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Parks, Beaches & Recreation Commission
Regular Meeting
October g, 2010 — 7pm
Convened 9:00111
ROLL CALL
Present: Phillip Lugar, Vice Chair
Tim Brown
Tom Anderson
Ron Cole
Bill Garrett
Kathy Hamilton
Laura Detweiler, Recreation & Senior Services
Mark Harmon, General Services Director
Sean Levin, Recreation Superintendent 1"
Teri Craig, Admin Asst
Director Detweiler announced that staff m' t
CIP Projects related to buildings and parks
Parks Development Meeting agenda online.
Protection & Education Division which inclu
Education Supervisor. They will work under
Commission will begin to ore prog -a
highlighted some Buck s and ne
scheduled and invited e Com '' n to att
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o t Committee, the annual update of
Po nt hick will be attached to the
that " . partment adopted the Marine
toff alopp`� with the Marine Protection &
pp Manager Janet Cates and the
1 months to come. Director Detweiler
was sold out but there are several more
reminded the Commission of the OASIS
[ft meeting with a tree removal report request from
the leaves and a branch for the Commission to see.
and removed some branches and received an email
a with the tree droppings situation.
ie City Council approved the PB &R Commission
e and will now contact the homeowners so that trees
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.on Activity Report. Receive /file monthly Activity Report for activities and upcoming
3. Item pulled by Commissioner Lugar
4. Balboa Village Tree Donation. Approve Balboa Village treeplaques located in Balboa Village.
g. Item pulled by Director Harmon
Motion by Commissioner Brown to accept items t, 2 and 4 of the Consent Calendar. Motion carried by
acclamation.
3. Recreation & Senior Services Activity Report, Vice Chair Lugar questioned staff regarding the Park Patrol
section of the report about 97 dog related public contacts.
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Superintendent Levin stated that this refers to each time the Park Patrol comes in contact with someone with a dog and
they are educating them on something that they are not doing correctly, i.e. dog off leash.
Vice Chair Lugar asked if these contacts were in a predominant location.
Superintendent Levin stated that this activity report is from August and that during that month they predominantly
patrolled CdM State Beach and parks around the City.
5. Bench Donation. Director Harmon stated that the resident contacted staff requesting that the dedication language
could be changed from Donated for Brian Scalzo to In Memory of Brian Scalzo and that it does meet the requirements
of Council Policy B -17 and recommended that the Commission approve the donation with,that change.
Motion from Commissioner Brown to approve items 3 and 5 of the Consent Cal, ar. Motion carried by acclamation.
Vice Chair Lugar stated that item 7 would be taken out of order so that th uld not have sit through the
discussion of item 6.
Reforestation Request. Director Harmon stated than 'ff had received a req' "" i or reforestation of
two Eucalyptus trees from Matthew Haight at 537 Sa Ana Avenue. He stated tha c,progerty owner
has complied with the requirements of Council Po and has reed to assume lh$1fT cost of the
removal and replacement of the trees. He went on t at th ' ihlrees are planted ` "rider Southern
California Edison power lines and that they have toppe �' ees ' d have becor& disfigured. He
stated that staff recommends approval of the reforestation. q;a
Discussion ensued regarding the need inch box tree vors a 24 inch box tree. Director
Harmon stated that the homeowner did %�&%, was willing fctiplan' any size box tree and that
Commission can certainly ask him to do t�� st ated tw ilre replacement size is the 24
inch box.s {e
Vice Chair Lugar ope- "rkluppublic dlscu s'lbn hearlrtg none the public discussion was
closed.tk " p
Motion hv Coro-- loner Br"o Br" to approve th' tr , forestation of two Eucalyptus trees by Matthew
Haight at 537 Santa Ana*due o carried by amation.
6. Co ' deration o rdin ` C ange Amending Section 7.04.030 of Title 7 of
t ort Beach icip a Pertaining to Animals on the Beach. Recreation
Mana ' °ohr introduc F eniort• It nimal Control Office Valerie Schaumburg and Battalion
Lifeguai tef Jim Turn Viand noted that they were here to answer any questions if needed.
Manager presented brief PowerPoint on the history of how the City ordinance has
changed over - "Years
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Chair Lugar asked the public to inform the Commission by
item they agree with:
1 No change to the ordinance as currently written (prohibits animals on b
or
2 Change hours that animals are not permitted on beaches to
or
3 Exclude animals on beaches between the hours of 9:ooam
from September 16 to May 14;.;
and or
4 Exclude harbor beaches from any changes to the existing or
Shirley Reinker stated that she is ond;
residents that want to enjoy a slice of oul
when the beach is mostly empty. She wer
November to February when the sun sets
and dark in the morn '' that gain (
allow those parents-,,, at dro their cl
to the Commission which
on a year
May 15 to
round);
restriction
ie pact leaders foa�j� ,he; hundreds of responsible
a 4rxtpark with ��'feashed dogs during winter
to sw a" is unsafe to walk on the beach from
�r rpm fo semors. She noted that it is cold
hot allow fo huch time on the beach nor does it
srt at school the time to get a decent walk in. Ms.
Reinker stated th en Citytncil voted to''fift the ban during the winter they were right on
target and that"it Mon
rise to allow at= "'and they have a petition with over 300
signatures in support bry rs. did note that this ban should apply only to ocean facing
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beaches de the' y poi i'lli, Island is a totally different situation as
their h rlroxrtit a varv`ttarl Inratinn`i'n walk anrd thav ran walk nn their hnarrdwadk 9e.
hou day and ,6`6 a ,restrr between gam and Spm all year long. She urged that the
C 'ssion to sunnortAtems 4 and�'-�... '`
Ed He tated that b 'eupport`ting the change to loam to 4:3opm it would enhance the
quality o nd asked t " Commission to support items 2 and 4. He stated that his dream
would be to dogs offa ' sh dogs and dam and Sam all year round on any beach.
Tom Houston sta' t he has served on the Water Quality Committee since 1986. He noted
that Balboa Island %did Harbor Beaches are no place for dogs. He supports whatever the
Commission feels is appropriate regarding the hours but should exclude animals from harbor
beaches.
Jim Uer stated that he believes that most people that bring their dogs and most respect the
access but there are about 20% that do not pick up after their dogs and noted that he sees this
every single day of the week. He urged the Commission to support item 2.
Bill Bennett urged the Commission to support items 3 and 4 and would add a little more
freedom and it would be much appreciated and asked the Commission to see how it goes and
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October 5, 2010
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revisit again if there are problems.
Tempest Hill stated that she has noticed that there have never been more than four dogs on the
beach at any one time during the hours that dogs are allowed and does not believe that there is
a problem. She urged support of item 3.
Greg Reinker stated that he walks on the beach twice everyday all year round. He provided a
suggestion on how the signs could be changed with just a sticker. He recommended no change
for the harbor beaches. He urged support of 3 and 4 and supporteqatricter restriction of the
litter and off -leash laws. IrIffick" .
Sara Abraham noted her support of item 3 and 4. She
and it is the people that have to be monitored and sugl
Mike Hernough urged support of items 3 and 4 and
Tom Burke stated that he is opposed to item
urged support item of items 2 and 4.
Trish Knapp urged support of item 3
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Kelly Newcomb stated that she is in favp ,,-e s 3 and 4 an ` t the Commission should not
punish those that are good dog owners. �111 � VIII I'
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Kim Jameson stated that she supports rte 3 4 °ed that emotional issue of more
dog bites is unfounded d e, the calls for e in 200 ount for 0.07% of total citations.
She went on to say that dog Mats accounts tt 0.14% and even if these were doubled because
of the longer howrsT ld s account for s than o% of the annual NBPD citations for
these types of events
Mike Smacgrt rpvided a 11 $re of"a, ttf allowing her dogs off leash at 28th Street which
is an eye` .' h ita ' _ nce pp `` ty.
ywC Wigged su ort of item z and make it consistent across the Ci
off stated #*;we areFegiiting known as a Dog Beach by the River Jetties. He
he does not rq4,W have �Aiceference if either item 1 or z were passed.
Officer Scls6 �iburg stated at in 2009 ttoo tickets were issued; 48% were beach violations —
1% of the P� Officers #tote animal tickets last year and that it is important to note that
since 1996 they ;mcx, g owners, and noted that the Police Department supports item 2.
Manager Lohr state'
hat consistency is a big issue for enforcement.
Joe McCarthy agreed that the City has become known as a Dog Beach and was actually
attacked by a dog in 2005 and stated that there is definitely a lack of enforcement for dogs off
leash. He recommended that the Commission maintain the beach hours as they are today and
urged support of item 1.
Les Klingerman informed the Commission about how pathogens remain in the sand even if
collected and recommended that the Commission support item 4 regarding a sanitation
standpoint.
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Dave Purcell stated that he was speaking for the birds as an avid bird watcher and that the dogs
scare them away.
Battalion Chief Turner stated that he has been enforcing the dog ordinances since 1973. He
noted that he had contacted other cities around and noted that Seal Beach is very happy with
not allowing dogs on their beach and have a difficult time with enforcement when guards are
not out; Huntington Beach allows dogs on their dog beach and one of their big issues is that
dogs are supposed to be on leash and they cannot enforce it; and La na Beach allow dogs on
their beach during the off season; and San Clemente does not allows #&vQn the beach and have
problems with enforcement of the pedestrians going off the t "'' . He stated that Lifeguard
Operations recommend item 2 and stated that this was mo ' ease the dog owners but
confirmed that his staff get a lot of complaints because b� cr' : are coming later to the
beach and staying longer into the evening. He went on t s that th" ther in Newport stays
warmer through September. He said that after talky ` he,Police D ment and his staff
consistency throughout the year was important.
Commissioner Anderson stated that the sentiments ofeguards make it very clear that the
recommendation by the PB &R to the. Council back in Ju ` s correct and is very comfortable
with recommending #2 again. He that he believesistency is important but was
willing to hear the other Commissioners
jig harbor beat I
Commissioner Hamilton agreed with Ch e� Turrie� ieheves -Ahat item 2 is the right one to
forward to the City Council. "
Commissioner Bro state' - he had key tabs on the discussion tonight and that most
people support it . and tha - sere is a diffeitce between the harbor beaches and the beach
front on the pen iil t d beliQ"ves it is fair that','w 'ould exclude the harbor beaches from any
change because that d ` move as much but would support item 2 and exclude
harbor bea om anv e.
fines be inei
Gwent on to
whose `
dogs. Com
cleaning up t
streets. He ri
off leash and
Nre�Mst discussion he had wanted to make a recommendation
sFor allowing more hours and that he is still in support of
nt came up to him at the last meeting about a woman
was hum on by an unleashed dog and since then has been terrified 01 a"
mer Gar ; that the real problem is the dogs that are not on a leash and
,,them. oted that they have been trying to get dispensers on the numbered
' nd tem 2 and that fines should increases should be considered for dogs
k oviding dispensers for the numbered streets on the peninsula.
Commissioner Cold "stated that he struggles with the enforcement aspects and that he finds it
hard to support item 3. He went on to say that he supports item 2, recognizes the fact that
everything should be consistent and would be in support of looking at fines and dispensers but
also excluding dogs on the harbor beaches altogether.
Vice Chair Lugar stated that he agrees with Commissioner Garrett and that consistency is
important. He stated that he would support increasing the fines, installing dispensers and
supporting item 2.
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Motion by Commissioner Garrett to recommend to the City Council that they approve
item z - Change hours that animals are not permitted on beaches to to:ooam — 4:30pm on a
year round basis; that fines be increased for dogs off leash; that a funding source be found for
dog dispensers on the peninsula, and; exclude animals from the harbor beaches.
Director Detweiler stated that the admin citations have a set fee of $ioo, $zoo and $500.
Commissioner Brown confirmed that the City Council sets the fees for the admin citations.
Officer Schaumburg stated yes and went on to say that the Harbor Court and the State set the
fines for criminal citations. zi i,aN T01,
Superintendent Levin stated that staff had talked to Revei
it is used for a multitude of different violations so that
would be changing it for everything else. l
Vice Chair Lugar asked Commissioner Brown his
Commissioner Brown stated that he would
beaches but rather excluding harbor beaches
as it stands in the ordinance today.
Vice Chair Lugar asked Commission " if 1f he
beaches to loam — 4:3opm and that ha cl
Commissioner Brown stated yes that he Sul
anything with the citation fines attached a+
support item z and 4, 1 motion goe
he would be troublewttft Y 'hand might i3
dispensers 1s a gmcea but of support
citations.
remain
admin citation and that
;ed it for the dogs they
the harbor
dogs allowe ,4'the harbor
dation tonighfi and leaving it
the hours for oceanfront
e N ort of1his, but he would not support
eves two different issues. He would
Yard pencflhg raising the admin citations then
be able to support that motion. The issue of
recommendation to raise the fees for admin
in favor he could withdraw that part of the
Reifted Motion b " miser' "Garrett to recommend to the City Council that they
appr `' item z - Chan"
to ooafi m ours 't animals are not permitted on oceanfront beaches to
:3op on ajl roun" basis; that a funding source be found for dog dispensers on
the numb.° streets on i "Iboa Peninsula, and; exclude the harbor /bay front beaches from
any time cha , .� o the ex I ng ordinance.
Commissioner Ga eked staff to look in to the fine issue as discussed.
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Director DetweilW'stated that staff would discuss this with Revenue to provide further
clarification.
Motion carried by acclamation.
COMMITTEE REPORTS —
Parks — Commissioner Brown stated that the Committee had met with staff tonight and had been advised of
current and completed projects and provide a quick overview of that presentation.
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RSS - Nothing to report.
Budget- Nothing to report
Community SeryiceAward -Nothing to report.
AD- Hoc
—Youth Sports Liaison - Superintendent Levin stated that there is a meeting scheduled for October to
discuss the gray area that exists between select and all -star teams.
— Marina Park - Nothing to report.
FU'T'URE AGENDA ITEMS
• Artificial Turf status - Commissioner Anderson stated that the fundishould be brought to the
youth sports teams to discuss what resources could be found to heh6AfuR d artificial turf at Bonita
Creek. Commissioner Brown stated that this would be a good 6#" i`to bring to the City Council's
attention on how the Commission feels that this is a priority Coii#mi oner Anderson stated that he
knows that there are funds out there that could be use ctot `veiler suggested that it be
brought to the next meeting of the Youth Sports Groups to s re the sfi and discuss support and
then it could be brought forward to the Commission t 4fi}t4e meeting :._,. Chair Lugar agreed
with Commissioner Brown that an ad hoc committeeGwould``be appropriat ok at the artificial
turf issues and would volunteer withCommissibners Anderson and B and looked to
Superintendent Levin to set up a meeting after so-A" data has be
• Commissioner Anderson discussed the Banning R�akland thal
for a school but apparently it is not buildable. Direct i tTT o
fields continue that it be keep in mind that there is mat nee
part of the budget reductions the Landscape & Parks Main c
on to say that everyone is for more fiel Shut it is not just the j
significant costs associated with these acEli�s�nd that investiii
fields we have. V _.._
Trash Pick -Up on Saturdays - Discussion
beach.
G -1 Review „f
Pirates Cove Tagh D1tr Harmon st
would be neede ut a light , :ere and that
a report for the ` Sion alt( would try for
Vice Chair Lu ar stated
the election= .: MM u
Submitted
assembled.
he NMUSD has was set aside
'hsked that as discussions about
costs associated with them and as
e Divisions took a big hit. He went
at costs there is always an ongoing
r"its hould be made in the current
on Saturday and on the
that he has talked to Public Works about what
far as it goes. He noted that staff would work on
ion meeting was scheduled for the same night as
dark on November 2d. The Commission agreed.