HomeMy WebLinkAbout02 - 11-28-00City Council Meeting
December 12, 2000
Agenda Item # 2
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
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Regular Meeting
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— Cancelled.
CLOSED SESSION — 6:30 p.m.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT PRESENTED — None.
RECESSED AND RECONVENED AT 7:00 P.M. FOR REGULAR MEETING
ROLL CALL
Present: Thomson, Glover, Adams, Debay, Ridgeway, O'Neil, Mayor Noyes
Absent: None
Pledge of Allegiance — Mayor Pro Tem Adams.
Invocation by Council Member Jan Debay.
Proclamation awarding special recognition to Sergeant James Kaminsky,
Officer Michael Pule, and the members of the Newport Beach Police
Department for their outstanding community policing efforts while
improving conditions in and around Talbert Park (contd. from 11/14/00).
Sergeant Kaminsky stated that the proclamation is important because it comes from
within the City and the Police Department. Officer Pule noted that they received a
lot of assistance from other entities and that he will let them know about this award.
Presentation Celebrating 80 Years of Library Service. Board of Library
Trustees Chairman, Patrick Bartolic, presented the City Council with two oversized
birthday cards and announced that they have a birthday cake available for everyone.
Trustees Walt Howald and Julie Ryan then provided historical information about
the library. Eileen Penan and daughter, Hayley, from the Central Library; James
Cantwell and sons, Sean, Ryan, and Michael, from the Balboa Branch; and Karen
Angus and daughter, Stephanie, from the Mariners Branch expressed their
appreciation for everything the library provides and for its helpful staff. Chairman
Bartolic thanked Council, staff, and the community for helping the City's library
become the third best library in the country out of 9,000 libraries.
CITY COUNCIL ANNOUNCEMENTS OR MATTERS WHICH COUNCIL
MEMBERS WOULD LIKE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR
DISCUSSION. ACTION OR REPORT (NON- DISCUSSION ITEM):
• Mayor Pro Tem Adams requested that, on December 12, 2000, Council
consider a proposed change to the General Plan Update Committee
membership to include an appointment from the Measure S campaign.
• Mayor Pro Tem Adams requested that Council consider the reformation of
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the City Council Finance Committee at the December 12 Council meeting.
CONSENT CALENDAR
READING OF MINUTES /ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
1. MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED REGULAR AND REGULAR
MEETING OF NOVEMBER 14, 2000. Waive reading of subject minutes,
approve as written and order filed.
2. READING OF ORDINANCES AND
full of all ordinances and resolutions
Clerk to read by title only.
RESOLUTIONS FOR ADOPTION
RESOLUTIONS. Waive reading in
under consideration, and direct City
3. MARINE AVENUE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT
RENEWAL CORRECTION TO ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTION OF
INTENTION. Adopt revised Resolution of Intention No. 2000 -96; rescind
Resolution No. 2000 -93; and introduce revised Ordinance No. 2000 -23 to
modify the Assessment District boundaries, to rename the Assessment
District, and confirm Intention to Levy.
4. FORMATION OF AD HOC TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMITTEE.
Adopt Resolution No. 2000 -97 creating the Ad Hoc Telecommunications
Committee.
ORDINANCES FOR ADOPTION
5. INCREASE IN ZONING PLAN CHECK STAFF AND CHARGES FOR
PLAN CHECK SERVICES. Adopt Ordinance No. 2000 -24 approving an
amendment to Chapter 3.36 of the NBMC pertaining to the recovery of costs
for Title 20 Plan Check.
6. ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 12.66 - PRIVATE ROADS, OF
THE NEWPORT BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE. Adopt Ordinance No.
2000 -25 amending Chapter 12.66 of the Newport Beach Municipal Code to
apply provisions of the California Vehicle Code to private roads in the
Baypointe Apartments Development and updating sections of Chapter 12.66.
CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS
7. 2000 -2001 SIDEWALK, CURB AND GUTTER REPLACEMENT,
CONTRACT NO. 3352 - BUDGET AMENDMENT. Approve a budget
amendment (BA -017) appropriating $8,000 from General Fund Balance 010-
3605 to 7013- C5100549 (2000 -2001 Sidewalk, Curb and Gutter
Replacement).
8. Removed at the request of Council Member Glover.
9. IRVINE RANCH WATER DISTRICT (IRWD) AGREEMENT. Rescind
earlier approval of agreement with IRWD relative to water and sewer service
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Res 2000 -96
Ord 2000 -12
Marine Avenue
BID /Assessment
District
(27)
Res 2000 -97
Telecommunications
Committee (24)
Ord 2000 -24
Zoning Plan Check
Staff & Plan Check
Charges (40/66)
Ord 2000 -25
Private Roads/
Baypointe
Apartments
(85)
BA -017
C -3352
Sidewalk, Curb &
Gutter Replacement
(38/40)
C -3330
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in the Newport Coast (Contract No. C -3330) and re- approve agreement at
the current meeting.
MISCELLANEOUS ACTIONS
10. REPLACEMENT OF FIRE ENGINES. Approve a budget amendment
(BA -019) for the purchase of three fire engines from American LaFrance at a
total cost of $957,424 and the transfer of $873,049 from the General Fund
Unappropriated Reserves to the Equipment Replacement Fund ($84,375 is
already included in the current budget for fire engine replacement). With
this transfer, all Reserve Funds policy requirements are still being met.
11. BUDGET AMENDMENT TO UPDATE THE CITY'S HAZARDOUS
MATERIALS AREA PLAN. Approve a budget amendment (BA -014) of
$10,000 from the General Fund balance for contract services to update the
City's Hazardous Materials Area Plan with $8,000 of the cost to be
reimbursed to the City by Hazardous Materials Emergency Planning
(HMEP) Grant approved by the Governor's Office of Emergency Services.
The total cost to the City for these services will be $2,000.
12. HUMAN SERVICES GRANTS FOR 2000 -2001. Authorize the
distribution of grants totaling $25,000 from Fund #010 -20. 0100 -8254 to
various Human Services organizations that serve the Newport Beach
community.
13. APPOINTMENT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AFFAIRS
CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE (EQAC). Removed from the
Consent Calendar.
City Manager Bludau noted that the recommendation in Item 3 (Marine
Avenue Business Improvement District) should be amended to also rescind
Resolution No. 2000 -93. Regarding Item 4 (Ad Hoc Telecommunications
Committee), he clarified that the Committee would operate under the Brown
Act and that the appropriate utilities will be notified of every meeting.
Additionally, he indicated that staff is requesting that Item 13, (Appointment
to EQAC) be removed from the Consent Calendar since that action is no
longer required due to the change in the EQAC provisions.
Motion by Mayor Pro Tern Adams to approve the Consent Calendar,
except for the item removed (8) and noting the change to Item 3, clarification
of Item 4, and removal from the calendar of Item 13.
The motion carried by the following roll call vote
Ayes: Thomson, Glover, Adams, Debay, Ridgeway, O'Neil, Mayor Noyes
Noes: None
Abstain: None
Absent: None
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
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Service in Newport
Coast (38)
BA -019
Replacement of
Fire Engines
(40/41)
BA -014
Hazardous
Materials
Area Plan
(40/41)
Human
Services
Grants
(40)
EQAC
Appointment
(24)
DOVER DRIVE WATER MAIN BREAK REPAIR - BUDGET I BA -018
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Council Member Glover stated that she pulled this item because it concerns
an emergency expenditure of $155,000 to repair the 30 -inch water main
break and pavement replacement in Dover Drive between Cliff Drive and
West Coast Highway. She reported that the City has very good staff and
commended staff on how this was handled and repaired, and how quickly
staff responded. She expressed hope that the citizens understand and
appreciate what good staff the City has and added that she was only without
water for 45 minutes.
Motion by Council Member Glover to 1) approve the emergency
expenditure of $155,000 to repair the 30 -inch water main break and
pavement replacement in Dover Drive between Cliff Drive and West Coast
Highway; and 2) authorize a budget amendment (BA -018) appropriating
$155,000 from the Water System Reserve Fund Account Balance to Water
Fund Account 5500 -8160 (Maintenance and Repair Materials) for the Dover
Drive water main and pavement repair.
Council Member Ridgeway stated that he visited the site 16 hours after the
break and commended staff for handling the matter expeditiously and
professionally.
The motion carried by the following roll call vote:
Ayes: Thomson, Glover, Adams, Debay, Ridgeway, O'Neil, Mayor Noyes
Noes: None
Abstain: None
Absent: None
14. JWA SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT - PROPOSED EXTENSION.
Mayor Noyes stated that the City asked the County Board of Supervisors at
their last meeting to approve the start of the process that would extend the
John Wayne Airport (JWA) Settlement Agreement. He reported that two
Supervisors voted in favor of the proposal and two Supervisors wanted more
time to study the proposal. He indicated that the City has been meeting on
this issue for over a year with other cities, including South County cities,
and that they developed dialogue that does not take El Toro off the table.
However, in talking with South County, they understand that the City sees
E1 Toro as an option even though they think there are other options. He
reported that part of the City's strategy was to bring the settlement
agreement extension to the Board after the election so that this issue would
not get inflamed in the news and would not become an election issue
amongst those trying to get elected into city councils throughout the County.
He indicated that Supervisor Tom Wilson brought this forward and that this
will be brought back to the Board on December 5, adding that he feels
confident that this will get four or five votes to begin the process. He
indicated that they would like to have five votes because the City felt it
would have the most aggressive ability to withstand any attacks by the FAA,
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airlines, or any other party. He reported that the City is going to ask the
County to cooperate with the City in preparing an environmental document.
He emphasized that, even if the Board votes in favor of the City's proposal, it
does not give the City an instant settlement agreement extension, but does
put the City into a year long process of trying to develop the environmental
document. Mayor Noyes noted that the settlement agreement has been in
place for about 20 years. He added that the City does not have the ultimate
protection even with the agreement being extended to 2025, noting that the
agreement could be challenged as air traffic demands increase in the County.
He stated that the City needs to keep an eye on developing an alternative to
JWA and emphasized that it is imperative that the City work with all the
players in the County and the stakeholders. He noted that where the City
goes with this is somewhat uncertain; however, this Council believes that it
is time to begin that process.
Mayor Noyes explained that the purpose of this agenda item is to try to
explain what is going on, the process, and what Council has been doing
about this. He reported that Council Policy A -17, which has been around for
27 years, requires Council to aggressively try to maintain the JWA
restrictions while, at the same time, try to develop an alternate site. He
stated that, at the Board meeting, Supervisor Todd Spitzer asked the City if
it will accept some language that takes away the City's resolve to look for an
alternative site. He indicated that the City said they would absolutely not
stop looking.
Council Member O'Neil indicated that people from the Airport Working
Group (AWG) are in attendance tonight and noted that they are the
grassroots airport organization that has led the way in the City in trying to
make sure that JWA does not expand, while at the same time, pursuing the
construction of an airport at E1 Toro. He noted that the E1 Toro effort has
had a setback with the passage of Measure F; however, that is in litigation at
this time. He pointed out that the City trying to extend the settlement
agreement is a separate issue from the El Toro issue, and that this is how
the City presented it to the Board. He explained that this was done because
the El Toro issue is somewhat outside of the jurisdiction of the City Council
and under the control of the Land Reuse Authority, which is the Board of
Supervisors. Further, the City does have control over the extension of the
settlement agreement because the City is a party to that agreement, along
with AWG and Stop Polluting Our Newport (SPON). He stated that, if the
City is successful next Tuesday before the Board, it would probably be
appropriate for the City to reengage with AWG and SPON in further
discussions to make sure that the process in extending the settlement
agreement takes into account all of their concerns, as well as the City's
concerns.
Council Member Glover reported that she, Mayor Noyes, and Council
Member O'Neil have been working on this; have met with the Board and
South County cities; and feel they would like to get support from everyone in
the County for the extension of the JWA Settlement Agreement. She
reiterated that the City deliberately tried not to tie this to El Toro and
pointed out that it is written in the General Plan that Council will support
an airport at El Toro and try to make that a reality. Further, it is also
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written in the General Plan that the City will seek an extension of the JWA
Settlement Agreement. She emphasized that their first goal is to protect the
people of Newport Beach and noted that Council has spent a lot of money on
the El Toro effort. She stated that the City will be concentrating on the
settlement agreement and trying to get that extension. She indicated that
the El Toro effort has not been taken off the table, but the Council and many
citizens feel that the City also needs the protection of the JWA Settlement
Agreement. She stated that, just as South County cities are trying to protect
their citizens, the City is trying to protect its citizens by limiting the number
of planes that fly over the City, by not having the flying caps removed, and
by trying to control the noise. She expressed the opinion that the present
Council is very dedicated to seeing that the City is protected and that getting
the agreement extension is one of the best ways of doing this.
Mayor Noyes clarified that the extension the City is looking for is for an
additional 20 years on the existing agreement which expires in 2005. He
noted that it has taken a year just to get Supervisor Wilson in a frame of
mind to carry this before the Board.
Barbara Lichman, Executive Director of the Airport Working Group of
Orange County, 1320 Mariners Drive, stated that AWG is in favor of the
extension of the settlement agreement. She expressed their concern relative
to the resolution that has been offered to the Board and whether it is
politically acceptable and legally enforceable. She indicated that AWG is
concerned that the resolution was passed without consultation with the
other signatories to the settlement agreement. Further, she expressed
concern that the new Council has not been brought into this process since
any action the current Council takes now can be rescinded or changed by the
future Council. Noting that the resolution asks the Board to cooperate with
the City to commence an environmental review process, she pointed out that
there must be a project in order to have an environmental review process
and that the resolution does not specify a project. She indicated that if the
project is the current restrictions as they stand today, then they do not
understand why Council cannot simply ask the Board to confirm an
extension of the current restrictions and then perform the environmental
review. However, if it is a different set of restrictions or a different project,
she noted that AWG and SPON, among others, must be brought into the
process of developing those restrictions.
Ms. Lichman believed that, as an airport attorney, the extension agreement
would be challenged because JWA is not a local issue, but a national issue.
She explained that JWA is part of the National Air Transportation System
and any caps imposed at JWA will be a precedent for every other airport in
the nation. She reported that the challenge could be avoided by bringing
other interested parties to the table, including the airlines, to define the
project that is to be reviewed. She believed that this has not been challenged
to date because, from 1985 to 1990, terminal facility constraints prevented
an interstate commerce clause challenge; and, from 1990 to 1994, there was
a recession and the economic pressures did not exist. She indicated that it
has only been since 1995 that greater demands have existed that will cause
the interested parties to have a problem with the unilateral imposition of
caps. Ms. Lichman stated that AWG is somewhat concerned that a year's
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worth of discussion has gone on with South County cities, who are a non-
party in this issue, while the stakeholders in the City have not been
consulted. She requested that AWG be immediately involved in all actions
relative to the extension since they are one of the drafters of the original
settlement agreement.
City Attorney Burnham clarified that the resolution did include a draft
project description that assumes the 20 year extension would be on the same
terms and conditions the airport currently operates under. Further, it
allows for minor expansion of the retail space in the terminal area. This was
recently approved by both AWG and Council. Aside from that, he stated that
the project description assumes status quo for a period of 20 years after the
expiration of the current term. Regarding Ms. Lichman's statement that
there are no terminal or airfield constraints on operations at JWA, he
clarified that it is a small facility with 14 gates and restrictions are imposed
by the settlement agreement through the practice of hard - standing. He
added that he believes JWA is still a very constrained facility. Further, he
slightly disagreed with Ms. Lichman, reporting that the settlement
agreement is one of very few restrictions grandfathered by the Airport Noise
and Capacity Act (ANCA). An extension of this agreement, which is
specifically authorized by ANCA under certain terms and conditions, will set
the kind of precedent that will scare other airports or air carriers.
Bruce Nestande, 119 Via Jucar, stated that he is a resident and President of
Citizens for Jobs and the Economy (CJ &E). He thanked Council for its
dedicated effort over the years to provide air transportation services in
Orange County and to provide the protection for the citizens through the
settlement agreement. Additionally, he thanked them for their dedication to
try to find a second airport site in Orange County, mainly in El Toro, and
expressed support in extending the settlement agreement. He stated that
what is said by South County cities in private is sometimes different than
what is said in public and believed that they have not spent $40 million to
protect the interests in Newport Beach, adding that Measure S dramatized
the concern of citizens regarding surface transportation. He believed that
the expansion of JWA would be catastrophic to the City and no one that is
serious on the issue can believe that South County politicians do not have a
JWA expansion as an option to serve the needs of Orange County residents,
especially since they are on record stating this.
Since the passage of Measure A, Mr. Nestande stated that CJ &E has
supported the passage of five primary propositions, noting that Measure A
contains a dual airport system in Orange County. Even though, CJ &E
supports the extension of the settlement agreement, they recognize that the
ultimate protection for the City is a dual airport system, specifically an El
Toro airport. He stated that the settlement agreement is a legal document
that will be challenged in court. If this is lost, the City's protection is lost,
adding that losing El Toro as an option is to forever surrender the
opportunity to have an airport at El Toro for air transportation services.
Mr. Nestande stated that when he was on the Board in 1985 it was observed
that JWA could not handle all of Orange County's needs and that the County
needed a second airport. He reported that a second airport site did not exist
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in Orange County outside of El Toro, which was still a Marine Corp air base
in 1985. He stated that CJ &E supports fairness in this issue concerning
airport facilities in Orange County; supports the settlement agreement
which will maintain JWA at about 8.5 million annual passengers; and they
support E1 Toro having about 14 and 18 million annual passengers. He
explained that, if JWA can handle 8.5 million passengers on its 500 acres, El
Toro can handle 14 to 18 million passengers on its 4,500 acres and 13,000
acre no -home zone. He expressed the opinion that this is fair to the South
County neighbors since Newport Beach is handling its fair share. Lastly, he
stated that El Toro could be lost if the 3 to 2 majority vote on the Board is
lost; if Measure A is repealed; if the wrong members make up LAFCO; and if
a majority is lost on the Airport Land Use Commission which decides land
use around airports. Regarding other options, he stated that he does not
know of any other option that exists which would protect Newport Beach
other than placing an airport at El Toro.
Ann Watt, 20261 Spruce Avenue, utilized a PowerPoint presentation that
she entitled "The John Wayne Airport Strategic Plan" because she was
assuming there was a strategy although she is not sure what strategy the
City is using. She indicated that she also does not understand why the City
would go to the Board who does not have the authority to keep the caps on
JWA. She believed that the vision statement for the entire County should be
"to develop an air transportation system that meets the needs of Orange
County and maintains the quality of life for all citizens" and indicated that
this has been the City's goal. She expressed the opinion that going to the
Board gives the South County cities the wrong signal that it is okay for them
to expand their airport, but the City's airport should be kept small. She
indicated that the Southern California Association of Governments project
that 20 to 30 million passengers will be traveling in and out of Orange
County in the next 20 years. She emphasized that JWA cannot meet this
demand without condemnation of residents and businesses, and believed
that the solution is to use JWA and El Toro jointly to meet that demand.
She emphasized that Measure F does not and will not protect Newport
Beach, stating that Council failed to educate the residents about its impacts.
Regarding extending the caps at JWA, she guaranteed that residents do not
know what the caps are and questioned why Council is waiting to see if the
caps worked. She challenged the airlines to reject it now so that the City can
take them to court to see if the caps even have any weight. Ms. Watt stated
that the City has to keep E1 Toro on the agenda. She noted that South
County cities should not feel too complacent since the Federal government,
who regulates interstate commerce, still owns that piece of property. Once
this is recognized, she believed there can be an airport at El Toro that does
not fly over any businesses, homes, or schools. She suggested that Council
recommend that the Board fund alternative plans.
Charles Griffin, 732 Bison Avenue, believed that Council should continue its
efforts and commended them for getting Supervisor Wilson to place the
settlement agreement on their agenda. He believed that this can be done
with a negative declaration since there is no change, which means there is
no impact on the environment. He reported that there is a new technology
called Global Positioning Navigation that will have a tremendous impact on
the capability of coming into El Toro from the north. He utilized slides to
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show residential areas and schools in relation to JWA and El Toro, clarifying
that there are actually more than 30,000 acres of open space at El Toro that
is available and undeveloped. He reported that the FAA has a new web site
for the public's education (http: / /gps.faa.gov) to help them understand GPS
and how that will replace all navigation systems in the aviation industry.
He indicated that it is usable now but will be up and running in five years.
He reported that the runway that was extended this year at JWA is no
longer just a stopway, but is now a runway that can be used for a larger
aircraft. He emphasized that the City needs the settlement agreement to
prevent that from happening and the City needs the cap because the larger
aircrafts will be exempt. Mr. Griffin confirmed that Congress did give the
City the grandfathered clause (Part 166) for the settlement agreement, but
they can also take that away since they have control of interstate commerce.
He added that the Board can also take the clause away and expressed the
importance of working with the Board. He emphasized that Council needs to
point out that GPS is the answer to utilize El Toro in a quiet way.
Russ Niewiarowski, 20102 Kline Drive, Santa Ana Heights, stated that one
of the most important things for the Orange County airport issue is to look
at options, keep the options open, and bring all the correct players to the
table. He indicated that one of the options is the V Plan (Wildland Ranch
Plan), which is the most logical option for JWA. He invited everyone to a
CAC meeting this Thursday to learn more about the V Plan. Regarding
Irvine wanting to build at the end of the runways, he stated that there is
virtually nothing in that three mile wide open space except one potential
block (Planning Area 17). He believed that the options need to be kept open
and some money needs to be put into litigation to challenge the EIR for PA
17 and stall that development. He reported that PA 18 was abandoned
which means it is an open door for the Phase 1 flight path which cuts the
corner of Laguna Hills. To go up that area correctly means that the second
runway directly over PA 17 needs to be utilized. He encouraged everyone to
keep the options open and support the condemnation of PA 17.
Karen Everts, 426 Piazza Lido, asked that everyone consider what it means
to protect the City. She relayed a story about her return trip from Denver
into JWA on a crippled airline and reported that the Captain told the
passengers that "there was no way we can land at John Wayne." She
believed that the plane needed a longer runway than what JWA could
provide. She stated that she lives within JWA's takeoff pattern and
emphasized that she does not want a longer runway there. She indicated
that, in order for the County to progress, it needs an operable runway that is
long enough so that a crippled airliner can land. She stated that the City
should not go soft on El Toro because everyone needs it, but hoped that
people do not think JWA fine in its current state.
Council Member O'Neil stated that he understands there has been
statements in the press and maybe tonight about El Toro; however, he
indicated that he does not recall that any member of Council has ever said
anything that would give anybody the idea that the City is going soft on El
Toro. He emphasized that Council will not give up on that option as the
ultimate solution to the need to provide air transportation and cargo needs
for this region. He asked if anyone has a problem with an effort to initiate
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the process that would extend the settlement agreement four years before
the original agreement expires. He clarified that the extended settlement
agreement effort would keep the limitations at JWA in place as they are
today. Ms. Everts noted the politics in South County in which three
Supervisors are opposed to the City's effort. Council Member O'Neil pointed
out that an El Toro airport would take many years to build and reiterated
that the City has only four years to protect itself. Regarding lengthening a
runway, Council Member O'Neil reported that they do not want to expand
JWA. Ms. Everts reiterated her concern that the County does not have an
airport in which a crippled airline can land, but preferred that it be at
El Toro.
Dan Purcell, 508 Poinsettia, stated that South County cities, Irvine in
particular, do not want El Toro developed and will do anything they can to
stop that from happening. He indicated that the City is doing its fair share
and has a regional airport; however, the #1 option in the minds of people in
Irvine and South County is to expand JWA. He stated that this is what is
going to happen and, if the City allows them to start building anywhere
around the airfield in El Toro, that option will be eliminated. He expressed
the opinion that negotiating with the South County will close the door to E1
Toro if the City concedes or joins them in any other alternative plan.
Council Member O'Neil emphasized that this will not happen. Mr. Purcell
indicated that the only other option will be to expand JWA. He stated that it
would be more appropriate for the City to get the airlines on its aide, look at
some of the interstate commerce issues, and look at the options at El Toro.
He noted that he is not involved in the process but suspects that the City is
making concessions. Council Member O'Neil emphasized that there are no
concessions. He added that the City is not working with South County on
anything; however, the City is trying to get the settlement agreement
extended by the Board of Supervisors and is asking them to initiate the
process. He also pointed out that the City does not have to negotiate with
South County cities because they are not part of the settlement agreement.
Mayor Noyes clarified that the agreement will actually expire in five years,
not four years.
Joe Stasch, 1952 Vista Caudal, took issue with Council Member O'Neil,
stating that the newspaper says that he is negotiating with South County
cities. Mayor Noyes pointed out that Council meets with South County
representatives weekly in different organizations like the Southern
California Association of Governments (SCAG) and the League of California
Cities (LCC). Mr. Stasch thanked Council for rejecting Supervisor Spitzer's
offer and urged Council to continue strong support for an airport at El Toro.
He indicated that, if this effort fails, JWA will carry the entire burden for air
travel in the County. He noted that South County officials have publicly
stated on many occasions that JWA can handle twice the current passenger
traffic without even moving the perimeter fence. He stated that their
agenda has not changed and their offer of help rings hollow to him. He
expressed his support for the efforts to extend the caps at JWA; however, he
believed this is a long shot. He pointed out that the City not only needs the
Board's support, but the City needs the support of the airline companies, the
Interstate Commerce Commission, and Congress.
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Shirley Conger, P.O. Box 111, Corona del Mar, expressed her support of the
City's request for a cap on the number of passengers that are allowed to fly
out of JWA. She reported that, without the cap, the number of passengers
allowed out of JWA will double and then triple because of the increase in
national passenger and air cargo traffic. She indicated that Newport Beach's
environment will be severely damaged and the City will be unrecognizable if
the increases happen at JWA. She stated that, although the City would like
to have the cap, the citizens know that the City has to work with Congress,
the signatories, the airlines, FAA, environmental groups, and surrounding
cities in order to get it. She noted that she is glad we have five years to work
on this because it is certainly a long term project.
Ms. Conger stated that she doubts that Supervisor Spitzer is in favor of a cap
since he mentioned extending the runways at JWA to the San Diego
Freeway and putting in a bridge over the San Diego Freeway in order to
reduce noise. She expressed concern that one of the result of pursuing this
cap is that Newport Beach residents will be dulled into a false sense of
security that the cap will hold and keep the passenger loads down at JWA.
Council Member O'Neil asked what Ms. Conger suggests the City should do,
noting that Council is on the City's side, is representing the citizens, and is
doing what is in the best interest of the citizens. He indicated that it
disturbs him that people are coming to the podium and thinking that Council
is cutting some type of secret deal, negotiating away El Toro, or allowing
JWA to expand. He stated that he cannot understand why citizens are not
coming to Council thanking them, supporting them, and encouraging them
to move. Ms. Conger stated that the people she has spoken with are
unaware and believe that the cap can go on. She believed that the City
should pursue commissioning El Toro and does not have a criticism with
Council pursuing the cap at JWA. She also pointed out that El Toro already
has an existing airport and that we should go ahead and turn the lights on
right now.
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Mayor Noyes indicated that the Board is currently traumatized by the El
Toro fight. He stated that they will be going before the Board, emphasizing
the quality of life issue for the City and County, and asking that the Board,
as the leaders of the County, get together and address this issue. This would
prove to the other cities in Orange County that they will stand up for quality
of life and that they will work together. He believed that this would advance
an airport at El Toro because they may be more believable when they try to
put this airport in South County. He pointed out that they need to build
credibility that they are there for quality of life and will protect the quality of
life in South County. He noted that he does not want to think of South
County as his enemies since he has colleagues and friends in that area, even
though they totally disagree about the El Toro issue. He reported that they
do not even want to talk about having a starter airport at El Toro the size of
JWA because they do not trust their local, State, or Federal governments.
He emphasized that there is more to it than just El Toro and the cap at JWA,
noting that there is an opportunity here to work with the County to try to
come up with some type of long range resolution. He assured that Council is
trying to find some real answers to this problem.
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Aaron Elder stated that he was a resident of Newport Beach for 20 years,
but now lives in Costa Mesa. He indicated that South County has been
publicly saying that there is not enough air transportation demand in
Orange County to warrant building an airport at El Toro. Further, if the
City so easily secures a cap on flights in and out of Orange County, he
believed that it would play against the area. He believed that South
County's next statement will be that they told us that there was so little
demand that the airlines do not want to fly more planes in and out of Orange
County at JWA. He stated that the City should wait until they have more of
an idea of where JWA will be going and an idea of whether El Toro should
become a reality before it starts pressing for an issue that can be used
against the City public relations -wise.
Ralph Morgan, 206 East 15th Street, Costa Mesa, noted that he has lived in
Newport Heights for 17 years and lived in Corona del Mar for 28 years. He
stated that all four of his sons live in Costa Mesa and one of them lives
within 250 yards of the end of the airport. He indicated that they have
enjoyed their quality of life the last 42 years but knows that a JWA
expansion will wipe out a large part of East Costa Mesa. He requested
Council help to convince the new Costa Mesa Council Members of what the
impact will be on Costa Mesa citizens, noting that two of the new members
are employed or closely tied to the City of Irvine. He emphasized that the
citizens of Irvine will not be impacted at all by the building of an airport at
El Toro since they are not in the noise zone.
Mayor Noyes read a title from a November 9 resolution from the City of
Costa Mesa asking the Orange County Board of Supervisors to support, in
concept, the designation of the City of Newport Beach as the lead agency in
preparing an environmental document to evaluate the impacts of an
extension of the JWA settlement agreement.
Allan Beek thanked Council and expressed his support for what they are
doing, and encouraged them to do more of it.
Derek Gleeson, Santa Ana Heights, praised Council for being great citizens
of the City and stated that Council is doing a great job. He indicated that he
was at the Board meeting and expressed the opinion that Supervisor Spitzer
does not want to try to communicate or find a solution to help the citizens.
He noted that Santa Ana Heights residents have taken as much of the brunt
of the noise as Newport Beach residents and have not really been
represented well. He suggested that all revenue from JWA be shared with
residents who are affected by the noise; that the airlines be told that they
cannot fly out of JWA if they use Stage 4 jets in the year 2005; and that the
Los Alamitos Navy Air Station be opened. He indicated that Los Alamitos
and Cypress should also be on notice that the Navy Air Station is the other
location in which an airport can be built if El Toro does not happen.
Mayor Noyes pointed out that everyone is arguing amongst themselves
about how to go forward, but indicated that the City would like to get into a
position where it can argue with people like the County and other cities.
Regarding Ms. Liebman's previous statements, he reported that AWG told
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Council six months ago to not pursue the settlement agreement extension
and that they would not cooperate with the City. He asked why the City
would call them after that and indicated that the City then proceeded to try
to put the deal together.
Ms. Lichman stated that at the April 2000 meeting AWG informed Council
that they were in favor of an extension of the settlement agreement but it
was the wrong time. She explained that their reason was that they had just
lost Measure F, and felt they needed to step back and consider all options
before moving forward. Since April, she stated that they have not received a
phone call, document, or any form of consultation regarding this. She
further stated that they never told Council that they were not going to
support them, and indicated that they would be happy to cooperate if
Council would like to bring them into this in order to come to the end
desired. Mayor Noyes stated that they are trying to create an opportunity in
which AWG can become involved with all the other parties. He indicated
that over the last five years the City has made a lot of decisions in the
backroom with AWG, CJ &E, and Council but now everyone in the City needs
to know what is being done and have all the meetings out in the open to talk
this out. He emphasized that the City needs direction from the citizens and
asked where does it leave the City if it does not get an airport at El Toro.
Ms. Liebman stated that AWG has a strategy, but the City never asked them
for it. She asked what has been going on the last year, noting that she has
never participated in a backroom deal with Council for any purpose. She
asked if a meeting can be set in which the relevant parties are present to
discuss the problems and the terms that ought to be taken to the Board. She
also asked if this could be done without rushing it through before a new
Council is reorganized. She added that AWG thinks they can help Council.
Regarding going to the Board on December 5, Ms. Lichman stated that once
the process is started, Council has set a goal in which the relevant parties
had no part. She believed that the process needs to be started with the
relevant parties rather than without them. Mayor Noyes stated that AWG
should welcome the opportunity to address the Board with the City and ask
for the proposal to move forward. He noted that the proposal is general in
nature and that he is now sensing the same resistance he found during
many meetings with her. Ms. Lichman indicated that they are resisting
what they believe to be a less than complete effort. Further, she is
convinced, on her experience as an airport lawyer for 10 cities around the
nation, that they will face virulent opposition from interested parties unless
they are brought to the table. She indicated that someone from one of those
parties had dinner with her a month ago and told her that he would work
with them to bring about the caps at JWA but would not have them dictated
to him.
Ms. Lichman further disagreed with the City Attorney that ANCA contains a
grandfather provision for an extension to a settlement agreement, but
indicated that it does contain an explicit provision that applies to JWA. She
reiterated that a process needs to be brought to the people that will include
interested parties and that this is why AWG is having a problem with this.
She stated that the City is dreaming if it thinks it is going to get the same
restrictions imposed on JWA. She believed that this will be a process of
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negotiations that will take up to the day the settlement agreement expires.
Regarding getting started, she stated that AWG wants this to go before the
Board when the new Council is seated.
Council Member Glover stated that she is Chair of the Aviation Committee
and that AWG does have a representative that sits on that Committee. She
pointed out that this has been talked about and the resolution was adopted.
Further, she and the City Attorney try to keep the Committee up to date on
what the subcommittee is doing. She stated that it is up to the AWG
representative to take that resolution back to AWG.
Council Member O'Neil stated that Ms. Liebman has offered to work with
the City and that she has knowledge and expertise in these types of matters.
Further, it is relevant to have the new Council Members involved in this
process as the City proceeds in this endeavor and probably also the airlines
and other interested stakeholders. He believed this can happen even if the
present Council initiates a process on December 5 with the Board,
emphasizing that the proposal merely states that Newport Beach will be the
lead agency. He also reminded everyone that this process will go on for an
extended period of time and will involve the new City Council. He indicated
that, if AWG is saying they will not be supporting the City on December 5,
he is not sure if that effort will be successful since AWG is a significant
factor in the whole airport issue in the City and have been for many years.
Mayor Pro Tem Adams stated that the Aviation Committee is the proper
forum for these discussions and is exactly why the Committee was set up.
He reported that the Committee is comprised of a wide representation of the
City and includes the AWG President. He indicated that these discussions
have taken place at the Aviation Committee over time and is not brand new
information to the public. He pointed out that, however the City proceeds
from here, the Committee needs to play its proper role and that, by tonight's
discussions, it has not been used properly.
Council Member Ridgeway stated that he will commit that he will be
inclusive of the public's involvement to the best of his ability and believed
that all Council will agree to this. He expressed hope that everyone can
meet at the Board meeting on December 5 to get the vote that the City is
looking for. He stated that he thinks that there has been some exclusion;
however, he expressed the opinion that it isAnconceivable that people did not
have knowledge of what was happening. He stated that everyone should
move forward with an inclusive process and negotiate together on a common
cause. He noted that Ms. Lichman stated that they are supportive of
extending the settlement agreement but just wants to be included.
Mayor Noyes reiterated that it has taken the City awhile to get Supervisor
Wilson in a frame of mind to carry this issue for the City. He stated that it
was Council's intent tonight to give everyone an explanation of what Council
has been doing and what the goals are as the policy makers of the City. He
indicated that they are trying to proceed with what they think is a good
policy for the citizens and are trying to act on what people have told them
and asked them to do. He expressed hope that AWG would help the City in
that endeavor. He emphasized that the City just wants to get started on this
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process because it is going to take a long time. He expressed the opinion
that, by proceeding on December 5, people think this will be some kind of
dooms day scenario. He pointed out that the first process is to have
meetings and expressed the opinion that the December 5 meeting seems to
be a reasonable approach since the Board meeting is before the City now.
Noting that he does not have a copy of the proposed resolution before him,
Mayor Pro Tem Adams stated that it is his recollection that this is an
initiation of a process and that there is a lot of latitude in it. Further, it does
not preclude the City from changing tact at some point if all the parties
agree that changing tact is what is needed. It also does not prohibit the City
from going back before the Board to revise the resolution. He stated that, if
the new City Council feels this is required, it can be done. However, he
added that it would be nice to get the ball rolling as long as the City is not
backing itself into a corner, which he does not see that happening here.
Regarding cutting deals, Mayor Noyes clarified that this Council or any
member of Council cannot bind a future Council to any agreement. He
pointed out that tonight showed that this issue is a really difficult,
complicated, emotional debate, especially since we are debating amongst
ourselves as enemies. He asked how well the City will operate with people
who the City really perceives as enemies. He emphasized that dialogue
needs to be opened.
15. GREENLIGHT GUIDELINES WORKING GROUP.
City Manager Bludau stated that the City Council, at their meeting of
November 14, 2000, directed staff to provide a report that addressed the
possible need for interpretation of the Greenlight measure and suggestions
for the composition of an ad hoc committee. He added that the City Council
also requested that any decisions regarding the ad hoc committee not be
made until the new council members were sworn in on December 12, 2000.
City Manager Bludau read from the text of the Greenlight measure with
regards to the adoption of the guidelines. It is required that the guidelines
be consistent with the purpose and intent of the measure and not be adopted
until after public notice and hearing requirements. It also requires that the
guidelines be approved by not less than six council members. City Manager
Bludau stated that these requirements are consistent with all measures
passed by the voters. He stated that the intent of the voters is generally
determined by reference to the text, purpose and context of the measure.
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City Manager Bludau stated that a couple of terms in the measure need to
be clearly defined, and include "floor area" and "peak hour trips ". He added
that an interpretation of when the "preceding ten years" would begin also
needs to be made. City Manager Bludau suggested that the ad hoc
committee be comprised of two members of the City Council, and
representatives from the Planning Commission, the Environmental Quality
Affairs Citizens Advisory Committee (EQAC), the Economic Development
Committee (EDC), the Aviation Committee and proponents of the measure.
He stated that staff would serve as a resource to the working group.
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Council Member Debay thought she recalled that it was also discussed to
include the Chamber of Commerce in the committee.
Council Member Ridgeway stated that he received a letter from the Building
Industry Association (BIA) and a request from the Chamber of Commerce,
both asking to be represented on the ad hoc committee. He suggested that
these requests be included in the staff report for the meeting of
December 12, 2000.
Council Member Ridgeway asked how many measure proponents staff is
recommending be on the ad hoc committee. City Manager Bludau stated
that he and the City Attorney did not want to provide the City Council with
actual numbers, but feel that too large of a committee won't be as productive.
He suggested that fifteen total members should probably not be exceeded.
Council Member Debay stated that she understands wanting to keep the
number down, but requested that no interested organization be left out. City
Manager Bludau added that the meetings would also be open to the public.
Council Member Thomson suggested that there be an odd number of
members.
Council Member Debay suggested that a public information officer be
involved with the process, so that accurate information reaches the public.
Mayor Pro Tem Adams suggested that the numbers could include two
council members, two Planning Commission members, one EQAC member,
one EDC member, one Aviation Committee member, four proponents, one
BIA representative and one Chamber of Commerce representative. He
stated that this would form a committee consisting of thirteen members.
Mayor Pro Tem Adams additionally suggested that the committee itself
select the Chairman of the committee.
Council Member Ridgeway stated that he doesn't feel that the guidelines will
be that difficult to develop.
Council Member Glover asked for an explanation of the intended purpose for
developing the guidelines. City Attorney Burnham stated that some of the
terms in the measure need to be defined. He stated that this will help staff
in administering the measure and deciding when projects require voter
approval. He stated that staff also needs guidelines on when the ten -year
accumulation period begins.
Council Member Glover stated her concern about the ad hoc committee being
able to accurately interpret what the voters intended. She stated that before
the composition of the committee is discussed, it should be decided if a
committee is the best way to resolve the issues. She added that the issues
have already been voted on by the people. City Attorney Burnham stated
that there aren't that many areas that need interpretation, but any
ambiguities need to be resolved in a way that is consistent with the purpose
and intent of the measure. He stated that some of the guidelines will be
relatively easy to develop, but some areas may produce more disagreement.
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He added that six affirmative votes of the City Council are needed to adopt
the guidelines, which requires near full agreement.
Council Member Glover stated that there may only be three issues that need
to be resolved, but there needs to be great caution taken in deciding what
issues should be addressed to insure that changes are not made to what
21,000 people thought they were voting for.
Mayor Pro Tern Adams stated that it is important to hear from the current
council members, so that their comments can be integrated into the staff
report. He stated that he'd also like to hear from the public, so that their
comments can be integrated into the staff report also and considered by the
final decision makers.
Allan Beek, proponent of the Greenlight measure, suggested that the
Planning Department provide the ad hoc committee with a list of the points
that they think need clarification and make recommendations on each point,
since they are the ones that are really going to be doing the field work.
Mr. Beek stated that the committee could review the recommendations.
Mayor Pro Tern Adams asked if Mr. Beek felt that a committee was
necessary. Mr. Beek stated that he wouldn't criticize the formation of the
committee, as A seems to be inevitable. Mayor Pro Tem Adams stated that
the Greenlight measure doesn't require a committee and maybe Council
Member Glover's suggestion should be considered. Mr. Beek stated that he'd
be satisfied with no committee being used in the process.
Philip Arst, proponent of the Greenlight measure, stated that he also
supports streamlining the process. He stated that the voters delivered a
message and staff could best write down that message. He stated that
everyone will still have a chance to provide input when the document is
brought before the City Council.
Council Member Debay stated that she would be concerned about the
interpretation of the ten -year accumulation requirement. Mr. Arst stated
that it should be discussed with the City Attorney.
Council Member O'Neil confirmed with Mr. Arst that the Greenlight
measure has certain thresholds and only deals with general plan
amendments. He stated that the confusion lies with the statistical areas and
general plan amendments in each of those areas over the last ten years.
Mr. Arst suggested that the meeting with staff and the proponents could
work through this issue. Council Member O'Neil wondered how many
projects would be affected, adding that the proponents of the Greenlight
measure have suggested that there would only be one or two projects per
year that require voter approval. He asked if such a detailed interpretation
is even needed or if each project could be addressed individually. Mr. Arst
stated that A is up to the City Council on what guidelines will be adopted.
Mayor Pro Tern Adams stated that there are some questions that need to be
answered and it is only fair to the property owners in the City that they
know what the rules are. He agreed that possibly the proponents should
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meet with staff and develop recommended guidelines. He added, however,
that if the committee with its broad representation of the City is not going to
be used, that a sufficient period of time should be given for the public to view
the recommended guidelines before they are voted on by the City Council.
Mr. Arst noted that everyone should have a fair chance to comment during
the public hearing.
City Attorney Burnham stated that the proponents can provide the same
input as anyone else in regards to the preparation of guidelines that are
necessary to administer the measure. He stated his concern for the City
Council directing staff to meet with the proponents only and excluding
others, since the recommendations could be subject to more criticism.
Dan Purcell suggested that the City Council look at a strategic plan for the
City, using outreach groups and a visioning process. He stated that it would
be a lot of work, but the voters have stated that they don't necessarily
support representative government. He stated that using a committee is
possibly not what the community needs at this time. He stated that
Newport Beach is a grassroots community.
Mayor Pro Tem Adams stated that the process, as suggested by Mr. Purcell,
is already underway through the General Plan Update Committee. He
stated that this committee has been tasked with making recommendations to
the City Council on a visioning and outreach process, as a precursor to a
general plan update. He stated that he chairs the committee and the
meetings have been positive and productive. He stated that there has been a
lot of cooperation from a diverse representation of the community and a
sincere desire to find a way to come up with a community vision and
guidance for updating the general plan.
Council Member Ridgeway announced that the next meeting of the General
Plan Update Committee would take place on December 11, 2000, at 4:00 p.m.
at the Central Library. He stated that the meetings are held every two
weeks.
Mayor Pro Tem Adams added that the meetings have been scheduled for the
next six months and are being held at 4:00 p.m. on the Mondays prior to City
Council meetings at the Central Library. Mr. Purcell stated that the
meetings shouldn't always be held at the same location. Mayor Pro Tem
Adams stated that the meetings are not the visioning process themselves,
they are meetings of the steering committee which is formulating the
process. He suggested that Mr. Purcell attend the meetings and provide his
input. Mr. Purcell stated that he has seen the visioning process function and
work.
Tom Hyans, proponent of the Greenlight measure, stated that the pool of
potential committee members doesn't include any advocates of the
Greenlight measure, other than the proponents themselves. He stated his
support for letting staff make the recommendations and having those go
through the public process at a City Council meeting.
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Jim Hildreth, 120 The Grand Canal, asked how the voting will be done. He
cited an example of when the privatization of the trash collection for
businesses was before the voters. Mr. Hildreth stated that it was unclear
what he was voting for.
Philip Bettencourt, 110 Newport Center Drive, BIA representative, referred
to the November 27, 2000, letter from the BIA to the City Council. He stated
his belief that better guidelines will result if the BIA is involved. He added
that the various stakeholders should comment on the guidelines before they
are brought to the City Council.
Mayor Noyes agreed that the process should be more inclusive, rather than
less inclusive.
Christopher Obaditch, 436 Serra Drive, stated that he is in favor of not
having a large committee. He agreed with Council Member Glover that the
people have spoken. He stated that the general public hopes that the City
Council got the message.
Council Member Debay asked Mr. Obaditch what he thought he was voting
for with regards to the ten -year issue. Mr. Obaditch stated that he is not a
U.S. citizen and, therefore, did not vote. He stated that he didn't know
which way the ten -year issue should go, but agreed that staff could come up
with a reasonable recommendation with input from the proponents.
Richard Luehrs, Newport Harbor Area Chamber of Commerce, stated that
the Greenlight measure was not about residential building, but about the
orderly progression of business in the community. He stated that the
Chamber of Commerce has a specific interest in the definitions and issues.
Mr. Luehrs stated that, during the campaign, the Chamber of Commerce
differed with the proponents on their intent and the impact of the measure.
He stated that the Chamber of Commerce has serious concerns about what
the outcome of the provisions of the measure will be.-Mr. Luehrs stated that
the Newport Beach Municipal Code includes provisions that were adopted
years ago by a City Council that held a particular point of view. He stated
that it is critical that the provisions are looked at seriously and that the
future is taken into consideration.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Skipper Tim Bercovitz, 215 15th Street, invited the City Council to attend the
festivities for Aaron Peirsol Day to be held on December 2, 2000. He stated
that the American Legion is proud to have been a sponsor of Aaron Peirsol's
trip to the Olympics. He stated that the festivities will include a car parade,
beginning at 11:00 a.m. at the pier and proceeding to the American Legion,
with a lunch to follow. He invited the media and the public to attend.
Council Member Ridgeway announced that Newport Elementary would be
unveiling its mosaic at 1:00 p.m. on the same day.
Jim Hildreth, 120 The Grand Canal, stated that he has been advised by a
City official to refrain from speaking at City Council meetings. He stated
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that on November 16, 2000, he met with City Manager Bludau and City
Attorney Burnham. He stated that collecting money on the bulkhead ladder
by the City is fraud, since it doesn't exist and cannot be accessed. He stated
that similar structures have been allowed. He stated that safer access is
needed. He stated that the City has installed a ladder that was not approved
by the Coastal Commission, nor complies with the Americans With
Disabilities Act. Mr. Hildreth mentioned that he, himself, is handicapped
and is unable to use the bulkhead ladder without further injury. He stated
that the reluctance of the City to commit to assurance of community safety
should be of great concern to the City's insurance carrier. He asked if the
City would be removing the steps at the northwest end of The Grand Canal
if the four residential pier, mooring only sites are reclassified and certified.
Mayor Noyes stated that the public should always feel free to speak at City
Council meetings. Mr. Hildreth explained that he was not directly advised
not to speak, he was advised on what he speaks on and to look into the issues
beforehand.
MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION —None.
ADJOURNMENT — 9:55 p.m.
The agenda for the Regular Meeting was posted on November 22, 2000, at
2:35 p.m. on the City Hall Bulletin Board located outside of the City of
Newport Beach Administration Building.
City Clerk
Recording Secretary
Mayor
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