and would like to have an acknowledgemen
if the parking is to be replaced on -site that it will be at the loss of landscaping.
. Harp stated the real issue is if the irrevocable offer of dedication is requi
i it is approved, then the applicant would be in a non - conforming use. TI
uld basically have less parking than the code currently requires. If things
ve forward, he felt some type of arrangement could be made with the munici
for adequate parking.
r. Hawkins asked if, with the City's Attorney's approval, that one of the items
e condition would have language that the applicant would not be prejudiced
is offer.
Harp said yes they would take care of that.
missioner McDaniel said he wouldn't need this requirement to move
an approval. His concern would be the parking now and in the future.
sioner Toerge asked Ms. White about the three conditions for ct
in her presentation and these conditions were not in the staff report.
White said they are in the last page of the resolution.
Marrelli said she had emailed the revised resolution on Tuesday, October 31
comment was opened.
comment was closed.
i Cole asked if the three proposed suggested changes were the
to the conditions that they now have in their packets.
White answered yes.
mer Hawkins clarified they were speaking of the emailed version of
changes.
nmissioner Toerge asked if the cut sheet in the plans that were presented
slides tonight are going to part of the record and wanted to make sure this %
t of the condition.
Temple said all materials presented at this meeting are part of the publ
•d and copies of the presentation are also received from the applicant. M
pie suggested making the changes presented tonight as part of the motion.
airman Cole clarified that the slide depicting condition number 36 also ref!
Bally, the graphic they are talking about. He wanted clarification that there
existing well that the equipment was being moved to.
White said yes, it is hard to see in the graphic.
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iairman Cole said the landscaping issues have been addressed adequate)
light, the roof plan presented will be part of the record, and the parking has
en shown to be in compliance. He asked the Staff if the signage was in
mpliance with the Mariner's Mile Strategic Plan, even if it wasn't permanent
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>. Marrelli answered yes.
ere was some general discussion on the sign and it's increased size with the
dge blocking it. It was also discussed if there could be a condition made tonight
keep the sign from being 200 square feet and 25 feet tall.
>. Temple said if it is consistent with the code they will get a permit. If it's in the
de, it shouldn't be conditioned with a use permit. The specifics in the Mariner's
le Design Framework have been taken out and are now the City's code city
de.
iairman Cole continued with the offer of dedication and the language appears to
ve been accepted, with the City Attorney agreeing to add the language from the
plicant.
)mmissioner Peotter wanted clarification, that we did not currently have a policy
anything codified requiring this.
>. Temple answered that was correct.
)mmissioner Peotter then asked that there was no nexus requiring this.
•. Harp said it could be argued that there is a nexus requiring it. They are adding
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ditional units to this motel, which will increase traffic and put a burden on Coast
ghway which could be a nexus.
)mmissioner Peotter continued that they are just building out their site, not over
ilding their site, which should not require additional circulation.
�. Temple said they are exercising one provision of the code to allow them to
ve greater than the base floor area ratio limit of .5 up to their proposal of .7,
rich is in the use permit request to allow a higher amount of square feet.
•. Harp pointed out the nexus analysis is irrelevant because they are voluntarily
reeing to this offer of dedication. It is in their interest also to have access in the
ck.
)mmissioner Peotter said that it didn't matter and condition number 19, as is,
is fine with him.
)mmissioner Hawkins does not support condition number 19 and thinks there
ould be something stronger and something fixed.
)mmissioner Eaton just wanted to reiterate what he stated last week, in that
od planning for the circulation on Coast Highway, and this area in particular, in
�viding access through the back is critical.
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iairman Cole agreed that we should keep the language that the City Attorne
s proposed with the amendment.
Harp said he may need to change some of the language if the Commission'
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irection is to obtain the easement, but to insure that the applicant is not prejudic
by granting the easement. Instead of an irrevocable offer of dedication, he ma
have them execute an easement and not have us record it subject to a vanan
ter on. This would all be based upon the City Council approval.
general discussion there was a consensus to record an irrevocable offer
ation as long as the applicant is not prejudiced.
Motion was made by Commissioner McDaniel to approve Development Plan No.
006 -001 (PA2006 -182) with all of the changes and directions that we have been
given this evening.
Staff and Commission clarified the motion as follows:
• The suggested roof condition changes on numbers 35,36, and 37.
• Include the exhibits from tonight's presentation by the applicant.
• Delete condition number 19 and replaced with the City Attorney's proposed
language on the offer of dedication, received by email, and modified not to
prejudice the applicant.
Commissioner McDaniel was in agreement.
Ayes: Eaton, Peotter, Hawkins, Cole, McDaniel, and Toerge
Noes: None
Abstain: Henn
SUBJECT: Planning Director's Use Permit No. 2006 -021 (PA2006 -193) JITEM NO. 4
;al of the Planning Director's approval of a Use Permit for a medical /d(
e use. The request is to allow the utilization of an approximately 2,625 sq
office area for medical /dental office use within an existing 10,500 square
building complex.
Ung, Associate Planner, gave an overview on the staff report noting
• To allow the operation of a medical office use within an existing of
building complex.
• The subject property is zoned as Professional and Administrative Of
District of the Santa Ana Heights Specific Plan.
• The subject property has an existing legal non - conforming dental of
approved by the County of Orange prior to the City's annexation in 2001.
• An appeal was filed by the Santa Ana Heights Project Advisory Commil
with issues focus on whether medical /dental uses are allowed in the
District and the on -site parking requirement for the medicalldental uses.
• The Director's interpretation is that medical or dental office uses
permitted in the PA Zone.
• Medical /dental office uses are traditionally considered as professic
business office uses, however there are different parking requirements
medical /dental uses since the parking demand for the medical use is slig
higher than the general office use.
• The proposed project requires a net increase of 3 additional parking spa
and the applicant is providing the required number of parking spaces by
stripping the parking lot.
• The project meets the criteria set forth in the Non - Conforming Parts
Section of the Code.
• Staff recommends denial of the appeal and to uphold and affirm the deci:
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of the Planning Director and approve the Use Permit application. However,
during the review of the application the Planning Commission could deny the
application if findings could not be made for the Use Permit application.
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blic comments opened.
;g Carol, resident of Santa Ana Heights and vice -chair of the Project Advisory
mmittee, and they are objecting to the Use Permit application with the following
ues:
• More trips generated.
• Increased traffic problem for the residential area.
airman Cole asked Mr. Carol if he had any estimate on the increased trips.
. Carol said it was based on the number of chairs and type of dental patient
J procedures and didn't have a number.
n Stokes, PAC member of Santa Ana Heights, had concerns with the bio
zards coming from medical /dental offices.
all Saunders, project architect, introduced himself and Dr. David Wilhelm,
plicant. Dr. Wilhelm answered the question regarding the number o
pointments as follows:
• Presently has an office in Huntington Beach.
• Runs a fee - for - service private practice.
• Averages 6 patients per day
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• Procedures vary; full mouth reconstruction and cosmetic cases.
• 2 hygienists that see an average of 5.5 patients per day. The hygienists are
scheduled for 8 hours a day but because of the age of the patients, the
appointments tend to be longer.
• Number of chairs - 2 for the hygienist and 3 that Dr. Wilhelm works out of.
Wilhelm felt the amount of traffic generated from his practice would be
gligible.
airman Cole asked about the number of patients seen in an 8 hours day and
s that 5 patients per hygienists.
Wilhelm answered approximately 5.5 patients per hygienists and that is based
his patients being older and being treated for periodontal disease and care.
airman Cole asked so that would make 10 to 12 hygienists patients per day
is the patients seen by Dr. Wilhelm, which is on a average of 6 or less patients
r day, making an average total per day of 15 to 17.
Wilhelm said that was correct.
airman Cole then asked there would be 2 hygienists, 1 receptionist plus Dr.
(helm also on the premises.
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Wilhelm answered yes.
mmissioner McDaniel asked if there would be any other doctors in the practice.
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Wilhelm answered there would be no other doctors.
nmissioner McDaniel asked the Staff, since we annexed this area from the
mty, if this was a new application and not from the County, and we accepted
because it was already established.
Ung answered that was correct.
)lic comment closed.
nmissioner Hawkins expressed his following concerns:
• Medical /Dental Uses in the PA Zone -
o The Staff believes medical /dental uses are permitted uses in the P
Zane under Professional and Administrative Offices- according to
section 20.44.055 of the Zoning Code. He understood the board
interpretation from Staff.
• Referring to the Zoning Code, Business Park District, Section
20.44.050 B.1 - specifically refers to medical and dental offices and
that is the district under which these uses are allowed.
• PA Zone - Prohibited uses are all uses not listed in this section as
permitted.
• One section discusses medical /dental as a permitted use and it is no
delineated in the current zoning district, Section 20.44.055, therefor
doesn't think the use is permitted.
• On -site Parking Requirement-
• The Staff recognizes that parking could become a concern, but didn'
recommend denial of the use permit do to the fact that there would be
45 total parking spaces and the site accommodates a sufficient variety
of uses such that there would not be a likely overlap in parking
demand.
• He didn't think there is a variety of uses; 50 percent is professional
office and 50 percent is dental. There is a commonality and common
demand.
• The permitted use in this area is 100 percent o
professional /administrative offices.
• There will be some parking problems.
nmissioner Peotter asked the Staff:
• What is the parking requirement for medical; 1 per 150 or 1 per 200
• Are the 8.5 stalls for long -term staff stalls or general purpose stalls.
• The existing medical was approved at 1 per 250, so it is non - conforming use
as it stands and do we have the latitude to require them to fix this before we
extend a new use.
• If this is a discretionary approval, why can't we require them to bring an
existing non - conforming use into conformance before granting a new use.
Ung answered the parking requirement is 1 per 200 and is City wide. She
answered yes that it is a existing non - conforming use as it stands today an
ording to the non - conforming section of the parking requirement we do no
e the latitude to require them to fix it. This is a discretionary approval.
Brine answered that the 8.5 is the standard size parking stall.
Harp answered the questioned on bringing the existing non - conforming usel
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ito conformance stating the code section provides how much parking is required
it the applicant to provide and there is no discretion in that regard, however the
re seeking a use permit which is discretionary.
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:ommissioner Henn asked if the existing non - conforming parking situation is with
different owner and if so, how can we apply a restriction to that in conjunction
ith this application.
Is. Temple said that these buildings have had four separate condominium
wnerships. It is difficult to impose conditions on other owners that are not part o
its application.
:ommissioner Henn asked if they share parking in common.
Is. Temple answered yes.
ommissioner Henn then asked do we have a mechanism to impose restriction
n parking that is available to the other condominium owners.
Ir. Harp said no we cannot impose parking restrictions on the other owners since
iey are not part of this application.
:ommissioner Henn then asked if the parking requirement consideration is
xclusively on this application.
Is. Temple answered yes.
:ommissioner Henn asked:
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• What is the traffic generation associated with general office compared to
medical office.
• That comparison would set the traffic differential to be considered.
ony Brine answered:
• General office daily trip rate is 14 trips per 1000 square foot
• Medical office daily trip rate is 50 trips per 1000 square foot.
ommissioner Henn then asked that traffic model indicates that the medical office
ip rate is significantly higher.
Is. Temple responded that the trips rate used for modeling and other traffic
nalysis purposes are based on averages that are tested in the field via drive poin
punts. That number takes into account all the broad range of medical offices,
,hich are varied in type and generate traffic at different rates, i.e. the pediatrician
iat may have an enormous amount of visitation is evaluated the same as the
ardiologist who may have less visitation than a regular doctor.
:ommissioner Peotter asked what has the applicant shown that he has the legal
ghts to the additional parking spaces he is proposing.
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Is. Ung asked for time to check the file for recorded or reciprocal parking
greement.
;hairman Cole asked if the Traffic Engineer had an answer to this and then
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out the following:
The City parking code for general office versa medical office has
difference of 4 per 1000 or 1 for 250 versa 5 per 1000 or 1 for 200, which
a 25 percent increase.
The trips generated by a medical office are almost 4 times that of a genes
office.
Brine said that is accurate, there is more turn over with the higher level
generated.
Ung said there is no copy of a reciprocal access agreement, however as
the County building permit, each of the buildings were built with
lerstanding that they have to provide a fare share of parking and that is
sally per each building. Each building has two separate oondomii
Peotter asked if
• That means we are going from 41 spaces to 45.
• Does each of the condo units get one of the extra 4 spaces being created.
• Dr. Wilhelm will not be getting 3.
Ung was not aware of the arrangement and perhaps we should question
missioner Peotter then asked if the City should be concerned if the appli
legally provide the spaces and ownership of those spaces as part of
Ung answered yes.
Cole wanted clarification on the following:
The Staff believes, per the code, that the applicant can re -stripe the exi;
parking lot, increasing the over all parking spaces from 41 to 45 and
would allow them to meet the code requirement for this use, which regi
an additional 3 spaces.
Ung answered that is correct.
imissioner Hawkins said that he thought the actual code requirement as i
t now is 42 and they are encroaching with the trash enclosure on one space.
applicant is proposing to add another 3 spaces.
Ung said that was correct.
Harp added that the important issue is it this is a shared parking
does the applicant have the legal right to re- stripe the lot to
tional 3 spaces. He then asked the applicant to respond to this.
Wilhelm said there is a condo association, which he is part of, and they he
a meeting regarding re- stripping and restructuring the parking lot
ommodate the necessary parking spaces to meet code and everyone was
:ement. Regarding the traffic, his normal office hours are Tuesday throu
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ursday, 7am to 4pm and half -a -day on Friday, which is approximately three and
9-half days a week.
airman Cole asked the Staff if the re- stripping issue needs to be conditio
cause of the condominium situation.
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Harp didn't think it needed to be conditioned but just wanted to verify the had
right to comply with this.
mmissioner Peotter said he thought it should be conditioned that the applicant
s to verify they have the association's approval on their ownership of the 3 extra
aces.
Harp said it wasn't an ownership but a right to use the overall spaces.
mmissioner Peotter said he had been involved in condo associations recently,
d ownership of parking is an important issue. Usually modern methods actual)
sign the number of spaces per unit. Their CC &R's may have some flexibility to
sign them.
Harp said these are valid points and since we do not know how they are
signed maybe we should condition it.
iairman Cole asked Staff if it should be conditioned before issuing a permit or
.t be conditioned as part of the use permit.
;. Temple said some written verification of the right to change the parking lot and
e of it would be appropriate which would need an added condition.
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mmissioner Hawkins said Commissioner Peotter raised a good point and
ered the following:
• He was not concerned with Dr. Wilhelm, his patients or his staff encroaching
on other's parking.
• That we are requiring Dr. Wilhelm to create 3 additional parking spaces and
there is no guarantee that parking spaces won't be used by others.
• Doesn't believe this is a permitted use.
• Doesn't believe the parking issue is adequately addressed and there is not
diversity of uses as the Staff indicates.
iairman Cole addressed the following in the staff report regarding the code and
luirement:
• Assuming the applicant can re- stripe the additional 3 spaces for a total of 4
spaces, this would meet the current parking requirement that the City
requires.
s. Temple answered yes.
iairman Cole then asked what is the discretionary reasons why we wouldn't
aw that and if Commissioner Hawkins was concerned that the spaces wouldn'
used as permitted.
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at spaces not be posted for specific users so all the parking would be available
everyone. We normally do not get involved in arrangements regarding posted
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,nmissioner McDaniel if we approve this medical use could this office be
anything other than dental, i.e. a regular doctor could move in if sold.
Temple said yes, any type of doctor could move in
nmissioner Toerge had the following concerns:
• The use permit runs with the land.
• If the property is sold in the future the new owner may use it differently.
could be opened 7 days a week and/or there could be shorter ter
appointments.
• Land use decision needs to be made on this.
• More discussion from the Staff on this use being permitted.
• PA zoning is not medical.
• Parking ratio is some what significant, but the trip generation is ve
significant.
• Are we, suggesting that our traffic models and street designs wou
adequately allow medical use in all PA Zones when medical traffic is thre
times as much as office.
Temple responded as follows:
• The Newport Beach Zoning Code, while it does have a sub - category c
medical office in the use classification of professional and business office:
has always allowed medical offices in every district where professional an
business offices are used.
• In fact, there is only one zone district in the whole City where we actuall,
call -out medical offices as a separate use with special requirements and the
is the M-1 -A District or Industrial District.
• To follow that line of reasoning would mean medical offices are prohibited ii
every commercial district in the City, other than perhaps some planner
communities where they may be called -out separately.
• Mostly they are lumped together under the broad category of professione
and business offices and that was one of the rationales used to determine
whether is was considered a permitted use or not.
• The BP District in the Specific Plan does call -out medical offices as a distinc
category.
• Under the County Specific Plan, it was done because they had a desire ii
placing a specific limitation beyond the normal for medical offices in the
particular district. It was based on the size of the medical office, limitirn
them to no more than 4000 square feet.
• When the City adopted the Specific Plan we did try to emulate the Count
Specific Plan as closely as possible, but it was not emulated 100 percent.
One of the provisions that was deleted was the limitation of the 4000 squan
feet in the BP District.
• We felt there was good justification to support the argument that medics
offices are allowed in the PA District.
• In speaking with the County, if that decision where applied county wide
medical offices would virtually not be allowed in any commercial zone in thE
County. We didn't think that was a practical intent of those provisions of thE
Specific Plan.
• Like in our M-1 -A District, the reason why we call it out separately is we asl
for a use permit in that district only. Otherwise they are considere(
expressed permitted uses and that would be in retail commercial
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administrative /professional commercial, and recreational and
commercial.
. We were being consistent in applying our standard application practices
standards to the Specific Plan and believe they are permitted use purs
to the Specific Plan.
) mmissooner Henn said the staff report says this application is subject to
ecific plan. Each zone district indicates that uses not listed are prohibited. TI
a specific plan and not a general zoning situation. He then asked the Staff
irify how this use is permitted.
Temple stated she didn't have anything to add. She didn't think this sped
i had any use classifications. In the PA Zone in the County Zoning Co(
lical office were not prohibited. The is no use classification in the Cow
ing Code for medical offices. Therefore the code is being applied in
sistent and equitable manner. If the Commission disagrees, that's what th
here for.
nmissioner Toerge said it was hard for him to make a judgment that this use
ropriate in a PA Zone, given our codes list the professional /administrative us
medical uses as two distinctive and separate uses. Medical /dental offices
in the PA Zone.
irman Cole wanted to know if medical /dental uses were permitted in other W
)s in the City.
Temple said this is the only place where that terminology is used. As Mr
> had pointed out, there are medical offices in the professional /administrative
that were approved by the County and we also used that as an indicator tha
the reading of the code and the intent of the County.
missioner Hawkins asked if it was the City's intent, when it adopted the Sante
Heights into the Zoning Code, that the regulations as they relate to medical
intended to be administered as City wide.
Temple answered yes.
on was made by Commissioner McDaniel to uphold the appeal and deny
Permit.
issioner Hawkins encouraged Dr. Wilhelm to appeal this to the City Council.
issioner Eaton said this was a close call for him and wanted to point out
The purpose and intent of the BP District -
o Specifically allows medical and dental offices.
• Allow the maintenance of professional /administrative
commercial uses, etc.
The purpose and intent of the PA District -
o The maintenance of an optimal environment for moderate
professional /administrative office uses.
This possibly suggests that they may have intended to be
different environment in terms of level of intensity.
The traffic model indicates that medical offices are a high
intensity.
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Conceivably the County was deliberate in not allowing medi
offices in the PA Zone, because the zone was intended
accommodate moderate intensity.
The parking was a concern in that we didn't use this opportunity to
the existing non - conformity on the parking and we didn't have any dis
on parking.
Wilhelm asked for a continuation.
rle said a continuation would only be helpful if the applicant
information that might further support his position.
Dr. Wilhelm was then told to get with Ms. Ung for directions on how to file an
aapeal with the Citv Council.
Ayes: Eaton, Peotter, Hawkins, Cole, McDaniel, Toerge and Henn
Noes: None
Abstain: None
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ITEM NO. 5
SUBJECT: Thirty First Street, LLC (PA2006 -031) -
407, 409, 411 & 413 31 st Street
Permit to establish a height limit of 31 -feet, exceeding the base height limit
:et, for the construction of four mixed -use buildings and approval of
nercial floor area ratio (FAR) less than the minimum 0.25 FAR required
d use development projects. In addition, the applicant is requesting t
oval of a modification permit to allow parking spaces to encroach within t
and rear setbacks and a lot line adjustment to adjust the interior prope
of four lots into four equally sized parcels.
Murillo, Associate Planner, gave an overview on the staff report noting
• The Commission would not be able to take action on this item tonigh
because of the inadequately prepared Public Notice, but the Staff would like
to have a discussion and receive the Commission's comments.
• The proposed project involves the demolition an existing retail building an(
automobile repair facility, and redeveloping the site with 4 new mixed -use
buildings. With the exception of the architectural treatments, each buildinc
will be similarly designed and will consist of 750 square feet of commercia
space on the ground floor and a two -level residential unit above.
• Although mixed -use developments are consistent with General Plan an(
permitted uses with the Cannery Village Specific Plan, projec
implementation requires the approval of four discretionary applications
which include a use permit for increased height and reduced commercia
floor area, a modification permit for parking space encroachments into the
front and rear setbacks, and a lot line adjustment.
• A detailed review and analysis of each of the requests has been included it
the staff report. In summary, Staff believes sufficient facts to support the
findings for the requested increase in height and reduction in commercia
area are evident given the size and location of the lot, and design of the
project. The applicant has presented an attractive design that meets the
Cannery Village theme using a variety of architectural elements an(
complements the surrounding properties by providing attractive details an(
visual relief on all sides of the building.
• Staff believes 2 of the 3 required findings for approval of the modificatior
permit request can be made related to compatibility with the neighborhooc
Continued to
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and ensuring that the encroachments will not prove detrimental. However
Staff questions whether or not there are sufficient facts to support one of the
required findings and would like to engage the Commission into a discussior
to determine whether the justifications for the parking space encroachment:
are adequate.
Staff believes there is a fair argument to say that the lots are small in size
and therefore creates a practical difficulty in accommodating a viable
commercial and residential development permitted by code while providinc
the necessary parking. However, Staff also recognizes that there are other
design alternatives that could accommodate complying parking spaces, bu
is unsure whether or not that would result in a less successful oommercia
space, and therefore inconsistency with the purpose of the Cannery Village
Specific Plan.
Depending on the outcome and direction we receive, Staff will re- notice the
project and return with a draft resolution on November 16th.
Cole wanted clarification on what are the issues to be focused
Murillo said they would like -to focus most on the modification request, bu
Id also appreciate any comments from the Commission on any of the othe
mmendations from the Staff.
Temple said in the last part of the staff report was a discussion on land u
licts and this is another location where one of the units will overlook
mercial parking lot for a restaurant. There may be some design solutions tt
it assist in minimizing that possibility for conflict. Therefore, the Staff was
if the Commission would want to discuss this tonight.
nmissioner Hawkins questioned opening the hearing on this item since it
properly noticed and the possibility the public did not receive the notice.
s. Temple responded the Public Hearing was noticed on this item, it just left
ie aspect of the application, that related to the encroachment of the parl
)ace into the front yard setback. There isn't a problem with opening the hea
nce we are not going to take an action tonight.
Eaton had a couple of design related issues, first of which is:
• What does the Specific Plan allow?
• In the Mariner's Mile Specific Plan we have specific design criteria.
• This project is in the specialty retail part of the Specific Plan, which
described as the retail core. However, these units appear to have be(
designed with the retail as an after thought.
• In contrast to the Cannery Lofts, the entrance to the residential takes up
significant portion of the commercial frontage. There is no access to tl
commercial occupancy from the street.
• Can we address this issue in the Specific Plan, since the Specific Plan dog
not currently allow us to say this project is not designed to meet the intent.
Temple answered:
• The City's Zoning Code, in some areas, have intent and purposes.
• One of the weakness of the code,. in Staffs opinion, is it never follo
through enacting regulations that would address that intent and purpose.
• The actual regulations do not require things that were suggested, but
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include all of the same provisions that allow less commercial FAR through
certain permit approval processes.
• There is no criteria for what design feature might assist a core pedestrian
retail area. In fact the permitted land uses, compared to the other parts o
the Specific Plan, have little, if any, differences. It would be difficult to start
asking for project modifications that are consistent or consistent with the
procedures to allow exception in the Zoning Code, even if it is thought the
the project does not meet some of the intent and purpose.
• This is something that the Commission can take into consideration.
• These are residential units with enough commercial to satisfy the City'
requirement.
nmissioner Eaton then addressed the second part of his issue:
• The most westerly unit has it's balconies overlooking Rudy's parking lot,
which will end up with the same situation as the Newport Beach Brewing
Company.
• Do we have the ability to suggest to the applicant that we can not make the
findings as to compatibility- anless perhaps those units were reversed so-the
more blank wall was facing the alley, which would not have the balconies
overlooking the parking lot.
Temple said that if the Commission could not make the findings related to the
ipatibility to the neighborhood, they could ask for that change.
nmissioner Hawkins had some concerns:
• The compatibility issue was a concern.
• The project abuts the AI-Anon facility, which may have compatibility issues.
• Regarding the land use incompatibilities, he handed out a letter, in
connection with another project, from a firm of Jackson, DeMarco, Tidus,
and Peckenpaugh. This letter had items that could be considered,
including deed restrictions, conditions for release and covenant not to sue,
and other CC &R restrictions. He pointed out that Mr. Jackson stated the
likelihood that an owner of a unit in the residential project will make a claim
against the operator is significantly reduced. It doesn't eliminate it, but i
may effect it.
iirman Cole suggested starting with the land use conflict and get some
ction for Staff and asked the following
• This is a mixed -use project which is permitted under the General Plan, the
proposed General Plan and the Cannery Village Specific Plan.
• Was the Staff looking for direction on the perceived conflicts of land use with
the adjacency to restaurants and bars and other uses that might allow them
to redesign their project.
• Was the 8 -foot high wall that would be a buffer a proposal or suggestion
from the applicant?
• Has the real estate disclosure condition been suggested?
• Is the reversal of the floor plan of the buildings to face inward not something
the applicant is willing to consider because it s not achievable due to design
or cost reasons?
Murillo answered as follows:
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• The 8 -foot high wall is a feature that the applicant has proposed.
• The real estate disclosure condition has been suggested as well as the
of double -paned windows to help insulate noise.
• The applicant's preference is to maintain the design as proposed.
Wilson, the applicant, introduced himself along with Bill Guidero
A. Mr. Wilson made the following comments:
• He was aware of the issue pertaining to the Newport Beach Brewinc
Company and that it was a hot button, but thought there were some distinc
differences between the way the project faces towards Rudy's parking lot..
• They had reviewed the direction that the project faces and felt it was in the
best interest to face with the light and ventilation. That is why it is faced due
West.
• They have looked at the Newport Beach Brewing Company situation an(
have been involved with this situation.
• Felt there was a distinct difference between the Newport Beach Brewinc
Company which is a pub, and Rudy's which is more of a grill and a pub.
•- They have talked to Rudy's, and Sober Living- (the Newport Club) regardinc
different things and feel that everyone is following their intending uses an(
can all co- exist.
• Feel they have a great design. The elevation is key from Newpor
Boulevard. It could be changed but you would be looking at a blank wal
and pointed out what it would look like in the handouts.
• They have had a lot of practice since they have tenants and manage
properties in Cannery Village. They have 13 tenants in Cannery Village
which include lawyers, commercial artists, equipment companies, florist, anc
hair stylists.
• They are knowledgeable on what type of spaces people are looking for in
Cannery Village and what are commercial viable and successful.
• A big component of the other facilities was looking at what is the commercia
entrance and what is the residential entrance and felt that was important tc
encourage both the residential and the commercial aspect to co- mingle.
irman Cole thought the concerns of the Commission is the noise and rowd
uptive behavior from adjacent uses like this have been issues in the pas
re is a genuine concern that this will happen again with the approval of th
lication. He then asked what the was the different number of the bedrooms
units.
Wilson said 3 bedroom and 2 bath units.
Cole asked if the buyers would probably be young professionals,
Wilson said in the Cannery Loft most live and work in their units, so that wouk
bably be the same for this project. They will be holding the units and rentinc
m out. He believes the difference between this project and Cannery Lofts i,
t those lofts are looking down on the Brewery's parking lot and the entrance o
restaurant, which they are saying is a bar. Where as with this project they wil
looking at the backside of a 2 -story brick building and the parking lot would be
iosed to the outside decks, which should be a buffer. They are not expecting i
be quiet. Behind the project is the Newport Club and there will be some
igregation issue there also. He believes the type of cliental that will rents these
Is will understand what they will be looking at while standing on their balconies.
didn't see any change of renting out these units within the next 5 to 10 years.
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ommissioner Hawkins asked if Mr. Wilson had received a copy of the Jackson,
eMarco letter and encouraged him to read it over. Commissioner then asked
pt they are not seeking any subdivision and that these units are simply for rent.
r. Wilson answered correct. The only thing they are seeking is a lot line
ijustment. They purchased the lot -in -a -half next to the 3 original lots they have
id will be spreading the half lot equally among the 4 lots.
ommissioner Hawkins asked Mr. Wilson, in speaking with the Cannery Lofl
sidents if they had complained about noise from Rudy's.
r. Wilson got the impression from the them that their expectations after moving
were different from when they bought the units as residential. The issues with
e Brewery are a concern but didn't feel the issues will be the same at Rudy'
;cause there is not a front door that will be viewed from any of units. They have
ed to address this with some open areas in the 8 -foot wall going down the alley
de.
ommissioner Hawkins said that the Cannery Lofts residents had mentioned to
m that they are concerned with the Rudy's operation as well. He felt the cliental
this project will be similar to that of the Cannery Lofts and wasn't sure there was
way out of the compatibility issue.
ommissioner Eaton asked the following question:
. The staff report says you cannot connect the commercial and the residential
I to make them real live/work. Do the Cannery Lofts also not have a
connection between their downstairs commercial element and the
residential.
r. Wilson believed they were separate units.
s. Temple said the building code wouldn't permit it because of use separation
quirements.
ommissioner Eaton asked the following question:
. Asked if the reason for keeping the units on single lots was for the purpose
of being able to sell them in the future.
r. Wilson said yes, but initial intention is to hold them as rentals for an indefinite
sriod as far as there vision at the moment.
ommissioner McDaniel said the Commission is very concerned with sound and
is seen a lot of complaints with the activities in the area. He cautioned the
>plicant to pay a lot of attention to how they buffer the sound and they will
obably see some deed restrictions.
hainnan Cole wanted to know if there was a consensus on the land use
iggestion by Commissioner Eaton on redesigning the project to face inward s
can give the applicant some direction for the next meeting.
ommissioner Toerge said anything that can be done to minimize the compatibili
sue will be favorable. He addressed his concern that the lot nearest Rudy's i
)t a small lot, and the lot line adjustment request is to make all the lots the sam
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i. They then use the small lot argument as a reason for justifying tl
roachments in the setback. Commissioner Toerge said he was not inclined
hardship for small lots or any physical hardship to justify the encroachment
setback.
mmissioner Hawkins referred to the purpose of the Cannery Village Specit
n, code section 20.43.020 -D - "The Cannery Village area is intended to sen
active pedestrian- oriented specialty retail area with a wide range of visitc
ving, neighborhood commercial, and marine - related uses permitted" and then
:s about the core area that Commissioner Eaton referred to. He was concerne
i the design of the project and it's retail access issues and didn't think it cou
considered retail. He would like to see the retail be more prominent.
iissioner Eaton said he was in agreement with this and would also try
the pedestrian entrance more subtle.
nmissioner Henn pointed out that this was just 750 square feet and ti
er be significant specialty retail. Therefore, he would have more flexibility
project.
Wilson wanted to address that the commercial was a side load and in,
ause of the handicap access. The front parking space was a handical
ce and the ramp had to access that space.
an Cole asked Mr. Wilson to speak about the encroachment issue and
design.
. Wilson said the Cannery Lofts had asked for the same encroachment and tl
re he got it and it helps that commercial space. Any openings on the side ne
be 10 feet clear from the property line, which make it a very long and narr
Iding. When you encroach these 10 -foot from the rear on the parking and
it from the front, there is a minimal of commercial left.
Cole said so the encroachment is for the parking requirement more
size.
Wilson said the other thing was to avoid tandem on commercial.
missioner Hawkins said he could be flexible on the request if some of
:s were addressed.
mmissioner Toerge asked what were the width of the current lots
. Wilson said the first lot, number 407, is 45 feet and lots 409, 411 and 413
30 feet.
airman Cole said he didn't have a major problem with the encroachments
reasons given, but feels there should be some stronger real estate disclosui
mmissioner Hawkins referred to the Jackson, DeMarco letter and the th
.trictions mentioned in the letter and they should be considered or included
airman Cole said he agreed that if these were addressed it would help in
d use issue.
Henn would like to see a better case for the hardship on
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Peotter said he would not like to see a blank wall facing
comment was opened.
comment was closed.
Cole asked if this item needed to be formally continued.
Temple said we would continue this item and also re- notice it. Ms. T
ed to be clear on what the Commission would like to see on this project:
• A strong desire for the applicant to study the retail entrance from the front.
• The Commission is split on the modification, but might be convinced if I
applicant writes up a more complete case to support the finding for appro
on the setbacks.
• Requirements other than require reversal of the units.
nmissioner Toerge asked if there is anything that restricts these units from
ig residential on the ground floor.
s. Temple said the current General Plan and Zoning require that commercial
component of these projects and that is to be on the ground floor and resider
only allowed on the second floor and above. The new General Plan ma',
odifications to this. It will continue to be a mixed -use area but it would allow
id -block portions of this area to go exclusive residential, only requir
�mmercial at street intersections. This particular project has no str
ersections because the alleys are not counted as streets, so this project cc
exclusive residential once the zoning mechanism to implement the r
aneral Plan is established.
issioner Toerge addressed the following:
• The suitability of the these small lots for the intended purpose of puttinc
commercial on the ground floor.
• He wasn't inclined to compromise fundamental planning requirements in ar
effort to make this project happen.
• Felt there was another way to develop the property that is commercially
reasonable and is suitable that wouldn't require modifications.
• There seems to be a perceived entitlement to some of these properties.
They have entitlement subject to the requirements in the codes and the
development standards.
• Perhaps they should make this into a 3 lot subdivision instead of a 4 to
subdivision and be within the code.
missioner Hawkins asked Ms. Temple if it was the intent of the New Gen
to obliterate the requirement in the Specific Plan on the core specialty n
s, or is there some accommodation, or are the core areas would move to
:rs in the New General Plan.
Temple said there was a recognition that Cannery Village does supr
lest amount of viable commercial, it isn't a main commercial district becar
area is off the beaten path. Not requiring commercial on every property mi
to to make that more viable. The requirement in the mid -block area is not j
residential, it allows exclusive residential but also allows mixed -use
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commercial.
missioner Hawkins then asked if the any requirements of this project
a back seat to the requirements of the General Plan.
;. Temple said should the General Plan be approved there may be great inte
certain areas to make use of the new provisions of the Land Use Plan. As
the implementation program, we could see an interim zoning that would appl
areas of change in Newport Beach. That would provide some spe
;cretionary path to exercise those General Plan provisions. It may take
mths or longer to enact all the code changes. We would have to work with
ty Attorney's office to make sure any interim provisions are appropriate.
rman Cole asked for a motion to continue this item to a later date.
was made by Commissioner McDaniel to continue this item to
[Ayes: I Eaton, Peotter, Hawkins, Cole, McDaniel, Toerge and Henn
Zl.oes: None
bstain: None .
BJECT: Isla Vista Homes (PA2004 -123)
2920 Newport Boulevard
d Plan Amendment, Zone Code Amendment, Tract Map and Modificati
to develop 44 detached residential condominium units on a 3.25 acre si
:neral plan designation would be changed from General Industry to Mu
Residential and the zoning district would be changed from M -1
died Manufacturing) to MFR (Multi - Family Residential). A Modificati
has been requested to allow setback encroachments, decreased distan
n structures and increased wall height in required setbacks.
nt Planner Brandon Nichols gave an overview of the staff report noting:
• Development consists of 44 detached condominiums.
• Staff is requesting input from the Commission on the design
modifications necessary to facilitate it.
• The applicant will present a formal presentation.
McDermott of Government Solutions, representing the property owner
the following:
• Both the architect and property owners are available.
• Referencing the exhibit, she noted the location of the project bounded
Monrovia Avenue, Banning Ranch and the termination of 15th Street.
• A vicinity map was then displayed and explained.
• A current lease on the southern portion of the property runs for an additic
5 years.
Temple noted that the mobile home park located on 15th Street will be
and the paperwork is in process.
Ms. McDermott noted:
Offers to meet with nearby residents have been attempted but
accomplished; however, she is hopeful that one will take place in the
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future.
• Their entitlement request consists of a General Plan Amendment to change
the land use designation from General Industrial to Multi - Family Residential.
This is consistent with the proposed General Plan. A Zone Cod
Amendment to change the current zoning designation from Light Industrial
to Multi - Family Residential; a Tract Map for condominium purposes; and a
Modification Permit and a Mitigated Negative Declaration, which has been
circulated.
• The project consists of 44 detached town homes and will be built in two
phases. The first is 34 units and upon completion of the five year lease on
the office building, the second phase will be 10 units.
• They are all three stories. There are four floor plans that range from 1,800 to
1,900 square feet.
• Referencing the site plan, she noted the right of way required by Public
Works for 15th Street is 104 feet.
• The first phase will have access off Monrovia with special textured paving.
Referencing the plan, she noted the walkways and open space and the
location of the units.
• Phase two will have the front setback on 15th Street with the side yards on
Monrovia. There will be two driveways coming into the project.
• She then noted a typical lot layout with entries into the garages from the
alleys and driveways. She then noted the patio areas, living areas,
landscape, bicycles and trash areas.
• The north phase will be developed first. She then discussed in detail the
procedures and processes.
• The proposed project exceeds code requirements for open space. Common
recreation areas are provided in the plan and the open space concept is a
private patio for each unit to include this mixture of landscape and
hardscape.
• Patios are allowed in the open space and allowed in the setbacks.
• Walkways are allowed in the open space.
• A comparison of the patios and paseos of this project and the Sailhouse
project was shown.
immissioner Eaton wanted to know if this project was going to have the first few
it behind the paseo fence be landscape as does the Sailhouse project.
McDermott answered that their landscaping plan had not been developed that
but they would be willing to work with the Commission on that.
McDermott continued:
• Referring to a slide of the Monrovia Avenue street scene she pointed out the
landscaping in the front, the retaining wall and picketed fence, which would
be the open space in the front yard. Because of the standards of wall
heights, they are asking for a modification. They feel they meet the intent of
front yards, landscape front yards and front open space, but the code doe
not permit it without a modification.
• She then went onto the elevations of the different plans, explaining the
raised areas, the architectural articulation of the buildings, and the various
architectural details.
• Slides were then shown on the different floor plan models, noting the
different levels.
• Ms. McDermott then addressed the following modifications requested.
• Distance Between Buildings -
o The code currently requires 10 feet between buildings, which is thel
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standard required for an apartment building consisting of numerot
units. This project has single - family units and they are requesting tt
7 foot standard to be applied. At this point she referenced a slic
showing single - family units, with multi - family characteristics, and
feet between each unit. They had considered attached building
which would not have required the setback, but for marketing ar
other considerations it made more sense to be detached units with tt
reduced side yards. She also noted that the plans on Sailhou:
showed they also had 7 feet between the buildings.
• Side Yard Setbacks -
o The side yard setbacks on the north parcel were based on tt
irregular configuration of the lot and 104 -foot right -of -way dedication.
• The right yard setback is required to be18.12 -feet and they a
proposing 10 -feet.
• The left yard setback is required to be18.12 -feet and they a
proposing 17.9 -feet.
sioner Hawkins questioned the environmental document and the land
of the project, which indicates there are no impacts or less than signifi
in c6nnection with the project and that it is consistent with the land
cents. However there are modifications being proposed.
McDermott responded the Mitigated Negative Declaration (MND) w:
fired on the basis of a PRD Zone. After working through those standards,
apparent that the MFR Zone was more appropriate. Either would have
tcant parking requirement or some modifications. The modifications, from
In standpoint, were appropriate request and from an environmental standpoi
weren't any real impacts. It was there understanding the environment
ultant felt, from a CEQA standpoint, there were no impacts of the change.
Nichols responded as follows:
The original design that was analyzed by the MND did not change wh
they changed the zoning designation.
Under the MFR regulations there is a certain amount of flexibility that
allow regarding setbacks and distance between buildings.
When you remove the PRD you create the need for modifications unc
MFR standards.
loner Hawkins said his concern was we now have a slightly
on with modifications and how does that fit in with the envir
in the MND.
Temple addressed that question:
CEQA assess and analyze the environmental impacts of projects,
in a land use sense.
• The approval of the modifications is a needed planning application am
those are evaluated on different basis than environmental affects.
• She concurs with the environmental consultant that, in this particular case
no additional affects nor mitigation measures would have been identified
had the original project description include this component of the application
nmissioner Hawkins then asked now that the project includes the
modifications, does the Staff believe those requirements do not
ate additional adverse impacts.
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Temple answered yes, because the assessment in CEQA pursuant to adver.
ronmental affects is directly in relationship to adverse affects on the physic
ronment. Whether or not the City has or approves a planning application,
result in the field is the same, what we are assessing is the impact of tl
:lopment and not the compliance with the provisions of the Zoning Code.
McDermott continued with the modifications requested:
Walls - Design - Use -
o Request over - height walls in the front, rear, and side yard setbacks.
• Referring to a slide, she pointed out a typical wall condition.
■ 4 foot 6 inch to 5 foot retaining wall.
■ 3 foot 6 inch picket fence.
■ Total wall height of 8 feet to 8 feet 6 inches.
• The wall, landscaping, and patio are all part of yards.
• Typically walls are restricted in front yards, due to driveways and i
restricted view the wall may create, but in this project all of the park
is fro.m_the rear of the unit.
n Cole asked if this would occur where there is a garage.
McDermott said no because the garage faces the alley or the driveway.
uirement does not preclude it in that location.
McDermott continued:
• Walls - Design - Use-
• Wall height along the north property line varies.
• If the wall is shielding the at -grade patios it would be a 6 -foot wall
which no modification is requested.
• The retaining wall with the above fencing would be an 11 -foot wall
and was designed to be higher where the property is adjacent to the
adjoining industrial property and where there are paseos.
• Ms. McDermott then recapped where the over- height walls wen
located by pointing them out on the slide.
• A comparison of Sailhouse's 7 -foot distance between buildings an(
over - height walls in the front yard setback was shown.
• Total retaining wall height was 7 feet 8 inches.
• Picket fence height was 3 feet 6 inches.
• Total wall height was 11 feet 2 inches.
• Light Wells in the Front Yards -
o Ms. McDermott referred to the slide pointing out where the light wel
was located.
• There is no visible encroachment into the setback, but from
technical standpoint it does require a modification.
• Ms. McDermott then addressed the parking requirements.
• Some local residents have had parking issues regarding One Nautica
Mile and the abuse of an adjoining driveway. These residents wouk
like to know about the parking requirements for this project.
• The zone requirements vary considerably.
• MFR requires 2 covered spaces per unit and .5 guest spaces.
• PRO requires 2 covered spaces per unit and 2 guest spaces
including street parking.
• R -I requires 2 covered spaces.
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• This project is between the MFR requirement, the R -1 requiremer
and PRD is sometime used but seldom used because the standard
very difficult to meet.
• We have provide the following for this project-
• On -site covered parking at 2 per unit which equals 88 tot
spaces.
• On -site guest parking at .5 per unit which equals 22 total.
• Street parking on Monrovia Avenue, only for their side of tt
street, equaled 20 street parking spaces.
• Along the future of 15th Street there would be an additional 1
spaces.
• Ultimate on and off -site guest parking would total 56 gue
spaces.
• This meets the parking requirements.
ssioner McDaniel requested Ms. McDermott to point out where the
is located.
aver Hawkins asked that the Staff address the_ on- street
15th Street.
Brine, Public Works Principal Civil Engineer, responded to Commissio
(ins question stating once 15th Street is improved there will be no parking
Street.
McDermott responded that this was the first time they had been told that.
r. Brine said they typically do not allow parking on arterial roadways. It
McDermott said the David Keely, from the Public Works Department, said
ing would be allowed. Ms. McDermott sasid they would need to work
is Works on this issue.
r. Brine said they would have to review this situation, but felt parking would
Hawkins suggested the applicant and Staff readdress this issue.
McDermott said depending on the outcome of land use in Banning Ranch, th
tional right -of -way may or may not be ultimately needed. So there could be
ction in the roadway width and that would allow parking even under tl
;nt standards. They will work on that before the next meeting.
issioner Hawkins had concerns on:
• The 104 -foot width of the right -of -way. Traffic accessing Coast Highway,
and crowded conditions on Superior and Newport Boulevard.
• Encouraged Staff to retain that requirement for as long as possible.
McDermott continued:
• Referring to the site plan, she pointed out all the different areas for parking.
McDaniel asked how wide the parking was at the entrance.
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>. McDermott answered it is 36 feet, wide enough to allow two lanes of travel
d parking.
>. Temple stated that 36 feet is our private road standard and would allow
rking on both sides of the street.
mmissioner Eaton asked Staff if they would look at the Sailhouse projec
larding the side -to -side separations from building face to building face, and the
nt -to -front. He thinks the front -to -front across the paseo from building to
ilding on this project is greater and would like that verified.
mmissioner McDaniel expressed his concern on using the roadway for parking,
w cluttered it would make the project and would like to see more guest parking.
immissioner Eaton asked Ms. McDermott to point out the common recreational
-as, how large they are, and what they may be used for.
McDermott did not have the square footage at this time but could provide that
the next meeting. She then pointed out where they were located, and that the
uld be landscaped and have benches. .
, mmissioner Peotter asked:
• If they had considered having a pool or common recreation facility.
• Will they be contributing towards Williamson Act, park land, etc.?
• Where is the closest park that would serve this project?
McDermott answered:
• Looking at the Sailhouse project, which does not have these facilities, there
didn't seemed to be a lot of demand for on -site recreational areas so the
left it in a passive state on this project.
• They will pay their annual park fees to the City for the enhancement of the
existing public recreation space.
• She said there will be a new park down the hill. The parcel was just
purchased from CalTrans and is to have ball fields and other active
recreational spaces.
mmissioner Hawkins asked about the One Nautical Mile project, how large i
s and if it had a pool and recreational facilities.
Nichols answered he didn't know the size of the development, but it did no
✓e a pool.
blic comment opened.
oft Christian, homeowner at Newport Knolls which is across the street from this
)posed development, expressed the following:
• He was not opposed to developing this area but did not want to see it over
developed.
• Concerned about the parking. Since One Nautical Mile project finished,
15th Street at night has no parking left. The parking that the applicant is
expecting on the west side of Monrovia will be non- existent. It is a high
density area.
• The speed limit is still 40MPH on 15th Street, which now has a lot o
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residential, and should be lowered.
They would like to see on -site parking for any new development in the area.
As the area becomes more developed, more and more people are parking ii
their development, which is not gated. They now have parking permits an(
towing of unauthorized vehicles.
The residents at One Nautical Mile actual come over the fence and use th(
pool facilities in their development. They are very concerned that anothe
facility without a pool will just create more people using their pool. They an
dealing with the HOA at One Nautical Mile to remedy these problems.
conifer Irani, homeowner at Newport Knolls and serves on the HOA, al
;pressed her concerns on the parking and recreational area. She wanted
cus on the speed limit and all the new traffic, and could the speed limit
wered to make it safer. She also wanted to know about the fence that went frc
feet to 11 feet and how that effected the property owner adjacent to that. She
partner of the adjacent property.
inner Toerge suggested the Ms. Irani and any other owner of
property make their concerns known to the Commission.
mmissioner McDaniel wanted to get her input on the parking and who is
the street and why.
Irani said she wasn't sure but with One Nautical Mile becoming occupied ar
is an apartment complex in the area, there just seems to be a influx of cars.
McDaniel asked Staff, for the next hearing on this item, to find out what t
ing requirements are for some of the adjacent properties and if that impact
sing everyone to park on the street and how we should address that for ti
Temple responded that the current zoning requirement is 2.5 parking
unit for all properties zoned MFR. If the Commission thinks that is ina
need to change the code.
y Malone, HOA president of Newport Knolls, feels the lack of parking at o
:ical Mile is that they have a lot of renters, which tends to be college studei
5 people living in one unit and they all have cars. They seem to be the or
are parking on the streets, parking on Newport Knolls property and coming
pool.
comment closed.
Toerge addressed the following:
We say this has been re -zoned MFR, but the General Plan just talks
density and it has not been re -zoned MFR.
There are different ways of approaching this project, the PRD District, F
District, and MFR District. The PRD District has an enormous parkii
requirement, so an applicant would rather process an application under
MFR which would reduce the parking requirement. The MFR has oth
issues that the applicant is requesting modifications for.
The MFR Zone may be applicable for an attached- housing project.
o Deep setback requirements that might be more suitable for a proje
consolidated with subterranean parking, and multiple condos in tl
middle.
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It seems the applicant has chosen single - family homes and the MFR zo
to minimize the parking requirement.
When is it appropriate to use PRD, PC or MFR zoning for project like
that are really single - family?
Nichols responded:
Staff wanted input from the Commission because of the issues in our cu
code dealing with projects like this.
There were similar questions with the Sailhouse project, which is I
zoned. MFR zoning regulations do not map well onto a small -lot deta4
sub - divisions, but does allow detached units within it as a permitted use.
Regarding the different entitlement options for this project -
o PRD -
o PC
PRD was added to the MFR and imposed 2 guest parki
space requirement, which is four times the MFR requirement.
The PRD standard seems to apply to a small -lot conventioi
sub - division that would have a driveway in front and that woi
satisfy the 2 guest parking spaces There are not a lot of the
in the City. PRD was considered for this project but not chos
due to the projects inability to satisfy the parking requirement.
■ Was never on the table.
o MFR -
PC is intended for large parcels as reflected in the actual
regulations that require a minimum of 10 developed acres.
The MFR designation allows this type of development.
The project would require modifications to MFR develop
standards..
■ MFR development standards are intended to apply to I
attached projects, as evidenced by the large 18 -foot side
requirement and the 10 foot required building separation.
. These issues were dealt with at the Sailhouse project and they were all
6 feet between the buildings.
Toerge responded as follows:
• The PC requirement on the 10 acres could be changed with the Plani
Commission's approval. It may a good idea to reduce this PC requiren
because of less and less larger areas to be developed, as residential, in
City.
• A more conventional MFR design may be more suitable for this project.
• The right -a -way being used as the front yard, when it is not curre
dedicated or built, should be taken into consideration and discussed.
• PRD does allow street parking to be calculated for parking purposes.
• Using MFR zoning and then counting street parking is disingenuous.
• The guest parking is not suitable and is inadequate.
• The open spaces could be more centrally located.
• Would like the Staff to address the suitability of approving Phase II that
not be developed within the time frame of the permit.
• The Sailhouse project has some distinct differences.
• It incorporates some combined attached housing along with
single - family detached housing.
• When comparing the heights of walls and retaining walls,
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Sailhouse project is on a slope where as this project is on a flat lot.
The wall that goes from 6 feet to 11 feet is a concern and the adjac
property owners should opine on that.
The parking issue needs to be completely revisited because of
inadequacies.
-nan Cole asked Commissioner Toerge what zoning was more appl
than MFR.
ssioner Toerge said the PRD seems to be more suitable zoning for th
y, especially the parking requirement. The MFR is more oriented towards
dated detached project. The problem he has, is asking for one type
that benefits the parking ratio and then asking for modifications to make
r other issues.
drman Cole said they are asking for a General Plan amendment, which t
e the right to do under the current and proposed General Plan. He then as
ff to clarify that the applicant is not asking for a parking modification, but
parking requirement has is met on -site and the street parking is ancillary to
Arement. The only modification requested is for the encroachment issue.
Nichols answered that was correct and that when Staff was evaluatin
:ct they would not consider the on- street parking and it does meet
.ing requirement for on -site parking.
iissioner McDaniel said this is an Industrial Zone and doesn't currently
requirements. As proposed, the parking doesn't work for the project.
Eaton addressed the following:
The MFR Zone was intended for conventional attached units with parkir
suitable for those units.
When designing a single - family sub - division in a MFR zone, there may be
disconnect for the parking.
The Sailhouse project was more lineal, had a public street on one side ar
had a private street on the back side of the project which could be used h
parking, and thinks that project had more than the .5 parking space per ur
and would like Staff to possibly check into that.
rmmissioner Henn said he likes the detached single - family design and would
see some way to stay with that approach.
made by Commissioner Hawkins to continue this item to December 7
None
None
Planning Commission Rules of Procedures
Commission agreed taking this item up after 10:30.
Temple presented a draft report that includes input from both Commission(
staff. This item has resulted from past circumstances and at Commissi
;tion regarding the rules of procedures. This draft report includes a drafts
s that have been revised.
ITEM NO.7
Approved
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issioner Hawkins then distributed his copy of the rules with his
He then noted his comments:
• Study Sessions - No specific times or day; expand subject matter; remov
reference to what can be done and remove redundant reference to officia
action.
• Agendas - add verbiage 'as provided herein' in paragraph A; and addition c
verbiage related to maximum public participation.
• Voting - add reference to another form of voting in the event the light syster
becomes inoperable; add verbiage requiring Commissioner to state reason
he or she is disqualified from voting on an item;
• Order of Business - verbiage referencing noticing of hearings as proscribe
by City Clerk's office.
• Conduct of Meetings - add identification of speakers; a second motion i
now required; the Chairman may not make motions.
City Attorney Harp noted:
Order of Business - Hearings shall be noticed as required by law.
loner Hawkins opined a difference between noticing by City Clerk
Commission and is suggested keeping the same reference.
Temple noted this is a procedure for staff, not for Planning Commissioner
ever, she will look into the matter.
continued on the appointment of Commissioners to
and how the appointments are made.
Toerge noted:
• He does not support a second motion rule other than for a
motion.
• The Chairman should be able to make motions.
• The minutes should not be on the Consent Calendar.
• Remove the Consent Calendar altogether as it has not served the
for which it was originally intended.
• Committee assignment issue is not necessary.
:re was a consensus by the Commission to remove the consent calendar
agenda.
Temple affirmed that there would be no problem with removing the
idar from the agenda.
drperson Cole then went through the drafts and the following was agreed to
Commission:
. Section VI: Time of Meetings -
o B - Add, "When this schedule conflicts with holidays or the mand;
of priority projects, the Commission may alter this schedule as
forth in sections E and F below."
• C - Agreed to proposed language regarding "any other matter w
the jurisdiction of the Planning Commission."
• C - Remove reference of specific time or days of study sessi,
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remove reference to type of materials received at study session
remove final sentence regarding official action as it is redundant.
• Section VII: Agendas -
o A - Add verbiage 'as provided herein' in paragraph A;
• B - add verbiage related to maximum public participation.
• Section VIII Voting Procedure -
o B - Add, "In case of emergency or problems with the vote registeri
lighting system, the Chairman may determine any other reasonal
manner to vote and register votes on any matters on any agenda.
• C - the first sentence to read, "Any Commissioner who is disqualifi
from voting on a particular matter by reason of a conflict of inten
shall publicly state or have the Chairman state this determination a
the nature of such disqualification in open meeting.
• D and E - shall be re- worked for clarification.
• Section IX Order of Business -
o Remove consent calendar.
Remove 4a that references proscribed noticing, as it is not necessary.
• Section X Conduct of Meetings -
o C - Remove residence request;
o Add use of sign in sheet at podium;
o E - second to a motion is required; Chairman not able to make
o F - remove the last sentence in F relating to voting on the s
motion treated as an amendment.
• Section XI Committee -
o No change.
• Section XV Amendment of Rules -
o A - These rules may be proposed to be amended or added to by
affirmative votes of the Planning Commission at a regular me4
pursuant to the procedures in Section XV.
made by Commissioner Peotter and seconded by Commissioner Eaton
the changes to the rules of procedures.
[Ayes: Eaton, Peotter, Hawkins, Cole, McDaniel, Toerge and Henn
Noes: None
bstain: None
a. City Council Follow -up - Ms. Temple noted the City Council heard t
second reading and adoption of ordinances to Koll Center and Aeronutroi
Ford Planned Community; approved a professional services agreement
hire Hogle Ireland for the services of David Lepo to serve as inter
Planning Director.
b. Report from Planning Commission's representative to the Econo
Development Committee - Commissioner Henn said the draft of Strate
Plan hasn't been completed. It will be considered again by
subcommittee and should be approved by the EDC at the next meeting
November 22, 2006, at which point it will go to the City Council for our st
session.
c. Report from the Planning Commission's representative to the Local Coa
Committee - no meeting
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d. Matters which a Planning Commissioner would like Staff to report on at
subsequent meeting - none
e. Matters which a Planning Commissioner may wish to place on a
agenda for action and staff report - none
f. Project status - none
g. Requests for excused absences -none
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