HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC MinutesCITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
Planning Commission Minutes
April 4, 2002
Regular Meeting - 6:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Commissioners McDaniel, Kiser, Agajanian, Tucker, Gifford, Kranzley and Selich-
Commissioner Kiser was excused
STAFF PRESENT:
Sharon Wood, Assistant City Manager
Patrick Alford, Acting Planning Director
Robin Clauson, Assistant City Attorney
Rich Edmonston, Transportation /Development Services Manager
James Campbell, Senior Planner
Todd Weber, Associate Planner
Ginger Varin, Planning Commission Executive Secretary
Minutes:
Motion was made by Chairperson Tucker to approve the minutes of March 21, 2002
as amended.
Ayes: McDaniel, Agajanian, Tucker, Gifford
Noes: None
Excused: Kiser
Abstain: Kranzley, Selich
Public Comments:
Posting of the Agenda:
The Planning Commission agenda was posted on Friday, March 29, 2002.
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SUBJECT: Brown Duplex
405 Dahlia Avenue
(PA2001 -173)
Substantial conformance review related to reorientation of the garages.
Chairperson Tucker noted that this item had been reviewed at the last meeting
with no consensus. The applicant requested a continuance.
Commissioner Selich noted he would support the substantial conformance as the
best solution and that it still leaves the issue open to turning the garages around
for an easy conversion in the future.
Commissioner Kranzley stated he is not in support of this, as he does not support
tandem parking.
Commissioner Gifford stated she is in support of the finding of substantial
conformance.
Commissioner Agajanian noted his opposition.
Commissioner McDaniel noted his opposition.
Andrew Goetz, speaking for the applicant, noted that the applicant has worked
with the neighbor in good faith. The plan can be engineered with headers so that
it can be converted back to the original plan. Mr. Brown will continue to extend
the opportunity to a future purchaser of that property.
Commissioner Kranzley noted that this is a granting of a variance for an additional
amount of square footage on this property. The variance that I approved did not
have tandem parking. Tandem parking is problematic and does not satisfy the
off- street parking for a cul -de -sac. Not every use in Corona del Mar came in for a
variance for additional square footage as well. Mr. Brown can make a smaller
footprint, make a change to the design of the house and still accommodate
more off - street parking, but the applicant has chosen to go for the additional
square footage.
Chairperson Tucker asked if the applicant's representative would like a
continuance. Mr. Goetz answered yes.
Motion was made by Commissioner Selich to continue this item to April 18, 2002.
Ayes:
Agajanian, Tucker, Gifford, Kranzley, Selich
Noes:
McDaniel
Excused:
Kiser
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SUBJECT: Naval Residence
1201 Kings Rd.
• (PA2002 -007)
Amendment to a previously approved Variance where a 1 and 2 story addition
to an existing single family dwelling would exceed the 24 -foot height limit, ranging
from 1 foot to 9 feet. The modified project would further exceed the 24 -foot height
limit ranging from 1 to 10.17 feet.
Ms. Wood reported that this item is to be continued, at the request of the
applicant, to May 9, 2002.
There was a discussion on the use of story poles. It was decided that as the
applicant was not present, any discussion and decision should happen when the
applicant was present.
Motion was made by Commissioner Kranzley to continue this item to May 9, 2002
as requested by the applicant.
Ayes: McDaniel, Agajanian, Tucker, Gifford, Kranzley, Selich
Noes: None
Excused: Kiser
SUBJECT: Wine Gallery
2411 E. Coast Highway
(PA2001 -184)
Request to increase the retail floor area by approximately 500 square feet, and to
add wine tasting within an existing wine shop located in Corona del Mar.
Commissioner Kranzley asked about condition 5, the records to determine
compliance with the 10% of the total gross receipts of the business. That is only as
requested by staff and is not filed regularly, is it on a complaint basis?
Staff answered that the intent was if the operation became primarily wine tasting,
then the applicant would have to show the receipts as documentation.
Commissioner McDaniel noted the hours of operation in condition 9.
Staff answered that there are two sets of hours of operation; the 11 a.m. to 8 a.m.
is for the retail sales portion and the tasting and education is the slightly later hours
of 6 p.m. to 9 p.m.
Public comment was opened.
Michael Cho, 3991 MacArthur Blvd., representing the applicant noted:
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• Request a change to condition 9 that the hours of operation be for
seven days a week and permit the wine tasting that is downstairs to be
consistent with the business operation hours, seven days a week.
• Most of the business is conducted on the weekends.
• Asked that the overall hours be from 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. with any tastings
during that time period.
• Tastings will be in a confined area and controlled by the employees
and may be in conjunction with a wine representative or wine maker
during promotional periods of time.
Chairperson Tucker asked about the parking issue.
Mr. Cho answered that parking in Corona del Mar is a problem all the time.
During the daytime period, there may be more of a parking problem due to the
nearby stores. We will have to address it at that time, as it is now, the wine tasting
is an ancillary use to the wine shop. It is not intended to make the wine shop a
destination place to go and have a drink. I don't think parking will be impacted
that much.
Ms. Wood added that there are two different kinds of wine tasting. There is the
one in the retail portion of the store, which would be for a customer who is coming
in to buy bottles of wine and may taste one or two, which would be during the
normal hours of operation. That is the one that would be downstairs and staff
would have a problem with the parking, especially on a Saturday afternoon.
Commissioner Agajanian clarified that the applicant is asking for the hours of
operation to be 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. and that the wine tasting and wine education
be similar hours within those business hours and also expand it from the Monday to
Thursday to include Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
Mr. Cho answered, yes.
Commissioner Agajanian then noted
• Shares the parking concern for the downstairs group.
• Does not have a problem with the wine tasting upstairs.
• Suggests that the hours be expanded 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. for retail
operation and the wine tasting, but leave the wine education 6 p.m.
to 9 p.m., Monday thru Sunday.
Commissioner Kranzley noted his concern with the daytime parking.
Public comment was closed.
Motion was made by Commissioner Kranzley to adopt resolution approving Use
Permit No. 2001 -033 (PA2001 -184) subject to the findings and conditions of
approval in the draft resolution attached as Exhibit A with a change in condition 9
to read, ' Hours of operation shall be from 11 a.m. to 9 p.m., Monday through
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Sunday for the retail sales portion of the business including wine tasting. Wine
tasting and wine education in the lower level may be conducted only between
the hours of 6 p.m. and 9 p.m., seven days a week and shall not be conducted
more than two times per week.
Ayes:
McDaniel, Agajanian, Tucker, Gifford, Kranzley, Selich
Noes:
None
Excused:
Kiser
SUBJECT: Pacific Bay Homes
One Ford Road
• (PA2001 -250)
Request to amend the Planned Community Development Text to allow the
installation of independent kitchen facilities within guest cottages. The eleven
properties are identified as Parcel Nos. 1 through 8 (on Troon Drive) and Lot Nos. 9
and 13 (on Turnbemy Drive) of Tract Map No. 15387 and Lot No. 21 (on Honors Drive)
of Tract Map No. 15389.
Ms. Wood noted the following:
• Since distribution of the report, additional issues have been found that
need to be examined if this concept was to go forward; the
implications for all of the 10,00 square foot or larger lots in One Ford
Road and what city -wide implications would be for lots in other
developments that meet that size standard; as well as the effects on
second unit and granny flat ordinances.
• The Assistant City Attorney is concerned because of some recent case
law dealing with the second unit laws.
• Staff recommends that you go ahead with the hearing for public
testimony and then make a determination among yourselves whether
this is a concept that is worth pursuing at all. If it is something that you
wish to look into further, then staff recommends a continuation so that
they can look at those issues in more depth.
• Since this could be a citywide policy issue, it could be a consideration
as part of the General Plan Update.
Commissioner Agajanian stated that the applicant is agreeable to putting a no
rent or lease clause to these units. I wonder if there is any language offered by
the applicant to address an in -kind service work problem, where it is not
technically rented, or leased, it is an implied rent /lease thereby getting around
the clause.
Ms. Clauson answered this is one of the reasons that I am concerned. The City
cannot control the occupants of the property. If a second unit is allowed, it can
not be conditioned as to the type of occupant that will be in there. What I don't
know is whether the agreement to not rent out the property separately from the
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whole property would be enforceable. I would need additional time to look into
that.
Chairperson Tucker then asked about deed restrictions and who would be
empowered to enforce them.
Ms. Clauson answered that is another issue that we would have to look at. A
deed restriction would be a form of notice but does not help the City too much
because you can always give another deed to yourself and have it recorded.
have not had the time to think through whether this is legal or not.
Mr. Alford added that staff looked at the CC & R's for One Ford Road pertaining
to the sections on single - family residence development and parking. They did not
directly address the issue of guest cottages, one way or the other. They did define
that the area had to be used for a single - family residence, so there might be
some internal conflict. If there is an agreement made with the City on the
definition of what constitutes a second unit, that still might be a matter between
the property owners and whether that meets the intent of the CC & R's.
Commissioner Agaianion noted that the granny flat legislation would apply in this
case, but the applicant is not interested in that.
Commissioner Gifford noted she would not be in favor of this particular request to
amend, but if there were a broad approach citywide then she would be open to
considering that. As this stands now, she would not be in favor of it and feels this is
more a policy then property specific issue.
Chris Yelich, of Pacific Bay Properties and living at 21 Turnberrry Drive, noted the
following:
The property was originally approved with the maximum density of 450
units.
Maps that came into the City were for 403 units that were taken down
to 370 units by adding parks and amenities that would benefit the
entire community.
There were a number of homes built that actually had cottages built
along with the homes. 17 of those homes were built.
2 custom lot homes were built and one has a cottage with a sink and
refrigerated drawer, which under the City's rules, constitutes a kitchen.
Thus the reason an amendment to the PC text was filed for the custom
homes.
As a homeowner and as a representative of Pacific Bay Homes, we do
not want to see any rentals.
The CC & R's are specific to naming one family allowed per lot.
1 live in a home with a cottage and when my parents come out to visit,
it would be nice to have a facility for them to prepare their own foods.
The amendment is not for a rental, but I understand how it will be
difficult to enforce. There are deed restrictions, the CC & R's as well as
the requirement for one set of utilities per lot; however, there are issues
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of control.
We agree with staff's original recommendation, which was on the
10,000 square foot lot; the application named lots specifically and we
can go back and look at that with staff if this gets continued as well as
talk to other homeowners.
The intention was to have a facility that would accommodate guests
to prepare food in the guest homes. Those cottages are in existence.
People could still go out and rent them except they would not have
the cooking facility. We want this to be looked at as One Ford Road;
Bonita Canyon is a different circumstance where they have food
preparation areas.
The amount of units has been reduced from the original amount. The
parking is there, and people still use the cottages for visiting.
At Commission inquiry, Mr. Yelich noted:
• There are guesthouses with no cooking facilities throughout the
complex.
• The Bonita Canyon project annexed to the City has guest
houses /cottages with cooking facilities. The plans were already
approved.
• Most of the cottages are being used as play rooms /dens as well as
used for guests; there are some older kids that live in the cottages as
well.
Ms. Wood added that the cooking facility is the key because that is what triggers
the unit meting the definition of a second unit. The guest cottage alone with
sleeping and bathing facilities is just another bedroom that happens to be
unattached in this case.
William Cohen, 16 Belcourt stated:
• If this were to pass, you would be creating two residences where two
families can live on the premises.
• There is nothing stopping someone from renting the main house and
living in the small house.
• The volume of parking and traffic will increase,
• If this were to pass, you would be setting a precedent.
Cordell Fisher, 95 Old Course Drive stated:
• Continue this item, as the homeowner's board has not had the
opportunity to review this issue and how it would affect our community
on the impact of parking and finances.
• The notice was flawed and not clear. The street names were not listed
and the Tract Map was not correct.
• There are already four existing cottages.
Arabelle Brown, 4 Vintage Drive stated:
• A letter was sent to the Planning Commission.
• The Stoneybrook development has a garage or office that is
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detached; it is not indicated as a cottage as shown on the layout
exhibit.
• The homeowners had to sign off on this layout that it not be used as a
second unit.
• Fire Marshall has decided that there is not enough room for turn
around so no parking signs have been installed in areas where these
Stoneybrook houses now exist with these detached garages.
• The CC & R's state that the cars are to be parked in the garage.
• If another family is brought in, where will they park?
Public comment was closed.
Commissioner Selich asked if facilities like this were allowed in Newport Coast?
Mr. Alford stated he would like time to check into this matter as well as Bonita
Canyon to see if there are any provisions for this use. I don't believe there is, but I
would like to check into it.
Commissioner Selich stated he is interested in this concept and if in the right
situation, looks like it could work. It does not have to be done on a citywide basis
and I believe it should be done in planned communities where there are strong
homeowner's associations and CC & R's to deal with it. I would like to see the
information on where it is allowed, how it works or does not work.
Commissioner McDaniel stated that he does not see any real need to make this
change and is opposed to it.
Commissioner Gifford stated that one of the conclusions we might come to is for a
planned community, but it needs to be looked at on a citywide basis. This idea of
having a guesthouse that is functional for visiting relatives etc., is part of a desire of
a lot of people for different reasons. I wonder if we should take a vote on this
tonight and if it does go to Council, they could direct staff to look at this on a
citywide basis.
Commissioner Kranzley agreed with the previous statements.
Commissioner Agajanian noted that there is no compelling reason to put a
second unit on an R -1 lot. I don't mind voting on this tonight and having the
Council direct us.
Chairperson Tucker noted his agreement with statements made by Commissioner
Selich. This type of request will fit in specified areas. I cannot see having this apply
broadly throughout the City. I am interested in research being done by the City
Attorney and suggest that the applicant have their legal counsel provide a lot of
that information because we keep our attorneys pretty busy and it is of greater
interest to the applicant than it is to the City. In terms of Mr. Cohen's comments,
on lots that this is being suggested on, it would strike me as odd that the owner
would move into the guest unit. The reason is that staff has suggested that there
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be a limit on the size of the guest cottage. It ought not to look like a single - family
residence; it should look like a guest cottage. It needs to be something that
serves that purpose. If it is enforceable that it cannot be rented and there is a
way to design that in, maybe it works. We need to get more information and
have further discussions on this with a full Commission. I think we ought to explore
it at our level.
Ms. Clauson added that the concept of the deed restriction or some sort of
condition would be not that the cottage could not be rented, but that the
cottage could not be rented separately from the front property. In other words, if
you are going to rent the property, it has to be the property as a whole. That
would eliminate the concern that the owner could rent out one or the other. The
only legal restriction that the City can have is the granny units, where you go by
an age restriction, but you can't say the only occupants can be caregivers or
family members, etc.
Commissioner Agajanian added that Newport Coast was brought into the City
and approved here with all the County's regulations. Everything is the County's.
We did not have any jurisdiction.
Commissioner Gifford noted she could not vote for this because it does not
conform to our Zoning Ordinance and therefore does not need any additional
information and would be prepared to vote no this evening. If the applicant
Wishes to appeal it, or on some other grounds that we are asked or staff is asked
to look at this on a broader basis, that is an entirely separate matter. I don't agree
with Commissioner Selich that we would not be initiating a policy decision if we
were to take this application and turn it into changes for the existing zoning
regulations. I would vote against a continuance.
Ms. Wood presented a letter opposing the proposal signed by Elaine and Jeff Lieb
with an attachment of a petition signed by twelve other homeowners. The
petition states that the petitioners are against the installation of independent
kitchen facilities with guest cottages that would function as residential second
units.
Motion was made by Commissioner Gifford to deny the request to amend the
Planned Community Development Plan Amendment No. 2001 -003.
Commissioner Kranzley noted that the original intent was a good idea. However,
this leaves it open for numerous abuses and creates issues that I don't want to
deal with.
Ayes: McDaniel, Agajanian, Gifford, Kranzley
Noes: Tucker, Selich
Excused: Kiser
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SUBJECT: Mortazavi Triplex (PA2001 -193)
1324 W. Balboa Boulevard
• (PA2001 -193)
Request for an addition and alteration of an existing nonconforming triplex. The
existing triplex is nonconforming due to the fact that it is located in the R -2 District
where two dwelling units are the maximum allowed. The triplex is also
nonconforming in that the property provides only three parking spaces where the
Zoning Ordniance requires a minimum of six spaces (2 per unit).
Ms. Wood reported that this item is to be continued, at the applicant's request, to
May 9, 2002.
Motion was made by Commissioner Kranzley to continue this item to May 9, 2002
as requested by the applicant.
Ayes:
McDaniel, Agajanian, Tucker, Gifford, Kranzley, Selich
Noes:
None
Excused:
Kiser
SUBJECT:
Brumbaugh Residence
201 Apolena Avenue
(PA2002 -001)
Request for a variance to exceed the established floor area limit and a
Modification Permit to encroach 15 feet into the required 20 -foot front yard setback;
7 feet into the 10 -foot rear yard setback; and 6 feet, 10 inches into the setback
along Apolena Avenue, for a new single-family dwelling.
Chairperson Tucker noted this involves two separate matters, one is a request for a
variance to exceed the established floor area limit and the second is a modification
permit to encroach 15 feet into the required 20 -foot front yard setback, which is on
Park Avenue, almost 7' into the Apolena setback and into the north and west
setbacks as well.
Todd Weber noted the additional letters that came in from the public, copies of
which were either faxed or left on the dais for you tonight.
Chairperson Tucker then explained that there are two actions, one to exceed the
floor area limit on the property that is determined by taking the lot boundaries and
subtracting out the setbacks and multiplying that by 1.5 plus 200 square feet. Where
all the lots in the neighborhood run east to west you mathmatically can end up with
quite a variation in the total buildable area of a lot that runs north to south. The
other major issue is a modification to determine how much of an encroachment
into the Apolena Avenue setback is appropriate.
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Mr. Edmonston clarified assertions made by the architect in his letter referencing
that the City Council reviewed this project last year and in one case indicates that
they approved it. All that was reviewed by the City Council was the relocation of
the driveway. The current driveway is on Apolena Avenue and the City Council
approved it to be relocated to Park Avenue. The Council did not look at any other
aspect of the project. Staff's concern during that time was parking. The relocation
of the driveway creates a parking space on Apolena Avenue and takes away a
parking space on Park Avenue. There was no impact on parking; it was approved
by the Council with the understanding that Park Avenue was the busier street.
Chairperson Tucker then explained that the variance will be dealt with during the
first part of the discussion and then the modificaiton. He then asked the applicant
to discuss the findings for a variance that the Planning Commission must determine.
Public comment was opened.
Ian Harrison, project architect stated:
• The lot is a very odd shape with no alley access.
• The lot had been divided in the 20's.
• The frontage on Park Avenue becomes a default 20 -foot setback.
• No Districting Map designation for that area.
• The applicant is looking for the same amount of buildable area as any other
lot on that street, percentage of lot area is about 1.07.
• This building will be similar to other buildings on Balboa Island.
• He has pulled back some massing on the project.
• Reverse frontage lot configuration came up because the side property has
to maintain a certain distance to the lots beyond that.
• Did not want to create a two story element next to Apolena Avenue, so I
pulled the building back.
• The existing building is built all the way to the sidewalk on Apoleno Avenue,
so I didn't think I was asking for that much of a setback.
Chairperson Tucker noted:
• This lot is 2,400 square feet in size.
• The typical lot in the area is 2,550 square feet in size.
• The typical lot in the area would have 2,720 square feet of gross floor area
allowed and this lot, which is almost the same size, would only have 1,625
square feet.
• The lot is not being treated in a similar fashion because of the Districting
Map.
Hall Sealey, 2833 Eostbluff Drive and owner of 1006 Park Avenue noted:
• Configuration of our cottage is similar to this project.
• Familiar with their setback difficulties.
• Stated his process with renovations he did on his property and drew
comparisons to the present project proposals.
• He then stated that he is concerned with the massing of the proposed
project.
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Philip Lugar, 1704 Park Avenue noted:
• When a buyer obtains a piece of property, they know full well what they are
allowed to do with that particular piece of property.
• By giving a variance, you will give them more than everybody else.
• The architect is good enough to do something creative.
• The findings for denial are sufficient.
• The property owner is afforded substantial property rights with his properly
and should not be treated differently than everybody else. He was
forenoticed of the size of the property.
• Mansionization and massing concern is coming up with GPAC and EQAC
groups and if you do not deny it at least continue it so that those committees
can deal with it.
Ad Katz, 1006 Park Avenue noted:
• Recognizes the applicant's need for a variance but states there is a bit of
overreaching going on.
• There will be an accident on Park Avenue due to all the garages and this
application will add one more.
Commissioner Gifford noted that the location of the garage is fixed regardless of the
size of the structure.
Mr. Edmonton clarified that the Council in September approved a curb cut there,
that is not to say it is guaranteed to be there. It is still subject to the overall design of
the property. Typically these requests come in later. In this case, the architect
processed that request prior to coming to the Planning Commission so that he
would have some assurance that he could proceed with the design that included
that. But, I don't think it is necessarily a guaranteed thing because he has gone to
the Council. If the constraints established on the lot result in a more desirable
product for him in the end to move the driveway back, then he could do that.
Commissioner McDaniel noted his opposition to the application. This lot was
purchased with the full knowledge of what could be built there. The value reflected
that. There can be substantial property rights and use of it with an acceptable
buildable area, which is much smaller than this. This proposal is out of proportion as
to what should /could be built on this lot. I think there is a number for a variance that
could fit very nicely on this piece of property, but to fill the entire lot, remove the light
from surrounding properties and cut the view corridors off, I am against. A smaller
variance could meet the findings.
Commissioner Kranzley, referring to page 6, noted the applicant could build a house
1,625 square feet and not come in for a variance. Staff is saying that using
reasonable setbacks, the applicant could build a house of 2,495 square feet with a
variance. Is there some number between 1,625 and 2,495 that you would not be
opposed to?
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Commissioenr McDaniel answered yes. The main concern is not retaining the 10
foot setback on Apolena. Something can be built.
Commissioner Kranzley stated that the setbacks that staff is using for reasonable
setbacks aren't necessarily the setbacks that the Commisison would approve under
the modification.
Chairperson Tucker noted that the discussion we are having is what is reasonable for
purposes of the floor area. We might come up with a computation of floor area
that is reasonable and come up with setbacks for placement of the house such that
you can't fit that floor area within the setbacks that we vote on.
Commissioner Agajanian noted:
• This is a lot of uncommon size that does require some sort of consideration.
To compare this to a typical lot is misleading. We need to make
comparisons of floor area ratios, they need to be made to similar comer
lots. Comparisons can not be made by saying we have a corner lot with
an unusual size and shape, but we want to develop the same floor area
ratio (FAR) as all the interior lots.
• By right, the floor area can be expanded by 50 %. To me that constitutes
the ability for the exercise of substantial property rights. I don't see the
need to build a much larger unit.
• 1 think this grants special privelege. When people purchase lots, they know
the price of the lot reflects the potential development of that lot. One can
not expect the free market to operate and then have a Commission such
as ours try to modify those kinds of market considerations. This lot is
complete with a house on it and has the opportunity for expansion for
further use. I don't see anything wrong with the current standards.
• 1 would be opposed to this variance as I can not make the findings.
Commissioner Selich noted that we have these unusual lots and the way we
calculate our floor area ratio (FAR) using the setbacks overly penalizes them. I can
support a variance for the FAR on the lot, but I can't support the amount of floor
area that the applicant has proposed. Referencing page 5 of the staff report, the
applicant is at a ratio of 1.076. 1 could support the 1.066, 1 think that brings it into
parity with other lots on Balboa Island. I could also support staff's determination of
1.039. From my standpoint anywhere within that range of 1.039 to 1.06, 1 would feel
comfortable supporting.
Chairperson Tucker noted his support of the reasonable setbacks standard that staff
has come up with, I would be willing to vote for that tonight.
Commissioner Kranzley noted he is struggling with the square footage issue. I would
like more information on the comparisons of similar lots.
Mr. Ian Harrison added that the typical corner lot (alley access, 30 x 85 foot lot) on
Balboa Island is treated like any interior lot, the setback for the sides is 3 feet, the rear
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feet. That is the same on the comer lot as on the interior lots.
Commisisoner Gifford noted that she could make the findings for a variance and
the reasonable setback is an appropriate way to calculate it.
Mr. Alford noted the standard setbacks in the R -1.5 District, the front is established by
the Districting Map and most of the lots are 40 feet or less in width so there are 3 foot
side yard setbacks. The rear setback is 10 feet.
Mr. Campbell added that with vehicular access to the alley, there will be a 5 foot
setback on the rear, which is the rationale for the reasonable setbacks in the staff
report. That is a typical rationale for all the lots shown on the Vicinity Map, the
regular lots on Balboa Island. The lots that are cut in half were done back in the 40's
or earlier and all have different setbacks. A lot of them are non - conforming and a
lot of them have variances.
Ms. Clauson added that the front yard setbacks are different all over the island,
some of them are 8, some 5, some 0, some 10. From street to street, they vary.
Commisisoner McDaniel noted that they are reasonably consistent street by street.
That is one of the reasons why this is a concern to me; the proposed setback on
Apolena moves the whole line.
Commissioner Agajanian asked if the FAR on an undivided comer lot is the same
FAR as the interior lot? Staff answered it should be identical.
Chairperson Tucker asked for a straw vote on the variance using the reasonable
setbacks and 2,495 square feet:
In support: Commissers Selich, Kranzley, Gifford and Tucker
Nor in support: Commissioners McDaniel, Agajanian
Chairperson Tucker noted that the majority of the Commission is willing to have 2,495
square feet; the question now is where that footage may go.
Commissioner Gifford noted her concerns under the reasonable setback theory:
That the five -foot rear setback is adjacent to the side of another house.
• The side yard setback issue particularly with the balcony that abuts the
other property to the left.
Mr. Ian Harrison added that if this were a conventional lot that went front to back
the alley to the street, the north (rear) property line would be a three -foot setback
and not be a five -foot setback. The fact that there are two separate homes on two
separate lots, there is quite a bit of open space between the front and back units. I
have put as much cutout on the building as possible. There is no sight line
impairment and I have made every effort to reduce the mass of the building to
make it conform to the context of a cottage. The driveway approval onto Park
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Avenue was for less traffic to be backing out onto a more residential street than
Apolena Avenue. The setbacks I tried to adhere to were as if it was a reversed
frontage lot, which addresses where the setbacks should be. I have tried to set the
building back as for as possible. The most restrictive setback of 20 feet is on Park
Avenue and cuts into the site to penalize the site the most.
Craig Page, 200 Opal spoke as president of the Balboa Island Improvement
Association noted his letter of April 2nd and summarized:
• The original plot of 1912 shows the two lots configured in the same manner
as the other corner lots on Balboa Island on Park Avenue, Coral Avenue
and Sapphire Avenue.
• They were full depth lots from Apolena Avenue to the alley.
• The existing cottage was built in 1924 across the front' /2 of those lots.
• Another home recently re -built was put on the rear ' /z of those lots.
• The area of those standard lots was quartered with the applicant's house
built on the front two quarters of the lot.
• Most building envelopes are pre - determined by setbacks required by the
Zoning regulations.
• The applicant wants to achieve the largest building envelope to allow the
largest home to be built on the lot.
• The lot was not designed as a reverse comer lot nor intended to be a
reverse corner lot.
• Balboa Island has small lots and small streets that are incompatible with
reverse corner lots.
• The intent should be to maintain the line of development, which on
Apolena Avenue is 10 feet as depicted on the District Map.
• The setback must be preserved to maintain the community character and
public view corridor.
• The existing line of development on Park Avenue should also be retained.
• Application of reasonable setbacks within the intent of the zoning
regulations will provide a building envelope that meets or exceeds the
expectations of the applicant and the community.
Del Chesboro, 1508 Park Avenue, President of Little Balboa Island Property Owners
Association noted:
• The Board is against allowing the concept of 'reverse frontage setback'.
• The setback on Apolena Avenue is 10 feet and is consistent with the
neighbors and is the intent of the rule.
• In review of past variances, no one has ever gone into the setback of the
main streets.
• Allowing this setback encroachment is precedent setting.
Bob Horgan, 202 Apolena Avenue noted his support of reducing the setback
because of the uniqueness of the lot. Due to the property configuration, they should
be allowed a side -yard setback on the east and the west and in the rear. The
precedent already exists to allow a setback on Apolena Avenue.
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Mr. Hall Sealey, 1006 Park Avenue noted his concern of the floor area ratio and the
mass of the structure. At Commission inquiry, he noted the setback on his property is
5 feet on Park Avenue, the interior property line setback is 3 feet and the alley is 5
feet.
Ad Katz, 1006 Park Avenue stated that the square footage the applicant is trying to
achieve is over- reaching. I am concerned with the encroachment into the
Apolena Avenue setback and it would set a precedent for the Island. I don't see
how a third story can be allowed with a 100 square foot indoor area. We support a
variance, but oppose the Apolena setback. Our floor area ratio is 0.91.
Public comment was closed.
Commissioner McDaniel noted:
• Hold on the 10 -foot setback on Apolena.
• A similar lot next door has 0.91 FAR that makes sense to me.
• They should get compatible use out of the property by maintaining the
above and probably more than I would want to give.
Commissioner Agajanian concurred with the previous statements and then asked
about the 5 -foot setback on Park Avenue that leads into a garage. Is there a
problem with people parking their cars blocking the sidewalk under this kind of
arrangement?
Mr. Edmonston answered generally not. What we find is that with a 5 -foot setback it
is short and any attempt to park there clearly blocks the sidewalk and most people
do not do that. If there is a 10 or 12 -foot setback, then there is a tendency to park in
the driveway. The approval that the Public Works forwarded to the City Council for
that driveway location did show a 5 -foot setback off Park Avenue. Looking at the
photos that Mr. Harrison submitted at that time, there are other properties that have
a less then 5 -foot setback. We would be opposed to that because it gets difficult for
the driver to see anybody coming until he is way out onto the sidewalk and into the
street. I would hope that if there were adjustments to setbacks that the five -foot on
Park Avenue is kept.
Commissioner Gifford noted she is okay with the Park Avenue setback. A 10 -foot
setback could be preserved for most of the Apolena Avenue line, if there was some
minimal incursion.
Commissioner Kranzley stated he would preserve the 10 -foot setback and is okay
with the 5 -foot Park Avenue setback and the 3 foot on the west and north sides.
Commissioner Selich noted he is okay on all the setbacks. Referring to the plot plan
exhibit he noted that on Apolena Avenue there are variable measurements. I do
empathize with Mr. Page's decision, I certainly would not want to see all of Apolena
have 3 -foot setbacks, some encroachment into that 10 foot setback would not be
bad if there is an off - setting area that creates more useable open space. In the
spirit of moving this item along, I could go along with the 10 feet, as that is the
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Chairperson Tucker stated that a certain degree of encroachment into the setback
along Apolena would be desirable. He noted his concern that the development
along that west side of Apolena is 10 feet just about all the way. I would agree that
there is some flexibility there, but I would like to see it remain 10 feet with some
interest. I am concerned that the square footage that we granted is going to end
up somewhere and we are going to have a 'boxier' product. The product that was
designed is pretty attractive and fits in well with the character of Balboa Island.
Continuing, Chairperson Tucker stated that we could handle the variance tonight
and have the modification go back to the Modifications Committee for
determination. That way maybe they could come up with something that would
make everybody happy. The rest of the Commission agreed.
Commissioner Gifford asked the architect if there was some way to make the
project set back more to allow for a slight variation on Apolena Avenue. Discussion
continued on possible realignments /improvements.
Commissioner Kranzley suggested that this be sent back to the Modifications
Committee for a settlement and to allow a dialogue between the applicant and
the people who are against this.
Chairperson Tucker agreed, noting that there would be an opportunity for discussion
at the Modifications Committee. The goal is having a more interesting structure at
the end of the block.
Motion was made by Chairperson Tucker to approve Variance No. 2002 -001 using
the reasonable setback approach that yields a total floor area of 2,495 square
feet and that we adopt a resolution with the conditions attached as exhibit A with
all references to a modification removed and refer Modification permit No. 2002-
032 to the Modifications Committee.
Ayes: Tucker, Gifford, Kranzley, Selich
Noes: McDaniel, Agajonian
Excused: Kiser
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS:
Additional Business
a) City Council Follow -up - Ms. Wood reported that at the City Council meeting
of March 26th the Council approved on first reading both the Camco and
the Pacific Republic applications; received a report from staff on the
professional services budget situation with the General Plan Update and on
the next agenda will have the traffic model consultant fiscal study.
b) Oral report from Planning Commission's representative to the Economic
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Development Committee - none.
C) Report from Planning Commission's representatives to the General Plan
Update Committee - Ms. Wood noted the discussion items were the scope
of services for the traffic model update and recommended that to the City
Council including the option that would have an origin and destination
study.
d) Report from Planning Commission's representative to the Local Coastal
Plan Update Committee - no meeting since the last report.
e) Matters that a Planning Commissioner would like staff to report on at a
subsequent meeting - Commissioner Selich would like a report on the
upkeep of the Shell station in Corona del Mar.
f) Matters that a Planning Commissioner may wish to place on a future
agenda for action and staff report - none.
g) Status report on Planning Commission requests - Mr. Edmonston reported
that the request for qualifications for the traffic signal study is being prepared
and will be sent out Monday the 8+h. The contract will be awarded in May or
the first meeting in June.
h) Project status - none.
1) Requests for excused absences - Commissioner McDaniel asked to be
excused from the next meeting of April 18th.
ADJOURNMENT: 9:15 P.M.
EARL MCDANIEL, SECRETARY
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
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