HomeMy WebLinkAboutThai Del Mar Restaurant (PA2003-002)CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT
Agenda Item No. 2
April 3, 2003
TO: PLANNING COMMISSION
FROM: Gregg B. Ramirez, Associate Planner
(949) 644 -3219, gramirezCcDcity newoort- beach.ca.us
SUBJECT: Thai Del Mar Restaurant (PA2003 -002)
2754 East Coast Highway
Request to amend Use Permit No. 3153 to allow a change in operational
characteristics from a take -out service restaurant to a full - service, small -
scale restaurant and to permit the addition of customer seating which is
prohibited by the existing Use Permit. The subject property is located in
the Retail and Service Commercial (RSC) Zoning District.
APPLICANT NAME: Robert L. Wynn for the owners of Thai Del Mar Restaurant, Pat
and Chamas Khantong
DISCUSSION:
This item was continued from the Planning Commission meeting of February 20, 2003,
in order to investigate whether the Building Department requirement that a unisex
restroom be provided (Condition No. 16) was applicable. Through discussions with the
Building Department, staff confirmed that the Uniform Building Code (Chapter 29,
Section 2905, Table A29 -A) and Uniform Plumbing Code (Section 413 and Table 4 -1)
require that a unisex bathroom be provided when customer seating is provided at eating
and drinking establishments. The construction of the new restroom must be done in
accordance with applicable disabled access requirements.
Additionally, staff contacted the Orange County Department of Environmental Health
and discovered that Health Department regulations prohibit customers from passing
through areas of food preparation and storage, as is the case with Thai Del Mar.
Therefore, the existing restroom cannot be used to satisfy the restroom requirement.
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April 3, 2003
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RECOMMENDATION:
Staffs recommends the Planning Commission hold a public hearing and approve the
requested amendment to Use Permit No. 3153 (PA2003 -002) based on the findings and
conditions of approval within the Draft Planning Commission Resolution contained in the
previous staff report.
Prepared by:
Gregg B. Ramirez, Associate Planner
Attachments:
Submitted by:
Patricia L. Temple, Planning Director
A. Letter in support of application
B. Excerpt of minutes from the February 20, 2003 Planning Commission
hearing
C. Recycled staff report from February 20, 2003 Planning Commission
hearing
ATTACHMENT A
LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANT
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ATTACHMENT B
EXCERPT OF MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 20, 2003
PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING
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Planning Commission Minutes
February 20, 2003
Ayes: Toerc
Excused: Kiser
Gifford, Selich, Tucker
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SUBJECT: Thai Del Mar - (PA2003 -002) Item No. 5
2754 East Coast Highway PA2003 -002
Request to amend Use Permit No. 3153 to allow a change in operational Continued to
characteristics from a take -out restaurant to a full service, small scale restaurant and 04/03/2003
to permit the addition of customer seating which is prohibited by the existing Use
Permit
Mr. Bob Wynn, representing the applicant noted the following: 1 L E COPY
• The restaurant is 52 feet long and 11.5 feet wide.
• The current use in this restaurant violates the existing use permit that had
been issued in 1985 that did not allow sit down seating.
• In 1997, the applicants bought the establishment and at that time there
were tables and chairs in the restaurant. The present owners thought that
the seating was a legal use. It was an obvious assumption that sit down
seating was allowed, but it was erroneous.
• The appricanfs have read the staff report and concur with staff's findings
with one exception, the restroom. Two bids were obtained for the
constniction of the unisex restroom. He asked that the Commission remove
this condition as the bids come in at $18,500 and $17,950 just to replace the
current restroom. The Code will require a handicap accessible restroom and
in order to do that the price would be increased to $53,850 and $55,500
which is about 30% more than the current bids to replace the one that is in
the back of the restaurant now.
• They have one year remaining on the lease and an expense of this kind
would be difficult to agree to and to meet.
Commissioner Selich asked if the Planning Commission had the ability to waive the
restroom requirement.
Ms. Temple answered it is not within the jurisdiction of the Planning Commission to
waive such a requirement, however, we could provide the maximum amount of
latitude for the applicant to work with the Building Department to see if there is any
other possible means of resolution by adding to the wording on condition 16, '...or
the Building Department Bnds that this is not required......' If the Building Department
can find any provision in the Uniform Building Code or the Handicapped Access
Code to either waive the requirement or use another alternative to the one that has
been suggested, that would all be consistent with the conditions. There is only one
year left on the lease, but the applicant could reinstate the non - seating restaurant
operation and then work on a lease extension that would justify such an
expenditure.
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Ms. Clauson added that Ms. Temple's suggestion would give more flexibility for the
building official and then any appeal of that decision or waiver goes to the Board of
Appeals that deal with building issues. That would be the route the applicant can
take.
Commissioner Tucker confirmed that the seating in the restaurant triggers the need
for something that otherwise does not need to happen. You have an approximate
600 feet space, and the handicap restroom takes up a lot of room.
Commissioner Gifford noted that she would not want to create some exceptional
situation that remains after a new lease is negotiated. If your client is intending to
continue business in this location, now may be the appropriate time to negotiate a
new lease.
Mr. Wynn presented some language for condition 16: If the use is modified in the
future with RSC Zoning or if a new five year lease is issued, or if a remodel is
performed involving $1,000 then the applicant is required to obtain permits for the
restroom, etc.....'
Ms. Temple answered that she would have to take that language back to the
building official to see if it meets the requirement of the Uniform Building Code. We
would have to continue this item for a couple of weeks if the Commission decides
that is what should be done. We can attempt to find out if it was not required as
well. To change the language as Mr. Wynn has suggested, I would like to consult
with the Building Director before the Commission actually accepts this language.
Mr. Wynn conjectured that if that requirement is not in there, but you just amend the
original use permit to allow sit down seating and don't even mention restrooms, in
my opinion the requirement of the restroom wouldn't be impacted by the State
Law. If you don't mention the restroom, are they allowed to have the sit down
seating? He then read a letter from Mr. Paul Connelly in support of this restaurant.
Ms. Clauson noted that this condition was put in so that the Building Department
would know that it needs to be done. It is a matter of dealing with them on the
State Law requirements. It is not a Planning Deportment requirement.
Vice Chairperson McDaniel noted that since this has been brought to our attention,
if we do not concern ourselves with ADA situations, do we leave the City open to
any issues? If we are aware of this and we didn't make them fix it, where does that
leave the City?
Ms. Clauson answered that she is not aware of how this would come to the
attention of the Building Department; maybe you don't need a building permit to
trigger this. I do not know how they process violations of State Law. I don't think
taking out the condition avoids the requirement to comply with the building code; it
may avoid triggering somebody's review of enforcing it.
Ms. Temple added that if the Commission wishes to proceed with this concept, they
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need to continue this item for two weeks so that she could talk to the
official about his enforcement posture now that we are informed this is a
requirement and to see if the lack of building permit necessarily would make their
enforcement posture different.
Ms. Clauson confirmed that it would be best to talk to the building official for the
rationales, reasons, suggestions and alternatives that the applicant is proposing will
get the some results rather than eliminate language that the Building Department
requested.
Commissioner Toerge noted:
• Doesn't understand how accessible bathrooms cost three times what a
regular one costs, I build them and they don't.
• There are a number of restaurants in Corona del Mar that have indoor
seating with restrooms accessible through the kitchen, they work fine.
• We should do all we can to accommodate this applicant, even removing
this condition.
Commissioner Agajanian stated he would be in favor of continuing this item to see if
there are altematives to work with. It is obvious the applicant missed the 'table'
condition in the first place.
Commissioner Gifford noted she is uncomfortable removing a condition for the
stated purpose of avoiding triggering the enforcement of a building code
requirement and would like to see this item continued and suggested that the
applicant talk to their landlord about their lease.
Commissioner Selich noted he would eliminate the condition.
Commissioner Tucker noted he would both eliminate the condition and continue
the item. This restaurant would have to be radically changed with a new restroom.
Public comment was opened.
Motion was made by Commissioner Selich to approve amendment to Use Permit
No. 3153 (PA2003 -002) based on the findings and conditions of approval within the
attached resolution with the elimination of condition 16.
Commissioner Tucker noted he would like to see a continuance to the meeting of
April 3rd to give the building official time to look at alternatives and if it comes back
with the insistence on this condition then next time I would not vote on the removal
of this condition. He made this a substitute motion.
Commissioner Selich noted he would withdraw his motion.
Ayes: Toerge, Aga)anion, McDaniel, Gifford, Selich, Tucker
Excused: Kiser
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