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Parks, Beaches l3 Recreation Commission
Regular Meeting
June 7, 2005- 7pm
Convened 7:11 pm
ROLL CALL
Present: Debra Allen
cTim Brown
Roy Englebrecht
Bill Garrett
Greg Ruzicka
Val Skoro
Tom Tobin
Staff: Marie Knight, Recreation ft Senior Services Director
Mike Pisani, Acting General Services Director
Dan Serreno, Parks ft Tree Superintendent
Teri Craig, Administrative Assistant
DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS
Director Knight stated that she had distributed a presentation for MarinaPark and reminded them that
last November the proposal for a resort/hotel was defeated by the voters and a citizen committee was
formed and is currently looking at alternative uses for the property and Commissioner Allen, a member
of that committee was asked to bring back the submission made by the Commission in 2000. She went
on to say that Commissioner Allen and Superintendent McGuire have been working on resurrecting the
proposal and will present it to the Council on July 21 at 4pm. She asked that the Commissioner review
it and if they have questions or suggestions to please filter them through Commissioner Allen. Director
Knight announced that the 24`h Annual CdM 5k Run was held last Saturday and was very successful and
congratulated staff members Matt Lohr and Sean Levin for all their hard work and thanked Chair Tobin
for assisting in opening the event. She went on to say that staff is gearing up for the summer and
remarked that training was being held for all the past time staff and announced that Jim Gubser would
be leaving and that recruitment for that position had begun.
Acting Director Pisani officially introduced Dan Serreno as the Parks it Tree Superintendent and began
May 13.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes of the April 5, 2005 regular meeting. Waive reading of subject minutes, approve as written and order
filed.
2. Item pulled by Commissioner Englebrecht
3. Recreation Et Senior Services Activity Report. Receive /file monthly Activity Report for activities and upcoming
projects.
2. Park and Tree Division Activity Report. Commissioner Englebrecht stated that he had read the May
report and remarked about the view concern made by residents on Cliff Drive and noted that he
realized that staff was going to discuss this next month but asked for a status report on trimming,
etc.
Superintendent Serreno stated that WCA had begun to trim those trees and that the process has
begun but noted that this is a hand operation and that they must climb the trees without the use of
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equipment that it will be a slower process but suspects that it will take about a week to complete
the pruning of the trees.
Commissioner Ruzicka asked if there was some king of "super deep" pruning being done and then
reassess it in two months to see if that was satisfactory.
Commissioner Englebrecht asked if this had been brought up last month when he had not been in
attendance.
Commissioner Ruzicka stated yes. Director Knight stated that it had not been brought up as an
agenda item but rather a request during public comments and therefore the General Services staff
had remarked that they would be coming back to the Commission with a full report.
Superintendent Serreno stated that he had met with residents and that they were satisfied with the
process that staff would be taking and would discuss it more after it had been completed.
Commissioner Garrett asked what a park enthusiast is defined as.
Superintendent Serreno stated that they are referring to Dr. Vandersloot.
Commissioner Garret also asked about the security and crime issues.
Superintendent Serreno stated that he was made aware of it from the previous meeting but have
not talked to staff but that there is one hedge in front of the trees that will be pruned down.
Director Knight stated that it had been reported that there had been an increase in activity of
vandalism at that park and that Park Patrol and the PD have stepped up their patrol of the area and
that it seems to have lessened.
Motion by Commissioner Ruzicka to approve items 1 -3 of the Consent Calendar. Motion carried by
acclamation.
NEW BUSINESS
4. Sunset Ridge /Cal Trans West Future Park Site - Director Knight reminded the Commission that the
property at corner of PCH and Superior Ave adjacent to the Banning Ranch property is one of the
last three park related projects that have been identified by the City for development. She stated
that the other two Back Bay View Park and the Newport Village Park are in various stages of
development and that it is now time to move forward with this property. She stated that it is the
Council's desire that the community be heavily involved in the eventual outcome of the type of park
as it is zoned as open space. She stated that several months ago the City issues a RFQ was done with
an emphasis on community input process. The firm selected was RJM Design Group, Inc. based on
previous experience on past projects and excellent references. She stated that Bob Muting from RJM
will make a brief presentation outlining the proposed community outreach plan to be used to garner
input from the public on the type of park that is to be developed. She stated that the Park
Development Committee has seen this presentation and felt that both the Commission and the
Council should have input into this process before we proceed further. She reminded the
Commission and the audience that many phone calls have been received and that tonight's
discussion is only related to the process to garner input and that no discussion regarding the design
of the park will take place tonight. She went on to say that extensive public noticing went out
announcing this meeting and will be done again when we are ready for go forward with the
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community outreach meetings. She stated that Assistant City Manager Kiff and Council Member
Rosansky have been working diligently because the Stated has decided to renig on the previous deal
to purchase the land from Cal Trans and to lease it to the City. She went on to say that several
lobbyists have been hired and received a call today indicating that it looks as though staff will be
able to move forward with an arrange that will eventually allow us to purchase the land so that the
property is ours versus a lease. She stated that at somewhat the original purchase price proposed.
She stated that at each place an email from Dave Kiff with information on how to forward a letter
to the state asking them not to go back on the deal.
After the presentation by Bob Muting, Commissioner Skoro asked if dates had been selected.
Director Knight stated that there will be some difficulty with logistics as a location needs to be
selected that will hold at least 100 people with tables and chairs and that there are very few
facilities like that and the other problem is that through July that there are General Plan visioning
meetings already set up and but a definite date will not be set until RJM feels that they have all the
information they need. The hope is possibly August and maybe September. The plan is to have a
meeting place at the library and transport them by bus for the site visit and then back to the library
for a workshop.
Chair Tobin opening the public discussion
Sandra Miller asked if there would be a limit on the number of people that participate in the
process.
Director Knight stated that during the first meeting that there would not be a limit but as you can
see but at the second meeting they would not be going backwards and so any decisions that were
discussed at the first would not be discussed again, but noted that as always the public is always
welcome at any public meeting.
Donald Richard asked for confirmation of the location of the park.
Director Knight stated that it is the vacant land across Superior on the west side.
Bob Leonard from Lido Sands asked for the information in Sacramento and asked for the timeframe.
Director Knight stated that once a consensus is complete on the master plan and then funding for
the type of park will be a issue as it could cost anywhere from 3 to 6 million dollars.
Frank Jenes noted that he understood that Cal Trans owns property on both sides of Superior - a
small parcel on the east side between Sunset View and the Ride Along area and a large parcel on the
west side and that both sides are going to be planned for.
Director Knight stated that the 14 acres and the 1.2 acres would be included in the entire process.
She asked Mr. Jenes to address any additional questions to Public Works Director Steve Badum.
Michael Lombardi asked what amount of weight is given to community input.
Director Knight stated that the Commission would be participating as well and then on to the
Council. She stated that there is always the discussion of financial constraints.
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Discussion ensued regarding the status of the purchasing of the property and the involvement of the
Coastal Commission.
Chair Tobin closed the public discussion
5. Naming of Park Site Located Behind the Newport Beach Central Library - Director Knight stated
that the naming of the park site located behind the Newport Beach Central Library was discussed at
the March 15, 2005 Park Development Committee meeting and at that time the Committee decided
to obtain input from the community on the name for the park. Staff worked with the Daily Pilot on
an article that ran April 5`" and also in the Newport Navigator inviting the public to submit
appropriate names. She stated that four hundred and twenty -five suggestions were received, with
only a handful of duplicates. The Park Development Committee met on May 17, 2005 and
recommended that the Parks, Beaches £t Recreation Commission forward to City Council on June 14
the following names:
Centennial Park
Newport Beach Central Park
Newport Central Park
Commissioner Allen stated that she would be out of town on June 14 and would endorse whatever
name(s) the Commission moves forward with.
Commissioner Englebrecht stated that the list has no imagination and is disappointed that nothing
more imaginative was given.
Chair Tobin asked if he had a suggestion. Commissioner Englebrecht stated no.
Director Knight stated that the Commission has the ability to add any names to the list.
Commissioner Ruzicka suggested that the three go forward to Council.
Discussion ensued regarding the selection on three names versus one name.
Commissioner Skoro stated that it is obviously up to Council to decide on a name.
Chair Tobin opened the public discussion, hearine none the discussion was closed.
Motion by Commissioner Garrett to forward the Centennial Park, Newport Beach Central Park and
Newport Central Park to the Council.
Commissioner Englebrecht stated that he is embarrassed as a Commission to forward those names.
Chair Tobin stated that there are some people here that would dispute those comments.
Commissioner Englebrecht suggested sending the Council the list and let them decide.
Substitute Motion by Commissioner Ruzicka to forward the three names along the entire list of 425
names to City Council for their consideration. Motion carried by the following votes:
Ayes: Allen, Brown, Garrett, Ruzicka, Skoro, Tobin
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Noes: Englebrecht
6. Volleyball Teachine Center on the Beach between 15th it 16th Streets - Director Knight stated
That there is a recommendation before you to add 3 new sand volleyball courts between 15a Et 16`"
Streets off the boardwalk adjacent to the restrooms. She stated that the City has operated
volleyball classes have been conducted at Corona del Mar State Beach for the past 20
years, during that time, the following issues have arisen:
The beach area is utilized more by sunbathers and results in lack of space for beach
volleyball classes taking place.
Conflicts with the fire pits and beach volleyball users. The fire pits cannot be removed
per Coastal Commission.
The demand for more beach volleyball classes. Classes continue to fill up to maximum
and generate waitlists for those hoping to get into the class.
With the renovation of the beach in fall 2005, the ability to expand the number of
courts at CDM does not exist and there is a probability that a few of the existing courts
will be moved and /or removed.
This proposal is to find a feasible alternative for the City volleyball classes so they can
expand without impacting the beach and weekend players.
She stated that this is the most logical location in looking for a wider stretch of beach and
that the Recreation Activities Committee met on April 26, 2005, to discuss this issue. They
voted to recommend by a 2 -1 vote to place 3 courts between 15u' and 16th Street. For total
of 6 courts to be used for teaching City run volleyball classes.
She stated that there is a great interest on what will happen to the courts at the Corona
del Mar State Beach but that will need to wait until October or so until those plans are
complete.
She stated that with the addition of these three courts that it would move all the volleyball
court classes from CdM State Beach to this location.
Volleyball Instructor Ron Hanks stated that he felt that this location would be a good
arrangement for teaching classes although parking could become an issue; but it would
open up the courts at CdM State Beach for more open play.
Chair Tobin opened the public discussion
The following people spoke out against the placement of the courts at 15u' Et 16u' Streets
and asked staff to look at other locations and or different placement of the courts as it was
too near their homes and or the boardwalk.
Charles Banks
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Betty Banks
Inez Garrett
Alan Garick
Sharon Fritz
Linda Grant
Don Regan stated that he felt that this would be a good location.
Chair Tobin closed the public discussion
Commissioner Ruzicka asked staff to go back and work with the homeowners on different
placement of the courts.
Motion by Commissioner Ruzicka to place the courts at 15`h F± 16n' Streets but to look at a
different configuration after meeting with the homeowners.
Substitute motion by Commission Allen to ask staff to look at other locations and or
different configurations and to bring back to the Commission. Motion carried by
acclamation.
Chair Tobin and Commissioners Brown and Garrett will meet at proposed location with staff
and residents to discuss location and placement before the next meeting.
Policy and Addendum to Field Allocation and Use Policy - Director Knight stated that on this issue
the Commission is being asked to approve Revisions to the Youth Sports Commission Criteria and
Responsibilities, Field Allocation Ft Use Policy and Addendum to Field Allocation and Use Policy. She
went on to remind the Commission that two years ago driven by the increasing requests for field
resources and problems between some user groups that utilize the fields that staff worked with the
Recreation Activities Committee and YSC members to create an allocation formula and policy that
would assist staff in the ongoing challenge of meeting the ever - growing needs for field resources.
The YSC is not an appointed group but rather one that was formed consisting of representatives
from the recreational sports organizations that staff works with on a regular basis. She noted that
the purpose of bringing the group together was to discuss the use, allocation, maintenance,
renovation, security of the fields and the permit system. The main focus for field resources remains
to those organizations that are providing activities most closely matched with the City's services
and programs. The idea is that everyone plays and none are turned away unless of course we are
unable to have complete teams and there is no tryout process. The current field allocation and YSC
has for the most part worked well and has provided a more cooperative organization between staff
and the sports organizations. She noted that staff has refined the process and in some cases added
clarifying language to the policy in order to enforce it and to accommodate the growing need for
fields. The main change to the policy is to the allocation percentages and have been made with a
lot of input from both the public and the YSC members and the Recreation Activities Committee.
There has been an increase from club level teams requesting field space and typically offer higher
competition level then the YSC level and although not all some do not have a residency restriction.
Although these groups make up a small percentage of the youth population playing sports overall in
out fields, staff feels now that they should be made part of the allocation process and are although
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they are lower in the classification ranking but in the past they were not even part of the process. A
few points to remember that the need in our community for field space continues to outpace our
resources and because we are dealing with changing numbers we anticipate that we will need to
come back every few years to tweak the policy and adjust the numbers. And noted that staff
continues to caution all the YSC organizations that the City cannot be expected to bear the entire
burden of this problem and that some of the responsibilities needs to lie within the organizations to
implement some registration cutoff policies so that they do not continue to sign up children and
expect the City to accommodate that growing need with resources that the City does not have.
Staff has spent a lot of time reviewing the policy and considering input. All YSC organizations and
club teams were given the opportunity to provide input into the process and know that this policy
does not satisfy everyone 100% but that it is the most fair and equitable way to handle it.
Commissioner Allen stated that bottom line it is a work in progress and this is a step.
Discussion ensued regarding the difference between the rental permit
Chair Tobin opened the public discussion
Tim Epp stated that he had believed in the past that club teams had been demonized but that now
has seen the other side of that but that the underlying premise is flawed as kids are treated
differently and that they should all be treated the same regardless of whether they are more
talented then others and believes that the allocation needs more work and that it is not fair but
that this is a work in process and believes it should be treated as such.
Marlyn Howe noted that most of the 10 -15 years olds do not belong to groups that have the
everyone plays philosophy, that kids play to make themselves better. She went on to say that it just
does not seem fair, and that these kids should have as much access to fields as the younger ones.
She went on to say that everyone should keep in mind that this policy is a work in progress and
thanked staff for listening to them.
Bill Howen stated that he is associated with the Slammers Football Club and that they are 110%
supportive of this allocation. He stated that club kids are about 10% of the youth population and
that it seems fair,
Barry Zimmerman, AYSO 97 representing Region 97 stated that it is a matter of choice that kids that
belong to club levels choose to do that and that AYSO 97 represent over 1000 kids and that every
child only has to pay $23 for a uniform versus what club team levels must pay and $85 for the entire
package and believes that those kids should have first allocation of the fields and that teams such as
Stammers should be behind AYSO.
Discussion ensued regarding questions made by Jeff Braun on advanced player and club team levels
under the general recreation definition.
Jim Percival stated that he is concerned that staff is allowing what is called Plus Teams that are
related to AYSO entities write the rules. He stated that he believes that it is not fair to dissuade
children from excelling and that the distinction regarding paid trainers or not and focus on residency
threshold that much could be eliminated regarding what qualifies and what does not. He asked next
year for staff to took at this again regarding these definitions.
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Chair Tobin closed that public discussion
Motion by Commissioner Englebrecht to approve the Revisions to the Youth Sports Commission
Criteria and Responsibilities, Field Allocation 8 Use Policy and Addendum to Field Allocation and Use
Policy. Motion carried by acclamation.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
• Finance - Nothing to report
• Park Development - Commissioner Skoro that there would be a brief park dedication at Back Bay
View Park on July 9 at 9am.
• Rec ft Open Space Element - Nothing to report.
• Recreation Activities - Nothing to report.
• Seniors - Nothing to report
• Beach Activities - Nothing to report
• Ad Hoc
- Community Service Award - Nothing to report.
Special Tree Committee - Nothing to report.
- Youth Sports Liaison - Superintendent McGuire stated that there would be a meeting the week of
July 15.
- Donation - Commissioner Brown stated that they are waiting for the first meeting to be set up.
Director Knight stated that they are waiting for Acting Director Pisani to get up to speed on
that.
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
Commissioner Ruzicka asked if there was anything ever happened regarding those that had forged
signatures on those petitions for tree removals in Corona del Mar. Director Knight stated that the City
Attorney had reviewed that issue and has decided that they will not pursue any action. Discussion
ensued regarding this subject.
Commissioner Garrett stated that he would like the Commission to be education on how value is
assigned to specific trees.
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