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Ex- Officio Member Present: Ronald A. Whitley, Director
Staff Present: Jack Brooks, Park and Street
Tree Supt.
Tom Line, Recreation Supt.
Dottie Flohr, Secretary
I. PROCEDURAL MATTERS
Item #1
Call to
Order
The meeting of the Parks, Beaches and Recreation Commission
was called to order at 7:05 P.M.
Item #2
Roll Call
Roll call was taken. Commissioners Capretz, Cohen, de Boom,
Hopkins,,King, Springer and Wolfe were present.
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Item #3
Approval of
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Minutes
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Chair Cohen amended the minutes of the July 10, 1984 meeting
to read that Cohen, not King, will serve on the Budget
Committee, along with Commissioners de Boom and Wolfe.
Motion was made by de Boom and seconded by Capretz to
approve the amended minutes. Unanimous.
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Item #4
Adoption of
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Agenda
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The agenda was adopted as presented.
II. ACTION ITEMS
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Item #5 - Review of Newport Aquatic Center Proposal for
Review of
North Star Beach
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Newport
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Aquatic
Ron Whitley reviewed the background concerning the proposed
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Newport Aquatic Center which was conceived two years ago.
Proposal
Following numerous preliminary meetings, the proposal was
brought to the Parks, Beaches and Recreation Commission for
approval in February, 1982 and then to the City Council with
the idea of having a non - profit organization build a
facility on public land. Since North Star Beach is desig-
nated Tidelands and, as such, is under State jurisdiction,
action was taken to place the issue on the ballot in
November, 1982. It was passed by the electorate by a 2 -1
margin. A tentative ground lease was prepared and provided
to the Commission for their review.
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The Newport Aquatics Center needs to obtain a Use Permit
from the Planning Commission. The Planning Commission
reviewed their request and sent it to the Parks, Beaches
and Recreation Commission with the idea in mind that this
Commission and staff might have comments regarding the pro-
posed programs at the facility. -The environmental issue
is the Planning Commission's responsibility.
The applicant and the Dover Shores Homeowners Association
were present at this meeting to give their input on the
issue. The President of the Mariners Homeowners Association
called Mr. Whitley and told him they wished to give a nega-
tive declaration since they would not be represented this
evening. In addition, Pat Temple from the Planning Depart-
ment was present to answer any questions.
Pat Temple addressed the Commission and answered questions
concerning building height, etc. Ron Whitley mentioned
that until the building is completed, staff will not know
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what the needs by the Parks, Beaches and Recreation Depart-
ment will be. He added that it was,never staff's intention
to have activities there that are not aquatic related.
Chair Cohen opened the meeting to public testimony. Fred
Talarico, 359 San Miguel, who represents the'Newport
Aquatics Center, addressed the Commission. He said they
found North Star Beach to be the ideal site for human
power craft and that the non - profit corporation was estab-
lished to provide a facility on the subject site.
Mr. Talarico reviewed some of the background and noted that
in June of this year they applied for a Use Permit. The
Planning Commission asked them to first meet with the Dover
Shores and Mariners Homeowners Associations and the Parks,
Beaches and Recreation Commission. They met with both
Boards on August 6 and hope to present to the Planning
Commission on August 23 a proposal comfortable for all
groups. They hope to have the rest of the permits approved
by November, 1984 so the facility can open by July, 4, 1985.
Mr. Talarico also said they hope to be at this site a long
time and be a good neighbor. Since they are meeting re-
sistance from the homeowner groups concerning traffic
congestion, they are proposing to reduce the facility from
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65,000 s.f. to 20,000 s.f. which will accommodate 250
individuals on a peak day, rather than the original 850.
Mr. Talarico passed out a Building Facility Summary for
information purposes.
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Bill Whitford, 406 Snug Harbor, addressed the Commission.
He reported the concept started by his paddling in the area
and noting there was no place to store human power craft.
They want the site and facility to be compatible to the
area and also to help the youth and handicapped.
Mr. Whitford also explained the hours of use for advanced
and youth sports. The building will be built at no cost to
the taxpayers, but will be open to the public for on -going
programs.
Mr. Fred Talarico, 359 San Miguel, addressed the Commission
again and answered questions concerning the 25 year lease.
They will raise the money to build the facility and will
also serve as instructors. He emphasized again that they
want to have a good facility with quality programs in addi-
tion to being a good neighbor.
Capretz pointed out that the concept itself has been endorse
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by the people and the Commission. What is required is some-
thing-compatible with the needs of the people and the
Aquatics Center.
Ron Whitley said he felt the reduced 20,000 s.f. is adequate
in size to offer programs and store boats. He pointed out
that the facility can always be expanded should the.need
arise. He also mentioned that the major activities will be
in the water, rather than in the facility itself.
Mr. Cliff Jordan, 1212 Santiago, addressed the Commission.
He said he felt North Star Beach is not an appropriate area
due to the potential problems which will most likely be
encountered. He felt that due to the steep hills in the
residential area that traffic will present a hazard in
addition to the loud radios early in the.morning which will
disturb their privacy.. He also does not like the idea that
public access will be through their private residential'
area. He stated he does not object to the concept itself,
but feels the facility should be located in a non- residentia
area.
Patricia Voss, 1219 Santiago, addressed the Commission and
expressed her concern that the location, would pose too many
traffic hazards and burdens.
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Peter Drummond, 1706 Antigua Way, who is President of the
Dover Shores Homeowners Association, addressed the
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Commission. He said the original functions and size of the
facility have changed and that he thought this was to be a
rowing facility only. Due to the change in configuration-,
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he feels it should be located elsewhere to relieve the
potential traffic burden. He said the scaling down to
20,000 s.f. is more favorable, however, he would like to get
more community response which he feels is already 100%
negative.
Mr. Ed Benson, 1028 Westwind Way and a member of the Dover
Shores Board, addressed the Commission. He gave a brief
background of the area and the impaction the proposed
facility would have on the site. He expressed his concern
regarding traffic and noise problems and felt that the
facility should be located elsewhere.
He also stated he wasn't aware of the size and number of
functions programmed when he first voted. He said he
thought it was going to be a rowing facility and not a
physical fitness center. He said he is also concerned about
the 65' boats getting into the area. He feels the whole
matter should again be reviewed.
Upon the close of public testimony, there was discussion
by the Commission. Hopkins suggested reinstating con-
ceptual approval. Cohen suggested the applicant redesign
both the latest presentation which limits the size of the
facility and those areas which are involved with the human
power boating, as well as eliminating those areas that are
duplicated by the community, i.e., Nautilus, etc. The
redesign should then be presented to the Planning Commission
and, if approved, staff would recommend programs the City
could introduce.
King felt the facility should not be limited to rowing.
Capretz felt Newport Beach Aquatics should give more though
on how to decrease traffic and how to combat the negatives
about which Dover Shores is concerned. He also suggested
they include the homeowner associations and staff in any
future planning. He suggested the Commission communicate
back to the Planning Commission that since it is our under-
standing the applicant is considering a decrease in the
facility plan and that the decrease is to be reviewed by
the homeowner associations, the Commission is not in a
position to make a decision until after the applicant has
submitted the new plans. When re- presented, the Parks,
Beaches.and Recreation Commission will review it.
King motioned the Commission be on record as favoring
the concept, and'that we will support the concept under the
right conditions and building size and when the neighborhoo
is satisfied with their concerns. Seconded by Capretz.
Unanimous.
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Item #6 - Proposals for Special Recognition Program
Proposals
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Cohen recommended adding Joan Taylor, who is in charge of
Recognitior
the junior lifeguard program, to those listed for Commission
Program
recognition awards. Ms. Taylor has done outstanding work in
managing this new program.
de Boom suggested Naugles be recognized for donating all the
food at Mariners July 4th program.
Ron Whitley mentioned this is the first time someone has bee
recognized for the 4th of July program, and that due to all
the hard work it entails, perhaps recognition should go to
all past Chairs of the event. de Boom offered to get these
names.
Capretz motioned J. Michael Ray, Carol Martin, Laverne
Healy, Naugles and the past Chairs of the Mariners 4th of
July celebration be honored at the September 4, 1984 meeting.
Seconded by King. Unanimous.
III. PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
IV. DISCUSSION ITEMS
Item #7 - 1984 -85 Budget Summary
1984 -85
Budget
Ron Whitley explained that the Department estimates are
Summary
prepared by staff and reviewed by the Commission. The City
Manager then reviews them and historically makes cuts. A
large discrepancy is usually a request for more personnel.
He also explained that the approved budget is larger than
what the City Manager recommends due to the salaries adopted
by Council at the end of the fiscal year, at which time the
are added.
The budget as presented is for informational purposes and
serves as a policy document. Capital improvements are not
included, as we only have one major commitment which is the
new Community Youth Center to be constructed this year.
Tom Line summarized the 7600 account and specifically noted
that the $10,000 in capital outlay was not lost, but was
funded out of Building Excise for playground equipment.
Ron Whitley answered questions of the Commission on specifi
items where the City Manager's figures differed and which
were relocated in the budget.
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Item, #8 - City Beach Restrooms
City Beach
Restrooms
Ron Whitley summarized the issue of the City beach restrooms
and reported that the City Manager is asking the Commission
to review and make recommendations to the Committee's
report. Mr. Whitley feels the Commission should take a look
at the situations on the ocean and at West Newport Park and
formulate their own concepts.
Mr. Whitley also stated that what is being proposed may not
be possible. An example of the recommendation for instal-
lation of restrooms at the Point. This has been proposed
and funded, however, the homeowners had previously ex-
pressed no desire to have one installed at this location.
A tour of the restroom facilities will be held for those
interested on September 29 at 10 A.M.
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Item #9 - Environmental Controls of,Buck Gully
Environment;
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Commissioner Capretz, Chair of the Beach Study Committee,
Buck Gully
reported Mr.-Whitley had contacted Pat Temple, Environmental
Coordinator, and Public Works to get their input on the
situation at Buck Gully. Ms. Temple's report gives a good
background as to the drainage in that area and what the
safeguards are. Evaluation and analysis will be included
in all future developments.
Capretz passed out his proposed Resolution which has been
corrected and is attached.
Capretz moved the Resolution as corrected be incorporated
into a motion. Seconded by de Boom. Unanimous.
V. INFORMATION REPORTS
Item #10 - Recreation-Division
Recreation
Division
Tom Line reported the Day Camp program finished August 3 and
will probably be the last one offered due to financial
reasons. He also said that an in depth analysis and evalua-
tion of the spring session will be presented at the
September 4 meeting.
On August'8 at 11 A.M. the concrete slab for the new sign
at the Theatre Arts•Center will be poured.
Item #11 - Park and Street Tree Division
Park and
Street Tre
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Division
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VI. SPECIAL, URGENT OR LAST MINUTE ITEMS
Commissioner Springer, OASIS liaison, reported she met with
Judy O'Shaughnessy and Ed Williams and also attended the
Board meeting on August 3'. She feels OASIS has an out-
standing program offering a wide variety of programs along
with good participation.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the Parks., Beaches and
Recreation Commission adjourned at 9:30 P.M.
Dottie Flohr', Secretary